Obama Pentagon appointees meet with anti-Christian extremist [Reader Post]

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Obama administration Pentagon appointees meeting with anti-Christian extremist Mikey Weinstein to develop court-martial procedures to punish Christians in the military who express or share their faith.

Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians–including chaplains–sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the Constitution.”

Pentagon May Court Martial Soldiers Who Share Christian Faith

President Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon confirm that the military will make it a crime–possibly resulting in imprisonment–for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis — whose duty since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel, instruction, or comfort.)

This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion.

It’s a matter of what do they mean by “proselytizing.” …I think they’ve got their definitions a little confused. If you’re talking about coercion that’s one thing, but if you’re talking about the free exercise of our faith as individual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, especially for the chaplains, they I think the worst thing we can do is stop the ability for a soldier to be able to exercise his faith.” – retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, who is now executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC)

House Majority Whip: Pentagon Must ‘Clarify’ Position on Prosecuting Christians

Breitbart News reports that the Pentagon says it could prosecute military members who promote their religion: “Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense…Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis…”

House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA):

‘The Department of Defense needed to clarify its policy’, and called it a “wrong” targeting “the fundamental principles of democracy.”

“Our forefathers fought for a vision of a nation where the right to practice the faith of ones choosing was undeniable. Past attacks and threats to our country have targeted the fundamental principles of democracy, such as religious freedom. Recent reports of our own military relinquishing and punishing this right, especially to the very individuals giving the ultimate sacrifice serving our country, is wrong. I strongly encourage the Department of Defense to clarify their statement and policy on religious practice in the military.”

Video: Fox “The Five’s” take on this: Pentagon Going After Christian Faith?

“This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion.”

FRC has launched a petition calling on Secretary Hagel is stop working with Weinstein and his anti-Christian organization to develop military policy regarding religious faith.

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Oh c’mon, this is such bullshit.

There has been a powerpoint presentation that all reserve soldiers must review that condemn Christianity. It is easy to google for those unbelievers

So, when does it dawn on the American public just what this anti-American bastard is up to? He jokes about being a Muslim socialist, but his acts are exactly that. He need to be impeached, or removed by any means possible to save the country. I think there will be a civil war if Obama gets to finish his term.

Weinstein wouldn’t be a jew…….would he.?……..just sayin…….

Some time back I read something else by this guy, Mikey Weinstein.
Seems he thinks the military is just one big evangalistic Christian club where everyone else is sidelined, marginalized and even put down.
He even wrote about why Maj. Nidal Hasan was justified in murdering a bunch of these Christian soldiers.
So, that’s where he’s coming from.

Personal experience tells me different.
I have three brothers who each served in the Navy.
As Jews they were given special meals, extra days off and basically respected for their religion.
Not one of them ever had pressure to convert to Christianity.
One of them served 20 years.

@Nan G:

Weinstein is a hater, who declares everyone else, except himself, a hater. But the fact that he is even involved with our military should tell you a lot about this Administration.

Just the other day, on this very blog, I said that the last people is it politically correct to hate is a white, Southern Christian male. Add to that Christian military.

@This one:

The Pentagon confirmed on May 1, and the Air Force on May 2 separately confirmed a second time.

@Disenchanted:

A U.S. Army Equal Opportunity Instructor giving a presentation on “extremism” during an Army Reserve training brief in Philadelphia categorized Evangelical Christianity and Roman Catholicism as on par with Hamas, al-Qaeda, and the Nation of Islam.

The instructor also compared Christianity and Roman Catholicism with Sunni Muslims and the Ku Klux Klan.

In fact, among the bullet points contained in the brief’s PowerPoint presentation, the first example of extremism listed was Evangelical Christianity. That was the top of the list. The Muslim Brotherhood, “Ultra-Orthodox” Jews, and “Christian Identity” followed it.

Christian Identity appears to cover Christians who don’t fall under the category of Evangelical — so it’s your everyday, run-of-the-mill, Golden Rule kind of believers.

Then come al-Qaeda, Hamas, and the Ku Klux Klan, among others. Roman Catholics are listed 10th on the list.

Seven more examples of “extremism” — including two more branches of Christianity — follow Roman Catholicism.

@David Briker:

His name would tend to suggest Weinstein may have Jewish ancestors, but I would firmly reject any suggestion of a Jewish connection/conspiracy to his agenda. An examination of Mikey’s past temper flared outbursts clearly indicates that he is in fact a crusading Christian-hater.

Frankly, I don’t care if he is an Atheist, Jew or worships the spaghetti monster. His bigotry has no place in advising our military. The Democratic party has a long history of bigotry, and for many decades Christianity has been a particular target of far-left extremist’s attacks. I have friends and associates of many religious and ethnic backgrounds. I respect them of their heritage and have no problem with them talking about their beliefs. The 1st Amendment also protects religious speech. There is no compulsion that by merely listening compels me to convert but it instead helps me to better understand them. If you don’t like it you are free to ignore or walk away, but you should not force them to shut-up because you don’t agree with what they have to say.

We should never forget that religious freedom is often the first targeted by oppressive governments, and this is most easily proven with historical examination of socialist tyrants.

@retire05:

According to writer Jeremy Pierce on the First Things blog, Weinstein is a “Dominionismist”

Dominionismists
Sunday, August 14, 2011, 9:13 PM
Jeremy Pierce

I’ve determined that there’s a political faction out there that needs a name, because it’s a group of conspiracy theorists with a particular agenda that’s becoming somewhat influential, and it’s achieving its agenda fairly well. Its agenda is to discredit mainstream evangelicalism by confusing it with extremist figures who have nearly zero influence on much of any importance. I’m going to call this group the Dominionismists, because their whole agenda depends on this fictional line of thought called Dominionism [sic].

Dominionismism begins, as far as I can tell, with a sociology Ph.D. dissertation at the University of California at Berkeley, by a woman named Sara Diamond. Diamond’s dissertation sought to expose a group of Christians she was calling Dominionists [sic], who held the view “that Christians alone are Biblically mandated to occupy all secular institutions until Christ returns”. Dominionismists like to lump together such diverse figures as Abraham Kuyper, Francis Schaeffer, R.J. Rushdoony, James Dobson, Gary North, Greg Bahnsen, D. James Kennedy, Jerry Falwell, Tim LaHaye, Randall Terry, Pat Robertson, Charles Colson, and Nancy Pearcey as influential figures in the development of Dominionism [sic].

It is an interesting read.

Hot Air has a calm and collected article on this issue. The problem here is that the Pentagon, while now saying that it will not persecute Christians, is leaving it up to commanders to determine the definition of s “extreme proselytizing.” That is a vague and arbitrary decision that should not stand. Clear guidelines are required, not opinion.

The progressive left’s continued hostile bigotry towards Christians is as harsh, rabid and long lived as it’s ancestrial bigotry towards blacks.

@Zelsdorf Ragshaft III: Just this week unemployment is at its lowest in 4 years and the stock market set a record. If Obama is a ‘socialist,’ he’s a pretty bad one. It’s the GOP who hate America by trying to destroy the middle class with a record number of filibusters on jobs bills.

@Ditto: The problem here is that the Pentagon, while now saying that it will not persecute Christians, is leaving it up to commanders to determine the definition of s “extreme proselytizing.” That is a vague and arbitrary decision that should not stand. Clear guidelines are required, not opinion.

Governing by Obama equals governing by trail balloon.
They put it up the flag pole and saw the response.
They backed off….part way.
They now await the reaction to that.
It is Hagel’s/Lenin’s Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis made new.

Disenchanted#2 and Z.R #3 Think you are both nuts lol
David Bricker #4 We KNOW what you are.

@Richard Wheeler: Hey — do you have anything to say?

How patriotic would you rank these quotes?

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.
-Thomas Jefferson

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

-Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which, if acted on, would save one-half the wars of the world.
-Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
-Thomas Jefferson

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.

-Thomas Jefferson

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
-Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
-Thomas Jefferson

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
-Thomas Jefferson

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
-Thomas Jefferson

A new $1 million dollar program led by Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw aimed at “violence prevention” is encouraging Floridians to report their neighbors for making hateful comments about the government.
This program could have easily led to calls had a neighbor quoted ANY of these thoughts from Thomas Jefferson.
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/bradshaw-gets-1-million-for-violence-prevention-un/nXbs4/

“We cannot read the history of our rise and development as a nation, without reckoning with the place the Bible has occupied in shaping the advances of the Republic. Its teaching, as has been wisely suggested, is ploughed into the very heart of the race. Where we have been truest and most consistent in obeying its precepts we have attained the greatest measure of contentment and prosperity; where it has beebn to us as the words of a book that is sealed, we have failed in our way, lost our range finders and found our progress checked.”

And this:

“I take pleasure in commending the reading of the Bible to all who serve in the armed forces of the United States.”

How far the Democrat Party has fallen. Or did the Democrat Party just disappear to be replaced with Socialists? I believe the latter.

@retire05:

Weinstein is a hater, who declares everyone else, except himself, a hater. But the fact that he is even involved with our military should tell you a lot about this Administration.

And our military. Don’t forget to include them in this fiasco. They carry the traitor’s water 24/7 and do so with the biggest fecal-consuming grin I’ve ever seen.

None of these “Generals” have the balls to take him on and tell the truth how he’s demoralized the troops-not one of them.

Thus, it is safe to assume these cowards would fire on American citizens in a heart-beat.

@Rasputin lives:

None of these “Generals” have the balls to take him on and tell the truth how he’s demoralized the troops-not one of them.

That’s not it. Many of these Generals and much of the Pentagon leadership were hand picked by the Obama administration to do things his way. Some are leftovers from the Clinton administration who cleaned the Federal bureaucracies of both Republican and non-partisan office-holders. When Bush took office, he stupidly left most of the Clinton era appointments in place.

@Ditto:
Plus Obama cleaned out at least one Admiral and four Generals just since the night of the Benghazi attack, 9-11-12.

Air Force Officer Told to Remove Bible from Desk

An Air Force spokesperson said personnel are not allowed to proselytize but are free to express their personal religious beliefs so long as it “does not make others uncomfortable,” but a critic pointed out at an Air Force officer was told to remove a Bible that was on his desk.

“When on duty or in an official capacity, Air Force members are free to express their personal religious beliefs as long as it does not make others uncomfortable,” Lt. Col. Laurel Tingley said in a statement to Fox News. “Proselytizing (inducing someone to convert to one’s faith) goes over that line.”

Tingley said Air Force leaders “must avoid the actual or apparent use of their position to promote their personal religious beliefs to their subordinates or to extend preferential treatment for any religion.”

That statement has caused alarm among a number of religious liberty groups – including the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty.

“What does ‘As long as it does not make others uncomfortable’ mean?” executive director Ron Crews asked Fox News.

He said last year an Air Force officer was told he could no longer keep a Bible on his desk because it “may” appear that he was condoning a particular religion.

So now simply having a book on your desk is proselytizing? Does this prohibition include books of all ideologies that these leftist Obama political appointees fear, or only those containing religious content? Will they next demand burning of these books to protect our warriors? Do any on the left even see the blatant hypocrisy compared with their continual defense of their own ideological tomes, by attacking Christian and conservatives they refer to as “book burners” (even when there is no evidence that any books were burned by their targets)?

But earlier today, the Pentagon released a new statement noting “service members can share their faith (evangelize), but must not force unwanted, intrusive attempts to convert others of any faith or no faith to one’s beliefs (proselytization).”

While groups that advocate for religious liberty are pleased with the Dept. of Defense clarification – they are troubled by the Air Force position on religion.

Daniel Blomberg, with The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, told Fox News he was glad to see the Dept. of Defense issue a clarification, but expressed alarm at the Air Force statement.

“The Air Force spokesman’s statement sounds like the government can ban servicemen and women from talking to one another about their faith,” he said. “And that couldn’t be more wrong. The Air Force must follow the Department of Defense’s example to immediately correct its statement to avoid chilling Airmen and women’s religious liberty.”

Blomberg said the Air Force policy is “unconstitutional and wrong.”

“Our brave fighting men and women should not be reduced to whispering fearfully about their faith by their own government,” he said.

U.S. Coast Guard Rear Adm. William D. Lee vows to continue sharing faith.

Lee, who described himself as “a man of deep abiding faith who happens to wear a uniform,” went on to defy any efforts to stop military personnel from openly sharing their Christian faith—a topic sparking widespread controversy in the media this week.

He recounted a recent meeting with a 24-year-old soldier who had attempted suicide but survived his self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Lee said when he heard the man’s story, he knew the rules said he should send the man to a chaplain, but his heart said to give him a Bible.

“The lawyers tell me that if I do that, I’m crossing the line,” Lee said. “I’m so glad I’ve crossed that line so many times.”

Lee pledged not to back down from “my right under the Constitution to tell a young man that there is hope.”

http://www.worldmag.com/2013/05/rear_admiral_vows_to_continue_sharing_faith

Keep an eye out for this man’s name under such headings as, “Retires early, terminated Admiral Lee.”

Government-Approved Illegals !

Speaking of illegals, the government hasn’t built the border fence high enough to keep out the un-American criminals who want to take away our freedoms.
Yes, the government hasn’t built the White House fence high enough to keep out the un-American criminals who somehow got into the White House and who are now working hard to take away the religious, social, and economic freedoms of true American patriots!
Here are two slogans that Obama would rather not think about: “Unborn babies should have the right to keep and bear arms – and legs and ears and eyes, etc.!” and “Unborn babies should have the same right to be born alive that abortionists had!”
If Obama should ever happen to Google “Dangerous Radicals of the Religious Right,” do you think he would feel guilty merely walking in the hallowed halls of that House where true Americans walked?
Is it safe to assume that Mecca Wafers are Obama’s favorite candy? And is barack-coli a vegetable or a disease?

this is a growing beast who must be cut of now,
and WEINSTEIN put in prison for harrassing the CHRISTIAN MILITARY,
and now,
don’t take that lying down, it will escalate if not taken care of,
weinstein how dare you worm,

ARREST them all, arrest the WHITE HOUSE
they must be stop

THE PENTAGONE
are you sold like the rest? are you going to take that shit on your knees?
where is the gut, you let down the 4 braves of BENGHASI,
now are you letting down the MILITARY at war being shot in the back,
hello? anybody there? you must protect the MILITARY at WAR,
if it’s the last thing you do, and do it now,
get that WEINSTEIN out and ban him from THE PENTAGONE,
he is a traitor, take your responsibility and use your power,
clean up the mess. in the WHITE HOUSE,
there is no more time for good manners and yes man,

/ Greets, FA. Enjoying your outstanding blog. Here is a thing I uncovered while on the net. /

THE BACKGROUND OBAMA CAN’T COVER UP

(Each human is part of this “River.” Are you an “oxbow lake”?)

Islam, part of the Living River of History, affected even the 2012 US election!
The “headwaters” of this River was Adam, according to Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.
In the OT (Deut. 28), “tributaries” wanting to join the River are blessed while “distributaries” wanting to flow away from it are cursed. Those wishing to totally separate from the fresh Living River become polluted, dying “oxbow lakes.”
In the OT we see Israelites repeatedly flowing away from God, then repenting and returning to Him; we also see heathen “oxbow lakes” creating their own little “gods” and being allowed by God to plunder and kill the erring Israelites.
Then, at the right time, the Living River took on new life with the arrival of the Promised One who offers “living water.”
In the 7th century Islam, drawing from both OT and NT, chose to be a distributary away from this River. Many scholars have viewed it as the final Antichrist: note “scourge” (Isa. 28), “Assyrian” (Mic. 5), “Euphrates” (Rev. 9) etc.
God will allow this “scourge” to temporarily persecute and kill apostate Jews (JINOs) and Christians (CINOs). Jews, especially in “entertainment,” seem more expert in apostasy than Christians since Jews have been at it 2000 years longer than Christians have (Google “jewishfaces.com/porn.html”) – but Christians apparently want to catch up to the Jews!
It’s apparent that others will join Islam in its end-time inquisition; its great oil wealth can captivate many leaders and already we’re seeing apostate American leaders being bribed into turning against true American patriots.
Those who ignore (or try to dilute or destroy) the God-ordained Living River of History will be swept down it to an ocean made by their own never-ending tears of agony and despair.
The good news is that American JINOs & CINOs can overcome the “scourge” discussed above. The secret is found by checking out “II Chronicles 7:14” & “John 3:16” on the web.
There’s still time – and freedom – to Google or MSN “Obama Promotes Public Sex,” “Obama a Black-Slavery Avenger?,” “Dangerous Radicals of the Religious Right,” “Pretrib Rapture Politics,” “Mikey Weinstein, Jesus-Basher,” “Christ’s return is NOT imminent,” “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” “Pretrib Rapture Pride,” and (for dessert) “Pretrib Rapture Stealth.”
In light of Matthew 7:2, if we tolerate Christian leaders who lie to us and steal from us, we shouldn’t be surprised if God allows us to have political leaders who lie to us and steal from us!

A Kansas Patriot (who won FIRST PLACE over 2200 entrants in a nationwide Americanism essay contest)