13 Feb

Desiline Victor- sorry to burst the happy bubble but…

                                       

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Desiline Victor was one of the props used by Barack Obama in his State of the Union Address. She has been widely celebrated in the press largely because she waited three hours to vote for Obama.

Daily Mail

A 102-year-old woman has been chosen to sit next to Michelle Obama at the annual State of the Union address in Washington.

Desaline Victor, a naturalized U.S citizen from Miami, Florida, waited for more than three hours to cast her ballot for the President on November 6.

Ms Victor will sit in the First Lady’s box with military families, people who are championing immigration reform and victims of gun violence.

Haitian born Ms Victor, who is known as ‘Granny’ in her local community, expressed her surprise at the opportunity.

She said: ‘I know I’m going to sit with the president’s wife. I did not think I would get here. I am proud.’

White House Officials say that Ms Victor represents the minorities and immigrants who stand to benefit from the policies President Obama will discuss in his speech.

About what she said- we’ll be revisiting that.

“White House Officials say that Ms Victor represents the minorities and immigrants who stand to benefit from the policies President Obama will discuss in his speech”

They got that part right.

HuffPo:

WASHINGTON — A determined Florida centenarian who had to make two trips and wait several hours to vote for President Barack Obama last fall joined first lady Michelle Obama for Tuesday’s State of the Union. Her resolve to cast a ballot became a symbol of early voting obstacles in the presidential election.

Desiline Victor, 102, of Miami, endured a weather-delayed flight to Washington on Monday in order to get to town for Obama’s address. She was among the guests seated in the House visitors’ gallery, an opportunity she called “a beautiful thing.”

During his address, Obama cited Victor as an example worth following, saying she was concerned about “whether folks like her would get to have their say.”

Tampa Bay Times:

When she set out to cast her vote last year in North Miami, Desiline Victor had no way of knowing the journey would lead all the way to the White House. Tuesday night, Victor, a 102-year-old Haitian immigrant, sat in the House chamber as a guest of first lady Michelle Obama. Victor voted for the president, but it was not easy. On her first visit to the polls Oct. 28, the first day of early voting, she waited in line for three hours. Poll workers eventually advised her to come back later. She finally cast her vote that evening.

In his speech, President Barack Obama said we should follow Victor’s example.

“When she arrived at her polling place, she was told the wait to vote might be six hours,” Obama said, “And as time ticked by, her concern was not with her tired body or aching feet, but whether folks like her would get to have their say.”

And there’s lots more. The first question that popped into my mind was “What kind of people would make a centenarian wait three hours to vote?” Why wasn’t she immediately granted access to the front of the line?

I guess that what they do in North Miami.

But then I began wondering more about her. Specifically, why is she even here and how is she a US citizen?

Victor was born in 1910 and she is 102 years old. It’s admirable that she is “determined.” The problem is that she came to this country in 1989 at the age of 79. She doesn’t speak English.

“I’m very happy, very proud,” she said, communicating through a translator because she speaks only Haitian Creole. The translator is her godson, Mathieu Pierre Louis, whom she raised as her son. She moved to the United States in 1989 and became a naturalized citizen in 2005.

One of the requirements for citizenship is the ability to speak English:

General Eligibility Requirements

To be eligible for naturalization pursuant to section 319(a) of the INA, an applicant must:

Be 18 or older
Be a permanent resident (green card holder) for at least 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400, Application for Naturalization
Have been living in marital union with the U.S. citizen spouse, who has been a U.S. citizen during all of such period, during the 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application and up until examination on the application
Have lived within the state, or USCIS district with jurisdiction over the applicant’s place of residence, for at least 3 months prior to the date of filing the application
Have continuous residence in the United States as a lawful permanent resident for at least 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application
Reside continuously within the United States from the date of application for naturalization until the time of naturalization
Be physically present in the United States for at least 18 months out of the 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application
Be able to read, write, and speak English and have knowledge and an understanding of U.S. history and government (also known as civics)
Be a person of good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States during all relevant periods under the law

“Be able to read, write, and speak English” Hmm. How did she gain citizenship?

And let’s examine why the President says we need immigration reform:

“Real reform means fixing the legal immigration system to cut waiting periods, reduce bureaucracy, and attract the highly-skilled entrepreneurs and engineers that will help create jobs and grow our economy.”

“attract the highly-skilled entrepreneurs and engineers”

Like Desiline Victor, right? How much has she contributed to the system? How much has she paid in income and social security taxes?

We’re going to strengthen the economy by importing 80 year olds with no skills and who cannot speak English and who are wholly dependent on the government for support?

Seriously?

Or are we merely importing elderly dependent future democrat voters who are willing to wait three hours to vote for their “son”?

About DrJohn

DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.
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217 Responses to Desiline Victor- sorry to burst the happy bubble but…

  1. drjohn says: 201

    @Aye:

    Why? Because it’s fun. Consider yourself my very own Petri dish smear, subject to constant probing and testing and examination. Sometimes the results will be pleasant. Sometimes not.

    Either way, the examinations will continue as long as you choose to remain in the dish.

    There is something wrong with you.

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  2. Aye says: 202

    @drjohn:

    My answer now, as it was then, is that I won’t change my position on standards, principles, consistency, and honesty. I can bend steel with my bare hands, I am able to leap tall buildings with a single bound and taught Mother Teresa all she knew.

    That says it all.

    Now you’re creating false quotes and presenting them as things I’ve written?

    Interesting.

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  3. Richard Wheeler
    the fact is that GADAGI WAS COLLABORATING WITH AMERICA,
    HE DID HELP IN TERRORIST ACTIVITY, IN OTHER WORD HE WAS AN ASSET
    FOR AMERICA LIKE MUBARACK,
    OBAMA BROKE THAT, BY TELLING THEM TO LEAVE AND
    GIVE THE COUNTRIES TO TERRORISTS,
    HE SCREW THEM BOTH AND SCREW AMERICA

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  4. drjohn says: 204

    @Aye:

    Now you’re creating false quotes and presenting them as things I’ve written?

    Interesting.

    I read your mind. Think of it as part of my probing and testing of you.

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  5. Aye says: 205

    @drjohn:

    Think of it as part of my probing and testing of you.

    Actually, I will think of it as it is: a sign the author has become completely detached and is desperately struggling.

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  6. Richard Wheeler says: 206

    DrJ In#161 you said “Why you would support Al Queda Rich I do not understand?

    Understand this Herr Dr. I never have and never will support Al Queda. Are we clear?

    If the treacherous leaders of Iran and or Syria can be removed without the loss of American life, I’m all in.

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  7. Aqua says: 207

    @retire05:

    Again, what laws to you propose that I, as a natural born American citizen, be allowed to violate on a regular basis and then be rewarded for those violations?

    What laws do you want to violate? I’m sure you are above reproach and have never broken the speed limit and been rewarded with arriving to your destination earlier than you would have by driving the speed limit. I’m sure you’ve never put software on your computer that you didn’t pay for. I think there is a study out there that say 99% of the population has done that. Does it make violating the law right? No.
    You and I have two totally different outlooks on immigration. I’m not saying you’re wrong, just that we don’t agree. You have already said that had you been born in an oppressed country you would fight.

    No, I don’t think I would, Aqua. Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. Life, without freedom, is not life worth living.

    If I saw another way, I wouldn’t put my family through something like that. I guess it makes me more sympathetic to those that make the same choice. As it stands right now, I’m seriously considering retiring somewhere other than the US.
    But there are things I would like to see changed and those changes are going to come at a price. Your way isn’t going to work. You can preach it from now till eternity. It’s the same song that has been playing for 20 years. If I could see border security guaranteed, the anchor-baby loophole, and an aggressive worker visa program, I would go along with legalizing the 11+ million that are already here. They aren’t going anywhere under your plan because you plan stands no chance of being enforced under a democrat or republican administration.
    The perfect is the enemy of the good.

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  8. retire05 says: 208

    @Aqua:

    and have never broken the speed limit and

    No, Aqua, I have never been ticketed for exceeding the speed limit and, to my knowledge, have never exceeded the posted speed limits. You see, I fully understand that speed limits are not designed to generate revenue for some particular law enforcement agency, but to try to give some small measure of safety on the highways I drive. Speeders, IMHO, put not only themselves in harm’s way, but everyone else traveling the roadway they are on.

    I’m sure you’ve never put software on your computer that you didn’t pay for

    And your assumption would be correct. No, I have never pirated any download. As a matter of fact, I download little as I am not a tech junkie. Don’t own an iPod, iPad, Kindle or Book Nook. I only have a smart phone because it was a gift. And it is pretty useless to be as I only use it for calling out and receiving calls.

    I think there is a study out there that say 99% of the population has done that.

    So you just assume that since 99% seem to be theives, I must be, as well?

    If I saw another way, I wouldn’t put my family through something like that.

    And what would you be teaching your children? That there is nothing, including the most precious gift given us by Nature’s God, freedom, is not worth fighting for?

    I’m seriously considering retiring somewhere other than the US.

    I have friends that are looking at New Zealand.

    Your way isn’t going to work.

    Actually, my way did work. It was called Operation Wetback and it was estimated that 1,000,000+ self deported.

    I once had a very expensive smoker (we Texans do love smoked meat, ya know). I took it to the alley behind my house to clean it out and to scub it down. After I was finished, I left it sitting next to my garage door, on my property, not in the alley, to dry before dragging it back into the yard. My mistake. It was stolen within 15 minutes. I saw the truck it was loaded into, called the PD and reported the theft. The police knew the vehicle immediately. The smoker was retrieved and when the PD asked the guy why he took it, he said “I thought they didn’t want it anymore ’cause it was sitting by the alley.”

    You see, Aqua, I facilitated a lure with leaving the smoker unattended, even though it was on my property. And someone took the lure. If we create any new laws, it should be that no illegal is eligible for any form of social welfare, neither state or federal. If we elimitate the very reasons they come here, which does include social welfare, they will cease to come in the numbers we are seeing now.

    We have become a nation where those who violate the rules are rewarded and those who live by the rules are punished. That policy must change, otherwise, just fling open the gates and let anyone come in who wants to, no restrictions, no rules. And then we can finally kiss the “greatest nation on earth” goodby as we will have given it away.

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  9. Aqua says: 209

    @retire05:
    I have to say you are quite the example of virtue, and I sincerely mean that. I try to live my life with honor, but I’ll be the first to admit I drive with a heavy foot. I do not nor have I ever pirated software and was not insinuating you did. But it is quite common and there are a surprising number of people that believe it is just fine.
    I was born and raised in Memphis, I have a couple of smokers, I would be heartbroken if one was stolen.

    You see, Aqua, I facilitated a lure with leaving the smoker unattended, even though it was on my property. And someone took the lure. If we create any new laws, it should be that no illegal is eligible for any form of social welfare, neither state or federal. If we elimitate the very reasons they come here, which does include social welfare, they will cease to come in the numbers we are seeing now.

    See, I agree with making sure no illegals are eligible for any social program. But we would still be a lure. Maybe for different and better reasons, but America will always be a lure as long as we are free. No one said it better than Reagan when he called America the shining city on a hill. We are a beacon of freedom.

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  10. retire05 says: 210

    @Aqua:

    I have to say you are quite the example of virtue, and I sincerely mean that.

    I still choose to believe that there are more like me than those who are not.

    But we would still be a lure. Maybe for different and better reasons, but America will always be a lure as long as we are free.

    Of course, but for all the right reasons.

    I have friends who are legal immigrants; from Canada, Irela, Mexico and and Kenya. The restrictions placed on them when they entered this nation were, I think, way out of line. My friends from Kenya, waited five years to get here, he with a degree in History (he was a professor at a Kenyan university) and she is a nurse. Once they got here, they had to live one year with a sponsor family and although strong Christians, could not put their children in a Christian school as they were told that their children had to attend public schools, at least for one year. Their children were wanting to return to Kenya because the other black kids were cruel to them, saying they were not “black” enough and said they acted “white” all because their parents made sure they studied and would not let them wear baggy pants and made sure their clothes were clean, pressed and proper for school. My friend, his name is Elijah, said that he never experienced racism until he came here, but not from white people who threw parties to introduce him, and his family, to the rest of our Christian community, but from black Americans who called him “uppity.” Although Elijah’s English is proper, he has trouble sometimes with slang words. He wanted to know what “uppity” meant.

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  11. Aqua says: 211

    @retire05:

    Of course, but for all the right reasons.

    And the thing for me is, I cannot convince myself that the majority of people that come here illegally are here for the wrong reasons. My wife used to work for DFACS and I know for a fact that Georgia does not give out any welfare benefits to illegals. Yes, they give benefits to babies born in the US to illegals, which is why that is something I would like to see fixed in an immigration bill.

    I still choose to believe that there are more like me than those who are not.

    Even honest people break the law now and again. I find speed limits to be a sign of control. Guess I’ll always be a good ole southern rebel.

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  12. retire05 says: 212

    @Aqua:

    And the thing for me is, I cannot convince myself that the majority of people that come here illegally are here for the wrong reasons.

    Perhaps that is because you have not been exposed to the dark side of illegal immigration? I would warrent that most of your involvement with anyone illegal is with those who are trying to find jobs, not run drugs.

    Yes, they give benefits to babies born in the US to illegals, which is why that is something I would like to see fixed in an immigration bill.

    A study was done on births given by illegal alien women at Park Lane Hospital in Dallas, the same hospital where JFK was taken when he was shot and one of the largest hospitals in Dallas. The stats were alarming. There was a higher percentage of illegals giving birth than resident legals. Many of these women came here for no other reason that to have their babies because the Mexican government has made it well known that if they have their babies here, they can get on the taxpayer largess gravy train due to that baby.

    Other studies have been done in the last few years on the sexual crimes committed by illegals, especially those from nations south of us. Those stats, as well, were alarming. The study was done by a criminalogist, not some hack.

    We are being told our borders are safer than ever. Not true. Our borders are swiss cheese. But it is not the Mexicans that everyone should be worried about, it is the OTMs that we should be worried about. We already know that Islamists have hooked up with the Mexican drug cartels to sneak them across our southern border.

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  13. Nick Richards says: 213

    A person over 55 who has been a legal permanent resident of the US for 15 years is exempt from the English language part of the naturalization test. Desiline was born in 1910, entered the US in 1989, became a naturalized citizen in 2005. You do the math. But hey, why bother to know the facts when posting bullshit is so much easier, right? Oddly, you made an effort to find the requirements for naturalization that you posted, but not enough of an effort to know (or I should say post) the applicable exemptions for someone like Desiline. Which is why I must ask: is your disinformation intentional, or just the result of laziness?

    And oh yes: She’s “wholly dependent on the government for support”? You know this how? Should everything you post be understood to contain the implied qualification that you’re making it up as you go, but you hope everyone will believe it’s true?

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  14. Richard Wheeler says: 214

    Nick Thanks for clarifying this story.

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  15. retire05 says: 215

    @Nick Richards:

    And oh yes: She’s “wholly dependent on the government for support”? You know this how?

    And you know “how” that an 89 year old who migrated to the U.S. was never dependent on any form of social welfare? If you have information that she never took advantage of any social welfare, either federal or state, please provide that information so we can sing her praises.

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  16. Aye says: 216

    @retire05:

    And you know “how” that an 89 year old who migrated to the U.S. was never dependent on any form of social welfare? If you have information that she never took advantage of any social welfare, either federal or state, please provide that information so we can sing her praises.

    It’s not the responsibility of the reader to disprove an author’s premise.

    The person who posits ad argument bears the onus to support it with a factual foundation.

    Any failure to establish such a factual basis, especially when challenged, is an ipso facto demonstration that the argument should rightfully be considered false.

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