13 Jan

Is Walmart Complicit in Gun Control?

                                       

BLUF: This hasn’t been confirmed yet. I’ve send a note to corporate asking for a response – as have many others – and have yet to get a response.

WALMART

According to the Daily Sheeple, Walmart Corporate Headquarters has instructed its local store managers NOT to restock their depleted ammunition shelves.

I’m not sure if this is something the company is doing in response to a White House directive or in response to liberal reports trying to link the chain to the Sandy Hook shooting because it happens to sell the same type of rifle used to kill 26 people there, including 20 children. The same Bushmaster rifle was also used in the Aurora, Colorado, theater shooting.

It is interesting that WalMart has been sold out of ammunition since December 26th locally.

Personally, I will not spend another dime at Walmart or Sam’s until they respond to my question. Then, it will greatly depend on the answer to my question whether or not I will shop there again. I estimated that we spend between $700-1000 monthly on groceries and other items at our local store.

I don’t call for many boycotts, but I am now. Walmart is a major company that has successfully pushed many smaller companies out of business with their lower prices. While they do employ millions of people, they also prevent the employment of millions more by buying a vast majority of their products from China.

Normally, that wouldn’t bother me. However, the fact that they are now going after the most American thing we have – our right to self defense as recognized in the 2nd Amendment. Ammunition was one of the few American-made products left that they sell. I ask you to join me in withholding your money from the chain until they favorably respond to these questions about refusing to restock their ammunition and rifle supplies.

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29 Responses to Is Walmart Complicit in Gun Control?

  1. NotinsomeGodforesakenplace says: 1

    I find myself wondering who is fairly recently positioned to gain financially in a notable way from short sells on consumer weaponry related businesses and who is positioned to gain financially notably from the surge in sales. Surely this has been posed in many places already. I just have not seen it.

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  2. Kalashnikat says: 2

    Lets get the facts before jumping to conclusions, or concussions…I suspect this is a rumor and we don’t need to jump all over our friends until and unless we know we have been betrayed…WE DON’T KNOW anything yet.

    The local walmarts around have both ammo and guns on its shelves…and for ammo, they got in a sizeable batch of 9mm before this weekend… and it was completely gone in 24 hours…the rifles in the cases are all bolties but the wholesalers are saying that the warehouses of all types are empty, not just Wally world’s suppliers…

    I bought a Sig Enhanced Carbine before Christmas in our walmart that had been manufactured less than two weeks earlier, and had been shipped overnight direct from Sig to my local store, no middleman, no warehouse…that tells me there wasn’t much on the shelves at that point.

    There’s been an unprecedented run in which six months worth of inventory of firearms and ammo has disappeared from the marketplace and wholesalers since the November election…you can’t rebuild that much stock overnight…

    Don’t panic, don’t start firing on your friends and allies…get the facts and let’s be sure who’s doing what before you start boycotting anyone.

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  3. CJ says: 3

    @Kalashnikat: @Kalashnikat: I simply don’t have enough trust right now in the company. I will continue my boycott until Walmart either confirms or denies the rumors, which is all this is right now. However, they are also participants in Biden’s gun grabbers convention. So, it’s likely not far from truth.

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  4. Smorgasbord says: 4

    I don’t buy any Chinese stuff unless I have to. Many years ago, when my son turned 18 (he’s 42 now), I bought him $100 worth of tools. The only American made one I could find was Vise grip. I remember when Sam Walton was alive they advertised that they searched for American companies to buy from. I don’t know how hard they looked.

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  5. retire05 says: 5

    @Smorgasbord:

    I believe that some tools from Sears are still made in the U.S. You can check it out, if you wish.

    As far as Wal-Mart is concerned, I buy as little as I can from them. Only because I try to buy American made. But you have to remember this; it was the Democrats, under Bill Clinton, that opened up the Chinese markets to the U.S. Having been in the garment industry for over a decade, I saw what Clinton did to the textile/garment industry. He put them out of business. Now, the Democrats are demanding that we bring industry back to the U.S., when it was them that sent our textile/garment industries off shore. Even Wranglers are now made in Mexico, another one of Clinton’s brain farts that claimed if we only created industries in Mexico, we would see a reduction in the number of illegals crossing our borders. How’d that one work out?

    I do remember something about Winchester saying that there was a huge backlog on filling orders for ammunition and that was a couple of months ago. I am sure it is the same for all ammunition manufacturers. December was a record month for background checks to purchase a firearm. And my local gun dealer tells me that he is having a hellofa time getting ammunition.

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  6. retire05 says: 6

    In 2000, after George W. Bush was elected, the total number of NICS background checks were:

    November – 898,598
    December – 1,000,962

    In 2008, after Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was elected, the total number of NICS background checks were:

    November – 1,529,635
    December – 1,523,426

    In 2012, after Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was re-elected, the total number of NICS background checks were:

    November 2012 – 2,006,919
    December 2012 – 2,783,765

    Total number for 2000: 8,543,037

    Total number for 2008: 12,709,023

    Total number for 2012: 19,592,303

    Since Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was elected in November, 2008, 67 million firearms have been sold, with 2 million sold in November, 2012 and 2.7 million sold in December, 2012.

    Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. – Gun Salesman of The Year for Four Years in A Row.

    Ironically enough, murder by gun rates are decreasing, not increasing. And we now have more weapons in the hands of private owners than the entire Chinese army.

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  7. Smorgasbord says: 7

    @retire05: #5
    Sears is known for the “bait and switch.” They advertise something at a good price, but the sales people know not to sell it. I used to sell at a Montgomery Ward store, and learned a lot about Sears. I remember many times in the newspaper there would be a notice from Sears saying that a certain item in a certain catalog or flyer isn’t available. Montgomery Ward would replace unavailable items with the next model up.

    Sears also has regular routes the repair people run. If you live outside the city, and your freezer goes bad on Monday, and your area is on Friday, you wait until Friday.

    I buy as much American as reasonable. The items that I will only be buying once in my lifetime, or very seldom, I don’t mind paying a higher price for. Some people in some stores know that I will be asking for items not made in China. I will pay a higher price for non-Chinese products.

    I usually buy clothes from stores, but I ordered jeans over the Internet. I put “made in usa” a lot when I search for items, and there are several brands of jeans that are “Made In USA.”

    We can’t say obama didn’t create jobs. He has created thousands of jobs in the gun and ammo industry.

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  8. Smorgasbord says: 8

    @retire05: #6
    obama is increasing the NICS background checks as fast as he is increasing our borrowing, and our national debt.

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  9. Nan G says: 9

    BREAKING & CONFIRMED: Wal Mart Is NOT Going To Order Any More Ammo.
    Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-confirmed-wal-mart-is-not-going-to-order-any-more-ammo/#6g93Fl3dcuLLJqYi.99

    Stopped by my local Wal Mart this morning. They are out of almost every kind of ammo.
    I asked to talk to the person in charge of ordering to see if they had any information on this subject.
    The manager I talked to said they had not heard anything…BUT.
    She tried to order some .223 as I was standing there. She said the order was being rejected by the corporate office. Said she had never had that happen.

    She called corporate as I was standing there.
    And was told this. “As of right now Wal Mart is not going to be making any new orders of ammo because of the upcoming decision on the second amendment”. Said, “As of right now we are unsure of what new legislation might be coming, and because of this, we are suspending new orders. We will continue to sell what is already in stock in stores and at our distribution centers, but any new orders will not be shipped until the issue is resolved”.

    You can call Wal Mart headquarters at 1-800-925-6278 for yourself and ask. After the answer press 2 then 1 then 1 again and wait to talk to a rep. I just did this myself and was told the same thing.

    Personally, I don’t use Wal Mart to buy ammo but I know a bunch of folks who do….did.
    Now they are learning about better stores for it.

    Also Obama DITHERS.
    If Wal Mart is really going to wait until Obama makes his decision it might wait for four years.
    Proof of idiocy at Wal Mart.

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  10. Cliff says: 10

    The Wal-Marts around here are still getting ammunition in but the popular calibers go fast. They also still have empty shelf space where the ammo goes and if they don’t plan on restocking something they usually fill that shelf space up with something else. Some calibers and some shotgun ammunition is still available. The only reason I could see them halting ammo sales is if suppliers aren’t able to meet the demand.

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  11. Hard Right says: 11

    @Smorgasbord:

    Over a decade ago I worked for Sears. At my store bait and switch was not the way we operated. I recall my boss saying we weren’t allowed to sell the display due to state law- if it was in the ad, we had to have it on display. If we didn’t have it in stock, we could order it at the adverstised price. There were a few cases where we upgraded and charged the sale price of the item advertised since we didn’t have it in stock.

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  12. Kalashnikat says: 12

    Businessmen make business decisions, and they do so to play it safe…unfortunately Obambi and his minions have put enough uncertainty in the air (which is clearly what they intended) that businesses fear reprisal or being told they can’t sell millions worth of goods that were legal yesterday.

    Be sure to let WalMart know you won’t be back for any purchases until they restore the guns and ammo sales, then go patronize your local Mom and Pop gun stores, if you still have them, or Gander Mountain/Sportsmans Warehouse…

    But don’t be surprised if other big box retailers, as well as wholesalers and distributors have been subjected to the same combination of deliberate uncertainty and strong arm tactics…This is only going to further “stimulate” the sales of guns and ammunition from whatever pipelines are still available, but the effect is sequential…once the retailers delay ordering, the wholesalers and distributors follow suit, and the makers start shutting down assembly lines…that’s undoubtedly the intent of the deliberate hints about unspecified “executive actions”….

    Just as uncertainty about insurance costs and environmental regulations have made it impossible for small businesses to plan and therefore to hire, this deliberate creation of uncertainty about arms is intended to be sufficient to stop legitimate businesses in their tracks.

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  13. Poppa_T says: 13

    I stopped at 4 different Wal-Marts in two days because I needed some .380 auto and my local gun shop was out. Three out of four stores were out of my caliber. I was finally able to pick up 200 rounds at the Opelousas store. The selection at all 4 stores was very limited, many common calibers were not available and the price is outrageous.

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  14. CJ says: 14

    @Nan G: Nan, that is the same quote being spread everywhere. I’m still not inclined to put some weight behind it yet until it’s confirmed.

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  15. Hard Right says: 15

    I don’t buy ammo at Wal-Mart anyway. IF they do cave, I will avoid them as much as I possibly can.

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  17. Hard Right says: 16

    @Poppa_T:

    Try Ammo Engine. It can tell you who has the best price among certain sellers.

    For handgun comaprison and info:

    Genitron

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  18. Babydoc97 says: 17

    I absolutely confirm this. I just spent 15 minutes on hold with the Walmart corporate office and the person wh finally came on the line said the report IS true that Walmart is no longer ordering ammo while the government figures out ways to negate the second amendment.

    I have previously been a supporter of walmart because of their stand against unions, doing most of my grocery shopping and buying things there for use around the house. No longer. I informed the walmart person politely that I will never spend another penny at walmart again until the corporate office publicly reverses this policy and actively and publicly supports the 2nd Amendment.

    I don’t normally make a big deal of boycotts, but after finding out that Walmart gave huge political donations to Obama and now this, I say it is time to stop giving any money to Walmart or Sam’s Club.

    These is a serious attack against our Constitutional rights by the left and those corporations that sponsor the left. Every dollar you spend at Walmart is another link in the chain of your own self-enslavement.

    Boycott Walmart and Sams Club, and any other company that supports the banning of legal firearms by law-abiding citizens.

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  19. Babydoc97 says: 18

    Don’t take my word for it. Call 800-925-6278 (Walmart Corporate offices) press 2, then 1, then 1, then be prepared to wait on hold to speak to a phone representative. The gentleman to whom I spoke admitted that this report is true – Walmart corporation has made the decision to stop filling orders for ammunition while the Obamunist tries to figure out a way to remove our 2nd Amendment rights.

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  20. retire05 says: 19

    @Babydoc97:

    If you will go to OpenSecrets.org, you will find that Wal-Mart, the corporation, makes very few political donations and both of them were to Republican interests. Where the split comes is betweend Sam Walton’s heirs. Some of the kids donate to Democrats, some to Republicans. It is pretty evenly split.

    But I figure that Sam Walton, Jr. is spending his money where he will get the biggest [pardon the pun] bang for his buck and that, currently, is with Democrats who will write legislation that is favorable to Wal-Mart’s interests.

    So, just buy your ammunition from a good dealer, buy your food from a conservative owned grocer and the rest, get on the internet where you will find cheaper prices and no sales tax.

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  21. Cliff says: 20

    “That information is inaccurate,” said Ashley Hardie, a spokeswoman located at Walmart’s corporate headquarters in Bentonville, Ark.

    WND then asked whether the retail chain is cutting back on orders of ammunition.

    “No,” Hardie said. “We’re continuing to serve our customers as we have in the past.”

    She said Walmart’s ammunition sales policy has not changed, even amid talk of gun-control legislation in Washington, D.C.

    WND

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  22. Babydoc97 says: 21

    Then why would the person who answered the phone at Walmart’s corporate 800 number tell me that the report WAS true? WTF is going on? I am really bloody annoyed and wonder if the 800 number I called was some anti-walmart site? WTF?

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  23. Smorgasbord says: 22

    I mentioned to our Idaho governor and our state reps that the Constitution says the states can have militias, and that the militia can be armed. I suggested that Idaho start a militia, and ask for volunteers. One of the politicians replied back, saying, “I agree. There will be legislation this session.” If Idaho starts a militia, I am guessing that at least 90% of the population will volunteer. I suggest to others that they contact their state reps, and ask them to form a state militia. We might need them. The liberals who want to live in a gun free state can move to one.

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  24. Smorgasbord says: 23

    @Hard Right: #11
    I was referring to what people were telling me how it was when I worked at Montgomery Ward over 25 years ago. As I drove around the country, I should have counted the times on the news where a state’s attorney general was suing a Sears auto center for fraud. The attorney general’s people would check a car over, then take it to the auto center, and sometimes they would fix something that wasn’t wrong.

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  25. Poppa_T says: 24

    @Hard Right:
    Thanks HR, I try to do most of my business locally and my local gun smith makes a few bucks on ammo sales but like I said he was out. Since my drive to work is 300 plus miles long and I pass several Wal-Marts on the way down here I just figured it wouldn’t be a problem to pick up a box on the way. How wrong I was.

    P.S. another good site for ammo is “ammoseek”

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  26. this is probably what HAPPENED WITH THE BANK OF AMERICA WHO STALLED
    A MANUFACTURER OF GUNS SELLING ON THE WEB, THE BANK decide to freeze the account saying they where not too happy about him selling on the WEB
    THE BANK OF AMERICA TOOK THEIR CUE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE DEBATING ON GUNS, AND WHERE AGGRESSIVLY AND PUBLICLY WORDING THEIR INTENT, as WALLMART TOO,
    ALL THOSE BIG BUSINESS ANSWERING TOGETHER TO THREATS FROM THE OBAMA SPEECH,
    It is troubling to hear that for the people, if we think that small community would be hurting if their stores would follow orders from the WHITE HOUSE TO CLOSE TEMPORALY OR SHUT A PART OF THEIR STOCKS,
    Already it create a fear from not able to get what they need when they need it, and bring a breach in credibility of the GOVERNMENT AND THE OBEDIENT BANK OR BUSINESS, which
    is not recovered
    this again is a repeat of the fear mongering which the GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN KNOWN TO PLAY TO ENSLAVE THE PEOPLE UNDER THEIR TIGHT GRIP, BEING FOR CONTROL OF GUNS OR ANY OTHER TARGETS THEY DECIDE TO AND AT THEIR OWN TIME,
    THEY COME IN A COMMUNITY AND THROW THE FEAR PACKAGE AT THEM,
    WE HAVE NOTICE MANY TIMES NOW, AND AGAIN YOU CAN EASY READ FOR CONTROL ON ANYTHING, FARMING CONTROL COLE CONTROL BUSINESS CONTROL, PEOPLE TRAVEL CONTROL, AND NAME OTHER OF MANY,
    HELL EVEN A WATER HOLE BEING THE TARGET FROM GOVERNMENT ASKING TO REMOVE IT TO A SMALL COMMUNITY,
    THOSE ARE ABUSED DELIBERATED DONE FOR A NEFARIOUS AGENDA WHICH IS ANTI AMERICAN,
    ANTI AMERICA, ANTI CONSTITUTION

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  27. Kalashnikat says: 26

    I’m seeing several major website reports that WalMart is denying any change in Ammo or Gun purchase policy….and as I said, the wholesalers and distributors shelves are empty, things are rolling in the back door and out the front without any “residence time” on the shelves. My local still has guns and a few calibers, and they continue to come in piecemeal…one gun at a time when shipped from the maker, not a warehouse.
    The American market just bought enough guns to outfit both the Indian and Chinese armies to the last man with new weapons….it will be a while before the pipeline can refill, assuming nothing is “banned” outright.

    It would help if WalMart would issue a public statement, but that might serve more as a lightning rod than anything else right now.

    Since we can’t do much else, let’s express our concerns to WalMart and encourage them to stand tough, rather than blasting or boycotting…there’s time enough to boycott if things are proven in the future.

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  28. Kalashnikat
    hi,
    just a few days ago a woman said, they may as well take my gun ,
    because I cannot find any magasine, any bullets for it,
    it says what you where mentioning, it come from the back door and go right out in the front door,
    it tell us that business man doing his business on the web was a good source to know,
    he has done it for 10 years, when THE BANK OF AMERICA FROZE HIS ACCOUNT WITHOUT EVEN TELLING HIM,
    he was saying how suddenly he had many buyers on his website, which one clerk of the bank
    told him it was the cause of having his account froze.

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  29. Kalashnikat says: 28

    Hi, Beez!

    Bank of America has pulled that kind of stunt several times over the years….folks in middle management apparently decide that selling guns or parts or ammo on the internet are bad so they suddenly freeze transactions on the credit card side…anyone who does gun related business with BoA is asking to have things shut down arbitrarily and for no good reason, and without warning…
    There are other merchant credit card processors, though BoA used to be one of the cheaper ones…

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