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And they say Wayne LaPierre is crazy? I’ll show you crazy.

                                       

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After tragedies there is often a call for action – any action- regardless of how ineffective it might be. This week Wayne LaPierre of the NRA made a speech in which he called for armed cops in schools and it was ridiculed by Sen. Richard Blumenthal and Sen-elect Chris Murphy of Connecticut. Blumenthal called it “sadly and shamefully inadequate.” Murphy called it “revolting and tone-deaf.” The New York Daily News called LaPierre the “craziest man on Earth.” Let’s examine those accusations.

Among LaPierre’s remarks:

- We care about our money, so we protect our banks with armed guards. American airports, office buildings, power plants, court houses, even sports stadiums are all protected by armed security.

- We care about our money, so we protect our banks with armed guards. American airports, office buildings, power plants, court houses, even sports stadiums are all protected by armed security.

- A gun in the hands of a Secret Service agent protecting the President isn’t a bad word. A gun in the hands of a soldier protecting the United States isn’t a bad word. And when you hear the glass breaking in your living room at 3 a.m. and call 911, you won’t be able to pray hard enough for a gun in the hands of a good guy to get there fast enough to protect you.

So why is the idea of a gun good when it’s used to protect our President or our country or our police, but bad when it’s used to protect our children in their schools?

Crazy, right?

Right now 30% of schools have a police officer. Police chiefs in both St. Louis and Cincinnati have called for training and arming teachers. President Bill Clinton passed a program called “COPS in schools” and it placed 2200 police officers in schools. You may have read that the attack at Columbine wasn’t prevented by a police officer, but ask anyone blurting that out if Columbine would have been better off without a police officer present. Who knows how many more would have been killed without a cop present? Neil Gardner, the cop who was on duty at Columbine on the day of the attack thinks armed cops in schools is a good idea.

Are they all crazy?

Gun free zones? They are magnets for killers. John Lott writes:

“With just one single exception, the attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

This from the NY Times:

As the nation’s leaders devise new gun control strategies following the Connecticut shooting, they should look for ways to strengthen state laws that govern the possession and use of firearms. In too many states, these laws are weak and, in some cases, seem almost designed to encourage violence.

Over the years, states have made it increasingly possible for almost any adult to carry a concealed handgun in public, including on college campuses, in churches and in state parks — places where people tend to congregate in large numbers and where, in a rational world, guns should be strictly prohibited.

Sandy Hook School is a gun-free zone.

Gun free zones mean gun free for those who would abide by the law only and map out a killing zone safe for those who would illegally conceal a weapon and commit murder.

That is crazy.

What is it that liberals want? They claim they want an assault-weapons ban, a ban on high-capacity ammunition clips, and background checks on all gun purchases. I have no objection to any of them but the fact is together they would not have prevented Newtown. Not at all. Nancy Lanza’s weapons were legal. At close range her handguns were as lethal as the rifle. Adam Lanza might even have been able to buy one the 2000 assault rifles Eric Holder’s DOJ sent into Mexico. And any background check must also ask about mental illness in the household.

There were two things which could have prevented Newtown: responsible handling of weapons and early intervention of mental illness. Adam Lanza should never have had access to his mother’s weapons. He was burgeoning sociopath and his mother knew it. In February Connecticut defeated Senate bill 452, known as AOT, which would have made it easier for Nancy Lanza to have her son treated. From CBS:

“Had the AOT bill been passed, it would have given the state the right to institutionalize a person who is mentally ill for treatment if the state has enough evidence to believe that the person could be a danger to himself or the community.”

The ACLU called it “outrageously discriminatory.” So on your way out Connecticut can thank its legislators and the ACLU for their part in Newtown. Apparently they believe the rights of sociopaths outweigh the lives of children.

That’s nuts.

Guns do not teach kids to kill. The NRA does not teach kids to kill. Hollywood does that. Video games do that. TV does that. Our culture worships movie stars- the same stars who profit enormously from the portrayal of violence and death. Tom Cruise will teach your kids how to kill in his new movie. There are websites glorifying Tarantino death scenes. They have desensitized us to death. They have cheapened life. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were big fans of Tarantino:

It has been confirmed that both Harris and Klebold were fans of Natural Born Killers. Prior to the massacre, they had used the initials ‘NBK’ as their code. In a journal entry dated, April 10, 1998, Harris wrote “When I go NBK and people say things like “Oh, it was so tragic,” or “oh he is crazy!” or “It was so bloody”, just because your mommy and daddy told you blood and violence is bad, you think it’s a fucking law of nature? Wrong, only science and math are true, everything, and I mean every fucking thing else is Man made. Before I leave this worthless place, I will kill whoever I deem unfit for anything at all, especially life.” Harris also referred to April 20 as “the holy April morning of NBK”, and in an undated journal entry, Klebold (who was severely depressed) wrote “I’m stuck in humanity. Maybe going NBK w. Eric is the way to break free”.[6] During one of the “Basement Tapes” found in Harris and Klebold’s homes, the perpetrators mention how Hollywood will want to adapt their life story, and they debate on whether or not Steven Spielberg or Quentin Tarantino (who conceived the story for Natural Born Killers) are appropriate choices to direct the proposed film.

Ironically, in response to the tragedy in Newtown actress Marg Helgenberger said that “one can only hope” that many NRA members would be shot.

And it’s LaPierre who’s crazy?

Cable trucks in the road doing repairs get an armed cop on traffic duty. Parades get armed cops. After hours school events get armed cops. Protests get armed cops. Why not schools? How to pay for it? For starters, we could redirect the billions thrown away now on green stimulus failures.

Guns are part of our Constitution. They’re not going away. LaPierre only echoed what many have said for years- including President Clinton. LaPierre could have recommended peace on Earth and liberals would have savaged him for it simply because he is the NRA. They put the jerk in knee jerk. Next I expect we’ll see our esteemed politicians blaming cars for drunk driving and pencils for misspelling.

Finally, Blumenthal stated that an armed guard at Columbine did not prevent the 1999 massacre.

Neither did a ban on assault weapons, Dick..

Now liberals want to implement rules that only law-abiding citizens will respect and will not prevent another Newtown or Columbine. Nothing to stop Hollywood from glorifying violence and death. Nothing about keeping the mentally ill from weapons.

That’s crazy. Batshit crazy.

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81 Responses to And they say Wayne LaPierre is crazy? I’ll show you crazy.

  1. Liberal1
    don’t pick on the right wing, we know they are always right on any issues, but the libs in power areto nuts to take the advice given free, no they choose to listen to their employed government lawyers
    they go fish by the thousands and pay with the people’s money to give them stupid advice where they
    put themselves on the money pit, those OBAMA school buddy who where snorking
    while the class was in progress,
    how can you be surprise to find your own ignorance when you come here, and try to blame the conservatives for your defectuous mindset.
    well anyway, happy HOLLYDAYS just the same,
    FOR YOU,

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  2. Cary
    you must know that your name is very complicated to repeat,
    it remind of the words ; carry, cari, carriage, care, carbon, carroway, carnation, carrel,
    carrot, carob, carnivore
    and many more,
    by hope you have a good HOLLYDAY TIME

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  3. Cary says: 53

    @ilovebeeswarzone:

    The comment was as follows:

    @Cary: Ya been called an idiot yet today Carey?

    As a big fan of irony, I quite enjoyed this comment.

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  4. Cary
    don’t jump to conclusion , the person is not you, it’s CAREY,
    WHY WOULD YOU TAKE IT PERSONALY?
    DON’T WORRY IT HAPPEN TO ME, BUT THE NAME WAS TO BEE,
    SO I DISCARDED IT AS WRONG PERSON. AND KNEW THEY DID NOT MEAN ADDRESS TO ME
    BYE

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  5. Cary says: 55

    @ilovebeeswarzone:

    Okay, Bees.

    Happy New Year.

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  7. Lola I says: 56

    Why doesn’t the Oppressive Left care about protecting the Children?

    What is it about the Gun-grabbing ghouls and their BSMedia minions with protecting themselves and not our precious offspring? They lost their collective cookies over the mere suggestion that armed police offices keep kids safe.

    In part it could be their Dracula like aversion to guns in the hands of individuals not of their security details. But you have to ask yourself why is the oppressive left so adamant about not protecting the Children?

    There has to be something else at work here – some other reason than Hoplophobia in the extreme – but what could it be? Why don’t they want someone – either uniformed officer or a CCW person in the schools to stop the next maniac?

    Ask yourself – why would they be against a proven security measure they employ for themselves?

    Perhaps the simplest explanation is the best – they simply don’t want children protected because that doesn’t further their socialist nation agenda.

    We might as well just come right out and say it: They don’t want the children protected because they want more massacres.

    They WANT to see wall to wall coverage of dead bodies and screaming parents. The WANT to see days of coverage as the BSMedia milks ever last bit of agony from these Serious Crisis that they see as prime opportunities to further their destruction of the Constitution.

    Just look at how they almost can’t hide their giddiness over the news of these massacres.

    Look at how they can’t wait to seize upon these “Crisis” with declarations about how other innocent gun owners are somehow guilty of the crime just because they exercise their God-given and Constitutionally affirmed right of self defense

    They recently put in place legislation to further restrict our rights – taking the advantage of the deaths of young children to enhance their power grabbing agenda. Problem is, the emotional groundswell from Sandy Hook has subsided so they can’t “Use” it as a means to deprive the innocent of their right of self-defense.

    Now, like the death vultures that they are, they are just waiting for their next “opportunity”. They’re patiently waiting for the first repots of a shooting in school or some other ‘Gun-Free’ zone to spring into action.

    But now, someone comes along and makes the very practical suggestion of protecting the children and they go Ballistic. They cannot abide this because it would reduce the chances of another death opportunity for them.

    Armed officers would take away what they see as ‘collateral’ damage {dead children} in their quest for a disarmed and pacified socialist national utopia.

    Armed guards already protect their children, but most of our children aren’t afforded that security.

    So why doesn’t everyone ask the gun grabbing ghouls of the Oppressive Left why they don’t want the children protected?

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  8. Richard Wheeler says: 57

    LOLA#56 says “The left doesn’t want to protect the children because thy want more massacres.”
    You are a fool.
    Curt With comments like this I can see why you removed thumbs up/down.
    Semper Fi and Happy New Year to you.

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  9. Curt says: 58

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Curt With comments like this I can see why you removed thumbs up/down.

    I removed it because it was a waste of bandwidth. On average 3-4 people used it, not worth it. If more people are inclined to use it I would be happy to put it back up.

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  10. johngalt says: 59

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Rich, how is that any different than the left blaming the murders on the NRA and the law-abiding people who own guns across the country? Have you ever called them fools for doing so?

    Please link where you have, if you have. I’ll wait patiently.

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  11. CURT
    I notice too, and I’m happy to get rid of the one giving me unlike
    on anything, even on me wishing good to the FA people,
    best to you all year,

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  12. Richard Wheeler says: 61

    J.G. The left saying the NRA’S stance on gun control or lack thereof contributes to the ability of mass murders to occur is not the same as saying the NRA or Conservatives WANT more massacres to occur.

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  13. johngalt says: 62

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Rich, the left has said that very thing that you claim they aren’t saying. Good luck selling anyone on your paraphrase of their words. Or maybe, you could just stop shilling for the left, insisting that they haven’t said what we have seen and heard them say.

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  14. Lola I
    yes and they promote abortion also, there is so many who are not born,
    it’s enough to cry, is in it.
    what the first fathers would have said of it becoming a law in two next century,
    they would shrugged with horror,
    some one mention in millions, all in the limbo,
    with that mentality, they where voted back in, can you believe.
    bye

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  15. Richard Wheeler says: 64

    J.G PLS put in front of me where a Liberal said the NRA or Conservatives “Want more massacres to occur to promote their agenda” I’ll condemn it outright because I certainly don’t believe that.
    Do you disown the outlandish statement made by Lola and endorsed by Bees (talk about shills)?

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  16. Anja S says: 65

    @Richard Wheeler

    Me think doth protest to much.

    Can you explain why the Left refuses to take the very measures to ensure the safety of schoolchildren they avail for themselves?

    Sen. Feinstein had a CCW permit to defend herself, and now she wants to deny that to others, Why?

    Simple logic and examples from real shootings has shown Concealed carry to be the best defense against mass shooting massacres and yet the Left wants to go in the opposite direction taking away the rights of the law-abiding.

    Why are they defying logic this way?

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  17. Richard Wheeler says: 66

    J.G. Waiting— Do you condone or condemn Lola’s assertion in #56?

    Anja S As a former Marine Officer trained to proficiency in weapons ranging from 45 cal to M-60 some quick thoughts.
    Civilians don’t need automatic weapons or 30 round clips to protect themselves or hunt game.
    If the purpose is to overthrow a “Marxist” government—–GOT NEWS You can’t arm yourself sufficiently to outgun the U.S. Marines.

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  18. retire05 says: 67

    @Richard Wheeler:

    You assume that U.S. Marines would follow an order to disarm their fellow Americans.

    Frankly, I don’t think they would do that, and I think there would be mass desertions on the part of our Marines if the President ordered them to violate the U.S. Constitution and the Second Amendment. Marines take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not some Marxist wannbe that currently resides at 1600 Pennslyvania Avenue, that is, when he’s not spending our tax dollars on his tony Hawaiian vacations.

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  19. johngalt says: 68

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Yet we have a lobby, the leadership of the NRA, who function as enablers of mass murder. And that’s what they are. They’re enablers of mass murder

    Rep Jerrod Nadler, NY Dem

    Who wants mass shootings to continue? The NRA does.

    http://theperiodical.info/2012/07/25/who-wants-mass-shootings-continue-the-nra-does/

    ”There is only one way,” O’Donnell said. “The way that Wayne LaPierre wants to preserve: mass murder by firearm, an all-too-common American way of death.”

    Lawrence O’Donnell, MSNBC host

    O’Donnell doubles down on that;

    O’Donnell called LaPierre a “lobbyist for mass-murderers,”

    MSNBC’s Toure’

    These moments appear bad for the NRA and they sort of run and hide as if they know that these moments appear bad, but NRA membership booms in these moments, gun sales boom in these moments, Bushmaster sales are booming. In the wake of the Gabby Giffords’s shooting, Glocks boomed, so, in a perverse way, they would never admit this publicly, these moments are actually good for them, so how can we really not expect them to want these moments?

    And I haven’t even touched on the various comments seen across the web, on liberal and liberal/progressive sites, from the people who frequent and comment on these stories at sites such as DailyKos, Huffpo, and DU. I’m sure their comments are even worse, and yet, here you are, condemning the comment of a person who is simply here at FA, commenting on the story.

    You know damn well that there have been many comments directed at the NRA calling them “enablers” of mass murder, or suggesting that the NRA wants these murders to happen. And yet, you sit there all smug in your willful blindness on what those people are really saying.

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  20. Richard Wheeler says: 69

    J.G Thanks see my #64.
    Retire o5 I believe the U.S Marines will follow the lawful orders of a democratically elected C.I.C.
    I am very doubtful a CIC would order a unilateral disarming of the citizenry. I believe that an outlandish fear that doesn’t warrant the stockpiling of munitions.
    Personally, I’d say energy better spent on demanding term limits for all, and re-instituting the draft that levels the playing field for all.

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  21. retire05 says: 70

    @Richard Wheeler:

    I believe the US Marines will follow the lawful orders of a democratically elected CIC

    The operative word here, Rich, is lawful. The US Marines would have a lawful right to refuse to carry out any order that is not lawful or Constitutional. The confiscation/registration of all firearms in the US would be a clear violation of the Second Amendment, and many Marines, along with many other active military, are themselves legal gun owners that are not always registered with some federal entity.

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  22. Hard Right says: 71

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Wow. You have never condemned anything a democrat has said, ever. Even when we have asked you about certain vile comments they made. You’ve made it very clear you are ok with what a democrat says no matter how disgusting. You have no business asking others to do what you will not.

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  23. Richard Wheeler
    maybe you would obey to slaughter the law abiding citizens,
    but the REAL MARINES WOULD NOT, NEVER ON THEIR OWN CITIZENS BUT THEY WOULD TAKE OVER THE WHITE HOUSE AND THROW ALL THOSE OCCUPIERS
    IN THE SEQUESTRATION BIN
    THAT INCLUDE YOU,
    YOU SEEM TO FORGET THIS IS THE PEOPLE POWER ABOVE THE LEADERS WHO WOULD ORDER ANYTHING FROM THE MILITARY, THE LEADER WOULD SEE HIS ASS MOVED TO INDONESIA
    FASTER THAN YOU THINK POSSIBLE.
    AFTER ALL THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA HE DID AND CONTINUE TO DO IT,
    THE GLASS WOULD SPILL ON THE LAST DROP,

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  24. Richard Wheeler says: 73

    H.R See 64# I Outright condemn any Dem. who suggests N.R.A. wants more massacres to occur to promote their agenda.
    I also condemn the assertion by Lola and adopted by bees that Liberals “want more massacres to occur to promote their agenda.” Equally absurd and adds nothing to the discussion.
    Wouldn’t you and J.G. agree?

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  25. Hard Right says: 74

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Was that so hard? Thank you Rich.

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  26. Anja S says: 75

    @Richard Wheeler:
    What does that have to do with my questions? Besides distracting from them since you’re unable to aptly resond to them.

    Can you explain why the Left refuses to take the very measures to ensure the safety of schoolchildren they avail for themselves?

    Simple logic and examples from real shootings has shown Concealed carry to be the best defense against mass shooting massacres and yet the Left wants to go in the opposite direction taking away the rights of the law-abiding.

    Why are they defying logic this way?

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  27. Anja S says: 76

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Are you really condemning their right of free speech?

    BTW, you have yet to address my questions

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  28. retire05
    and we forget the MARINES OBEY A COMMANDER MARINE HIMSELF WHO WOULD NOT APPROVE,
    HE GAVE THE OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION, AND SINCE THAT SUPPOSE ORDER WOULD DENY
    THE CONSTITUTION LAW, FOLLOWED FOR CENTURY, THIS WOULD BLOCK ANY ORDER,
    HE SURE WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF THE CONSTITUTION AS HE SAID IT’S IN HIS WAY,
    IMAGINE IF HE COULD GET RID OF IT HOW AMERICA WOULD BECOME,
    IT’S FRIGHTENING JUST TO ENVISAGE THE CONSEQUENCES

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  29. Richard Wheeler says: 78

    Anja S. #76 It’s true, everyone has the right to be stupid.
    RE # 75 “The left” obviously disagrees with your assessment.
    Off subject Last night Texas A&M’s Heisman winner, Johnny(Football) Manziel, put on the most amazing performance by a quarterback I’ve seen in 50+ years of watching college football. INCREDIBLE

    Semper Fi GO IRISH

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  30. Anja S says: 79

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Are you ever going to answer those questions?

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