Obama To Win Second Term…

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A few bright spots…one big dim spot. Hello Iran…goodbye Isreal. Hello taxes…goodbye freedom. Hello free stuff….goodbye responsibility.

Hello status-quo election with 8% unemployment.

Amazing.

Stanley Kurtz:

Barack Obama has won re-election. Will America now lose it’s distinct characteristics and be transformed into a Euro-style welfare state? Quite possibly, yet there remains one way out. At this point, only a sweeping new grassroots rebellion on the model of the Tea Party could change things. In the wake of a presidential election so discouraging for conservatives, a massive new Tea Party wave may not appear to be in the cards. Yet a resurgent second-term challenge to Obama from populist conservatives is far more likely than it seems.

That’s because the president’s first term hasn’t really happened yet, at least not in the conventional sense. Ordinarily, a president enacts various policies in his first term, the public test-drives the changes, and the president’s reelection campaign is a referendum on those new policies. The difference in Obama’s case is that in order to secure reelection, he has backloaded nearly all of his most transformative and controversial changes into a second term. Obama’s next term will actually put into effect healthcare reform, Dodd-Frank, and a host of other highly controversial policies already surging through the pipeline, yet still barely known to the public.

Obama’s transformative changes to date have been far more theory than practice. While reelection may bring sullen public acceptance when Obama’s most controversial policies actually take effect, the reverse is equally possible. Once people actually begin to experience de facto healthcare rationing, for example, they might get even angrier than they were in 2009-2010 when rationing was only a prospect. The same principle applies to a host of other issues (cap-and-trade via regulation, financial regulations, comprehensive immigration reform, national school curriculum, urban-suburban policy). And this time the public could be angered not only by the policies, but by growing recognition that actual enactment of Obama’s agenda was delayed for political purposes.

The fact that Obama has only very narrowly secured reelection–unusual, since reelected presidents normally expand their initial electoral margins–might seem to contradict this high-conflict scenario. You can certainly argue that a barely-reelected president would be smart to pull in his horns and govern from the middle. Yet that’s not who Barack Obama is, and it’s certainly not the premise upon which he ran his campaign. Obama took the intentionally risky path of alienating half the country with an in-your-face negative campaign because he believed that demographics now allow him to cobble together a leftist majority in support of transformative change. Whether that demographic vision is valid or not, Obama and his advisors believe that it is, and so will govern with relative disregard for opposition, however vocal.

The reelection of a Republican House of Representatives might also seem to have a moderating impact on the president, and to a limited degree it does. Yet Obama has cast aside conventional restraints on executive power with his pre-election orders on welfare reform and immigration. He will thus interpret reelection as a license to rule by executive order–well beyond the traditional limits on executive power. In the absence of intense populist pressure on a Congress facing another Tea Party electoral wave in 2014, it will be impossible to prevent Obama from abusing his executive authority.

Exit thought-

2004 Bush wins re-election, Senate R-55/D-45 with a GOP House
2012 Obama wins re-election, Senate D-55/R-45 with a GOP House

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I guess you people are just going to have to complain about Obama for another for years. And then, if Hillary Clinton decides to run in 2016—or if she decides not to run, and after the economy runs its course and improves—then the Democrats will run Andrew Cuomo (and if the conservatives can’t get their act together, and become less of a reactionary party), and he’ll win. And if Hillary runs in 2016, she’ll win—and Andrew Cuomo after her. This means we’ll have at least 8 to 16 more years of a Democratic presidency.

Gary Johnson voters elected Obama. They are the difference in FL and OH.

I am the first to admit, my projections were wrong. Too bad, as Curt pointed out, it would seem that Iran, handouts, class warfare and the socialists in the Dem party have won this one.

THEY STOLE THE ELECTION FROM MITT ROMNEY,
KARL ROE SAID THERE ARE 7 HUNDREDS OF NOT COUNTED VOTES YET TO COME, FROM COYOTEE COUNTY, CINCINATI
ONE PART IS REPUBLICAN VOTES FROM HAMILTON COUNTY
PLUS THERE IS ILLEGAL VOTES FOUND AND DECLARE TODAY,
A BIG THING DEBATED AT FOX BY KARL INSISTING THAT IT’S NOT RIGHT TO CALL A WIN BEFORE THOSE VOTES TO COME.

This election is going to get millions of people killed.

I was out there in the freezing cold, in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts this morning, in a fairly liberal ward, and the line was huge. On my way to work I saw a line three city blocks, probably a two hour wait, in an even more liberal city, and it was 35 degrees. I mention this only because I know many on the Right have discounted polls based on the enthusiasm factor. Unscientific as my observations were, I saw no lack of enthusiasm. And I am someone who honestly thought Scott Brown could win, splitting votes, based on anecdotal evidence.

I don’t ask anyone here to like an Obama win, or Obama, but I encourage everyone to try to understand why those who voted for him did, beyond the “Socialist” cliches. I encourage it in the spirit of someone who comes here to get the conservative perspective. I largely don’t agree with that perspective, but I think I have a more nuanced understanding of it that I wouldn’t otherwise if I didn’t seek it out.

Ironic thing is Romney still has the popular vote as I type this by 300,000 votes.

A national election that’s this close tells politicians on both sides they’re going to have to be more flexible and move toward the middle. I’m glad it’s out of the way. The proximity of the election has been standing in the way of actually getting down to business. No one will be able to get away with that for another 2 or 4 years.

I’m waiting and hoping for a major backlash from the right in two years. We’ll pack the House and Senate. I agree with Stanley Kurtz above. If anything, the fact that the election was this close and the fact that Obama lost the popular vote should tell him that America’s not on his side. He does need to take his head out of his ass and govern from the middle if he wants to be a president that’s gonna be worth a damn.

Ha. Like that’s ever going to happen.

All through this election cycle, I have not voiced my opinion on who the winner would be, although I felt deep down in my bones that Obama would win, if for no other reason than the number of people who have been added to the welfare rolls during his first term.

But I would like to point out something that will impact elections in the future:

Texas, again, just elected another Hispanic, this time to the U.S. Senate, Ted Cruz. Add him to the two Hispanics from Texas that were elected to the House in 2010, Bill Flores and Francisco Canseco. That is notable in a number of ways.

Romney is winning Texas 59.7% to Obama’s 39.7% The demographic make up of Texas is 45.3% white, 11.8% black and 37.6% Hispanic. If we remove the 11.8% blacks from Obama’s numbers, that leaves 27.9% of the vote that had to come from some whites, as those in Travis County, and it does not account for the 37.6% of voters who are Hispanic. That means that at 10+ Hispanic voters had to check the box for Romney. My guess is that the Hispanic vote for the Republican ticket will exceed 30% in Texas. Those are no small numbers.

Bexar County (San Antonio) is strongly Hispanic at almost 60%. In 2008, Bexar County went 52.23% for Obama and 46.69% McCain. Tonight, the state shows Bexar County almost equally split at 49.4% Romney, 49.75% Obama. I have, I believe, noted here before that there is a movement in Texas by Hispanics to the Republican Party. That movement will eventually transpire into other states with large Hispanic populations. As educated, first generation Hispanics move toward the Republican Party in Texas, the trend will bleed over into New Mexico, Arizona and other states.

The Texas GOP has done a stellar job in recruiting our Hispanics. In my county alone, which is primarily white, a number of our elected officials are Hispanic Republicans. The national GOP has not done what we have to court, and recruit conservative Hispanics, and that is the fault of the Republican Party leadership. Hispanics are rapidly becoming a major player in the political world, and I would remind those like Lib1, who is currenly blowing up his doll in joy, Hispanics do not suffer from white guilt.

I hope I’m wrong but we’re about to see massive unemployment, significantly higher gas (car) prices, significantly higher electrical prices more in line with the PRK. We’re going to see more appeasement of Islamists here. We’re going to see the continued shredding of our Laws and more of rule by whim. We’re going to see China pushing harder Militarily as we get weaker. We’re going to become more vulnerable across the globe. That said the Republican Party is run by a bunch of gutless worms without the sense to defend America.

The PRK, strangely enough is not voting to tax themselves into oblivion. But yet they are willing to vote for the guy that will hurt us more than Moonbeam is and will be doing. But the fools here are willing to tax business more to make sure they leave the state faster.

@crosspatch: And I pray that one of them is the dicktator.

I am literally stunned at the outcome of this election. When Carter screwed up the economy, people still had enough sense to realize that re-electing such an obvious leftwing failure from both economic and foreign policy perspectives was a nonstarter. I am gobsmacked that so many people today are so incredibly ignorant that they ignored the obvious effect of Obama’s marxist and anti-American policies which led to 8% unemployment, 43 million on food stamps, a disasterous bendover to islamic terrorism, and 3 consecutive years of no federal budget…a Constitutional obligation for the president. We have four straight years of deficits each over $1 TRILLION dollars, and somehow there were enough economically ignorant people that they could vote to re-elect this stuttering failure to another 4 years?
It is of little consolation that the mobs of morons who voted for this marxst bastard will get exactly what they deserve for being so shortsightedly idiotic. My brother and I were talking when the EV count was tied in the 170 range, and he related to me one of his acquaintences who has been unemployed for THREE YEARS. His wife is working as a bus driver to pay all the bills…and both of these people actually voted for Obama. How do you get people this economically illiterate to understand they have just condemned us to 4 more years of Obama’s failed economic policies? When in the history of our country have people thought someone with such a horrible record deserved another 4 years to further screw up the country?
More businesses will leave the country after this, taking their jobs with them. More wealthy people will elect to retire rather than risk losing what they already have for the inevitably higher taxes and even greater deficit spending that will march straight into further muggingour pocket books. Medical care in this country is now irrevocably doomed as we have lost the last chance at repealing Obamacare. Religious institutions will stop providing health care (at least the Catholic ones) rather than be forced by these secular humanist thugs to violate deeply held religious principles. Doctors will quit practicing medicine, so the bogus “46 million without health care” will still not have health care because their will be no physicians to see them.
I served 25 years in the military, and I have never been so disgusted with my countrymen for this debacle. On what grounds did this shining turd deserve to be re-elected? I shudder to think of the disasters heading our way with regard to SCOTUS appointees, ever expanding rule by unaccountable bureaucrats, the further emasculation and disrespect of our military, and God help us with our national debt now.
I had been fairly confident that Romney would pull off this win tonight. My stomach became more and more unsettled as I listened to that asswipe Gibbs talk about the need for republicans to “compromise” with the president now. Unfortunately, the House Republicans have shown repeatedly that they do not have the spine to truly stand up to the pressure from the MSM and they will inevitably cave. Obama and his cronies now have all the flexibilty they need to give the Russians and the jihadists all they desire. The EPA will give us $7 or $8 dollar gasoline per gallon, and prices for food, shelter, clothing…EVERYTHING are going to start rising through the roof. As always with leftards, they will blame the ëvil rich” for not willingly giving up more and more of their income to those damned government thugs who do nothing but live high on the hog and buy the votes of the mobocracy.
Rest assured, the MSM will hail the death of the Tea Party with this turn of events. They will gleefully say that repblicans are just out of touch, and that America is now a left of center nation. I note ironically that the same dems who were wialing about the need to do away with the electoral college before are now mute on the subject, as of this writing with Romney having the lead in the popular vote but having lost the EC.
Ayn Rand was far more prescient than we knew. It is now time to go galt, and let the mobocracy choke on the rotting carcass of what was once the greatest nation on earth, but is now nothing but a stumbling, decrepit, doddering old man about to have his final myocardial infarction.
God help us all. His Judgment will be coming soon.

@John:

John, I don’t know why you are surprised. The GOP now has this program where they nominate the guy who was the loser in the last go-round. John McCain lost to Bush, and was nominated in 2008 to run against Obama. Romney lost to John McCain in 2008 and was nominated to run against Mr. Let Me Give You Some Taxpayer Largess Obama.

I am not the only one on this blog that warned about nominating a man who was a northeastern liberal squish until he decided to try to distance himself from his one term as governor, using the excuse “But what could I do? The states had a Democrat Congress.” Do you really think that true conservatives saw any difference between Romney, northeastern liberal squish, and Obama, head of the Chicago mafia?

Until conservatives become as vocal as the progressives, we will continue to lose national elections.

@Liberal1 (Objectivity):

Trust me…after 4 more years..and no more Bush excuses….you’ll be complaining too. You can share your angst with all the young people waiting for free shit and good schools after the mandate kicks in..who’ll be adding another couple thousand a year to their health care bill, studying in the same crumbling schools, and facing the same unemployment and debt situation (if not worse). Obama ….Not..FDR

You know, for a northeastern liberal squish, Romney did extremely well. Call it what you may, that either people are voting for Romney because they really like him or they’re voting for Romney because they want to get rid of Obama, but Romney did much better than I expected. People are tired of Obama. He’s proven that the only change he’s going to give us is what he’ll leave us with after taking all our money. And if you do look at how each state voted, you can see far more red states than blue.

That being said, for the person above baffled at how people can fall on such hard times and still vote for O’Bummer, you said it. It’s because they’re illiterate. Oftentimes it’s the case that they just follow what everyone else says instead of looking into matters themselves. They don’t do their own research. Young people are the same. Being only 23 years old myself, I’m honestly ashamed of people in my age group. They just don’t know and they don’t try to understand. They follow the MSM that labels republicans like us as “evil” and go with Obama thinking it’s the right thing to do. Blissful ignorance.

I hate my generation.

A 1-point victory for Obama isn’t exactly a flaming mandate. But what bothers me more is the Senate. We could have had this. ANY of the other candidates in the Missouri Senate primary were stronger against McCaskill than Aiken was. This points out a larger strategic issue:

People complain of RINO Senators crossing over and voted with Democrats. If you look at the history of that, you will find that they only do that when Republicans are in the minority. Once Republicans become the majority, that stops and we see Senators from the Democratic party crossing over to join the Republicans on legislation.

The so-called “tea party” candidates for Senate have generally been a disaster. They have cost us four Senate seats so far. Castle could have won in Delaware but we ran McDonnell. Sue Lowden was polling ahead of Reid in Nevada but we ran Sharon Angle. In both of those cases it was because the “establishment candidate” was considered a “RINO”. So in our “all or nothing” blindness, rather than getting 85% of something, we chose 100% of nothing. In Missouri, ANY of the other Republicans in the primary could have beaten McCaskill but the weakest horse was chosen and he promptly opened his mouth and blew his chances. Then we threw Lugar under the bus. That’s FOUR Senate seats, folks. We are looking at the Democrats walking out tomorrow with 53 seats. That COULD have been 49 by now.

Before we concentrate on kicking out the “RINOS”, we need to concentrate on getting a majority. Once we get a majority in the Senate, the aisle crossing will stop and, in fact, will come the other way. These “tea party” Senate candidates have not been helping anyone but the Democrats. Sure, we can primary these guys, but lets get a majority first.

MItt was on track to lose by double digits, until he tracked hard left, towards the center. Had he done so in February, Gingrich or Santorum would have won — and Obama would have had electoral votes in the high 300s. As it was, Obama got a 1% popular vote majority, thanks to the amazing political skill of Mitt and company.

Face facts. Never again will an American Presidential election be won on the basis of the votes of white males. In evolution, the survivors are those who adapt to the changing environment.

This is the grave of Mike O’Day.
Who died maintaining his right of way.
His mind was clear.
His will was strong.
But he’s just as dead as if he’d been wrong.

Why don’t you do the same thing as Rush Limbaugh?

Move to Canada.

Or wherever.

Reminds me of a timeless Dylan song.

Come gather ’round people wherever you roam
And admit that the waters around you have grown
And accept it that soon you’ll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’ or you’ll sink like a stone,
For the times, they are a chang -in’

There is nothing new under the sun.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Meaning — the more they change.
Take it from one who came of age in the 1960s.

Adapt. Or die.

Meaning actually talk to your political opponents, rather than trashing them. Meaning compromise, when necessary, to get things done, for the good of the country.

Obama isn’t eligible for a third term. It’s no longer necessary for the number one agenda to be the defeat of the Kenyan Islamist.

Christie wants to be President. The only thing standing in his way is 32 ounce Big Gulp sodas.

He should rent a condo in Manhattan.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

@Leah: A 1% win isn’t exactly a flaming mandate. And I hope all those twitter accounts that were bragging about having voted multiple times are subpoenaed and investigated.

@openid.aol.com/runnswim: “MItt was on track to lose by double digits, until he tracked hard left, towards the center. ”

In any Presidential campaign you campaign to your base in the primary and then campaign to your opposition/independents in the general.

Sandy cost Mitt this election. 15% of those responding to exit polls said that Obama’s Sandy posturing greatly influenced their decision. Christie was instrumental in that. The public’s perception of Obama’s handling of Sandy was set by Christie. He basically cost Mitt the race. He could have done as Bloomberg did and said he was too busy to be a “greek column” for Obama but he chose to play that role. I don’t like Christie very much today.

Tom Concur. I too came here to get the prospective of Conservs. and learned much from folks like Mata, Aye and Word. I also wanted them to know there are some Marines and Vets out here that are Dems,
I continue to respect your reasoned input.

Note to crosspatch BHO WON POPULAR VOTE and Johnson got few votes beyond his extended family.
Repubs lost big in Senate with out of the mainstream candidates. Huge mistake

Hi Crosspatch,

I agree with you entirely, But the lesson is the same. It’s not just the Presidential election. Look at the Senate races as well.

The Tea Party is the path to irrelevancy. As a Democrat, I love the comments on the WSJ site, stating that the GOP made a mistake in choosing a “RINO” to lead their ticket.

Oh, yeah. Give me Sarah Palin in 2016. Or Santorum. Or Ryan.

The Tea Party was God’s gift to Democrats.

Believe it or not (and I hope that you don’t believe it).

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

@Richard Wheeler: Yeah, Obama has the popular vote by about 1% Johnson won 2%. Without Johnson, Romney could have won.

We now have our own Mussolini. With Harry Reid and a Democratic majority in the Senate, I expect that in his second term this narcissistic in chief will very soon let loose the tyrannical socialist/sociopath he has kept hidden. It is also clear that the leadership of the GOP must be replaced.This should have been an easy win. It is incomprehensible that any president with a record like Obama’s should have been reelected. The complacent “free press” has become an elite propaganda ministry and can no longer be trusted to be telling the people the naked truth.

God help Israel, our troops and ‘The People”. We need to prepare for the desperate, hard times ahead. We can expect during his next term that the Supreme Court will be tipped, possibly irreversibly to the left. We shall have to be extremely vigilant towards the safe guarding of our Second Amendment (and other) rights. With recent cyber-security laws, and loss of our 4th amendment protection from warrant-less wiretaps, and a cyber-snooping “Big Brother” bureaucrats, I fear we shall have to be very watchful for the creation of that Civilian National Security “Corpse” that Obama mentioned in his 2008 run for the nomination.

@openid.aol.com/runnswim: Well, I agree that you do NOT win a national Presidential election with someone hard right. Republicans are less than 35% of the electorate. You can not win with 35% of the vote. You HAVE to get crossovers from the other party and independent voters in order to win. The problem is that the hard core of both far left and far right believe that only someone “pure” in their leftism or rightism can win.

Well, Obama gets to own two things: 1. The economy for the next four years but the next two years are going to be killers. 2: a pretty nasty storm that is getting ready to hit the area where Sandy just hit. We’ll see if we get buyer’s remorse in the next six months.

crosspatch Gary Johnson’s platform calls for legalizing gay marriage and legalizing marijuana, That’s gonna pull a lot of Repub votes. How bout Roseanne Barr? She cost Mitt votes?
Romney lost E.C. bigger than I expected.

Without Johnson, Romney could have won.

Without Nader, Gore would have won. And there would have been no Iraq. And no great recession of 2008.

At least Obama will have won the majority of the popular vote. Unlike Bush. Circa Y2K.

But, as I wrote. Think as you do. You can go with Ryan in 2016. Or you can go with a (hopefully slimmed down) RINO like Chris Christie (my new favorite Republican). You could have by now been toasting the election of President Huntsman. But you longed for Bachmann. Then Perry. Then Cain. Then Gingrich. Then Santorum. All of whom would have been utterly blown out by Obama. So you settled on a Massachusetts moderate, who was on track for a trashing, until he surprised Obama by turning into Obama’s political soul mate in the first debate (don’t you guys understand the dynamic of what really changed the race and allowed Romney to make a last minute play?).

I actually care about the country. I don’t want the choice to be between a socialist and a Tea Party flat Earth troglodyte. I don’t want a leader who appeals to only 50% of the electorate. I want a grand unifier, and so do most Americans.

I think that this is what Christie is trying to become. In my view, he’d be the odds on favorite for 2016, were he only not so darn fat. As in really, really fat. Fatter than Taft. He needs to put himself under the wing of Mike Huckabee. If he does that, the guy has a real future.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

@Richard Wheeler: Gary Johnson was a Republican who decided to run under the Libertarian banner. He pulled libertarian leaning Republicans and libertarian leaning independents and Libertarians who would otherwise vote for the Republican.

Meanwhile, from the state which ratified the Kyoto climate change treaty:

Us Californians just voted to raise our state taxes to bail out our state. California’s debt was a similar order of magnitude of that of Texas (debt to GDP ratio). California voted to increase taxes to pay off the debt. Texas is going with voodoo economics. Let’s revisit this in 4 years and see where each state stands.

The country owes a round of applause to California, for serving as an incubator/experiment for ideas for which the rest of the nation is too timid to adopt. Were it not for California, the rest of the nation would be choking on air pollution and its forests and lakes would be devastated by acid rain. And cars would still be getting 18 miles per gallon.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

“Us Californians just voted to raise our state taxes to bail out our state. ”

Which will result in a reduction in tax revenue and worsening of the problem as companies and individuals flee the increased tax taking their revenue with them. In addition, fewer businesses will start in or locate to California.

Absolutely most stupid, boneheaded move I have ever seen. This is right out of the Krugman book of fairytale economics. California just wounded itself.

Hi Cross,

Your state doesn’t need to do it. Neither does Texas. There is a lot of economic theory which gets argued. But isn’t is great that some states voluntarily agree to perform “incubator” experiments to test and challenge conventional wisdom?

If we Californians crash and burn, all the rest of you guys will have ample opportunity to gloat. But what if, once again, we prove that we actually know what we are doing? We take all the risk. The rest of the country gets all the benefit. Including the $50 billion per year surplus which we Californians contribute to the national treasury (difference between taxes we send to Washington DC and the relative paltry sum we receive in return, in contradistinction to the red states, which are net consumers from the public trough).

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

Hi Curt,

With regard to the Kurtz op-ed:

Kurtz is living in the past. He thinks the electorate is the same that it was in 2004. It’s not.

You are a Californian. Remember the pre-Pete Wilson days, when Republicans were relevant, at the state level? I certainly do. Not so much, anymore. Would you agree? We just voted to increase our taxes, for goodness sake.

Colorado, a formerly reliable GOP state, just voted to legalize recreational marijuana.

What happened? California today is beyond blue. Let’s call it brown and yellow and blue. White Anglo males are an endangered species. Anglos are less than 50% of our state population and I wouldn’t trade the entrepreneurial talent in our state for that in the next three largest states, combined.

I go to mass at a parish where I can’t understand the heavily accented English of the priests. That’s where the USA is headed. Nothing can stop it. George W Bush understood this. So did Jeb Bush. They tried to warn the GOP, but the GOP wouldn’t listen.

Many of us Californians love the multiculturalism of our state. Those that don’t, I suppose, move to Texas. The next great state to flip blue.

LW/HB

@Liberal1 (Objectivity): The money and free handouts won’t last that long, but don’t let reality stand in your way.

What we have to focus on now is electing republican senators when their terms run out so we can stop obama from completing his agenda.

Hi Smorgasbord,

The only thing which saved Romney from absolute annihilation was his Etch-a-sketch makeover as a work across the aisle, compromise sort of a guy. You think that the path to glory is obstruction, as opposed to cooperation and compromise?

Do you understand what the electorate will look like, circa 2016? Do you ever again want to appoint a Supreme Court justice?

Ask George W Bush, and his brother, Jeb. Ask Chris Christie. Why didn’t the latter want to be seen on the same platform as Romney, after having a love in with Obama? Christie was the one who predicted that Romney would change the electoral landscape the night before the first debate. He gave the nominating speech at the GOP convention. Why did he distance himself from Romney in the end? Maybe because he believed in probability and statistics (Nate Silver) as opposed to self delusion (George Will, Dick Morris, et al. Karl Rove. Now that’s a guy for whom I could actually feel a little bit of schadenfreude coming on).

Christie is a very smart guy. Were I a conservative who wanted conservatives to remain relevant, I’d follow his lead. Somehow, I don’t think that Christie is going to be pulling a Mitch McConnell (“our priority is to make Obama a one term President”). Just the opposite, based on his big time Obama crush.

Look at the Senate races and other down ticket races and ballot propositions.

The Tea Party is the classic one hit wonder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-hit_wonder

Or, as told by a professional political science writer:

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/fox_news_dark_night_of_the_soul/singleton/

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

6November2012 “A day that will live in infamy.”

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/RAPH6969/101.jpg

I knew this election was going to be close and for me it was going to provide an answer to the question, as a nation has the tipping point been reached where there are more takers than there are makers?

Apparently we have reached that point which is a bit disheartening for some of us who go to work every day and do many of the right things our parents taught us to do…Maybe it’s a generational thing, I know I certainly see that difference in the young people that I interview and hire at work…The cavalier “it’s no big deal if I work here or if I lose my job tomorrow” attitude, financial responsibility just doesn’t seem to enter the equation for many.
I was hoping this nation would hold together for the another 25 years or so that I have left on this planet but maybe not, maybe we just haven’t hit rock bottom hard enough for some to wake up and smell the coffee..

Ride A Pale Horse
thank you
just great

openid.aol.com/runnswim
are you so blind as to pass the fact they rigged the election,
is in it too obvious to see?

Nate Silver. Remember that name.

He’s a U of Chicago business school economist/wunderkid.

He started out as a successful poker player. Then got into baseball sabermetrics. Finally into politics. Super sophisticated multivariate statistical modeling. He utterly totally nailed the election results. Perfect. On one side, you had professional political operatives and pundits (Dick Morris, George Will, Karl Rove). All sorts of logical explanations on why Romney was going to win. “Dems over sampled.” “Independents will break for the challenger.” etc. etc. Not Nate. Pure numbers. Not just polls, but historical data, economic data, etc. All fed into a statistical model which required tens of thousands of simulations per day, going back to June.

I got addicted to his blog 6 months ago. Hey, he got me when he first mentioned “Bayes’ Theorem.”

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/nate_silver_nails_it/

If you followed Nate (a very young man), you’d have known how this was going to turn out 3 weeks ago.

He was almost as good in 2010 and 2008. But he’s gotten better as time has gone on.

Dick Morris and Karl Rove cost themselves millions, with their totally incorrect “professional” assessments.

I think that Nate Silver will end up with more money than Mitt Romney.

He’s a true fortune teller, in the highest stake game of all.

He’ll be in world wide demand.

Hi Bees.

That’s all. Just hi. It’s nice to have someone to talk to, at 2:36 in the morning (here in the Pacific time zone). – Larry

OBAMA did not win alone, he had the UNIONS win for him,
they did all they could, and would have done anything to win the election,
now they are the master of the UNITED STATES,
openid.aol.com/runnswim what did you drink?
you expose your inner self ,you are going bare ass,
dropping your shit on the ground,
now get down and clean up your mess ,

on 4
I should have type 7 hundreds thousands votes not counted,
instead of 7 hundreds votes not counted
it was said by KARL ROE

Looking at several exit polls and in just talking to people over the last few years its pretty obvious many people are not particularly well informed. Still blaming Bush for the economy makes no logical sense. They think he caused the housing mess and when you press then as to exactly how they can’t give a concrete answer with any facts. Basing your vote on the photo you saw of the president and the governor of NJ a few days before you vote and deciding the president has done his job well is just voting on the emotion of the moment. Fact is the last 4 years did happen, they weren’t pretty and now his environmental agenda, health care law and new flexibility with Russia will play out. I don’t see good things with any of this.
Libya and hurricane Sandy would be terminal for any Republican president but without and honest media these aforementioned informed folks have little chance to know any better. No President should feel the media has his back, as this one obvious is fully aware. Pat Caddell may be right the media is a threat to our country.
If there is one place to start to turn this around its education at both high school and college level. These are essentially liberal factories. They need more diversity of thought and teaching of how to think, not what to think.

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

Us Californians just voted to raise our state taxes to bail out our state.

No you didn’t. People that don’t make $250,000 a year voted to raise the taxes on those that do. There is quite a difference Larry.

@anticsrocks: @Leah: Uh — what happened to the 2010 backlash — where in ‘ell was the 2010 backlash today?? >>> Corrections / additions are in order here — socialists communists and – not just Iran — need to add — moo-slime bro-hood AROUND the world including at least one street corner in YOUR town — , oh – and do not forget to support your local mosques — what? ya don’t have one yet close enough to you to consider “local” — not to worry — within 5 to 10 years you will be shopping for your very own prayer rug and / kissing satan’s a$$ in too many ways — MORE than you are now — to mention. Larn yer way to spelling “cali-fate”

Look to austerity kids — history is repeating itself — at least in 1936 the country had yet to be completely compromised by the internationalists — and most of WA – District of Criminals were still Americans with a capital A — now we are completely infiltrated by the marxists – moo-slimes and other satan suckers — The absolute worst years of the “Great Depression” were 1936 and 1937 — dust bowl and Grapes of Wrath days — and the American fools still came out of their post prohibition hangovers long enuff to put their (drink) enabler back in office — It wasn’t over until we started arming GB and then getting into WW2 ourselves — at least the state department and WH were not (sufficiently) infiltrated then by nazi’s — just the beginnings of the marxist infiltration.

The REAL Depression is just starting — the massive business shutdowns / slowdowns – mega layoffs massive new and higher taxes — even lower property values — probably massive inflation that the SOB’s will not be able to mask over for another 4 years — all will start occurring within the next few months — but the sheeple will keep drinking the kool-aide flowing from the donkey’s rear end — and fighting over the lumps – convinced they are fighting over ice

I remember just a few days back hearing a guy from the family that started and has owned / runs White Castle restaurants since – I believe 1927 — they are worse off now than at any time DURING the 1930’s — and that if the moo-slime marxist got re-elected — they were seriously considering a large close down >> keep a watch for it folks — along with all the announcements – and whining and crybabying – of higher payroll taxes – NO more hiring, numerous layoffs, business closings, no more employer paid medical insurance (except for gubmint and the correct union employees), denied health care — but ya better be paid up — death panels coming for you and / or a friend or loved one, etc etc etc. I bet all the medical schools around the cali-fate (and the rest of the world) are churning out satans little physicians so obie can import them to replace all the current US doctors that are bailing out — think I am stretching — you fools — Britain’s med system is ruined by them — and do not forget the medical docs that attacked the Glasgow airport — moo-slimes all between the ages of 18 and 40 — oh that just happened to be “medical doctors” — is that anything like moo-slime airline pilot’s — hmmm

Price of oil up yesterday by 3 bucks — just a start folks get ready – fill your tanks within the next few days

Looking like the choice is down to learning Chinese or Arabic — I vote Chinese — maybe I will be able to get a real estate license and help sell off the west coast — as the property values continue to decline — hey it will be a buyers market on steroids —

Face it folks — we have been thoroughly rolled

That is all folks – really — happy days are here again — it really was all Boosch’s fault — still is.

Bees:
Shut up already. You are a sore loser…oh wait….you didn’t vote and you aren’t American so your opinion means nothing. Obama won and not because of some crazy conspiracy. So just shut up.

@Smorgasbord: Too late 2012 was the last chance — good f’ing luck!

I, and others here, have been saying for months that Romney’s biggest hurdle was his own party and the effect it’s had upon his campaign and his articulation of his positions. Here is a very well done analysis to that point. Food for thought:

Why Mitt Lost
He couldn’t separate himself from the Republican Party’s growing extremism.

But even a clumsy candidate might have beaten Obama if not for a simple factor that could not be overcome: the GOP’s growing extremism. The Republican strategy of making the election a referendum on the president’s handling of the economy was perfectly sound. The problem was that the Republican Party couldn’t pass the credibility test itself. For many voters disenchanted with Obama, it still was not safe to vote for his opponent.

This failure began with the spectacle of the extended primary season, which was dominated by candidates with views far outside the political mainstream. Rick Santorum rejected the separation of church and state. Newt Gingrich challenged the notion of judicial supremacy. Michele Bachmann claimed the government had been infiltrated by radical Muslims. Donald Trump refused to recognize the validity of Obama’s birth certificate. Rick Perry wanted to take down more parts of the federal government than he could successfully name. In the debates, the country saw the GOP talking to itself and sounding like a bizarre fringe party, not a responsible governing one.

Romney is not a right-wing extremist. To win the nomination, though, he had to feign being one, recasting himself as “severely conservative” and eschewing the reasonableness that made him a successful, moderate governor of the country’s most liberal state. He had to pass muster with his party’s right-wing base on taxes, immigration, climate change, abortion, and gay rights. Many of his statements on these issues were patently insincere, but that was hardly reassuring. Romney’s very insincerity and flexibility made it improbable that he would stand up to the GOP’s hyper-partisan congressional wing once elected any more than he had during the primaries.

Romney’s pandering to the base made it possible for the Obama campaign to portray him as a right-wing radical from the start of the campaign. Fear that he didn’t have the base locked down kept Romney from moving smoothly to the center once he had secured the nomination. It further encouraged his choice of Paul Ryan, a popular figure with the Tea Party. And when Romney tried, much too late, to move closer to the center, Republican Senate candidates, like Todd Akin in Missouri and Richard Mourdock in Indiana, kept popping up with disgusting reminders of the GOP’s retrograde views on gender issues. For women, Latinos, and young voters tempted to abandon Obama, the old Romney might have been a plausible alternative. The new Romney, fettered by a feverish GOP, was too risky a choice. According to exit poll results, Romney won men as expected, but lost among women by 11 points—too large a gender gap to be overcome.

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