Isn't it convenient that some CIA “informants” have come forth, five days before the election, for nearly identical stories by The WaPo and the NYT's regarding the Benghazi coverup?
So what’s going on here? The national-security staff in the Obama White House has a standard operating procedure. If a military action, such as killing bin Laden, succeeds, then immediately leak selected details to shape the narrative to the political advantage of Mr. Obama. If the action is botched, as in Benghazi, then say nothing and tell the quiescent press that there is no story worth pursuing. If questions persist, the second line of defense is an investigation that wlll drag on for months. For instance, bureaucrats in the Justice Department are still investigating the leaks last spring about the U.S. cooperation with Israel in the software sabotage — cyber warfare — of Iranian centrifuges.
If pesky Fox News persists in asking questions, then the third line of defense is to give the nod to the CIA to leak a diversionary story to favored news outlets and reporters. Thus the leaks to the Washington Post and New York Times showing that CIA operatives did try to rescue their comrades. Then authorize the CIA to go public with the same timeline, further throwing the press off the trail. The New York Times, the recipient of record for White House leaks, published on November 3 a diversionary story on its front page, fixating upon the CIA director, General Petraeus. This implied that the main issue about Benghazi centered around CIA secrecy — a tautology irrelevant to the real cover-up.how to get an annulmentquote>
They told completely blatant lies for a week after the attack and the MSM eat it up. When that story began to fall apart the MSM yawned. When it was proven to be a lie, they yawned. With each passing day new information has come out that proves that not only was this Administration, at the least, incompetent, but that they were also engaged in coverup of their failures. And still they yawned.
But NOW…a few days before the election two of the major newsmakers…er “newspapers”…have front page stories with anonymous informants backing Obama up. (Of course those calling for the Fox News anonymous informants to be outed will surely do the same for these informants correct?)
My, how convenient.
The intent is to cause the press and the public to lose interest in a story that seems exhaustively repetitive, while the key issues are never addressed:
1. Why did the State Department ignore repeated warnings that security at Benghazi was deficient?
2. Did operations centers in Washington receive or monitor requests for help during the attack on 9/11/12?
3. Did the president direct the military to use all means to save American lives?
4. If authorized to enter Libyan territory, why did the military not send a fighter aircraft overhead to frighten what the White House claimed was a mob? Why did the military not send an ad hoc rescue force from Sigonella Navy Base, while the CIA was sending six men as the rescue force from Tripoli, about equal distance from Benghazi? Is the U.S. military too rigid to do anything helpful during a seven-hour battle?
5. Why did the White House persist for weeks in spinning a false story about a mob enraged by a YouTube video, when no intelligence supported the story? Who gave our ambassador to the U.N. her “talking points” that emphasized the video? Our intelligence community says it did not come from intelligence agencies.
Simple questions but don't expect any answers until Nov 7th.
Btw…Security officials on the ground in Libya are disputing the CIA's account.
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“Security officials on the ground in Libya”—once again, according to FOX News.
Why should anyone believe anything that FOX News attributes to an anonymous source, when the information is being directly contradicted by both common sense and named official sources?
First you answer questions 1-5 based on what those named officials sources have said (accounting for all the gyrations and contradictions in their claims) and then we can talk about whether Fox News’ anonymous sources have credibility by comparison.
Obama said that he IMMEDIATELY ordered our personnel in harm’s way to be protected. If that is so, then who do all these official sources say disobeyed the order of the POTUS? Who in the military disobeyed Obama’s orders? Who in the CIA disobeyed his orders? Who in the State Department disobeyed his orders?
From Stephen Hayes’ article, “The Mysteries of Benghazi” in The Weekly Standard:
“Yet when CIA director David Petraeus briefed members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on September 14, he suggested that the attack was triggered by a YouTube video. ”
I think this is the first time I’ve heard about this briefing. I assume this is what Obama, Clinton, Carney and Rice would say was their “intelligence source”.
Geraldo Rivera to FOX colleague, Eric Bolling, Friday:
Speaking to Rivera, Bolling alleged that the fighting at the compound lasted seven hours and that the United States sent “no help.”
“That is an obscene lie,” Rivera charged. “You are a politician looking to make a political point.”
At least there’s somebody left on FOX with a bit of journalistic integrity.
@Greg: Yep somebody is LEFT on Fox, that’s the difference between the MSM and FOX. It’s called fair and balanced, something you know nothing about!!
@Greg:
Journalistic integrity? Well, I’m sure that Gerald Rivera has been accused of many things, Greggie, but journalist integrity is not one of them.
And of course, while you run from anything that disputes your take on Benghazi, you continue to spout about “anonymous” sources that you don’t trust. Tell us, Greggie, who was Deep Throat? Did Woodward or Bernstein ever reveal their anonymous source that took down a sitting president? If we use your benchmark, we need to re-instate Richard Nixon and list him in the history books as being taken down unfairly because of all the anonymous sources used by Woodward and Bernstein in their reporting on Watergate.
Funny how lunatic leftwingers never object to anonymous sources as long as those sources are basing Republicans.
Geraldo Rivera is a registered republican. The rest of FOX has gone so far to the right that they think Rivera is some sort of leftist. They’ve gone so far to the right they’ve entered the territory known as crazy. They can no longer tell truth from conspiracy theory.
Apparently some people feel quite comfortable with that.
@Greg:
And while people are suffering, Gerald Rivera, the man you place so much stock in, tweeted today that after working for three days he was going to look for a generator for his koi pond.
Perhaps he would be better served to take that generator his fellow New Jerseyians that are suffering instead of worrying about a bunch of damn fish.
@Greg: Oh yes, Rivera has a history of leftist journalistic integrity! LOLROTF!!! Checkout his past dumbo.
Gerry Rivers is a registered nitwit. The MSM lost their way before the Clinton cigar humidor cover-up.
It is amazing that supposedly two independent secret cia sources managed to tell an Obama-favoring ”narrative,” while skipping over all of these vital points:
Seems these would be a starting point for a REAL source.
Obama is playing his buddies in media.
They won’t even mind if his re-election requires a few of their heads’ to roll over journalistic malfeasance.
I noticed Iran is in the sack for Obama to the extent it can be…
November Surprise!…
They stopped their centerfuges!
Obama has weird friends ….for an American leader.
@Greg:
Geraldo has stated numerous time on FOX that he is a “fiscal conservative” but he is politically a “liberal”. Of course you would have to watch FOX interviews with him by Bill O’Reilly to know that.
I doubt we’ll get any answers until after R&R get in office and whoever there DOJ is starts digging. BTW anyone heard who R’s choices are yet?
Greg, in my humble opinion #3. Did the president direct the military to use all means to save American lives?, is the key question.
Before we can get any type of honest investigation we need to ask ourselves if we had a widespread mutiny in our armed forces? If potus gave the direct order to save the lives of these people as he said he did, they would be alive today.
This would have been the biggest story in the history of our country, that the military disregarded a direct order from the cic. I’m not buying that scenario, this makes the cic’s story a little suspect. With all the military assets in the area a rescue would have have been very quick, but you are spinning this as mutiny by the army, navy and the CIA? Hmmmm…
@Noovuss, #14:
I believe the problem that FOX’s irresponsible reporting has given rise to is noted in the final paragraphs of the Washington Post Op Ed piece that appeared last Friday:
Things in the real world do not work as they do in a Hollywood movie.
Noovuss
yes, it’s hard to believe the MILITARY WOULD REFUSE AN ORDER FROM OBAMA,
I keep expanding my own explanation, and now another thought came,
it tell me that ; the fact that OBAMA REFUSE THE SEALS TO GO HELP STEVEN,
this alone is very incriminating for him, AND THE WORD OBAMA SAID,
REVENGE, IS TELLING THAT HE IS VINDICTIVE,
and if STEVEN , after begging for help and was refuse, said to OBAMA if that’s
what you want, I WILL GET YOUR ASS, AS SOON AS I GET BACK IN AMERICA AND TELL THE MEDIAS ABOUT YOU BEING IN BED WITH THE MUSLIMS WHILE WE ARE HERE ALONE WITHOUT SUPPORT,
so OBAMA told the SEALS TO STAND DOWN,
THEY DISOBEY SCREWING OBAMA ROYALY, BUT COULD NOT LET THE AMBASSADOR TO HIMSELF
AND THEY DIE AFTER ASKING FOR HELP ALSO,
@Greg:
CIA Timeline Confirms: Woods and Doherty Killed in Benghazi 7Hrs After WH Told of Attack; Commercial Airliner Can Fly From London to Libya and Back in That Time.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cia-timeline-confirms-woods-and-doherty-killed-benghazi-7hrs-after-wh-told-attack
Yes we have that capability to kill the mortar, and disrupt any attack on those men. Hell, in the time we are talking about here, we could have flown our quick reaction force via first class commercial air and had them on the street outside the complex with time to spare.
But it will all come out sometime after Tuesday under oath and in front of the publics curious eyes. I’m sure we will get to the bottom of Obama’s three commands that he said he gave to save the lives of these men. All orders have extensive paper trails and they will be followed to hang the mutinous traders that refused to follow the CIC’s orders. Because that is what it basically boils down to, opinion pieces aside.
Noovuss
good links thank’s the mutiness trader would be OBAMA LIES, AND PANETTA?
BYE
@Noovuss:
It sure sounds like a few good men. Mr. Obama, did you give the Code Red? answer, No. I was busy watching a series of videos and trying to find someone else to blame.
@Greg:
You are an imbecile. You still haven’t answered one question. You deflect like your boy Obie. I hope your time comes up and the military says, screw him. Leave him there to fend for himself. You wouldn’t last a minute in any hostile(or even grade school playground) situation. The real question that still lingers: How often did you get beat up as a kid? My guess is “often”. Hide with the Libs and you won’t have to worry about that now. they are all scared of each other and it has created a “standoff”.
I know The Dude, and you’re not him. You’re The Dud.
@Greg:
Scary little boy. I’ll change my shorts. lol.
Meanwhile you can apologize for Bathhouse Barry and maybe, just maybe, get invited to the Down Low
Going Away Party. No Gagging! Tough guy.
The dude
hi, yes it must be it, you put your finger on GREG’S PROBLEMS
and you know he look like he want revenge like OBAMA SAID TO HIS CROWD,
THEY BOTH COULD NOT JOIN OTHER AT SCHOOL AGE,
they thought of themselves superior and where beat up
because they where hateful, and time went by and they both want revenge
they kept it in their brain like a tumor, each now does their thing for revenge,
GREG come here to pestify CONSERVATIVES AND COVER OBAMA WHICH TELL HIS CROWD
UNAWARE OF HIS INTENT THEY ARE YOUNG AND WANT SO MUCH TO BELIEVE WORDS
SHOUT AT THEM LIKE A ANTI WISDOM TALKER, WHO KEPT REVENGE ALL THESE YEARS
AND WANT TO APPLY TO AMERICANS, SHAME ON YOU GREG AND SHAME ON OBAMA FOR INCITING THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH FALSE PROMISES AND HATE WORDS
Maybe someone here can answer a few questions for me about the Benghazi terrorist attack. One, what was the terrorists’ mission? On 9/11/01 they wanted to destroy the World Trade Center. What did they want to do at the Consulate?
After several hours of attack, apparently no one was killed by them. It wasn’t until the Seals showed up and fought back that the terrorists mortared the annex. There were about 30 people at the consulate and I haven’t heard that even one was killed or wounded. What kind of fire fight was that?
I also heard that the Ambassador was killed by smoke while he was in the safe room. Why didn’t he try to escape with the other 30? Finally, why were the terrorists surrounding the hospital were the Ambassador was taken especially if he was dead? If he was still alive, were they protecting him? Why? And why didn’t they kill him themselves?
I think these questions are as important as the timeline.
@Peter Callaro:
I agree with everything you said. If there was a firefight, where are the Action Reports? Obama/Hillary would have to have them. Apparently, other people died including the scum who attacked the compound. Where are the bodies, reports, etc..? If Stevens died of smoke inhalation in the safe room, how was he raped by those peace loving Muslems? No one will ever know what happened until Hillary/Obie fess up. That ain’t gonna happen.
PETER Callaro
HI,
YES CONFUSING , I didn’t know there was other dead and some other injured,
it was said just a couple of days ago, now about the AMBASSADOR STEVEN HE WAS not DEAD WHEN THE TWO SEALS ARRIVED AND THE AMBASSADOR WAS AT ONE PLACE IN FIRE CHOKING HIDDEN IN A SMALL PLACE, THE SEALS COULD NOT FIND HIM THERE, THEY went at the annext some where else but close,
they send mails asking for help and they start to be attack and fought back for hours,
until they where killed,
a while after some other arrived from TRIPOLI 400 MILLES AWAY, THEY LOOK FOR STEVEN COULD NOT FIND HIM, HE HAD BEEN DRAGGED AT THE HOSPITAL BY A GROUP OF MUSLIM FRIENDS
HE WAS ALIVE BUT HE DIED FROM SMOKE later, BUT THERE WAS ALSO BLOOD ON HIM ON THE WALL AND A MARK ON THE OTHER WALL MADE BY A BLOODY HAND OF 4 LINES DESCRIBING PART OF THE OBAMA LOGO ON HIS FLAG HE CHOOSE HIMSELF AFTER HE WAS INAUGURATE,
SO TO CONTINUE, the other who came from TRIPOLI, PUT THE 30 OTHER STAF DEAD AND ALIVE ONTHEIR CAR OR SUV , AND FOUND THE SEALS DEAD THEY PUT THEM IN THE CAR,
AND ASK ABOUT STEVEN, AND WHERE TOLD HE WAS AT THE HOSPITAL WHICH WAS FULL OF ALQUAEDA OUTSIDE AT THAT TIME, SO THE GUYS WENT TO GET STEVEN WHICH WAS DEAD,
AND THEY WENT BACK BRINGING STEVEN ALSO INTHEIR CAR OR SUV OR MORE THAN ONE CAR,,
THEY WENT AT THE AIRPORT WHERE THEY LEFT THEIR PLANE, AND CAME BACK TO AMERICA .
I put it as I thought the way I understood, but don’t take me litteraly there as the time and movement
bye
The dude
STEVEN DID NOT DIE AT THE COMPOUND HE WAS FOUND BY THE SEMINGLY MUSLIM FRIEND AND,
DRAGGED OUTSIDE, NOW IT WAS SAID HE WAS RAPE, I DID NOT MENTION IT ABOVE,
BUT IT EXPLAIN THE BLOOD OVER THE BED ON THE WALL AND HIS HAND BLOODY
SCRATCHING THE 4 LINES ON THE OTHER WALL RESEMBLING THE OBAMA LOGO , AS HE WAS BEING DRAGGED OUT IN THE FRIENDLY GROUP AND IN THE
HOSPITAL where he died there, THOSE LINES WHEN I saw it made me think
STEVEN WAS GIVING A CLUE OR A MESSAGE,
@ilovebeeswarzone: my question is why others didn’t die or get wounded? Were the terroists shooting blanks? Were they trying to get Stevens alive? Why?
@The dude: Did you hear reports that more than the four Americans died? I haven’t and I’ve watched the story very closely.
@Peter Callaro:
We won’t know until after the election. There were several firefights. No After Action reports????
Fire fights between compound and hospital. What happened? No reports. Libya intervention but no reports from them. One would suspect a 7 hr. firefight with Mortars, etc… would have caused damage. Where are these reports? Mr. Transparency isn’t even answering the American People. Maybe Obama thinks everyone is stupid.
A non answer is confirmation that something happened and the CoverUp is “big”. Meanwhile all we hear about is surviving global warming and a woman’s right to have an Abortion in 2020. Who cares.
@Peter Callaro:
I don’t know if they were Americans but others died. Some of the attackers had to be killed or injured. Libya had some of their own go down. That is all being hushed up. Not very specific but articles directly after 9/11 were saying others were killed and injured. They also said Stevens was sodamized before he was killed. I think the entire BS about him dying in a Safe Room is totally BS. Early reports showed blood prints from Stevens. Now Obama/Hillary have scrubbed everything.
After the election, someone will get more information. Stevens was the pointman in the Weapons Running by Team Obama. That is what they are trying to hide. This was all scrubbed and blamed on a video to CYA.
Peter Callaro
yes other died and also other where wounded, THEY WHERE AMONG THE 30 AMERICANS STAFF
I only heard it last week on FOX,
they where among the staff in another compound,
FOX BRING US THE BITS OF NEWS AS SOON AS THEY GET IT,
and you are right to say there must be some LIBYANS DEAD
shot by the SEALS, they must have been picked up by their own
and I did not mention it but STEVEN must have shot some also
when they try to open the steel door it was said they where met by a man inside with a gun so they pour gaz all around and light it, and they got in from another opening,
they where many all over the place, and there was libyan guard suppose to protect the AMBASSADOR, THEY FREAK UP AND JOIN THE ALQUAEDA, THAT WAS OBAMA TRUSTED LIBYA HIRED TO PROTECT
THEY WHERE NOT PROTECTING AND OBAMA TRUSTED THEM AND DENIED AMERICAN THE PROTECTION FROM AMERICAN INSTEAD, HE BELIEVE MUSLIM
AND THE AMERICAN DIE,
WHAT A FREAKING STORY TO MAKE AMERICA’S BLOOD BOIL WITH ANGER,
AND SOME HAVE THE MADNESS TO VOTE FOR HIM,
I can understand IVAN SO ANGRY ANSWER about the NY disaster, one reporter said it look like the sea giant waves
crushing ashore are angry,
he was right on the dot, if we relate it with the BENCHASI MASSACRE, WHO KNOW?
AFTER ALL THERE IS A GOD OF MERCY AND OF REVENGE ALSO
WHO CAN DENY IT,
maybe that OBAMA ASK TO VOTE FOR REVENGE,
DOES HE WANT REVENGE AGAINST THE MIGHTY GOD ?
@ilovebeeswarzone: You can bet your bippy (That dates me!) that if SEALs were shooting, there were wounded and bodies!
RANDY
yes sir
@Randy:
You are “spot on”. No way a 7 hr. firefight takes place and no one is hurt. Our two SEALS(yes they are OURS) went in to help. They would have put up a hell of a fight. IMHO , the reason we can’t know who was injured or hurt is these people were not supposed to be there. The names will link them with the weapons/groups. BO is a Coward and a Traitor, simply for Covering up.
A video is the weakest excuse they could have brought out. It didn’t make sense then and it surely doesn’t make sense now. BO & Co. are simply “running out the clock”. If they win the entire matter gets covered up. If they lose, all records will disappear before anyone can conduct an investigation. Just like Fast & Furious.