The Butcher Of Benghazi Wants To Keep The Choppers and Jets

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Watching men die, while locked in a state of indecision or having dubious motives that prevent you from sending in available assets that could have saved these men, is one of the most heinous acts of cowardice and malfeasance ever perpetrated by a sitting American President. For seven hours, the Obama Administration sat by and watched brave Americans fight for their very lives, but if the administration had its way, the death toll would be thirty instead of four. Adding to our disgrace is the fact that within 500 miles, there were several sources of help that could have changed the situation and saved some, if not all the Americans who were killed.

The morning after this tragedy, a glorious celebration of blood and death for al-Qaeda, our president lied to the American people and the relatives of the fallen. He blamed an obscure video no one had ever seen or knew existed as if the blame was to be shared by all Americans and our love of freedom, for reasons that are becoming more dubious and circumspect as facts continue to materialize, despite the efforts of the administration, the state directed media, and our cowardly Republican legislators to cover-up the president's pathetic response to this atrocity. There is still an ongoing effort to cover for him and keep the public from knowing the truth before the election.

Our president’s impotence, dithering, and fear have become America’s image as a nation of cowards throughout the Muslim World and the Muslim Fanatic realizes they have little to fear from Obama’s America for transgressions against Americans or American interests.

We have for the first time in our history an American Idol type president. The perfect patsy for those who wish to harm America, they know our president’s first reaction to a tragedy exemplified by the loss of an ambassador by terrorists is to fly to Vegas for parties with celebrities before the bodies have cooled. This may be heartwarming to the people who watch American Idol, but for most who have sworn an oath of allegiance to this gr

eat country, it is an assault to our dignity and pride.

President Obama, through a concentrated effort, has managed to make a bad economy much worse and has weakened our stance in the community of nations with his dubious sympathies with the Muslim World and the Muslim Brotherhood. He has neglected the United States and its once dynamic economy; an economy built upon the tenets of free enterprise and free markets to replace it with this Statist philosophy:

“If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It's just that it will bankrupt them.”

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

Steven Chu, Obama’s Energy Secretary has said it will be one of his goals to get gasoline to the price levels of Europe, $9.00/gallon.

Now, a few days before the election, the devastation of using academics with no real-world experience or business savvy to run the most powerful economy in the world has become all too obvious to even our least literate citizens who are not Socialists, our president has suddenly had an epiphany; maybe oil production, pipelines, and renegotiating the 50% decrease in oil leases on public lands his administration brought about, might be a good idea for the economy, but are we to trust him, those Americans killed in Benghazi might have some advice for you on this idea of trusting Obama.

Many of us recognized the symptoms of a malignant narcissist soon after Obama assumed the office of president; with all the bluff and bravado so typical of the narcissist, he boasted of being able to fix the economy in four years, he failed and the rest of us have suffered. Remarkably, Obama is aware of his failure; however, the jets, the helicopters, the big house, the big parties with the celebrities are too much to give up just because he has been an abject failure.

He needs four more years; not because he can do anything practical to help the economy or any one group of Americans, he just likes the life of being The President. It’s a perfect job for a malignant narcissist; especially now, that we know he is absolutely incapable of doing anything useful.

On Tuesday, you can continue to function in the sometimes lethal fantasies of Obama or you can chart a new course for America, the course that once allowed us to be prosperous and safe.

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I am so disgusted by this President and those who are ignorant enough to support him, I am without words. He has violated everything that we as Americans value. He has been willing to destroy a way of life for personal ideology and gain. He has lied to everyone. He has sacrificed those who swore to defend the US Government and the Constitution. I regretted the day my son left the military but now am very glad. He like everyone in government service is available to be sacrificed upon the altar.

@Randy: Skook:
I guess you used all your bullets on this story the other day; and now must resort to pure propaganda to try keeping this story alive.

@Liberal1 (Objectivity):

Cleanup on Aisle 78

Don’t be a dump-n-run coward.

Lib, like a new belt for an M60, after opening one of several boxes, bullets are not the problem; keeping the barrels cool and not letting them warp from the extreme heat is the problem.

Seems odd that, despite Liberal Talking Points, the old meme of ”it’s all the fault of a video that insults Islam,” is nowhere to be found anymore.
In fact, search news sources for “Nakoula Basseley Nakoula,” and your most RECENT citations will be from October 11th!
Only one English-language news outlet even mentions him in the last 24 hours and it is from Europe!

Considering how Liberals complain that this is all a ”right-wing conspiracy” I’d say the Obama Administration is following from behind pretty closely.
Obama hasn’t sent out one proxy to talk about Nakoula Basseley Nakoula or his film in weeks.
Obama has dropped his line from his stump speech about ”al Qaeda being on the run.”
Obama had emphasized how Benghazi would be dealt with by the FBI.
But now we learn they spent a scant 15 minutes on site weeks after the attack and left classified documents all over the place when they left!
We learn Obama was in the Situation Room but never tasked the top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group to aid in how to help our people.
Now even the mainstream media is noticing that Obama is simply STALLING until after the election.
CBS, ABC
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57544026/sources-key-task-force-not-convened-during-benghazi-consulate-attack/?tag=socsh
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/the-benghazi-drip-drip-drip/
It has been 7 weeks and STILL Obama doesn’t know what happened?
Inconceivable!

But, look at Obama’s response from the point of view of Islam’s Sharia.
It was pitch-perfect!
When non-Muslims are terrorized the expected response is for the victim to do nothing but comply with further restrictions.
Obama went before the U.N. and tried to throw away our 1st Amendment right of free expression.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11-02/cia-describes-effort-to-rescue-americans-in-libya-attack

Contradicting other reports and allegations, the official said everyone from the senior officers in Libya to the top officials in Washington were fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help they could.

Responding to accusations aired on Fox News and picked up elsewhere that officials in Washington had refused to approve military strikes or rescue efforts, the official said no one in the White House, the State Department, the Pentagon, the CIA or any other organization second-guessed decisions made in Benghazi, and there were no orders to anyone providing support to stand down.

The Pentagon “took swift action,” spokesman George Little told reporters today. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered the deployment of forces, including two Marine Corps Fleet Antiterrorism Security Teams, a special operations unit based in Central Europe and and U.S.-based contingent of troops, Little said.
‘Takes Time’

“It takes time for troops to be organized, to be transported, to understand what they may be called upon to do,” Little said at the Pentagon, adding, “They simply were not able to arrive in time.”

Officials in Washington monitored the events in Benghazi from message traffic and video shot by an unarmed aerial drone that was diverted from another mission elsewhere in Libya and arrived over the compound at 11:11 p.m., the intelligence official said.

By 11:30 p.m., all U.S. personnel except for Stevens, who was missing, left the mission under fire for the annex about 1.2 miles (2 kilometers) away, the official said.

Comment: I’m waiting for the statement, from any source, which says that the relevant CIA or military authorities recommended any type of specific rescue mission to Obama and he “dithered” about it or, worse, made the command decision to stand down. From all we know, Obama was appropriately following the advice of these security authorities on what to do and when to do it. He lacks the personal experience and competence to personally design rescue missions. He has to rely on the advice of people like Petraeus and the joint chiefs.

It may end up that someone “dithered” or it may end up that they made a prudent decision to do what was described in the above-linked CIA briefing. But there’s absolutely no evidence which has been offered to date that the inadequacy of the response was the fault or responsibility of the alleged Ditherer-in-Chief.

That’s what the “investigation” is all about. But, of course, with all the nail biting associated with a tight election, I fully expect both sides to exploit everything possible to attack the opposing candidate. Just don’t confuse politics with political jurisprudence.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

Larry, I must leave for a party, but I expect others will engage your defense of the indefensible. I will return later tonight.

May I say, there are units(Marine FAST units) that are trained for quick deployment, specifically for this type of emergency and several aircraft, with the accuracy needed and provided by our CIA spotter (an action that is only taken when a plane is ready to fire, otherwise it is suicide) for this type of emergency, were in the Med. if not on site. The fact that we had the capability and did nothing is a surprising situation, especially when we had the assets to respond. Dithering or being frozen in indecision is not a trait of either our military or our CIA.

Hi Skook, It may well be that someone “dithered” or otherwise screwed up in not reacting with sufficient resources in an effective period of time. But the point is this: Barack Obama is not an expert in hot lead rescue missions. He has to rely on the advice of intelligence and military experts. Did the appropriate security authorities recommend a course of action and he wasted time dithering about it, until it was too late? Did they recommend a course of action and he ordered them to stand down? Or did the bad decision/dithering come from the security authorities themselves? Can you direct me to some source that can provide this information?

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:
Matt Bracken, an ex-Navy SEAL officer writes:

The Benghazi debacle boils down to a single key factor — the granting or withholding of “cross-border authority.”
This opinion is informed by my experience as a Navy SEAL officer who took a NavSpecWar Detachment to Beirut.

Once the alarm is sent – in this case, from the consulate in Benghazi — dozens of HQs are notified and are in the planning loop in real time, including AFRICOM and EURCOM, both located in Germany.
Without waiting for specific orders from Washington, they begin planning and executing rescue operations, including moving personnel, ships, and aircraft forward toward the location of the crisis.
However, there is one thing they can’t do without explicit orders from the president: cross an international border on a hostile mission.

That is the clear “red line” in this type of a crisis situation.

No administration wants to stumble into a war because a jet jockey in hot pursuit (or a mixed-up SEAL squad in a rubber boat) strays into hostile territory. Because of this, only the president can give the order for our military to cross a nation’s border without that nation’s permission. For the Osama bin Laden mission, President Obama granted CBA for our forces to enter Pakistani airspace.
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http://pjmedia.com/blog/benghazis-smoking-gun-only-president-can-give-%E2%80%98cross-border-authority%E2%80%99/

If anyone remembers Larry’s military strategy from our discussions of Iraq and Afghanistan, we would have no military stationed overseas.

Hi Nan, Yes, very interesting. Now please direct me to the link where the relevant security authorities made the decision that a specific relief/rescue operation be implemented and recommended a specific plan to Obama and asked him for an order to proceed and grant the necessary cross border authority, only to have Obama “dither” until it was too late or else for Obama to have given them orders to stand down.

It is very easy to say, in retrospect, what should and what should not have been done. I’m waiting for the evidence that recommendations were given by the appropriate security authorities for a specific course of action and Obama either delayed until it was too late or else made the command decision to withhold authorization.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

The Incompetent Bum will be out of the White House in January; the Hope is that he will leave some of the furniture while he Changes address.

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

“It may well be that someone “dithered” or otherwise screwed up”? Are you really serious? Four Americans are dead, Larry. DEAD And you think there “may well be” someone who screwed up? My God, man, what do you have to have happen to you before you realize that Obama SCREWED up.

Now, you are taking the POV that Obama is not an expert in hot lead rescues. What president was since George Herbert Walker Bush was in office? Certainly not Clinton or Bush, Jr. And yes, Obama, as with all presidents, rely on the advise of those closest to him, but in the end, it is the President, not the Secretary of State, not the Secretary of Defense, no the Director of the CIA that makes that call. Commander In Chief. Think about those words and what they mean.

There are QRFs that train specifically for such events as Benghazi. Since the disaster that was Jimmy Carter, and his failed attempts to rescue the Iran hostages, our military has redesigned its tactics for hostile rescues. We have planes that will shatter window glass when they simply fly over a hot spot and discombobulate the enemy during an attack such as Benghazi. We have AC130Us that can put a bomb in the eye of a camel and never distrube the tail. We have troops that are trained to drop in behind a hot zone and totally wipe out the enemy. None of those assets were used.

But still, you can find excuses for the man who is the least qualified man ever elected to hold the most powerful office in the world. And you wonder why I lump you in with Greg and Lib1. Guess you are not as smart as you want us to believe.

And remember this: there were forces that came from Tripoli, once the diplomatic mission, and the CIA annex, were under attack. Tripoli is not that much closer to Benghazi than Sigonella, Sciliy where we have a major NAS. What was the difference between sending limited resources from Tripoli and massive resources from Sigonella? As was pointed out: a sovereign border.

Hi Retire,

So you want the President of the United States to design and order hot lead emergency rescue missions. You either don’t think it is the responsibility for actual security (military and intelligence) experts to design and recommend these to the President. Either that, or else you have information to confirm that a specific plan was recommended to the President and he “dithered” or gave the order to stand down.

I don’t think that you have any information whatsoever which can shed any useful light on any of this. If I am wrong, please provide this information and sources to confirm this information.

We know that the President was first informed at 11 o’clock and, by 11:30, the ambassador was missing and probably dead. We don’t know what was known at the time concerning the number of enemy in the vicinity, the whereabouts of the enemy in the vicinity, the weapons and ordnance possessed by the enemy. We don’t know what Petraeus and the CIA recommended to Obama. We don’t know what Panetta and the generals recommended to Obama. We don’t know how long it took Obama to decide and we don’t know what he decided.

You apparently believe that Obama was given a specific recommendation to deploy and he either dithered or ordered the rescue missions to stand down. I don’t believe this. You don’t know and I don’t know; so we can both assert whatever we darn well please. I assert that we don’t know but that we will know some day and then we can see who has earned the right to say I told you so.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

@openid.aol.com/runnswim: Larry, the military always has a plan and people standing by. They gather the daily intel and war game every type of situation. You can bet your whole state (for what it is worth) that the only issue was crossing country lines and it took the President to authorize that. He didn’t and people died! Fix that with your rhetoric Larry!

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

“We know that the president was first informed at 11:00 o’clock.” Really, Larry? Was that a.m. or p.m.? Where do you get your information? From the bottom of a petri dish?

The attack on Benghazi started at 9:40 p.m., local time or 3:40 p.m. Washington, D.C. time. We also know that emails were sent to all concerning parties, including the White House Situation Room. At that point, an email of such urgency received in the Situation Room would have been hand delievered either to Obama’s military aide or to someone who was in very close proximity to the POTUS. It is SOP to notify the POTUS of such an event immediately. If that wasn’t done, then we have a total breakdown of protocol at the White House and gives us just one more reason that Obama needs to be replaced and booted back to Chicago.

And you are trying to tell me that Obama either knew about the attack 4 1/2 hours before, or not until 7 1/2 hours after it started when Christopher Stevens, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith and Ty Woods were already dead? How do you justify that opinion?

By 11:00 p.m. DC time, the attack was over, Ambassador Stevens had been identified at the Benghazi hospital and the Oval Office knew he was dead as it was then 0500 (5:00 a.m.) Benghazi time.

I know this: no matter who advises what to the Commander in Chief, the decision for action, or non-action, is ultimately up to the President. It is his call, and the responsibility falls squarely on him. And for you to try to make excuses for such inaction that cost the lives of four, dedicated patriotic Americans is simply inexcusable and shows just how low you are willing to sink to try to protect your socialist president.

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:
Exactly why Obama is stonewalling while others around him are leaking for their own protection, Larry.
Read this for a nice overview:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/11/01/benghazi-stand-down-denials-dont-stand-up-to-reason/
Also see this video:

A newly discovered classified State Department cable now appears to point to either massive incompetence or willful negligence within the Obama administration – followed then by the repeated lies to the American public by Obama.

openid.aol.com/runnswim
some proof here, the AFRICAN 4STAR COMMANDER WAS DEMOTED FOR WANTING TO GO HELP,
AND THE COMMANDER OF A SHIP WAS DEMOTED AND RELIEVE OF HIS COMMAND FOR WANTING TO GO AND HELP TO ANSWER THE MANY CALLS FOR HELP,
HOW’S THAT FOR ARROGANCE FROM THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF, NO ONE ELSE COULD DO THAT ORDER BUT OBAMA.

Too many of you coming at me all at once; I’ll reply, when able.

To simply address one question/criticism directed at me:

“We know that the president was first informed at 11:00 o’clock.” Really, Larry? Was that a.m. or p.m.? Where do you get your information? From the bottom of a petri dish?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204712904578090612465153472.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Mr. Obama was informed of the attacks at around 5 p.m.—11 p.m. in Libya—during a previously scheduled meeting with his military advisers, and he ordered military assets moved to the area, according to ABC News.

Stevens, according to the above WSJ article, was dead at 11:20.

By 11:20, they evacuated the consulate. Stevens and Sean Smith, a State employee, were dead.

We’ve now established that Obama didn’t have Ambassador Stevens blood on his hands and he doesn’t have the blood of 4 Americans on his hands. What remains to be established is whether or not he had the blood of the 2 remaining Americans on his hands.

To be continued.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

When Ambassador Stevens, Libyan diplomatic personnel and others tell Congress they asked for MORE SECURITY well before 9-11-12 but were turned down so much so that one described those who turned him down as, “the taliban,” YES, the blood is on Obama’s hands.
Obama was more concerned about not looking offensive to Islamists (who can find offense in a squiggle on the side of a Nike tennis shoe!) than he was about PROTECTING American lives.

Nan G
yes OBAMA has blood on his hands, from before the other two attacks when
he refuse to increase the guards, and we must take into account is that he even had cut the previous guard,
having the other diplomat to plea for not cutting that one but increasing instead,
to my mind OBAMA was depending and giving his trust to the LIBYANS and disregard the words of the AMBASSADOR THEN, which was before hell came,
and later after many other demands from STEVEN and denied, even as the attack was on raging
plus later from the demands from the two SEALS as they where fighting for their lives
injured as they where bleeding which was found on their weapons and fought until their deaths,
and those demands where not met also,
they even where told to abstain from going the protect the AMBASSADOR, why is that?
they went anyway and where killed doing their honorable duty to protect the AMBASSADOR,
WHILE in AMERICA THE PRESIDENT fail them , and is the RESPONSIBLE for anyone under his command, that’s his job
he get pay richly for, he is also responsible for THE MILITARY ROE IN AFGHANISTAN AND IF BECAUSE OF HIS ROE THE TROOPS GET SHOT IN THE BACK AND DIE,
OR ARE CRIPPLE BECAUSE OF HIS ROE, HE IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE, FOR THE GUNS RUNNING also WHICH KILLED AN OFFICER AND ANOTHER LATER at the border,
that RESPONSIBILITY was given to him , when he swear
to the FLAG AND THE CONSTITUTION TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

Well, at least you clarified which and where the 11:00 o’clock was.

Now, we know that in under 45 minutes, an email was copied to all interested parties, including the Situation Room which would have, according to protocol, notified Obama about the Benghazi attack by 4:30 EDT. We can assume that Hillary Clinton, David Petreaus and Leon Panetta were all aware of any resources at the President’s disposal for a QRF effort. We also know that we have sections of our military that constantly train for just such an event.

And yes, we know that Sean Smith was dead by 11:20 p.m. Benghazi time, but it was also reported that Christopher Smith, when taken to the hospital in Benghazi, was still alive after having been drug through the streets of Benghazi by 7th century barbarians. He died, according to the doctors at that Benghazi hospital, who worked on Stevens for 45 minutes, there.

But here is where your argument falls apart: Obama, nor anyone in the White House, knew the status of those four men for hours. So to try to cut Obama some slack because Stevens and Smith were already dead adds to your disgrace. Even if Obama knew they were dead, which he didn’t because he went to bed before that information was available, were the lives of Glen Doherty and Ty Woods not worth saving, or at least making an attempt to save?

I have to wonder what you see in Obama that you would be so quick to defend his failures. The scandals attached to this administration from the New Black Panter case to Fast and Furious to Benghazi would only require ONE of those scandals to derail any other president. Yet, you remain loyal. One can only conclude that your political philosophy is as socialist as Obamas’ or you are just flat out stupid. I don’t think it is the latter. Watergate was bad, and cost a man the Oval Office. No one died during Watergate. It seems that everything Obama touches causes some American to lose their life.

No blood on Obama’s hands? No, Larry, you have not established that, although you will continue to fool yourself into thinking the “no blood” factor has been established.

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

We’ve now established that Obama didn’t have Ambassador Stevens blood on his hands and he doesn’t have the blood of 4 Americans on his hands. What remains to be established is whether or not he had the blood of the 2 remaining Americans on his hands.

Much of that is quite beside the point, no matter which way you believe, Larry. There were many more than just the four Americans who were actually killed, there at the building. Some 30 of them, according to most reports. What did Obama do to ensure that those 30 would remain safe?

You may be discussing this with a number of us here, but it all boils down to whether or not one believes that Obama, and his team, did all that was possible they could have done, to ensure that ALL Americans in Libya were safe. I don’t see how anyone could believe that he did, given the reports I’ve seen. It seems that you are trying your damnedest to carry the water for Obama, though why you are doing so is beyond me, when it seems by all information available that Obama has failed somehow. Whether it’s in not providing security (he chose the SecState, it’s his responsibility), or the two weeks of lies about some stupid movie, or dithering on providing help, any help, to those still in the area, Obama has failed.

johngalt
hi by the way did you see the movie in theater of rand?
BYE

@ilovebeeswarzone:

Not yet, Ms. Bees. Been working too much lately. Someone has to pay for all of the free crap Obama’s supporters demand.

openid.aol.com/runnswim
could it be that you are afraid to lose the research government help if OBAMA lose,
is that why you are trying to sell him?
there sure are many who are afraid to lose what ever they get from government,
and will sell him even he is not qualified, for fear of losing their jobs in government
doing nothing worthy for the PEOPLE,
but no worry for you, because your research is so important
for the people.

johngalt
yes and your tax must be high too.
bye

Ultimately, the president has the responsibility. There is no way to dance around this salient fact. If you surround yourself with incompetent bootlickers, you can’t point to them and say they let me down. This is one of the main factors of being an efficient leader: hiring the best people, not political lackeys and “yes” men.

The international stage is far more critical than the slop shoot system of Chicago Machine politics, four Americans have just paid the price of electing a small time political hack to the most powerful position in the world. The United States must now be on guard to thwart any new such attacks in the interim, since these thugs play rough and will be ready to capitalize on America’s weakness. Obama is America’s weakness.

“If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them.”

“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

You forgot the one where he said he wants a civilian security force as strong as, and equally funded as the military. Has he ever said why he wants a civilian security force that can defeat the military?

” I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.”

For a man who is claiming no military expertise, except for the ability to direct assassination squads in foreign countries without respecting air space, Obama was quite adept with military language with the quote above. Securing personnel, has nothing to do with rescue or saving Americans, it is an indirect reference to “standing down” in military lingo.

Securing a weapon means to unload and clean the weapon and have it ready for future use. This use of military language may assuage the adoring public, but the reality is he is either intimately aware of the obfuscation implied by the phrase or he is once again displaying his ignorance of all things military.

Ignorance has been the calling card of this president. He stated his early years in Indonesia and clandestine trips to Pakistan during adolescence had prepared him with unique skill sets for foreign policy: for example, he is familiar with the two factions of Islam. Thus for Secretary of State, he hired another ignoramus with no experience. Together these two have bumbled forward with the belief, that a superior education would carry them through the dicey situations, with the obvious results of ignorance hidden with false confidence and a lack of experience.

The true nature of this story will be revealed in leaks by the CIA, the State Department, and the military. We know there were messages telling of a massing of al-Qaeda militias near the Benghazi mission a full three hours before the attack. Our response was a message of trust and of innocence of purpose, by being willing to put Americans at risk by displaying bravado by those who were half a world away. The warnings were ignored, no F-18s roared overhead to break windows and scare the crap out of potential terrorists, no Delta, no SEALs, no Rangers, no Marines and no Specters were poised to rain down a wrath of fire and death; no, it was all quiet on the Eastern front. Our leaders were willing too wager American lives on the incompetence of a Community Organizer who has lived as a Muslim and the frumpiness of a former First Lady who has intimate relations with the Muslim Brotherhood. A small unit of SEALs, Marines, or Delta could have obliterated the militia, but our diplomatic corps and America counted on the expertise of our leaders. They failed miserably.

The blood of American heroes have drenched our president and Secretary of State. The potential for disaster was started when Clinton decided not to use Marines at any of the diplomatic missions in Libya and opting out for factions of our al-Qaeda enemies to provide security. The arrogance and incompetence of this administration is blatant, and after a continuous barrage of ever evolving lies, the president’s media service is now suggesting his unfamiliarity and ignorance of our capabilities prevented him from responding in an effective manner. This excuse is no excuse, this is an insult to the American people, meant only to delay the obvious incriminations until after the election.

I must go to work.

Our president explained his foreign policy qualifications:

Ironically, this is an area — foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain.

It’s ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be Commander-in-Chief. Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world. This I know. When Senator Clinton brags “I’ve met leaders from eighty countries” — I know what those trips are like! I’ve been on them….

You do that in eighty countries — you don’t know those eighty countries. So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa–knowing the leaders is not important — what I know is the people….

I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college — I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Impressive, impressive indeed.

SKOOKUM
there is a QUESTION lingering in my mind, which for respect of the AMBASSADOR, i kept, but no one mentioned it, surely they must know the answer,
but, for me it’s only doubt of what I saw,
you saw that hand tracing the straight lines with blood, on the wall?
it was shown a few times, with and without the hand,
could that be the hand of STEVEN ? GIVING THE NAME OF THE GUILTY ONE,
it trace the lines in the OBAMA LOGO, TRACE WITH BLOOD, SOMETIMES AS HE WAS CHOKING FROM THE FIRE SET UP BY THE ATTACKERS, OR AT THE TIME WHEN THEY WHERE DRAGGING HIM OUT
OF THE COMPOUND.

@Skookum: #30
Skook,
Is it possible you are thinking that obama might not be on OUR side?

The one thing that NOBODY is telling to the media is that the “video” had only been viewed 14 times up to Sept 10 2012! With that being the case HOW could the entire muslim world be enraged by it? Hell they couldn’t even have known about it! I call SUPER BS on this one.

langoley
that is a good find, yes for sure, they did not have even access to it I BET,
bye

Smorgasbord: Why do you assume he is on our side?

Do you have links?

SKOOKUM
SOMETHING NICE FOR YOU TO THINK
the OHIO APPOINTED TO THE BALLOT RESPONSIBILITY
WAS AT HUCKABEE JUST NOW AND ADD UP AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION,
HE PREDICT MITT ROMNEY WIN ON A TIGHT MARGIN, IN OHIO,
BYE oh from BARONE; ROMNEY 315 and OBAMA 223
BY THE WAY
THANK YOU FOR THE BIBLE STORY very well done

@Skookum: #36
I assume you meant, “Why do you assume he is NOT on our side?”

ANSWERS
I have supplied links for these before, so I won’t take the time to look them up now.
(1) When he was campaigning for the nomination for the Democratic Party to run for president, he said he wants a civilian security force that was as strong as, and equally funded as the military. If people can’t figure out why he wants a civilian force that can defeat the military, there is no use trying to explain it.

(2) Since his college years, he has been wearing a ring on his wedding finger that says, “There is no god but Allah.” He didn’t replace it with a wedding ring when he was married. That ring means more to him than a wedding ring. He could have moved the ring to another finger, but he wants it on the finger that repents who you give your love to.

(3) HE IS AN ILLEGAL
Fake birth certificate, using someone else’s Social Security number, fake Selective Service registration card.

(4) INFORMATION ABOUT HIM IS BEING DESTROYED OR HIDDEN
(A) One week’s passport information of people going through Laguardia Airport during the time obama’s mother came back from Kenya, shortly after obama was born, are gone. EVERYBODY’S. We can’t look at her passport info to see what it said.
(B) Info about obama has even disappeared from the National Archives. Remember when one of Bill Clinton’s people left with so many archives he even stuffed them in his socks?
(C) After Sheriff Joe Arpaio started investigating our illegal president, Hawaii passed a law that allows them to destroy ALL of the paper birth certificates. They say they have. They are in the process of (or could have already made it a law) passing a law that allows them to destroy the microfiche copies of birth certificates. Why?
(D) We all know how obama is trying to keep ALL of his records sealed so we can’t see them. Why? Why isn’t the media trying to find out more about him?

(5) Different information about him being in a place other than where he said he was at the time he was have been popping up, but the propaganda media doesn’t report it. Fox News doesn’t seem to be interested in the stuff now.

(6) obama has been making our friendly countries mad at us and making countries that were not so friendly to us his friends. He stopped new oil drilling on American land and waters, but is helping other countries that are not so friendly to us increase their oil production.

(7) obama bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia. A person only bows to those who they recognize as having authority over them, or are afraid of that person. No president has ever bowed to anybody since George Washington and millions of patriots made it possible, and are still making it possible, that I don’t have to bow to anybody if I don’t want to. I’m thankful that if there is a try to take over the USA by force, Idaho is very well armed to try to keep that from happening.

(8) obama sees our military as an obsticle to his plan to turn the USA into a socialist or Muslim State. I think he wants it to be Muslim. The smaller he makes our military, the easier it will be for his civilian police force to defeat them. Remember how he wants the wounded warriors to pay for their own medical bills through their own medical insurance?

(9) When obama was running for the presidency, he wouldn’t wear the American flag pin and wouldn’t say the Pledge of Allegiance. Why. What country do those two items show loyalty to? Why didn’t he want us to see and hear him pledge allegiance to the United States of America?

(10) When he was a sentator, there is a photograph of him saluting like the British military does; open hand, facing outward. He didn’t know the proper American military salute. Keep in mind that he spent some of his young childhood in Kenya. At that time, Kenya was a British colony. Is this where he learned the British salute? When he lived in America, was he allowed to watch American war movies, where we won almost every battle?

(11) Remember when he didn’t know how to pronounce “Navy corpsman?” To me, this means he didn’t watch American war movies, or he would have heard the ward, “corpsman” hallered in almost every war movie. When I first SAW the word, I remember wondering why it was pronounced the way is was. I have jokingly asked that if he watched war movies, which side did he root for? I’m not joking when I NOW ask that question. Did he choose not to watch Americn war movies because he didn’t like how they ended?

(12)Remember when obama told the Russian president that he would have more flexibility in his second term? More flexibility to do what? How much flexibility did Ronald Reagan show the Russians? What happened when he didn’t?

For all of the above stuff going on, with many different Federal and state agencies involved, this has to be some big organization or country doing all of this. I have said for some time that I believe that the political parties and the news media have been infiltrated, but I didn’t know by who or what. Glenn Beck said he believes it is the Muslim Brotherhood. So far, I can’t find any reason to doubt him.

Smorgasbord
I find incredible to see the crowd voting for him, mostly young or very old,
and what revenge is he talking about, this word came out of his core,
he is mad, and I fear he is dangerous,

@ilovebeeswarzone: #39
I can see several groups who will vote for obama again:

(1) Federal workers. He has hired many Federal employees who depend on him winning election to keep their jobs, plus the other Federal employees have heard Romney say how he is going to reduce the size of government. This means many others will loose their jobs.
(2) Welfare recipients. Some welfare agencies are actually advertising for people to sign up for welfare. The ones on welfare know they will keep getting their checks if obama gets elected.
(3) Union members. They know they won’t be as strong if Romney gets elected.

I can’t find the info, but one of the democratic officials said that if obama wins, they will get even. Obama wants revenge, and someone else wants to get even. Just how do they intend to get revenge and get even if obama wins? Let’s not give them the chance.

Have you noticed that the Democratic Party gets so hateful towards others who don’t go along with what the democrats want? They actually refer to those oposing them as the “enemy.” I have heard and read many times where they actually used the word “enemy.” I am glad to be an enemy of obama. I wear the lable PROUDLY!

Smorgasbord
and I heard one UNION BOSS calling for their votes,
hope there are not to much dead people on the list or duplicate votes or whatever else fraud,they found the vote from HITLER, hope there are no foreign fraudulent voters also.
bye

Smorgasbord: I didn’t make a typo.

SKOOKUM
HI,
it seems that there are many presidents to vote for.
CLINTON, OBAMA, VALERIE JARRET, WHO ELSE ON THE DEMOCRATS SIDE?
AND ONLY ONE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, so it won’t be hard to choose MITT ROMNEY,
COMPARE TO THE OTHER SIDES.
OBAMA THREATEN AMERICANS WITH REVENGE, CHECK IT UP.
BYE

Listen REAL close to the new cbs video of nobama ! When the interviewer asked him if he was trying to coverup or hide the terrorist part of benghazi ,off camera he says YES!!! Here is the link to the video: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50134495n&tag=mg;60minutes