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The mainstream media has largely buried the Benghazi debacle and cover-up.

The mainstream media's silence on the Benghazi disaster reached deafening levels on Sunday, as hosts of four out of the five major news shows–with the exception of Fox News Sunday–failed to raise the issue. Only Bob Schieffer of CBS gave it serious consideration, and only after it was raised by Sen. John McCain.

When the Benghazi issue did surface, other than on Fox, it was invariably brought up by Republican guests, and then deflected by the hosts, who largely ignored new stories this week that implicated the White House in the decision not to intervene to save the life of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and other American staff.

The event as described by Jennifer Griffin is harrowing and tragic:

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command — who also told the CIA operators twice to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.

CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood, though, denied the claims that requests for support were turned down.

“We can say with confidence that the Agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi,” she said. “Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. In fact, it is important to remember how many lives were saved by courageous Americans who put their own safety at risk that night-and that some of those selfless Americans gave their lives in the effort to rescue their comrades.”

The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

A story from the AP is largely congruent with the Griffin story:

TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with around 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S.

Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.

The trucks bore the logo of Ansar al-Shariah, a powerful local group of Islamist militants who worked with the municipal government to manage security in Benghazi, the main city in eastern Libya and birthplace of the uprising last year that ousted Moammar Gadhafi after a 42-year dictatorship.

There was no sign of a spontaneous protest against an American-made movie denigrating Islam's Prophet Muhammad. But a lawyer passing by the scene said he saw the militants gathering around 20 youths from nearby to chant against the film. Within an hour or so, the assault began, guns blazing as the militants blasted into the compound.

One of the consulate's private Libyan guards said masked militants grabbed him and beat him, one of them calling him “an infidel protecting infidels who insulted the prophet.”

The witness accounts gathered by The Associated Press give a from-the-ground perspective for the sharply partisan debate in the U.S. over the attack that left U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead. They corroborate the conclusion largely reached by American officials that it was a planned militant assault. But they also suggest the militants may have used the film controversy as a cover for the attack.

Again- no protests.

The past week, the AP has gathered accounts from five witnesses, including one of the embassy guards and several people living next door to the consulate compound who were present when the militants first moved in. Most spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals for talking about the attack.

The neighbors all described the militants setting up checkpoints around the compound at about 8 p.m. The State Department's timeline says the attack itself began at around 9:40 p.m.

Khaled al-Haddar, a lawyer who passed by the scene as he headed to his nearby home, said he saw the fighters gathering a few youths from among passers-by and urged them to chant against the film.

“I am certain they had planned to do something like this, I don't know if it was hours or days, but it was definitely planned,” said al-Haddar. “From the way they set up the checkpoints and gathered people, it was very professional.”

The guard said he saw no protesters. He heard a few shouts of “God is great,” then a barrage of automatic weapons fire and rocket-propelled grenades began, along with barrages from heavy machine guns mounted on trucks.

Outlets such as the National Journal have taken Obama protection to new lows:

“It was clear from the outset that a group of people gathered that evening. A key question early on was whether extremists took over a crowd or if the guys who showed up were all militants,” said an intelligence official involved in the Benghazi assessment. “It took time—until that next week—to sort through varied and sometimes conflicting accounts to understand the group’s overall composition.”

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Even now, intelligence officials say, the full story is not known. It is not even clear that the video-inspired protests in Cairo were unrelated to the attack in Benghazi, because some of the extremists who attacked Stevens and his colleagues may have been provoked by watching the demonstrations on TV. Officials say they are still compiling a list of suspects.

When you listen to Jennifer Griffin describe a plea from the Americans at the consulate one thing stands out

“Where the blank is the Spectre?”

THE Spectre. Not “air support.” THE Spectre. Not “a” Spectre. “THE” Spectre.

A Spectre gunship was expected.

Thus here's the one piece of information which would explain everything.

What was the status of the AC 130's?

It has been reported that there were two AC 130's in Libya for Operation United Protector. Help was being requested in the form of a Spectre gunship and it was expected. Exit questions:

Were two AC 130's stationed in Libya?

Why would anyone paint a target with a laser if no support was expected?

Why were they looking for the Spectre?

This would tell us just about everything we need to know.

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@Liberal1 (Objectivity):

Do youy feel better for having posted six useless entries in a row? Whattsa matter? You don’t like having liberals talked to the way you liberals have been talking to us conservatives for years now? There seems to be no perjorative too foul for the left to smear the right with, but now you object to it?

Perhaps it is that you just don’t recognize anger. So let me spell it out for you; I am angry. I am sick of the name calling on the left that they (you) seem to think is absolutely OK. I am sick of you on the left thinking you can start a battle but it is not fair if your opponent comes to that battle armed. Then you cry foul. The only thing foul in our nation is the left.

So, if I give Greggie, or you, or Larry or any of the other leftist Stooges back to you what you have been dishing out for generations, so be it. Why should I worry about taking the “higher ground” when you have leaders like Harry Reid who accused Mitt Romney of being a felon?

You simply proved my school yard bully theory. Oh, you leftwingers are sooooo brave. You will spout falsehoods, lied and levy smears against conservatives, but when you get it back, you start crying and hiding behind your mommie’s skirt. So, if you don’t want me calling you out, if you don’t want to get smacked with my verbal brick, don’t come here and make stupid, false statements because I am not taking it lying down anymore.
I am just following your lead.

Aqua Concur with #44. As a former precinct captain for BHO I’ve sent an interior message to campaign HDQ. in Chicago STRONGLY requesting a statement detailing what exactly transpired in the 8 hrs between the attack on the Consulate and the recovery of the bodies of the former Seals at the annex.

Aqua Miss. State didn’t put up much of a fight. Hoping L.S.U. rested and at home can pull the upset over Alabama.With a win from U.S.C. over The Ducks( a track meet) N.D. moves to #1 or 2# with a win over Pitt.
“Wake up the echoes”

Aqua Below Auburn is God awful .S.E.C. Conspiracy against your Noles.

@Richard Wheeler:

Aqua Miss. State didn’t put up much of a fight. Hoping L.S.U. rested and at home can pull the upset over Alabama.With a win from U.S.C. over The Ducks( a track meet) N.D. moves to #1 or 2# with a win over Pitt.
“Wake up the echoes”

Never know in the SEC. Plus Bama plays Auburn in final regular season game. Nothing Auburn loves more than to dash the hopes of the Crimson Tide. But Bama looks very good this year.
Why are my Noles behind Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina? I smell a conspiracy.

No one needs spend much time thinking up names to identify idiots like you lib. I stated clearly with regard to Greg, you just cannot fix stupid. I see you fit that catagory as well. I’m not judging, I’m just saying. I wonder how you will like your crow when you have to eat it.

GREG
ON YOUR 2
THE 4STAR GENERAL SAID THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO,
AND SAID, IT WAS DONE WITH IN AN HOUR.
WELL THAT IS NOT THE ONE I SAID TO LIKE BUT NOT REMEMBER HIS COMMENT, DEFINITE LY NOT,
HE SAID THAT IT WAS DONE IN AN HOUR, THAT IS FALSE, IT TOOK MANY HOURS OF FIGHTING BEFORE THEY DIED, MOST PROBABLY THE WHOLE NIGHT, YES THERE WAS THING TO DO
BY AIR FOR SURE,
WHY DID HE SAY THAT LIE?
MAYBE TO TAKE SIDE WITH OBAMA, SO HE NOTICE THE GENERAL BEING REPLACE
AND THE NAVY ADMIRAL COMMANDER BEING DEMOTED SECONDS AFTER NOT AGREEING ALSO,
HE WANTED TO SAVE HIS NECK, OR LIKE HE ADD UP, THE PRESIDENT SCREW UP,
AND TIS ONE WAS RIGHT.

GREG
let’ put a real AMERICAN DEDICATED PRESIDENT TO BE,
AGAINST A DEPARTING PRESIDENT WHO LEFT AMERICANS TO DIE AN HORRIBLE DEATH WITHOUT HAVING THE GUTS TO ORDER ACTION TO LEVEL THE ENEMIES AND DISMEMBERED THEM ,ALL AT A TOUCH OF A BUTTON,
BUT HE HAD THE GUTS TO CIRCOMVENT CONGRESS ORDERS TO DEMAND GADAFI TO RESIGN AND MAKE ROOM FOR THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD HIS FRIENDS TO TAKE OVER LIBYA AND EGYPT AND WITH THE TAXPAYERS MONEY, COME BACK TO KILL THE 4 BRAVES AMERICANS WORKING FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SECURITY,

@ilovebeeswarzone:

WELL THAT IS NOT THE ONE I SAID TO LIKE BUT NOT REMEMBER HIS COMMENT, DEFINITE LY NOT,

Why? Why do you insist on typing in caps all the time? Given that numerous people have informed you that this is rude, are you intentionally trying to insult us?

I’m just curious.

IVAN
oh look it’s the full MOON, AND AGAIN YOU NEED A VICTIM TO PICK ON,
I don’t believe it’s rude to type on caps, who says.
I ‘m never rude on good people, THEY take my comment or pass,
I can do the same , but I’m not rude and not perfect like you are not either,
try to put up with other if you want them to put up with you,
and tonight don’t look at the MOON, YOU KNOW WHY?
WEREWOLF DANGER.
BYE

@ilovebeeswarzone:

I don’t believe it’s rude to type on caps, who says.

Given that many people have mentioned it is analogous to yelling-perhaps you don’t remember this-you insist on doing it.

Why do you do it?

It’s a simple question.

IVAN
thank’s for the link,
why didn’t you tell me that before, instead of yelling at me,
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone: #61
But, Bees, if you stop typing in all caps how will I know it’s you?

I hired the neighbor kid to chase Silver for a while. Now I’m sitting on my porch watching that dam_ed horse make a fool out of someone else for a while.

Petercat
you got it, you found why I like to type on the caps, it’s because I like to be unique,
there is my answer for IVAN, and I just realized it,
I really did not know why my hand was always on the CAPS,YES IT GO WITH MY REAL ME.
never like to follow the crowd as far as I remember,
geez, you put your finger on it right away, are you playing with psychiatry?
I bet you would be good at it,
and watching another get thrown out of the saddle
should be a learning time instead of a fun time,
can you ever be serious?
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone:

Sure, Bees, I can be serious. Read on:

My fellow Americans, I stand before you to discuss a serious problem that plagues older Americans of all races and creeds, the problem of…*drum roll* …unwanted nose and ear hair!
*audience begins to snicker*
Hey, I didn’t come here to be laughed at!
*audience laughs*
*Petercat walks off stage, head bowed*
Ah, well, back to the horse chase…

@ilovebeeswarzone:

Yelling is using Caps, Bees. Have I done that recently?

It doesn’t matter, now. You have the link, now you can possibly understand why some of us don’t appreciate you using CAPS.

Take care and have a good night.

IVAN
YES I appreciate the link also
thank you

Petercat
like I said, you cannot be serious even if you try,
I bet SILVER is keeping his eyes on you when you’re not looking, the question I think of is where does he run to, it must be somewhere he is drawn to, what can it be, who can it be,I learn a story unbelieveble
about a man going in the wood with his wife, his dogs and load his things on a jackass,
once they are on the wood a big mountain cat come to attack the dogs, the jackass get close and
grab the cat by the tail and swing it in the air, drop it down, and the cat try to get up to bite and the jackass
bent down and start biting it all over and sit on it, the cat is dead, the wife stupified has taken all on her camera, because she knew no one would believe the story, I saw the picture, a true story.
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone:
I believe it. Jackasses are pretty smart and tough (the four-legged ones, at least).
I’ll trade you my horse for your werewolf. Is he saddle broken?
And Silver is a lot like me – he runs around in circles, working hard at getting nowhere fast.

Petercat
aren’t we all doing that many times in our life?
did you say wherewolf, that remind me it’s he full moon,
watch SILVER’s behavior, we might have the answer to his running away,
bye