The Obama Libya Narrative Slowly Being Torn To Shreds

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The former security officer at the Libyan embassy testified today in front of Congress and it was brutal. Much of his complaints were because of the politics inside the State Department that he constantly had to fight against:

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The former regional security officer in Libya, Eric Nordstrom, recalled talking to a regional director and asking for twelve security agents.

“His response to that was, ‘You are asking for the sun, moon and the stars.’ And my response to him – his name was Jim – ‘Jim, you know what makes most frustrating about this assignment? It is not the hardships, it is not the gunfire, it is not the threats. It is dealing and fighting against the people, programs and personnel who are supposed to be supporting me. And I added (sic) it by saying, ‘For me the Taliban is on the inside of the building.’”

Another Commander of Security:

Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood, the commander of a Security Support Team (SST) sent home in August – against his wishes and, he says, the wishes of the late Ambassador Chris Stevens – said “we were fighting a losing battle. We couldn’t even keep what we had.”

So the State Department played politics but was it because of money?

“It has been suggested that budget cuts are responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Miss Lamb,” said Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R., California). “You made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which lead you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

“No, sir,” said [Charlene] Lamb.

But their testimony was equally damaging to Obama and crew.

…Wood said that when he heard of the attack on the Benghazi post on September 11, it was “instantly recognizable” that it had been a terrorist attack.

Why?

“Mainly because of my prior knowledge there,” Wood said. “I almost expected the attack to come. We were the last flag flying. It was a matter of time.

It was instantly recognizable as a terrorist attack by those who were in charge of security there but Hillary, Rice and Obama all blamed it on some youtube video for days after the incident.

What did they know and when did they know it?

Exit quote:

“Now this was a massive attack, no doubt bout it. We are getting new details. And I believe, Mr. Chairman, the reason we have those details is because of this hearing,” he said. “Mysteriously, the state department decided to give a press briefing last night. We weren’t invited. Certain news outlets weren’t invited. Any reasonable person looking at the security situation in Libya had to come to the conclusion that it was tumultuous at best.”

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I can’t wait until Romney brings this up during the next debate. I am sick and tired of the obama lying and the media covering it up. Good men were MURDERED and the blood is on obama’s hand.

What did they know and when did they know it?

Obama LIED and people DIED.

Take a look at this:

making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete investigation had been conducted with respect to allegations of misconduct on the part of personnel of the executive branch of the United States and personnel of the Committee for the Re-election of the President, and that there was no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct: or

This is from the First Article of IMPEACHMENT against Richard. M. Nixon. You see, the Democrats back in ’74 believe that lying to the American people was an impeachable offense.

Obama has lied through his teeth on this and if the Republicans were smart, they’d dust off this article of impeachment and take Barry to the Senate for a trail.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Well, it looks like the funding of security issue wasn’t an issue Greg! If this had been a military operation, the General (Clinton) would have been releived. Civilian employees are not subject to court marshal, but they do swear to abide to a code of conduct. Maybe we should fire them all!

Since I just posted links and a comment to Greg on another thread about how much of the State Dept’s expenditures were based on “security”, I’ll add it here. Budget cuts were never the issue. But they do make for a desperate lib/prog talking point during an election season.

From the other thread, but appropriate here… with some changes for discussion continuity:

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The bulk of the State Dept’s appropriated funds does not revolve around embassy/diplomatic security, and proposed State Dept cuts are not enough to effect security funding.

Have a gander at the State Dept’s 2011 financial reports, and consider the “43% cuts” that have been bandied about.

Total 2011 costs, $23.26 billion. How much towards “Achieve Peace and Security”? $6.49 billion, or just 2.8% of their total budget. And that’s assuming all 2.8% of that is towards security only.

If you’re a business man, do you think there might be room for streamlining the other 97.2% of expenditures, and still provide adequate security? How about the categories of

$887 billion – Governing Justly and Democratically (????)
$6.340 billion – Investing in People (Who’s? Ours?)
$2.562 billion – Promoting International Understanding (ain’t that workin’ out well….)

Those three categories alone represent over 42% of the total expenditures already, and that doesn’t even address admin/staff/transportation/fleet costs….

Maybe give up a few VOLTS, perhaps?

What is this world coming to when the Sommelier of Whine can’t blame Bush for this?

Progressive energy in foreign policy was all over this disaster, and Hillary will be forced to eat it. So much for her Presidency. Slick Willy is pissed now, for having spoken for and introduced Obama at the convention. It was a wasted sale of his soul, . . . OK, maybe not.

I posted here right after this (benghazi) happened…that at some point it was going to come out that there was not enough security. What this is…is a HUGE f’up by Hillary and co. And the president, throwing her under the bus. Now the more interesting part is going to be watching how the Clinton machine…and their dark hats…handle this. Are they willing to bring the president down to keep Hillary’s pipes clean? Did anybody see today’s hearings? Those people work for dept of state.

Now, the president…first impression….made Hillary stand with him when he had to issue a statement after the killings. Did you see the look on her face? Seeing this could be damaging to his campaign….he sent his best bullcrap artist to every network…to try and help spin this off. She got toasted as the “facts” came out. So, like vampires…they all go back in their boxes and don’t come out. So, now what’s happening….? Who’s gonna take responsbility for this in a way that leaves Obama clean? And it is NOT going to be Hillary. If it comes to that…the Clinton machine will burn the whitehouse down. Meanwhile…the republicans are putting down the facts….under oath.

MSM response? Crickets for the most part. I have to applaud CNN in one sense….they’ve got some kick ass on the ground reporters who were there in Libya…and know what happened…and they aren’t letting it slide — Kudoos to them. On the other hand…they are bringing in senior admin from CNN to append that reporting with…..spin. They claimed that nothing came out of the hearings today…..just politics. Oh…the “confirmation” that this was a direct terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 and had nothing to do with protest over a movie….is just politics? Learning that internal “security” concerns and requests were denied is just “politics”?
Who would have thunk it? A terror attack on 9/11 anniversary. Nobody could have predicted that? (doih) And their answer to it all finally was…..it really wouldn’t have even mattered if we’d have had 8 people instead of 4….they would have all died anyway. Unbelievable.

Get the popcorn folks. And a good cold beer. This is going to be high drama. The Clinton machine is about to crank back up. btw….where is “Bill”? You know..the one person who could turn this around for Obama? hmmmmm.

@Dc:

Dc, Hillary Clinton now has a choice; does she let Obama throw her under the bus, after all, she is the head of the State Department that dropped the ball on Benghazi, or does she lay this Benghazi goose egg right on Obama’s desk? My guess is she is going to try to ride it out for another three weeks, but the Benghazi story is moving too fast now. When even the lapdog press starts reporting what a clusterf*uck Benghazi was due to the refusal to provide more security, that snow ball is only goint to get bigger.

I would imagine Hillary is not a happy camper about now. She sold her soul to the devil and the devil will have no qualms about making that claim. She knows she can’t trust Obama, but somewhere in her mind thought that she could parlay herself right into the 2016 nomination by popular demand. As far as Bill goes; well, he has no love for Obama but his loyalty to the Democrat Party trumped his hatred for Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Now he knows he bet on the wrong horse and that his endorsement of Obama is going to wind up tainting his reputation and the DNC’s sweetheart. Get out the triangulation tool, Bubba, you and Hillary are going to need it to jack up the bus and get it off Hillary.

@retire05:

She sold her soul to the devil and the devil will have no qualms about making that claim.

No way he dumps her. He can’t afford to at this stage. She’s got too much shit on him and vice-versa.

@MataHarley:

Total 2011 costs, $23.26 billion. How much towards “Achieve Peace and Security”? $6.49 billion, or just 2.8% of their total budget. And that’s assuming all 2.8% of that is towards security only.

Actually, if these numbers are correct, it is 28% not 2.8. but that doesn’t really change the fact that money was not the reason for this debacle.

Correct, Redteam… didn’t move my decimal point. Thanks for the catch and correct. These figures are pulled from the 2011 State Dept financial report that I linked above.

Dc, the scapegoat has already been fingered, and played in the hearings. It’s Petraeus’s CIA. Don’t think that mud will stick, but the Zero only needs for it to stick for another 26 days. This admin wants to delay the truth so as to avoid consequences in the election.

Who woulda thunk that Obama and Hillary would have unwittingly engineered their own “October surprise”?

CLUE: Hillary ain’t going under the bus….somebody else is. Now..if she and Obama can work it out that its somebody else…that might work. My feeling is..this is why the “Bill”Clinton has stopped.. They are trying to work out who’s fault it’s going to be. But, all indications are…that’s falling apart. And that’s why she’s got people lined up at these hearings. Basically, what’s going to happen is….State dept is going to lay this at Obama’s (whitehouse) feet…(ie., the lies that they thought up together). It’s going to come out that it was the WH that made these decisions that ultimately led to the lack of security, and the subsequent coverup, etc. and Obama is going to eat it right before the elections. Hillary will come out “clean” …vindicated. The RNC members of committee have already said today…that Hillary/state dept is cooperating fully.

If Hillary starts to be implicated in this….start watching for unexplained accidents.

Interesting Mata. (ie, CIA). Of course…General “Betrayus”. Fits their meme. Problem is…there’s already enough intel leaked to sink it. Can’t put that genie back in the box. Beyond that, requests were made for more security, and security concerns had already been expressed prior. Can’t undo that. It’s out of CIA hands at that point and becomes “who ultimately made the decisions”.

Hilary’s already gone in three months no matter which way the election goes. The only thing to stop her from throwing Obama under the bus is 2016 Democratic convention considerations. She might turn evidence against Obama if she thinks she can profit politically by it. In fact it might behoove her to do so to keep it from being used against her in 2016.

@Ivan:

No way he dumps her.

It’s not really a matter of ‘him dumping her’ is it? She’s the one that he drove the bus up on her back. I’d think she’d be the one trying to get out from under it.

@Dc:

Dc, the CIA doesn’t provide embassy/consulate security; State Dept. does. And Charlene Lamb admitted yesterday that she was the one who denied additional security, after it was requested, and after she ran it by higher ups. Also, when asked if the refusal was due to budget concerns, Lamb answered “No.”

At no time in the hearing did I get the impression that the two State Department witnesses, Patrick Kennedy and Charlene Lamb, were trying to dump the responsibility for lack of security in Libya, and Benghazi in particular, on the CIA. And I watched every minute of the entire hearing. Basically, Kennedy and Lamb were trying to push the meme that they provided the “proper” amount of security based on the information they had about the situation on the ground in Libya. Perhaps some want to connect the dots to get to the CIA, but that won’t fly because Lt. Col. Wood and Nordstrom were both on the ground in Libya and both were under the direction of the State Department. Kennedy, and Lamb, admitted they had never even been to Libya.

Hillary is simply going to try to ride this out until January when she leaves State. But I don’t know that she can do that since even the lapdog media is starting to report on this scandal and either the buck stops with her as head of State or with Obama.

Early this a.m. a Yemen American Embassy worker was murdered by A.Q. Now, it won’t get much play because the worker was a Yemeni, but it is another attack against American interests. Obama’s entire Middle East policy is crumbling. It just depends on how bad it crumbles in the next three weeks.

@Dc, the State Dept is busy looking for cover. The point of the hearings is two-fold. First to define the nature of the attacks (i.e. a planned attack or a spontaneous response), and the second is the bungling of the lack of security, and rejected requests.

As I said before on a couple of other threads, Hillary has no way to squirm out of the second. The security requests and disposition of MCESGs falls on her shoulders as Sec’y of State. However they are attempting to redeem Susan Rice and absolve the WH and State Dept on the “it’s the video” explanations by blaming that on the CIA.

On two other threads, I pointed out the CIA intercepted communications within hours after the consulate attack, that stated that Ansar al-Sharia had an attack plan in place, but only decided to go ahead with it after seeing the protests and uprising in Cairo.

Thus the “mixed message” of planned attack vs protest. The CIA reports to the POTUS and Hillary in briefings, but I would say the official message of the WH is going to be decided by the POTUS and State Dept. They chose to run with the “fault of the video”, and omit any mention of the planned attack as their talking points. At best, you can say it’s a half truth. Per the intel intercept, it was both a planned attack, and the decision to implement it was made after they saw the protests in Cairo… not Benghazi.

By Sept 27th, even FOX News reported that Petraeus expressed the opinion in a briefing that it was the result of the video.

Intelligence sources said that the Obama administration internally labeled the attack terrorism from the first day in order to unlock and mobilize certain resources to respond, and that officials were looking for one specific suspect. The sources said the intelligence community knew by Sept. 12 that the militant Ansar al-Shariah and Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb were likely behind the strike.

Further, an official said, “No one … believed that the mortars, indirect and direct fire, and the RPGs were just the work of a mob — no one.”

Yet a congressional source told Fox News that CIA Director David Petraeus, during a briefing with members of the House Intelligence Committee three days after the attack, espoused the view that Benghazi was an out-of-control demonstration prompted by the YouTube video. According to the source, this was “shocking” to some members who were present and saw the same intelligence pointing toward a terrorist attack.

This is one of the reasons that the continuing meme is that Susan Rice, or anyone else, would have said the same thing because that is, allegedly, what the CIA told them. Notice that in the hearings, the State Dept now wants to say they originally thought it was terrorism, but it was a CIA memo that defined their public talking points.

But asked about the administration’s initial — and since retracted — explanation linking the violence to protests over an anti-Muslim video circulating on the Internet, one official said, ‘‘That was not our conclusion.’’ He called it a question for others to answer, without specifying. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to speak publicly on the matter, and provided no evidence that might suggest a case of spontaneous violence or angry protests that went too far.

…snip…

The administration counters that it has provided its best intelligence on the attack, and that it refined its explanation as more information came to light. But five days after the attack, Obama’s ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, gave a series of interviews saying the administration believed the violence was unplanned and that extremists with heavier weapons hijacked the protest and turned it into an outright attack.

She has since denied trying to mislead Congress, and a concurrent CIA memo that was obtained by the Associated Press cited intelligence suggesting the demonstrations in Benghazi ‘‘were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo’’ and ‘‘evolved into a direct assault’’ on the diplomatic posts by ‘‘extremists.’’

When it comes to the WH message, blaming the video, they’re going to put that on the CIA.

But now the Atlantic Wire has picked up and run with the “CIA to blame” theme in their article, “Should the CIA Share Some of the Blame for Benghazi?” And they have expanded it far beyond any intel briefings, and into the security realm.

Whether they can make that mud stick is another question. But one thing is abundantly clear…. they are attempting to shift as much of this to the CIA as possible. And as Michael Walsh at the NRO says in his article, “Blowback”, “David Petraeus is just one press conference shy of bringing down the whole house of cards.” Whether Petraeus will do so is another question.

One of the points not given much attention is the nature of the attack on the ambassador. One report from a talking head on a Canadian network, for example, today emphatically claimed that all intelligence on the attack shows that from the very beginning the fierce onslaught was obviously NOT a demonstration grown out-of-hand but a well planned and well armed strike.

Most of the MSM is playing this down since it would obviously conflict with the Administration’s lies.