22 Sep

Tyranny Of The Mob

                                       

Stalin Creates Famine And Havoc By Seizing The Harvest For Redistribution, Seven Million Ukrainians Starved To Death


Romney committed a major gaffe when he figured 47% of our people are on the dole and will never vote for him. Indeed, I think he has made a major mistake; a mistake that hardly registers in comparison to the ongoing gong show of the Obama administration.

However, when we consider the number of working Socialists, Communists, union drones, academics, sycophantic college students, and celebrity voters; we have a demographic far larger than Obama needs for a majority.

When we analyze this 47%, it is easy to visualize the countless victims of the Obama economy, a demographic of unknown size. They are the ones who are not willing to sell their birthright and dignity to ride on Obama’s Gravy Train. They want desperately to reclaim stature, dignity, and achieve their personal dreams. Like the fighter who knows to catch his breath during the mandatory eight count, they plan to accept Obama’s Chump Change only long enough to get back on their feet and regain their strength.

They pray for an end to this phony Jobless Recovery that only seems to benefit Obama cronies: they want the opportunity to put everything on the line once again or maybe for the first time in the case of the young who have not had an opportunity for the American dream. They don’t need a soothing hand on their brow and Barrack’s monotonous, lilting cadence with those irritating lisping “S” sounds telling them to relax and trust in the Democrat Party, and to remember to vote early and vote often.

Many Americans only need to survive the next two months of the Obama anti-business economy, and until it is over, they have families to feed. You see there is a subtle method to Obama’s benevolence. It has been used many times before by several Leftist leaders.

During the 1932-33 period, the Ukraine was a wealthy farming region with land owners and the diabolical people who hire others. Stalin hated these people who refused to accept his totalitarian rule and after the fall of ’32 harvest, he told the Ukrainians he had to collect the harvest to “Redistribute” the wealth. The grain was collected and shipped out of the Ukraine, leaving the people to starve. Leaders and those who owned land or hired others were executed.

Controlling food and imposing economic hardship makes those who supply the means to survive seem like benevolent leaders to those who are just barely surviving. Some people can’t see through the ruse, but there are millions who can see through Obama’s plan of providing the means to survive to win over loyalty. Is someone a hero who destroys the opportunity to make an honest living, but provides you with the means to survive or the implied threat of taking it away.

Obama figures he has created the largest demographic, the welfare demographic; but many people are in this group through circumstance not choice. It looks good on paper and there are many who are more than willing to become a mob for the president, many consider the Occupy groups to be nothing more than mobs. Yet they are but a small subgroup of the 47%; it is the ones with dignity, who accept Obama handouts reluctantly who personify the spirit of America. They don’t wait for marching orders or scripts, they wait for this president to be defeated so that Americans will have the opportunity to participate in the American dream once more, instead of being Obama dupes and Useful Idiots.

Don’t count these people out Mr Romney; many fights are won after a fighter has regrouped during his mandatory eight count.

About Skook

A professional horseman for over 40 years, Skook continues to work with horses. He is in an ongoing educational program, learning life's lessons from one of the world's greatest instructors, the horse. Skook has a personal website skooksjournal.com featuring his personal writings and historical novel type stories.
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49 Responses to Tyranny Of The Mob

  1. joetote says: 1

    Ah Skook. As always, right on. You basically point out the most salient fact as to what is going on. History shows these policies have failed. As in the 30’s with Stalin and so many other countries that tried the Socialist route, they are doomed to failure! Five year plans, control of every facet of life, everything the Obama minions want to do will fail and there is really one major reason why in the end.

    You know I’ve mentioned in the past the Russians and their insane mad love for Mother Russia. A Russian patriot is indeed something to behold once riled up. Yet they put up with some of the worse conditions government wise for years, until they began to starve! Once they reached that point, the lipstick wore off and the Soviet Union fell. As you state above, one has to feel the American people can in fact see through the ruse and fight back. As there are now so many more people on food stamps as an example, one would think it is beginning to sink through to the masses and in turn the electorate!

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  2. Skook says: 2

    Joe, good to hear from you.

    I think of how a man with a young family contends with the Age of Obama and the Jobless Recovery. He must keep a roof over his family and he needs to feed them. In essence, Obama has appropriated his means or ability to provide for his family. Consequently, he must go on Obama’s dole in one way or another. History has repeated itself and our politicians sit on their hands like bumps on a log, rather than insult our “special” president and risk being labeled a racist. Our politicians are cowards, but these men with families to feed are doing the best they can. Their only other option is to resort to crime.

    No one is going to send them to ivory Tower schools and arrange their admission to graduate school with measured donations; Hell no, they face life on the deck of life in a typhoon. Neither Romney or obama understands how humiliating it is for a man with pride to hold out his hand for Obama’s Chump Change, but their anger is seething and they know they would rather work than be an Obama Stooge the rest of their life.

    This is where both these men have underestimated the steel of the American worker. Te difference between the two is that Obama wants to destroy this indomitable spirit of the American working male ( I don’t really know if women have this same spirit), but Romney wants to provide the opportunity for those willing to brush off the stench of Obama’s Socialist Welfare philosophy and jump back into the free market or the labor market.

    You don’t learn about this american spirit in the halls of overpriced academia: you learn about it in the trenches of the work place.

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  3. Jarhead68 says: 3

    While Romney was clumsy with his 47% number, he was right about what he was saying. There is a large faction of our society who don’t pay income tax and who receive largesse from the local, state & federal governments who will vote for whoever will promise them the most. There is no use in Romney trying to convince those people to vote for him. He would have to out-promise Obumble, then he would lose my vote and all other conservative votes. In fact, most of us would stay home on election day. The choice becomes: Do you want the Kenyan socialist or the American liberal? Not much choice.

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  4. CharlieGee says: 4

    I was laid off suddenly in Feb. and glad to have Social Security as a backup (I am 64) even though I was not ready to retire. I collected unemployment for a while too. I am grateful to this Nation for providing that safety net but also realize I had to climb down (or up) from the net and get back to the business of making a living. I feel for those who cannot find a job but I have always been able to and now have a job in my field (nursing home dietary). You can’t expect someone who has laid in a hammock all his adult life to help others out of the net and I think obama has an evil purpose in mind. In my experience a ‘teflon’ characteristic in a person is a sure sign of the presence of an evil spirit. How else can it be explained that the President is so popular and at the same time a cronic liar who couldn’t manage his way out of a Walmart parking lot?

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  5. SKOOKUM
    THANK YOU VERY GOOD,
    an error mean that MITT ROMNEY IS A HUMAN ,THEY AND THIS IS AN EXHAUSTIVE JOB AT THIS TIME TO SELL HIS ABILITY TO PRODUCE JOBS FOR AMERICANS WHO LEARNED NOT TO TRUST OBAMA,
    THEY ARE DES-ILLUSION AND THE MEDIAS ARE POUNDING ON MITT ROMNEY WHO HAS WON THE SUPPORT OF ALL THE BRAINS IN AMERICA,WHO KNOW OF HIS QUALIFICATIONS,
    THAT IS MORE THAN WHAT THE PEOPLE DEMAND OF OBAMA IN 2008, THE MEDIAS WHERE SELLING HIM WITHOUT TELLING THAT HE WAS ADDICTED TO DRUGS
    IS IN IT MANIPULATION OF THE PEOPLE,
    BY OBAMA TELLING LIES MAKING PROMISES WHICH HE DID NOT MEAN TO KEEP BECAUSE
    HE DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE A PRESIDENT OF A COUNTRY THE SIZE OF AMERICA,
    HE LOST THE WORLD TRUST BECAUSE OF HIS ARROGANCE APPROACH, THEY ALL DESPISE OBAMA,
    THERE IS NO WAY HE CAN RECOVER FROM HIS FAILURES,
    IOWA, FLORIDA , VIRGINIA, YOU HAVE TO FACE IT, THIS IS THE END OF OBAMA IN NOVEMBER,
    YOU MAY AS WELL MAKE IT EASY AND VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY THIS TIME, IF YOU WANT THE REAL RECOVERY, NO FALSE PROMISES NO DANCING AROUND WORDS, NO LIES, NO SHOUTING.
    AMERICA WILL RISE TO SUCCESS AGAIN, AND RETAKE HER STANDARD SHE LOST WITH OBAMA,
    THE 3 STATES MUST COME AND CLOSE RANK, THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT NOW.
    THERE WILL BE NO EXCUSES AFTER IF YOU FAIL AMERICA WHO IS CALLING ALL HER PEOPLE
    TO RETURN TO THE CONSTITUTION , WHICH OBAMA DENIED, AS HE DENIED THE GLORIOUS FLAG,
    THINK ABOUT IT,

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  6. FAITH7 says: 6

    Republicans and Conservatives feel the need to help our Elderly, our Disabled, those with Mental disabilities, serious disabilities and the destitute….this is a given.

    I believe the Progressives, the Democrats, the Left they ALL KNOW the “Truth” – that there are tons of people in this country who ‘scam the system’ because they “are lazy” and those who feel by virtue of being born the world owes them…these people ‘want’ a hand out from the Government and who DON’T WANT to take responsibility for their own lives….but, the Progressives, the Democrats, the Left – they ALL KNOW that by pandering to these people is he only way they can get sorely needed VOTES…

    When Rebublicans and Conservatives point this TRUTH out…the push back from the Progressives, the Democrats, the Left is …. See! See! “those” are the mean people….”those” are people who “don’t care” about you!! WE are the one’s who care…yes we are the ones ‘giving you this…[candy]…. in exchange for your votes….

    Meanwhile, these ‘same people’ Democrats, Progressives, Lefty “Leaders” and Politicians… are living high on the hog, living large…voting themselves nice pay raises… and “you” are getting the mere pittance ‘allowed‘ tossed to you by these same leaders and politicians…

    ….even the Lefty MSM lap dogs who live high on the hog making ‘millions’ to pander [to convince you with] the same lies for the same Lefty Leaders and Politicians. All the while these same people attach a ‘stigma’ on the Wealthy… These people ARE the WEALTHY!!!

    Yes and, in continuing this downward spiral… in time, things in the Government will change too…and not for the better now that they’ve ‘got you’ [via your vote] more demands will be made from you and more freedom and liberties will be taken away….[it has already started]

    Folks, cradle to grave government ‘care’ [Socialism/Communism] is a fallacy….it is a LIE…it never has worked…never will work…it’s one of those too good to be true memes…it is a fallacy that only creates misery on top of misery…until everyone is equally miserable…except of course the “WEALTHY” TOTALITARIAN Government Leaders at the “top”who will ‘think about’ throwing their ‘scraps’ to you….

    I don’t think this is truly what Americans want…this is not what we have been fighting for in our American History…it is what we have been fighting AGAINST!!!

    Many people want to come here to ‘get away’ from these forms of Government…and many in America take their freedoms for granted….how sad…how very ignorant!!

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  7. P Acosta says: 7

    Why is it an error to tell the truth, Romney’s “smoking gun tape” reveals that Romney is grounded on reality on both counts, on the so called 47%, and on his comments about Palestine. And most definitely about his comments on the Fed, which were edited out.
    On the 47% he was right, if you don’t pay income tax now, how appealing can it be to hear a him say that he is going to lower their income tax? How much more less than zero can they pay?
    As to the Palestinian comment, Romney expressed the same opinion that Golda Meier once expressed. When asked about when would there be peace between Israel and its neighbours, Golda replied, “Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.” What has changed since then?
    Replying to similar question on another occasion she said “you can’t shake hands with a fist”, once again, what has changed since then?
    Apparently Romney, as well as I seem to agree with her.

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  8. Redteam says: 8

    @Jarhead68: Jarhead (are you really a jarhead?)

    Do you want the Kenyan socialist or the American liberal? Not much choice.

    I’m not trying to put down what you said, but Romney is ‘not quite’ a liberal. He’s definitely not a conservative, more on the moderate plane. But you can’t possibly believe that there ‘is no difference in which one you elect’ . One is hell bent on sending the country to hell. the other one is a lot more moderate and at least understands private business, something EC wants to completely destroy (except for what benefits him). So don’t sit on your rump on election day, vote out the socialist.

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  9. Nan G says: 9

    Romney was making a point that there are certain constituencies which will vote Obama in high proportions.
    He clumsily lumped them all into the 47% who pay no Fed Income taxes.
    But when we count all Obama’s sure-thing constituencies it is about 47%.
    There are those whose lifestyles require the dole.
    (That includes many who are long-termers on the dole, but it also includes paperpushers whose careers come from doling out the dole.)
    The DNC had speeches that were each and all extensions of Obama’s own thinking.
    There was a very telling point about the dole, or, as Dems like to call it, the safety net.
    The mouthpiece was Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy.
    He said….

    The Romney-Ryan budget. It isn’t conservative. It’s harsh, it’s radical, and it’s wrong. It would shred the safety net that protects the middle class.

    The safety net was NOT designed to ”protect the MIDDLE CLASS.”
    the safety net should be there, as Faith, in post #6 points out, “to help our Elderly, our Disabled, those with Mental disabilities, serious disabilities and the destitute…”
    Therein lies the issue.
    This is where the debate needs to be.
    Should the ”safety net” prop up the MIDDLE CLASS, or our Elderly, our Disabled, those with Mental disabilities, serious disabilities and the destitute?
    The sustainability of the safety net is at stake.
    The ”rich,” cannot sustain all of our Elderly, our Disabled, those with Mental disabilities, serious disabilities and the destitute….and the entire MIDDLE CLASS.
    Printing money, as has been Obama’s ”solution” til now, only makes our dollars shrink, but that makes the stock market look good.
    Obama seems to be all about appearances, looking good.
    He has done nothing of substance to make America a success.
    Or even to help it recover.
    It has all been for show.
    I hope a whole lot of those 47%ers don’t want more of the same.

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  10. P Acosta says: 10

    @Redteam: I think you need to read my comment again, I am not saying anything different than what you are saying. What I am saying is that there is nothing wrong with what Romney said, on the contrary, I agree with it on all counts. And second, this election is not about Romney anyway, we could have Mickey Mouse running against Obama, and Mickey Mouse would get my unequivocal vote without any trepidations.

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  11. Redteam says: 11

    @FAITH7: Very good Faith:

    who ‘scam the system’ because they “are lazy” and those who feel by virtue of being born the world owes them…these people ‘want’ a hand out from the Government and who DON’T WANT to take responsibility for their own lives….

    It occurred to me while reading what you wrote that the people that have never had a job is what is wrong with the world. If you go to a country where no one works, (middle east countries) they all carry a gun, they steal what they need to feed their family (if they have one) or just to feed themselves. They would rather not have any responsibility, just steal, kill, whatever they have to do to exist. Getting these people riled up to participate in a ‘sacking an embassy of the ‘great devil USA’ is very easy. They stand a chance to gain in some way by participating and will prolong any likelihood that they will ever have to work to support themselves or a family. It is likely if they were in love, had a family, he would rather have an income and a way to feed his wife and children. Lacking the family, why work.

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  12. Redteam says: 12

    @P Acosta: You are correct PAcosta, and as far as I can see, I didn’t disagree with you. and, in fact, after reading what you did say, I agree 100%. The most important thing is getting Romney into the empty chair.

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  13. jlfintx says: 13

    Scoop, I appreciate your article and would like to give the perspective of someone who could take the handouts but will not. In 2010 I moved back to our hometown because I could no longer work and take care of my wife who has a serious and terminal illness.

    I could not find work in my profession because everyone here in my profession knows that my wife is ill (and are rightly afraid that she would cause them a major increase in health insurance costs) and that is why we moved to Dallas in the first place.

    So, by the grace of God, I was fortunate to pick up work in Dallas and travel there with my wife and dogs and am cleaning up a mess left behind by a former co-worker that stole $8M while not doing his job to file tax returns and handle company finances. He was the CFO and also managed all the federal, state and local tax compliance. He is now in federal prison.

    We lost both our health insurance (by a simple mistake when my wife put the wrong year on the January check to the company that handled our COBRA coverage), our truck and I am actually using the tax attorney for the organization that I am doing tax compliance for’s car to travel back and forth. It is about 150 miles one way and I have to still prepare all of the 2008-2010 returns and amend some since the embezzler had not filed anything since 2008. I have to get the organization’s standing in about 22 states back in good shape since it is a very large organization.

    So, I am working as a contractor and trusting God for my wife’s myriad prescriptions and doctors costs. We will never be out of medical debt, much less the other things we have to live with because of this situation, but I will never, ever, accept a government handout again.

    I did that in 1991-1994 when my daughter and wife were both sick and they at the time thought our daughter had CF. My wife, as you know, has been sick since 1986-87 and has been giving 0 chance to survive several times when her disease became acute.

    I would rather lose my ability to get health care (I have a bunch of health issues, not the least of which is my teeth all need to be pulled) and everything than let my country go down the tubes, although I am not sure that is still unavoidable.

    Basically, it is my faith in our Lord God that has kept me sane and able to continue and I do not understand how anyone can live without that comfort that only He brings. What ails the country is far behind conservative, democratic, fiscal, etc., policies. My opinion is judgment has already began to fall on this country and it will continue unless this country gets on its knees. Even then it may be too late.

    So all of you that are deity neutral or negative ignore my post, because nothing I say can or will change your minds, but I will continue to pray for you just the same.

    I wrote here last probably when I lost my beloved Gracie, my Golden Retriever, which was a year ago yesterday and I still mourn her passing every day. It may have been later but I do remember the condolensces of that time and still appreciate that because she was my rock.

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  14. James Raider says: 14

    Skook, quite right, and 80 years later the Ukraine still has yet to recover. It is a rich country, still being pillaged, and corruption never was brought under control.

    Meanwhile, the first candidate with a real track record of success in business, better than that of any President in generations, remains in a struggle, equal in the polls, against an individual with zero track record of competence, a now Proven abject failure in leadership, and responsible for a 50% increase in debt which is about to through the roof in the new year.

    Surely a large % of the unemployed understand enough to vote for someone who might have a chance to stimulate serious job creation programs. They can’t possibly be so ignorant of realities facing them to wish 4 more years of Obama’s incompetence on themselves.

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  15. James Raider says: 15

    @jlfintx: #13,

    You have that most precious ingredient which has brought America to succeed on so many levels, determination, which inevitably also comes with independence.

    That will stand you in good stead for life, . . . if only such characteristic could be bottled and distributed, the Nation would be on its way to recovery, and people like Obama, and most of Congress would never get elected.

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  16. Skookum says: 16

    @jlfintx: #13, I wish you the best and wish I could do more. I’ve had problems, but they pale in comparison. Like you and many others, my business has been affected by the economy and the corruption of others. Thankfully my strength and health is good; good beyond reason for my age and yet I wonder when age will catch up with me and it will be impossible to recover.

    I am glad that you find strength in God. In these days of hardship too many of us think God has deserted us. It is a reaction the Progressives count on to advance their agenda.

    I have found myself selfishly dwelling on my own problems. Reading of your situation makes me realize I have been self-centered and I am ashamed.

    I remember reading of the death of your dog. The loss of animal friends can be devastating. They ask so little, but give back so much.

    Never hesitate to engage me in conversation or to vent your rage. I sometimes work late, but I always check in and I will always be ready to listen.

    Good Luck my friend.

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  17. Ditto says: 17

    Obama’s plan is fiendishly devious and I have no doubt, it is what he planned all along all during this term in office. By keeping unemployment high, by keeping an uncertain environment for business by expanding regulations, refusing to foster compromise (thus ensuring that Congress would not address the deficit,) he has engineered a horribly dangerous economic future for America. As a result, our credit rating has been lowered twice, the result being that we have to pay a higher interest rate on our dept. His “stimulus” plan added greatly to the debt while creating a relatively small number of very expensive temporary jobs that have since ended, (some of these are the very same jobs that the unions are blasting Republicans in local, state and Congressional offices for not continuing after the Federal money ran out). He and his Democratic cohorts have forced on the nation a healthcare plan, the expanse and cost of which we still can not calculate. To top this off, under his leadership the number of Americans receiving entitlements and various government hand-outs has exploded enormously, in part due to the failure of this economy to create new jobs.

    Note that the last, is what Obama is gambling will get him reelected, as those unemployed and under-employed desperately seek to continue their government dependency. Yet in typical Socialist slight of hand, Obama’s campaign continually drives home their propaganda of presumed racism, sexism and class-warfare, claiming that all our woes are due to Wall Street and a greedy, rich upper-class.

    I reiterate that Romney was stupid to make that 47% remark and to insert himself into the class-warfare war that the Democrats desperately want to play. He should instead state quite firmly that “The Obama campaign is playing you. You are being had. They are using the tactics of divisiveness and fear to transform this great nation into a culture of entitlement of, and dependency on the government. They want to replace a free republic based on the American dream, into a democratic-socialist state where the government dictates what everyone shall receive, and what rights they will allow you to keep. It will be a nation of the government, by the government, and for the government.”

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  18. jlfintx
    hi,
    yes I remember your beloved dog, because it happen to me also,
    how could I forget,
    I admire you to be so determine to go ahead and make it work,
    I and many other lived in those times which force a person to not give up but to continue and beat the time itself,which end up passing, taking with it the hardship which did no destruction on your soul as much, as strong as they hit you, because you had GOD HOLDING YOUR HAND, HE KNOW YOUR LOYALTY AND DEMAND THE EXTREME TO SEE YOUR BREAKING POINT, AND YOU SHOWED IT AND BOW TO GOD, AND YOU WILL BE GRACE WITH THE EARTH AND HEAVEN TREASURE, WHEN YOU GET AT THE END OF THIS ROAD AND CHANGE COURSE, IT WILL BE A FEELING OF CONQUERING ON THE NEGATIVES FORCES VANISHING BEHIND, BUT YOU WILL KNOW HOW STRONG YOU ARE,
    SOME DAY WHEN YOUR ROAD IS NO MORE FULL OF AMBUSH, AND YOU ARE ONE TO NEVER GIVE UP,
    AND YOU HAVE ALL MY ADMIRATION AND RESPECT,
    I remember a few years of having troubles times, some where pushing me to see my breaking point
    and I look at those thinking I was superior to them and they could not break my mind, my thoughts
    and my soul, even in the hardest time of attacks, and it pass, we seem to forget it when it goes away,
    we humans are so powerful, we just don’t know how, until life teach us to dwell into
    our reserve of that power where GOD is waiting for us with unpredictable future blessings.
    bye

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  19. bwax says: 19

    Skook,

    This exactly why I think we need workfare, not welfare in this country. There are thousands of jobs that need to be accomplished, but why would anyone want to work if they can sit on their butt and draw Obama money? Put them to work doing public service and issue them a salary.

    Obviously, there are truly needy people that need help, but not 100 million of them!

    Bruce

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  20. bwax
    yes there is many jobs they could be doing to earn money, but OBAMA restrain the busyness by
    his policy of control over them with all kinds of rules and regulations, and his OBAMA healthcare
    this is freaking up the busyness who are backing up on hiring more people they cannot afford
    all those screws put on the wheels, and OBAMA is determine to break the WEALTH of AMERICA,
    HE MUST BE LET GO so AMERICA CAN RISE UP AGAIN, AND MAKE LIFE OF THE PEOPLE WORTHY OF
    THE PEOPLE WHICH MANY HAD GIVEN UP SINCE THE 2009 OBAMA SAID HE WILL CHANGE AMERICA FOREVER, WELL HELL NO, OBAMA, THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER
    EVERY FOUR YEARS TO VOTE, THAT IS ONLY THEN THEY WILL VOTE YOU OUT THIS NOVEMBER,
    THESE AMERICANS ARE TOLERANT AND PEACEFUL AND CAN’T WAIT FOR NOVEMBER 6TH,
    THEY WILL END YOUR JOB OF DESTRUCTION, NOT KEEP YOU SO YOU CAN MAKE IT WORSE
    AS YOUR AGENDA IS KNOWN NOW CLEAR ENOUGH FOR THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE. THAT BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE,AS WE SEE NOW

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  22. Skookum says: 21

    Ditto, excellent commentary, this Affordable Health Care is shaping up to be everything but affordable. With the masters of job creation, those who create do-nothing jobs, filling up the endless ranks of meaningless titles and bureaus that need to be staffed with incompetents and useful idiots, the costs of implementation are so astronomically over projected costs that the possibility of this becoming primarily a country with health care as its major product has already happened. The 15% of the economy figure may reach 50% or higher and the country will implode from the costs of caring for our people.

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  23. Skookum says: 22

    Bwax, keeping the capable welfare groups working has several positive features: we keep a demarcation of those who are wards of the state and those who are capable but out of work, it gives a measure of dignity to those with pride and hope, good things are accomplished in the community. So why is Obama against people on welfare working? It is the pride and hope for the future; if you destroy a man’s pride and hope, and keep him eating with Obama Chump Change, he owns you. Like Obama figures he owns the Black vote, the gay vote, and the entitled welfare classes, will this be sufficient to win a national election; I bet they are highly pissed they couldn’t slow the economy more to get more government dependence. Many of their initiatives like EPA regulations to strangle business have not kicked in yet, and Obamas welfare demographic won’t be fully realized until the end of 2013.

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  24. retire05 says: 23

    Sorry, but I think Romney hit the nail right on the head. There is a segment of our society that has been so demoralized that they will vote for anyone who promises to continue their enjoyment of taxpayer largess. They don’t want to work, they assume no responsibility for their sorry lot in life, and they feel they are owed being taken care of simply because they exist. They have literally become sheeple. But they still get to vote, and like goverment union workers, will alway vote in their best interest.

    Do we need government safety nets? No, not really. We, as a nation, managed to do quite well for 150 years without government safety nets. There were no government safety nets during the Great Depression or the Dust Bowl years, yet there exists no photographs of massive amounts of American citizens dying in the streets from lack of food or shelter. The government did not provide those people with housing, medical care, food stamps, etc. We had soup lines. End of story. But we did have then one thing that was taken over by the government and the policies of FDR and LBJ; private charities.

    Private charities, and religious charities, provided orphanages for homeless children, old folks homes and charity hospitals. But the American churches make a compact with the devil (FDR) to allow the government to take over the job that had always been designated to churches and philanthropists. As taxes on the wealthy increased, they no longer donated money to a charity hospital, or held fund raisers for an orphanage. Churches held on to the collection box money so they could build bigger, larger churches that resembled super markets. Even the Masonic orphanage that had a 90% college bound rate closed a few years back. There just weren’t enough donations to support it.

    We have been trained to think that only the government can take care of us, not private charity, and that living off the taxpayer largess is a “right”.

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  25. and OBAMA WITH HIS CREW MAKE MONEY OUT OF IT,
    DOES ANY ONE CHECK THE COURSE OF THOSE FOOD STAMPS FROM THE BEGINNING TILL THE END?
    WHO MAKE THOSE STAMPS? WHO IS DISTRIBUTING THEM? HOW MUCH THOSE GET TO MAKE THEM AND THE OTHER TO DISTRIBUTE IT AND LETS GO FURTHER ON THE RECIPIENTS AND THE BUSYNESS TAKING IT FOR CASH MONEY, HOW COME THEY DON’T GIVE MONEY INSTEAD OF FOOD STAMPS?
    WHY HUMILIATE THE PEOPLE IN NEED, LIKE THE TSA HUMILIATE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE,
    WHY NOT GIVE REAL MONEY INSTEAD OF FOOD STAMPS?
    WHICH IS THE SAME VALUE AS REAL MONEY OR IS IT? AND AT THE END OF IT WHO RECEIVE THOSE
    WHERE DO THEY GO ? ARE THEY USED AGAIN? BY THOSE AT THE END OF THE LINE?
    WHO IS RESPONSIBLE TO TAKE OUT THAT EXPANSE VALUE
    WHICH AMOUNT TO A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL COFFERS? WHO? TEL ME,
    TEL US AGAIN, AND WHY THE GOVERNMENT PUBLICIZE IT SO MUCH AS IF IT WAS A MARKETING PRODUCT?
    WHY MAKE FOOD STAMPS IF IT’S THE SAME AS MONEY?
    THAT IS A GOVERNMENT COVER UP.
    IT STARTED WITH A GENUINE DESIRE TO HELP, AND DEGENERATE IN A FRAUDULENT ENTITLEMENT
    ON THE BACK OF THE POOR, THINK COMMUNIST LONG ARMS,
    HOW DARE OBAMA ALLOW THE GOOD TOLERANT AMERICANS TO BE CONSTANTLY HUMILIATE, ON ALL FRONTS ,THINK HUMILIATE BY HATERS WHO KILL THE BRAVES, THINK BY THE OBAMA
    AGENCIES HUMILIATE THE BUSYNESS, THINK BY OBAMA HUMILIATE THE CONGRESS AND THE SENATE OF AMERICA, HUMILIATE THE WOMAN OF THIS NATION BY TELLING THEM HE WILL
    HELP THEM TO ABORT THEIR BABY while the illegals have 5 times more baby born on the dole of the AMERICANS INCLUDING THE AMERICAN WOMAN WHO ARE TOLD TO ABORT DECREASING THE GENETIC AMERICAN ROOTS, AND
    REPLACING IT BY FOREIGN BLOOD LINE, ENDANGERING THE ROOTS OF AMERICA, THINK HUMILIATE THE BUSYNESS WHO DON’T WANT THE UNIONS TO RUN THEIR BUSYNESS, HUMILIATE THE LATINOS BY TELLING THEM THE LIES OVER IMMIGRATION NON EXISTING PROGRAMS,
    HUMILIATE THE RELIGIONS BANNING THEM IN PLACES THEY HAD THE FREE SPEECH SINCE THE BIRTH OF THIS NATION,
    HOW DARE YOU OBAMA, TREAT THESE FINE AMERICANS IN A
    SO ARROGANTLY HATEFUL WAY,

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  26. FAITH7 says: 25

    jlfintx@13 My sentiment are the same as Skookum…#16

    I remember you comment regarding your Gracie…it’s very hard to loose such a loyal friend…I too wish I could do more…I am sorry for your troubles…I will pray for you and your family.

    I continue to pray and not lose my Faith and Belief that soon things will start to get better in many ways for my family and friends and for America – our beloved country.

    I don’t believe God has taken this Country this far just to hand her over to become a third world country….

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  27. liberal1(objectivity) says: 26

    France, Germany, and Britain (to a lesser degree) are socialist, but the are not totalitarian. Why is there such negative opinion among ultra-conservative of socialism? They are not always totalitarian. Russia and China may be consider totalitarian countries, but the are also totalitarian but they are not completely socialist or communist either—the take advantage of capitalistic principles where necessary. (It’s a global economy and economic systems do not operate in isolation.) The was a time when we could operate in relative isolation—but no more. Hence, there are no longer, and will not be—unless right-wing America takes over the world (like we used to rule world the economic world).

    But to answer the first question—why the ultra-right-wing are against socialism—I think the answer is because their belief that god will save those whose actions warrant it (therefore, they don’t have to be concerned). In giving to the Church, they prefer this avenue because the feel that they are helping spread the word of god (and thereby paving the way for their own salvation). Just think how hard it’s going to be to get into heaven then doing good is no longer tax deductible.

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  28. retire05 says: 27

    @liberal1(objectivity):

    Again, you make a concerted effort to show what a fool you are. You really seem to think that government, with all its bureacracy, can be more effective in “charity” than the private organizations can be. Then you mock religious organizations that do help those that need help because, in your narrow and small brain, they only do it becuause it helps them spread the word of God.

    Tell me, Socialist1, how does the Catholic Church know, when it takes in a new born, if that new born is going to be a Christian, or not? Where are the rules that churches never help anyone who doesn’t swear fealty to Christianity?

    You sing the praises of socialism, yet don’t admit that socialism is simply the bridge between capitalism and Communism. Maybe we should point out to you that Socialism/Communism seemed to be able to manage killing only those “poor” people whose lives it swore to make better.

    But I want TRUE equality. I want the NBA to be required to hire a 4’10” Asian girl to play for the Celtics. I want whites allowed to join the Congressional Black Caucus. I want blind people given jobs as school crossing guards and bus drivers. I want liberals forced to donate just as much to the RNC as they do to the DNC. I want the NFL required to hire as many females, no matter their height, weight or ability, as men. I want to see Mexican restraurants forced to hire just as many Anglos as they do Hispanics. I want Muslims forced to hire Jews.

    I am sure you would agree with all of that in since in your ideal socialist utopia, no one would be required to actually do a job they were hired to do.

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  29. Liberal 1 save your spit, you say ; ultra conservatives,
    why is that?
    THE CONSERVATIVE IS NOT LIKE OBAMA NAME THEM BY THOSE EXTRA ADJECTIVES ,
    THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO BELONG TO A PARTY WITH A CODE OF CONDUCT THAT IS HIGH IN
    THE SOCIETY AT LARGE ON EVERY ISSUES, COMPASSION IS ONE HIGHLY ACTIVE
    SINCE TIMES AND TIMES, EXCELLENCE IN CONDUCT IN LIBERTY INGRAINED IN THE CORE BY THE CONSTITUTION, QUEST TO REACH EXCELLENCE IN THEIR PROFESSION’S CHOICE,
    AND MORE OF LIKE SENSE OF KEEPING AND PROTECTING OTHER AMERICANS IN AS MANY WAYS THEY FIND, AND A TOLERANCE FOR OTHER WHO NEED AND STRUGGLE IN THEIR LIVES,
    BY GIVING THEM HELP WITH COUNSELING AND GENEROUS HELP INTO THEIR OWN COMMUNITY
    IS REMARKABLE, AND ALSO THE CONSERVATIVES ARE SHOWING GREAT ASPIRATION TO KNOWLEDGE TO REACH HIGHER GROUND IS EASILY NOTICE, IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE THE SMARTS OF SOCIETY LOOKING FURTHER THAN TODAY BUT ABLE TO SEE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE FUTURE THEY ARE THE CREATOR OF WEALTH IN THIS AMERICA
    YOU COULD NOT GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT THEM,
    AND GOD KNOWS THAT OBAMA TRIED AND FAIL BY HIMSELF

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  30. P Acosta says: 29

    @liberal1(objectivity): The real problem with socialism is that it destroys, productivity, it encourages corruption, it does away with accountability, it restricts individual freedom, it does away with initiatives, it rewards bad behavior, it punishes achievers, it lies about its objectives, and it worships the false prophet of government.
    And although the Western European countries have not yet degenerated into totalitarianism, they have a lot less freedoms and options than we have. Although sadly, the gap is closing between us and it is not because they are moving in the right direction.
    Even Lenin himself complained that Marx and Engel never addressed the economic aspects of their Utopian society. The answer to that is simple; there is no economic plan to make a socialist or Marxist society survive. The end game will always be chaos, anarchy and tyranny.
    In spite of all of its faults (and there will always be faults with all human creations), there simply isn’t a better system for men than freedom, and free markets are included among those freedoms. It was Marx who dubbed free markets Capitalism, and the leftist have been trying to make it a bad word ever since. The challenge for the left has always been the unmitigated failure and misery that their contrived elitists run economies have always turned out to be, filled with cronyism, corruption and suffocating controls.
    When I hear people like you express yourself, I have no doubt that many of you are well intentioned, but it saddens me to know that many of you have been educated to believe in fallacies and misconceptions taught to you by professors and scholars, whom like their leaders, are not capable of running a lemonade stand.
    There simply aren’t starting points from which anyone can begin to de-program someone who knows so many things that aren’t so, and the reason is clear. No one can be persuaded by anyone into seeking the truth that is strictly a self-growth proposition
    “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.” Mathew 13:13

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  31. P Acosta says: 30

    @retire05: One more thing, redistribution is the politically correct way to say stealing. Yet, one of the ten commandments is “Thou shalt not steal”. So where exactly is it written that governments are exempted from that action?

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  32. Greg says: 31

    @P Acosta:

    “Thou shalt not steal.”

    What about a financial system, an investment system, and a tax system configured to create the rapid upward redistribution of wealth that has been taking place in America over the past decade?

    Can anyone deny that the wealthiest have gotten much wealthier, while the middle class and working class have struggled just to hold their ground, or have slipped backward?

    Is rigging the game in favor of the biggest and most successful players not stealing?

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  33. P Acosta says: 32

    @Greg: There will be corruption always, and it should be our government’s role to bring the corrupt to justice. But our biggest problem is that our government is acting more like a co-conspirator, than an arbiter. And on this we the electorate are responsible, since many of our corrupt politicians, whom everyone in their districts know are corrupt, keep getting re-elected again and again.
    This is largely due to lax moral standards that our society has come to accept. There was a time when if a politician was caught doing anything illegal or immoral, his carrere was over, and he himself would resign in shame. Today in many circles, these acts are viewed as a resume enhancement, and even after impeachment, the politicians refuse to go away.

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  34. Redteam says: 33

    @retire05: Retire05, very good message to liberal1, though you left out “you can’t fix stupid”
    ignorance; maybe, but in the case of Lib1, it’s a severe case of stupid you’re dealing with.

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  35. Redteam says: 34

    @Greg:

    Can anyone deny that the wealthiest have gotten much wealthier,

    absolutely. In real dollars, there are no more really rich people in the USA than there ever have been. Russia has created many more super rich vs poor than the US has.(I guess it’s the Republicans running Russia?) Saudi Arabia has many super rich and the poor there are much better off than in the US. The only thing hurting the economy and plight of the poor in the US is that the government is doing all they can to destroy business and confiscate their earnings so they can’t re-invest it and create more jobs. Once businessmen (investors) are turned loose so they can invest their money to create jobs, the numbers on welfare will decrease. It does a rich man no good to have money he can’t invest in anything. Most of them buy more business’s and continue to grow them as long as there is an incentive to do so. This used to be called “The American Way”

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  36. Redteam says: 35

    @P Acosta: ,

    and even after impeachment, the politicians refuse to go away.

    The best example of this, of course, being Willie Clinton, that known rapist, intern abuser, lying under oath, former Empty Chair occupier. (Most admired by Dimocrats)

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  37. Greg says: 36

    Your opinion of Bill Clinton does not represent that of the majority.

    Bill Clinton’s Popularity at Record High

    Clinton is viewed favorably by men, women, whites, and nonwhites, and across all major age groups, Gallup noted. He also has wide support among independents and, while Republicans are not onboard the Clinton bandwagon, they narrowly missed it. Republicans view the former president more unfavorably than favorably by a 50 percent to 44 percent margin.

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  38. GREG WHY IS IT THE WEALTHIEST HAS BECOME WEALTHIER,
    IT DID NOT OCCUR TO YOU THAT THE WEALTHIEST ARE NOT THE ONE WHO ALLOW ILLEGALS TO COME HERE BY THE MILLIONS, AND WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY LIVE? WELL THEY TAKE THE HOMES
    OF THE TRUE AMERICANS WHO MOVE OUT BY THE THREATS OF THE ILLEGALS ON THEIR STREETS SELLING DRUGS, SO TO BRING ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SPENDING FOR THE AMERICANS MIDDLE CLASS,
    THAT IS ONLY ONE EXAMPLE, AMONG MANY OTHER
    AND THE WEALTHIER SAVE THEIR WEALTH IN TIMES WHERE THE GOVERNMENT TRY TO TAKE WHAT BELONG TO THEM TO REDISTRIBUTE TO OTHER NOT EARNING IT, SO THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THE EMPLOYEES ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR JOBS AND DON’T NEED THE UNIONS TO GET THEM IN THE COMPANY AND TELL THE COMPANY HOW MUCH THEY SHOULD PAY,
    THIS GOVERNMENT IS RUN LIKE THE UNION RUN THE BUSYNESS, OBAMA LOVE THEM AND AGREE WITH THEIR MENTALITY AND HE APPLY IT ON THE GOVERNMENT ISSUE AND GET HIS AGENCIES TO GO AND FORCE THAT GOVERNING ON THE THROAT OF BUSYNESS, THAT IS CALL COMMUNIST
    IMPOSITION ON THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA,
    IT WILL NEVER WORK, THE AMERICANS HATE THE COMMUNIST AGENDA, THEY ARE CAPITALIST AND WORK HARD TO CREATE AND BUILD THEIR BUSYNESS, AND NO OBAMA AND CREW WILL NEVER BE ALLOW TO CHANGE AMERICA, AND AS TOLERANT AS THE PEOPLE ARE, OBAMA
    YOU BETTER NOT PUSH FURTHER, THAN THEY HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO,

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  39. @Greg: #36

    So here’s one opinion: That is pathetic.

    I’ve known individuals who ‘partied’ with Slick Willie before and during his WH days. His real opinion of women is disgusting. How he treated them is disgusting. He preyed on the weakest ones. The truth will never surface, but he pretends well, lies well, and too many who have evidently little capacity for insight, support him. Good luck with that lack of intuition.

    And that is before we discuss his proclivity to make deals with thieves and dictators. His own capacity for corruption has known no bounds. The media has given him a pass on most of his international improprieties. Go do your homework on how his foundation has been funded and who key players were in that game.

    I could care less what else he does with the rest of his life. Even if he donated to Mother Theresa, nothing balances or makes up for his mental impairment. Perhaps history will define him as lacking conscience – there’s a term for that.

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  40. P Acosta says: 39

    @Redteam: I can’t keep up with what you are saying; it seems to me that you are all over the place, but to your point about… “Can anyone deny that the wealthiest have gotten much wealthier, blah, blah, blah?” I would simply respond “Can you prove that the wealthiest have gotten much wealthier and that the so called wealthy are the same people all along?”
    You see the whole problem with the class warfare nonsense is that it assumes that we are stuck in some sort of class from which none of us can ever escape, it assumes that “the wealthy” are always the same people, and that the “poor” are always the same as well. In America that is simply not true, that is left wing gibberish, I don’t know your political persuasion and frankly I don’t care, but I can tell that your thinking has been influenced by the poison in the air.
    In America anyone can achieve whatever they set their heart to achieve and no one is stuck in any stage of life, unless you are too lazy to pick yourself up by the bootstraps and go to work. I know it is hard for many of us to do that now, but that is because many opportunistic politicians wanted that way, they see on the dependents, an electorate they can depend on. But that is not America and I can prove it.
    In America a half black, half white, bastard son of a dope-smoking loose woman was born and raised by the head of the communist party in Hawaii, who also happened to be a pornographer and a pedophile. This young boy grew up, and chose to associate himself with terrorist and radical anti-American elements that openly promote violent revolution, anarchy and to fundamentally change the principles upon which our nation was founded.
    This young lad attended some of the most expensive and hardest to get into universities in the country, even though that by his own admission he spent his high school years smoking dope and doing blow. He worked as a community rebel rouser and travelled the world with an unknown passport, even though he supposedly had no money. He has a Connecticut social security number, even though he never lived there, he is referred to as brilliant, but his school records are sealed, and was converted from Islam to Christianity by a hate-mongering communist preacher whose church he attended to for twenty five years, but never heard what he was saying.
    And yet! Today this guy is the president of the United States of America, the most powerful man in the world.
    So are you seriously going to sit there and try to sell me this class warfare garbage after these incredible rags to riches American tale? …Sorry, But I am not buying it!!!

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  41. Greg says: 40

    @P Acosta, #39:

    So are you seriously going to sit there and try to sell me this class warfare garbage after these incredible rags to riches American tale?

    What I’m suggesting is that if you let the wealthiest write the rules, the rules will favor the wealthiest.

    The results are observable. Wealth concentrates at the top. One way to conceal this is by running up debt. That will work for a while.

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  42. P Acosta
    HI,
    I THINK THERE IS AN ERROR, Redteam is on our side for sure, he only answer to GREG
    WHICH IS THE ONE ON THE DARK SIDE OF Redteam answer,
    so your comment should have been to GREG,

    I DID THE SAME ERROR ONCE,AND IT HAPPEN WHEN THEY REPEAT THE OTHER’S COMMENT OR PART OF IT BEFORE ANSWERING TO IT,
    AND IT’S EASY TO MAKE A MISTAKE.
    BYE
    BY THE WAY YOUR COMMENT IS SPOT ON AND GREG DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIS COMMENT
    ON YOUR TARGET

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  43. P Acosta says: 42

    @ilovebeeswarzone: you are correct, the reply was not meant for Redteam.

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  44. Redteam says: 43

    @Greg:

    Clinton is viewed favorably by men, women, whites, and nonwhites,

    He sure doesn’t impress me. I find it hard to admire a person that has raped several women. There are better role models for me. Apparently Dimocrats and news media have no standards.

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  45. Redteam says: 44

    @P Acosta:

    I can’t keep up with what you are saying;

    I see where you intended the comment for Greg. I agree with your comment

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  46. Redteam says: 45

    @James Raider:

    Perhaps history will define him as lacking conscience – there’s a term for that.

    and that term is psychopath: In ENGLISH, it basically means a dangerous person without a conscience, and is often highly skilled at lying and charming and at faking the emotions they lack. A psychopath knows exactly what he’s doing, but he just doesn’t care. That’s why insanity pleas don’t work with psychopaths. They aren’t crazy; in fact they are usually extremely intelligent.

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  47. @Redteam: #45,

    I’d give him the benefit of the doubt and stop at the ‘sociopath’ door. Regardless, he’s intelligent, and has no conscience. Lying is a walk in the park. Whatever his self-centeredness wishes and desires, he will do, say, promise, and enact.

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  48. Redteam
    you know, I think it’s the drug they have absorb to an amount that affect the brain and reduce the inner
    part of awareness on right or wrong, I mean desensitize the part that tell yes or no,do or don’t,
    and he has been shown to get into a rage uncontrolled yelling that we know maybe more of it, so it prove the point of the lack of self control unless they are on tranquilizer before meeting the public,
    but it degenerate faster after they get to the age of the breaking point, that’s when the insanity become more accute and without measure,
    bye

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  49. Redteam says: 48

    @ilovebeeswarzone:

    I think it’s the drug they have absorb to an amount that affect the brain and reduce the inner
    part of awareness on right or wrong

    I think you are probably correct. If so, EC (empty chair) will go down a lot faster than slick willie, he’s a lot bigger dopehead.

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