Romney Doesn’t Trust Obama…Do You Blame Him?

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Who in their right mind would believe Obama and pals?

“Thanks for the note” — but no thanks.

That was the response Friday from the Romney team after Obama’s campaign manager tried once again to wrench more tax documents from the Republican president candidate, this time by offering to refrain from criticizing Mitt Romney’s transparency if he agrees to release five more years of returns.

Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades wrote a brief email to Obama campaign manager Jim Messina dismissing the offer.

“Thanks for the note. It is clear that President Obama wants nothing more than to talk about Governor Romney’s tax returns instead of the issues that matter to voters, like putting Americans back to work, fixing the economy and reining in spending,” he wrote. “If Governor Romney’s tax returns are the core message of your campaign, there will be ample time for President Obama to discuss them over the next 81 days.”

This is one of those head slap moments. Obama wants Romney to release more tax records and they double pinkie promise not to bring up his taxes anymore.

I’m sure after scouring his taxes they will all of sudden say ‘Hey! I guess Romney DID pay his fair share. We’ll actually talk about my failed economy now’

Unbelievable.

This is just another failed attempt at keeping the narrative away from the real issues.

But I have an idea. How about they offer to release the tax records if Obama releases his college records? Think they would go for it?

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/17/obama-camp-offers-to-pull-back-on-tax-attacks-if-romney-releases-5-years/#ixzz23oXgcNjq

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Here is an idea obama, release the college transcripts, the selective service records, the immigration records of his mother landing in Hawaii, a non forged birth certificate, passport records, health records, social security records.

Not only NO but HELL NO!! First of all the 0blama team has lied to America on jobs, Solydra, shovel ready, economic stimulation, and Fast and Furious. 0blama is desperate because he can NOT have a serious discussion about the issues because he has failed. 0blama lied and jobs died!! Tax returns are a non issue to America.

I don’t understand the failure to make the offer to release the tax records for the college records. It amazes me how timid republicans are when it comes to confrontations with democrats. I would be at their throats 24/7. I would hit them with everything I could come up with until they cried uncle.

The Obama team’s offer “to refrain from criticizing Mitt Romney’s transparency if he agrees to release five more years of returns,” is NOT the same as their “double pinkie promise not to bring up his taxes anymore. ”
Their ”promise” has only to do with demanding more years’ worth of tax forms.
Going through the 7 they’d then have, with a fine-toothed comb, would occur with a vengence.

How many of us has had a windfall or a bonus or even a gambling win and had to talk to the tax preparer about what the best way is to AVOID as many taxes as LEGALLY possible?
Gee, it is amazing how a couple hundred extra thousand dollars one time can turn even the furthest Left relative into a Scrooge, using a jewelers’ loop and green visor to pour over the tax laws looking for EVERY possible LEGAL deduction!

So, Romney probably has his own accountant, tax man on retainer.
I bet he gets that same instruction.

After all, years ago, under Bush, the Democrats tried to push for people to pay more taxes to lower the national debt.
Some states made it easy.
Just write in how much EXTRA you cared to pay toward the national debt, and include it in your check!
Not many took them up on it.
In fact, news articles looked into it and found many rich Dems did EVERYTHING they could LEGALLY do to lower their tax bills!

Obama is actually trying to use the Ad Hominem Tu Quoque fallacy of logic.
But it backfires (IF he ever gets those extra tax forms in a manner he can release their contents).
The news media has already published dozens of cases of Dems paying less than they could have…..and that includes Obama!

PS, Obama’s BROTHER has a son.
That child needed surgery.
Dad couldn’t afford it.
President Obama didn’t even offer to help.
Denesh DeSousa sent the man (who he interviewed for his movie, 2016) the money he needed.
Sad, it could have been a write-off for Obama, the pres.

Perhaps Romney’s campaign manager should send Matt Rhodes a note. Romney could ask Obama to explain the lack of payment in property taxes for two years while he was an Illinois state senator, although he and Michelle owned a very nice condominium and that those taxes were not paid until he sold the condo to purchase (with the help of Tony Rezko) a tony Chicago Georgian mansion.

Or perhaps the Romney campaign could ask Obama was he was such a piker when it came to charitable contributions. Maybe asked Obama why, if he believes in spreading the wealth, all those people (editors, printers, truck drivers, book store clerks) who helped make his book sales possible (remember, he didn’t get there by himself) didn’t get a share of the millions of dollars Obama enjoyed from those books?

Or why George Obama, Barack’s 1/2 brother, lives in squalor and has to appeal to others to help pay Obama’s nephew’s medical bills, or why George was denied a visa to visit his mother who lives in Georgia, considering Obama has an aunt, and an uncle, who are here illegally but have not been deported. Oh, that’s right, Auntie may be an illegal, who was ordered to deport, but she is not asking Obama for any money since she is feasting at the taxpayer teat in Massachussets.

It is beyond my comprehension how any adult, with an I.Q. over 60, can support Obama.

If there were a problem with Romney’s taxes the IRS would have gone after him about it a long time ago, especially under this administration which is already using government agencies to harass political opponents.

The purpose in fishing for this personal information is two-fold:

1. If the returns are not released, they can play the innuendo game; weak, but it’s all they’ve got.

2. If the returns are released, they will go through them with a fine-tooth comb looking for additional persons and organizations to harass, intimidate, and villify. They’re leftists. It’s what they do.

And that “release five years worth and we’ll drop it” gambit? They lie. It will never stop. Giving the back of the hand to this idiotic game of Simon Says is the only correct response.

@mike norred: Mike a reasonable request but then it makes Romney look like he’s playing in the dirt just like 0-bama. I believe one of the best positions for Romney is to take the high road and be presidential. On the other hand 0blama has not acted Presidential ever!! This is a winning strategy for Romney.

I don’t blame MITT FOR NOT TRUSTING OBAMA,
who in their right mind would trust a man who never deliver demands to produce his birth certificate,
instead of fraudulent certificate, along with other fact to tell his real self to tell of any ability to get the top job, nothing except he drugged himself to sleep with his friends,
beside he is a sleazy operator, he goes around the law of the land and sign his own executive laws against the congress will.
and against the military leadership.

How can Romney/Ryan be trusted—or any other Republican—when they continue to tell lies, like $700+ billion raiding of Medicare by Obama. In actuality, those are savings in the program by the elimination of fraud and duplicity in the system—and Republicans in the know realize that their party is lying for political gain. Actually, Romney and Ryan are enacting the same cuts in Medicare, except they use this money to decrease taxes for the wealthy—whereas Obama but those saving back into the Medicare program.

@Wm T Sherman, #6:

If there were a problem with Romney’s taxes the IRS would have gone after him about it a long time ago, especially under this administration which is already using government agencies to harass political opponents.

Are you familiar with the IRS amnesty program that was in effect during a number of the years in question? It made it possible for people to avoid criminal prosecution for tax evasion by coming clean and paying up. Of course, the amount that such a person had to pay was negotiable. The IRS’s guiding logic was that getting something was better than getting nothing.

Liberal1[objectivity]
you describe OBAMA lies all over, shame on you to incite the good PEOPLE
SO TO BELIEVE THE BIG LIAR SINCE HE WAS PUT IN POWER,
YOU ARE AS EVIL

@Liberal1 (objectivity): Wrong as usual. Show me where there is $700 billion in savings as related to fraud and abuse. I will wait for your proof. Also as a matter of trust, now can you trust 0-bama when he said he would cut the deficit in half, create jobs and the unemployment rate would be under 6% at this time, spend over $730 billion on “shovel ready” projects. When it comes to trust, your black messiah HAS proven he can NOT be trusted!!

GREG
what’s good about amnisty/ if it cost the person 50,000 dollars and plus depending on the case,
I remember when DONALD BLY MENTIONED ABOUT HIS FATHER LOOSING HIS RANCH FOR BEING ACCUSED UNJUSTLY OF OWING THE IRS A LOT OF MONEY, WHERE WAS THE AMNESTY?
HE DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN.
AND THE OTHER PERSON WHO WAS CLEANED UP, HOUSE EMPTY ON HIS RETURN HOME, IRS AT WORK,
HE HAD HIS OWN BUSYNESS OF SELLING PAPER ON A CORNER, HIS FRIEND TOLD US, HE LOST HIS WIFE,
HE LEFT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEVER BEEN SEEN AGAIN OR HEARD OF, HIS FRIEND SAID HE WAS A GOOD MAN ALWAYS READY TO HELP OTHER AROUND HIM. WHAT KIND OF AMNISTY SHOULD HE ASK TO HELP HIM?

COMMON SENSE There’s that “black messiah” again . At the least you could put it in CAPS. LOL
Mitt asked potential veeps to show him tax returns.What looks worse, hiding tax returns or college transcripts? Release them, and burn BHO.

@Richard Wheeler: Can’t seem to slip that one by you. You must admit I have reduced the number of applications though. Stay cool up there, pretty hot down our way!!

Damn Romney keeps niggerizing this election.

The Black Messiah vs. The Corporate Prophet . . . Maybe we could promote the November election like a boxing match.

Greg I like it, though more WWF or UFC. Linda McMahon can ref. if she can spare the time from her attempted purchase of a Senatorial seat in Conn.

Obama, Feb 23, 2009; “I will cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term”.

The end of his first term is nearly here, and as of this point in time for this year, there is already $1Trillion in deficits. It will not happen. Remember, this speech was also made near the same time frame that Obama was discussing the Stimulus.

Three and a half years later, the end of the year deficits for the federal government have topped well over $1 Trillion.

This isn’t a campaign promise unkept. This was a promise to the American people overall of what he would do. He hasn’t done so. Hasn’t even tried to do so.

How can anyone trust what Obama says?

Anyone who does is a naive fool.

@Richard Wheeler: I still think we should go back to the concept of dueling. The others are way too commercialized.

Funny I’ve read Obumbles made a lot of his $$ from his book sales….that he didn’t write personally…someone else wrote them for him.

How the hell does this guy stand on a podium and preach to the Small Businesses that “they didn’t build ‘their’ own business????” [Obama: “If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that… ” rhetoric]…

This coming from a guy who made millions by ” NOT WRITING HIS OWN BOOKS !?!?”

Mr Obama: “You didn’t write that!?!”

Again – Congressman Joe Wilson was right all along – YOU LIE!!!!! [and unfortunately he as vilified for the TRUTH, not to mention seeing through Obama’s Bull Crap from the get-go].

No, – Americans were fooled once… many were conned into the “Hope and Change” b/s… Now there is neither of these…No Hope and the Change for so many Americans has been dismal…

Romney is correct – to NOT TRUST Obumbles…

American’s are correct – to NOT TRUST Obumbles… He has been lying since 2008! And has been getting a ‘pass’ since 2008….

FAITH7
YES he was given a pass, and by the PEOPLE,
THE MEDIA HAS SOLD HIM AS NOT AN ABLE PERSON, NO ,
THEY SOLD HIM AS A FIRST BLACK MAN TO BECOME PRESIDENT,
THEY HAD TINGLE IN THEIR LEGS SO EAGER TO WIN THE BLACKS AND THE WHITES,
THEY ADDRESS THEIR SALES PITCH ON ONLY THAT, AND EXITED THE BLACKS TO A POINT OF COLLECTIVE HYSTERIA WHICH OF COURSE BROUGHT THE WHITES IN THE CABAL, IT WAS EXHILARATING FOR THEM THE YOUNG HAVING A SO MUCH HIGH EXCITEMENT, IT WAS EVEN A SEXUAL AFFAIR FROM A CROWD CHANTING LIKE AN EVIL POSSESSED MOB, AND THE ADULTS WHERE TAKEN IN BY THE MEDIA, WHICH WORKED SO HARD TO FEED THE MOVEMENT.
IT WAS INSANE TO LOOK AT. THEY DIDN’T WANT A WORTHY PRESIDENT, THEY HAD LEFT GOD AND REPLACED HIM WITH OBAMA

@Common Sense: Ultra-righties live in a cocoon of extreme right-wing politics—hence they are not aware of the latest facts all over the news. It becomes impossible to prove anything to them, for they will always question the source—ipso-facto, they will not believe anything that doesn’t have the conservative stamp of approval. Here’s my evidence:

“FACT CHECK: Obama, Ryan, Romney Backed Medicare Cuts

One way or another, Barack Obama, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney all have supported the $700 billion in cuts to Medicare spending now in place under the Affordable Care Act.
Those Medicare savings -achieved through reduced provider reimbursements and curbed waste, fraud and abuse, not benefit cuts – appear in the House Republicans’ FY 2013 budget, which Ryan authored.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/fact-check-obama-ryan-romney-backed-medicare-cuts/

The difference between Obama’s plan and his opponents is that Obama would apply to ACA, while Romney/Ryan—who plan on repealing the ACA—would filter them into paying for tax cuts for the upper class so these tax benefits are not reflected in the deficit.

Now since this quote comes from the MSM, I’m sure you’re not going to believe it. But, if you’d do a little investigation on your own on the web, I’m also sure you can find out the truth—regardless of how much it hurts.

Correction:@FAITH7: I don’t believe it. Your still taking that line out of context.

Yea, and I am suppose to also “believe” when Romney says [twice] in a speech that Obama is “Angry” it is [white] “Code” for Nigger – as some idiot in the Media [Toure] with all his “insight” can read so well into a word and just “knows” this is white code….it’s laughable!!…And once again a black man is touting “Racism” on national TV – but now we are making up words – like “Niggerization” And I could care less if I spelled the idiots name wrong!!

Give me and America a break!!!!!!

No Liberal I do not believe Obumbles meant anything other than what he said….and plenty of others heard it the same context..

Obumbles hate for business defines his statements… he made Newark Mayor Cory Booker back track real fast on HIS [positive] statement….to the point Cory will probably not utter another word about the Markets let alone economics…. I just ask Why? – why was he made to back track on his statement?

@Bees#22 – You are so right bees – So many – Average voters – were swept up in a [ false ] euphoria of a Black man becoming President of the United States they didn’t bother to stop and think if he would actually be a good leader for the Free World… I could have been happy with several other black men whom I believe has more substance and fortitude then this incompetent in “our” White House.

I guess this is the old adage be careful what you wish for….

The Left and the commie Progressives WANT God out of our lives because they, in their twisted ideology want people to look at Government as their God… They fail to realize what Government “gives” people, that same Government can also take what has been ‘given’ away…. Which is why self reliance and personal responsibility is so important.

Bees the TRUTH – Never Lies…. which is why the Left gets caught in so many of them [Lies].

America needs to WAKE UP!!

Enjoy the Day Bees!!

@FAITH7: I agree with what happened the last Presidential Election Cycle. It had nothing to do with 0blama being Black then and it doesn’t now. The race stuff is a strategy that will not work with 0blama this time around. I also believe that the Democrat Strategy last cycle was very focused on the blam Bush approach and therefore intimidated Republicans from defense of their platform. Once again 0blama has tried to apply this now and it will NOT work. The failed economy is his fault. Finally 0blama can not scare the elderly with the entitlement take away strategy. Actually with Ryan on the ticket, America is now finally beginning to talk about the REAL issues facing our nation. This spells big trouble for 0blama and that’s why he has gone so negative so fast. Republicans have taken away the Democrats toilet bowl brush early and will now beat them up with it!! It’s good for America to finally see how 0blama and his socialist experiment have failed our country.

@Liberal1 (objectivity): Fact is 0blama told America that unemployment would be below 6% at this time. Fact is he lied!! Fact is there was NO such think as “shovel ready projects”, fact is he lied!! Fact is 0blama has NOT bailed out the auto business and GM. Fact is he wasted $780 billion with nothing to show for it. Fact is that 0-bamacare will raid Medicare and impact Seniors NOW. Fact is the Romney-Ryan pland does NOT impact Seniors above 55!! Fact is you need to put down the Kool Aid and get a grip on reality. It’s not a right-wing thing as you say but an American thing. Fact is 0blama socialist experiment has failed and the reality proves it!!

@Common Sense: The fact is that none of your most recent comments have anything to do with my initial argument. I’ve prove my argument by affording evidence that if you want to say Obama is raiding Medicare, you also have say Romney/Ryan are raiding it also—since they are doing the same thing, and you haven’t rebutted it. You are just yelling about right-wing nonsense, that could be argued too, but it would be a waste of time because people like you would just deny the facts. That’s why you can’t win a argument with righties—because they don’t know what a fact is. The fact is that you just listen to right-wing politicians and repeat what they say, without doing any independent research for yourself to find the truth. But that’s the ultra-conservative way—not the American way.

Liberal1[objectivity
you take your facts from the liberals and the CONSERVATIVES TAKE THEIR FACTS
DIRECTLY FROM THE SOURCE,
MEANING YOUR FACTS ARE FULL OF BULLSHIT AS ALWAYS, TOO BAD FOR YOU THAT YOU MINGLE WITH THE LIARS FROM THE LEFT.

Actually, it’s true. Ryan’s budget really does include $700 billion in Medicaid spending reductions. The difference is that while the Affordable Health Care Act shifts that money into another area of health care, Ryan’s budget shifts it to the deficit reduction column, and then wipes out any actual deficit reduction by increasing Defense spending by around a trillion dollars.

The republican PAC ads about Obama’s Medicare reductions are very misleading. Those reductions don’t directly cut any current Medicare covered services. The republican option is a voucher plan, and dealing with private insurance companies that would have many of the new customer-friendly regulations eliminated.

GREG THAT ROMNEY RYAN PLAN IS SUPER SMART, BY INCREASING THE MILITARY SPENDING,
DON’T YOU SEE AND CARE, THEY ARE BEING SHOT BY THOSE THEY HAVE TAUGHT TO SHOOT,
THEY MUST BE INCREASED YES, THEIR LIVES MEAN MORE THAN THE TRILLIONS,
AND OBAMA SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE RAISING THE DEBT CEILING,
WITH HIS NON AMERICAN NEEDED SPENDING SPREE, IT’S STILL WAR TIME AND TIME TO SAVE NOT TO SPEND UNTIL AFTER THE WAR, AND KEEP EXTRA MONEY JUST TO SUPPLY MILITARY ACTIONS WHEN THEY NEED IT, THAT IS RIGHT NOW,
THEN WHEN THE WAR IS WON THEY WILL COME BACK VICTORIOUS AND YOU AND OBAMA CAN SPEND ON THE GIANT PARADE AND JOYFUL EVENT TO CELEBRATE THEIR EFFORTS,
AND HONOR THE DEAD MILITARY PROPERLY AS THEY DESERVE
THAT’S THE PROPER WAY TO DO.