Upside Down Land

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You know you live in upside-down land if:

* You can get arrested for expired tags on your car, but not for being in this country illegally.

* Your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more it doesn’t have.

* The Supreme Court of the United States can rule that lower courts cannot display the 10 Commandments in their courtroom while sitting in front of a display of the 10 Commandments.

* Children are forcibly removed from parents who appropriately discipline them while children of “underprivileged” drug addicts are left to rot in filth infested cesspools.

* Working class Americans pay for their own health care (and the health are of everyone else) while unmarried women are free to have child after child on the “State’s” dime while never being held responsible for their own choices.

* Hard work and success are rewarded with higher taxes and government intrusion, while slothful, lazy behavior is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks, Medicaid, and subsidized housing.

* The government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide 99 weeks of unemployed checks (to not work).

* Politicians think that stripping away the amendments to the Constitution is really protecting the rights of the people.

* The rights of the government come before the rights of the individual.

* Parents believe the State is responsible for providing for their children.

* You pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big screen TV while your neighbor defaults on his mortgage (while buying iPhones, flat-screen TVs, and new cars) and the government forgives his debt and reduces his mortgage (with your tax dollars).

* Being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you “safe.”

* You have to have your parents signature to go on a school field trip but not to get an abortion.

* An 80-year old woman can be stripped searched by the TSA but a Muslim woman in a burqa is only subject to having her neck and head searched.

* The government sends its troops to war, but won’t let them return fire on the enemy out of courtesy to the surrounding civilians being used as shields.

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You can be arrested for being in the country illegally, but the Governor of Arizona doesn’t have the Constitutional authority to decide who gets arrested.

CJ
that is super, a real way to describe the situation of the today AMERICA GOVERNMENT,
they have risen to the deepest fall ever seen, since the BIRTH OF THE NATION.
VERY TROUBLING SITUATION IS IN IT?
this next FALL season will see the fall of this situation into the debt so deep
to never return. being replace by the normal brain to clean up the mess left behind
bye

This was posted on our local Topix forum Friday. Most folks were kinda pizzed that it was thrown in their faces. LOL

http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/outreach/toolkits/2011/basics.html#content-top
On Food Stamps (SNAP)

Every $5 in new SNAP benefits generates a total of $9.20 in community spending.

Only it isn’t true.
If it were true, putting EVERYBODY on Food Stamps would be great for the economy!
But…..
Imagine an economy that produces 100 apples.
If 10 of those apples are given to people with food stamps, then people who otherwise would have had those 10 apples are now worse off.
The stimulus of 10 apples through food stamps is exactly offset by the destimulus of 10 apples for those people from whom the 10 apples were taken.
But it gets worse.
See, the government is massively inefficient when it comes to transferring resources.
They EAT some of those apples in the process.
So raising food stamp participation increases the tax burden on other Americans.
Those Americans forced to pay higher taxes to finance increased food stamp usage have less income to spend on goods and services, which depresses economic activity.

I say, Go Galt!

I always thought that somewhere along the ladder of the production of those STAMPS,
there was someone making money from the production of those STAMPS,
It cannot be otherwise, and who might it be those getting richs outrageously, whyle giving the image of being charitable?
it would be cheaper to use the real money and give it as it is, but NO THEY HAVE REPLACE THE REAL MONEY, and they have employed government people just for those stamps add it up on that stairway alone
made up specially for that kind of money, and how much does millions of stamps cost the taxpayer, it is a disguise in itself, and there is more add it up yourself from another ladder being at the end of the one who receive the last stamp, the stores which ever they are getting paid,
this is not right, and hidden to be the real scandalous find coming out like exploding in the taxpayer faces,
anytimes

Really, Greg are you that dense and stupid? What does a Govenor have to do with State laws. Or the 10th admendment.. Oh wait, enforcing those… Who ever told you were an intellectual was clearly a liar just to get you to feel good.

-Smoking and drinking while pregnant is bad and you will be shamed for it, however, if that baby annoys you, please feel free to have it killed

-LE has the right to ask for ID, that is unless you look Hispanic, then it’s profiling

-Single cell found in space, LIFE!……Multiple cells in the form of a human being in a womans womb, just a blob of tissue and you can kill it if it annoys you

-Islamist kills dozens overseas…..terrorist……Islamist kills dozens in the U.S…..workplace violence

It is an unnessessary financial burden to require a voter to have a valid ID, but it doesn’t appear to be a burden when the poor are applying for welfare or food stamps.

@Greg:

but the Governor of Arizona doesn’t have the Constitutional authority to decide who gets arrested.

Please show us where in Arizona’s law it gives the Governor that power.

johngalt
why not, she is the GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA, AND WHAT IS SHE SUPPOSE TO DO
WITH THE ILLEGALS AND CRIMINAL?
WAIT FOR OBAMA USELESS ACTIONS OR NONE AT ALL?
DAMN YES SHE HAS POWER TO HAVE JUSTICE WORK IN HER STATE,
SHE CARE FOR HER CITIZENS PEACE MORE THAN OTHER DEMOCRAT STATES LIKE CHICAGO WHO TURN THEIR HEAD THE OTHER WAY AND ALLOW CRIME TO GROW OUT OF CONTROL, AS IT IS NOW,
THE SOUTHERN DON’T LIKE THAT CRIMINALIZATION OF THEIR STATES,
THEY ARE THE CONSERVATIVES WHO CARE FOR THEIR PEOPLE FIRST,

@Sua Sponte:

One more:
Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel to gang bangers in his city: leave the children alone.
BUT…..
Rahm Emanuel on abortion: Voted NO on “Allocating fines and/or up to one year imprisonment of those convicted of transporting a minor over state lines to have an abortion.”
Voted NO on “Penalizing doctors who knowingly perform an abortion procedure without obtaining reasonable proof that the notification provisions of the minor’s home state have been satisfied.”
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00748:
http://www.ontheissues.org/HouseVote/Party_2005-144.htm

@Nan G: No doubt…..Libs/Dems are always screaming “it’s for the children”…….unfortunately, the children can’t speak for themselves…..Otherwise they let them know not to speak for them…

-Eventhough there’s a specific amendment in the bill of rights to own a gun….you don’t have the right to own a gun

-Eventhough there’s not one single word in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, or any other document of this country that mentions abortion……you’re right to have one at any time, for any reason, is an absolute and can never be denied for any reason….

-Using taxpayer dollars to forcibly indoctrinate children into marxism, socialism, atheism, self-worship = Education

-Offering a child a New Testament which they are free to accept or reject = forcing your viewpoint on children

You can be arrested for expired tags? Of course you can. you can drive 60 mph down our crowded Main street endangering everyone in sight and it will cost you $150.00 plus a couple of points. But, get caught without the proof of insurance ticket in your glove box (even if you have insurance) and it will cost you $450.00. Crimes against the bureaucracy have always been more serious than crimes against public safety.

Sua Sponte

Wins the thread, twice. Those should be appended to the main post. At the top.

* Working class Americans pay for their own health care (and the health are of everyone else) while unmarried women are free to have child after child on the “State’s” dime while never being held responsible for their own choices.

Return of the ‘Welfare Queen’

@Choey, #14:

Hey, if you drive without insurance, total my car, and put me in the hospital, we’re not talking about a “crime against bureaucracy.”

Nor are we if you weren’t carrying health insurance either, and run up a $100,000 hospital bill because you were injured in the same crash. On top of everything else, I’ll be paying higher medical costs to subsidize someone who didn’t bother to buy health insurance.

I have absolutely no problem with laws that prevent that sort of thing from happening.

You know you live in upside down land if * your commander in chief is a chronic LIAR; but everyone who points it out is vilified by some lower case dreg*

@Greg,

If you think that the law forcing people to have health insurance will work, then why do I pay for an uninsured motorist policy rider on my car insurance?

15% of people have no health insurance. In CA, it is estimated 15% have no car insurance… yet it is required… hmmm?

-Burning the U.S. Flag is acceptable because it’s just a piece of cloth that doesn’t mean anything…
-Displaying a Confederate flag is unacceptable because it’s a symbol of hatred….

-People who oppose same sex marriage and abortion are forcing their religious morality on us…
-People who want taxpayer funded abortions, force businesses to participate in same sex marriage…Not forcing morality on anyone…

-Barrack Obama should not be judged by the church he went to….
-Mitt Romney should be judged by the church he goes to….

@Sua Sponte:

Three very good points of observation.

Sua Sponte
what do you mean burning the FLAG IS ACCEPTABLE?
I think it mean an ennemie of this UNITED STATES, NOT JUST A PIECE OF RAG, IT REPRESENT
THE BRAVES WHO HAVE DIED, THE BRAVES WHO CAME BACK MUTILATED BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR THE AMERICANS TO STAY FREE, IT REPRESENT THE FRAIMERS WHO CREATE THE CONSTITUTION
FOR THE CENTURY RELISH BY THE AMERICANS ALL OF THEM WHO CAME SEEKING THE SAME FREEDOM AS THOSE WITH DEEP ROOTS, and I could go on and on
DON’T EVER TELL THAT TO THE PATRIOTS, THEY WILL SAY YOU ARE COMITING TREASON,
WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?
I read your comments all them don’t adjust to your comment, as if it’s not from you.
and obama agenda is hiding the flag where it was on before just like the CONSTITUTION IS IN HIS WAY,
how can ANY AMERICANS CAN GET THEMSELVES TO VOTE FOR HIM, IF THEY ARE NOT TRAITORS,

-Bain Capital outsourcing jobs with Mitt Romney heading the company(both disputable “facts” liberal/progressives are touting now) = traitorous and unpatriotic

-Obama and the liberal/progressives in Congress outsourcing jobs via the Stimulus(indisputable facts) = “energizing” our economy and spurring growth

@ilovebeeswarzone: You must have misunderstood….the point being is one is what is considered acceptable, the other not exceptable in Upside Down Land…

Sua Sponte
ah, I forgot the post upside down,
yes it is upside down,
thank’s for reminding me, forgive my absent mind,
I came to think it was someone using your name ,
I apologize
bye

OBAMA SAID NO APOLOGY to MITT ROMNEY, FOR MENTIONING HE IS A FELON,
THAT IS VERY LOW CLASS FROM HIM, I was expecting it from what we know of his record,
just in with GRETA on FOX, he send his guy to give the answer to her.
the election will be debated between the lowest class and the top notch class,

the police close the bridge between DETROIT AND CANADA,
BECAUSE OF A BOMB THREAT

-Democrat candidates endorsed by the communist party……mEH
-Republican candidates endorsed by the NRA……OMG!….Nazis!

-Oil companies making 8.3 cents a gallon profit on a gallon of gas…..Greedy bastards….
-States, NC in particular, taking 32.5 cents per gallon of gas…….Yawn…

-Hiring and promoting people based on the color of their skin….No racist…
-Requiring someone to show photo ID to vote….Racist!

-Democrats, think black Americans are incapable of success without government help…Not racist
-Republicans/Conservatives think black Americans can do anything they set their minds to without help from anyone….Racist!

-Burning the U.S. Flag is acceptable because it’s just a piece of cloth that doesn’t mean anything…
-Displaying a Confederate flag is unacceptable because it’s a symbol of hatred….

Not sure I see the difference. Both forms of expression are protected by the First Amendment. And both are surely anti-American and insulting to the men and women in a time of war who are risking life and limb under the American flag.

@Sua Sponte:

-Democrats, think black Americans are incapable of success without government help…Not racist
-Republicans/Conservatives think black Americans can do anything they set their minds to without help from anyone….Racist!

This is the one that is impossible to figure out. Conservatives basically tell black America that they can do or become whatever they want while liberal/progressives tell black America that they cannot, yet, conservatives are considered to be the racists. Talk about living in an upside down land!

@johngalt:

So Democrats think so little of Blacks that all they did was go ahead elect one President?

I know concern for the lives and livelihoods of black Americans is a new trendy topic on the Right, but the reason it doesn’t translate to votes is because blacks – and Hispanics – have memories and can remember back to the distant past, two or three years ago, before demographic shifts in likely voters forced Republicans to start pretending they care.

@Tom: Point missed.

@Tom:

That you have to mislead and lie about the right is very telling, Tom. It means that you either get my point and hate it, or that your disconnect from reality prevents you from realizing it. Either way, it’s an honest assessment of the attitudes within the messages liberal/progressives and conservatives give to black America.

@johngalt:

It’s an assessment that’s actually quite misleading about liberal attitudes and, frankly, quite insulting toward blacks. Unlike yourself, liberals don’t lump all blacks together as dependent underachievers, addicted to handouts. Nor do I know any liberals who equate the phrase “incapable of success without government help” with blacks, as if there aren’t any white people receiving government assistance. Yet you wonder why blacks wouldn’t want to take you up on your offer to save them from liberals and from themselves.

Silly Obama:
“If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”
Obama’s Socialist Mantra: Risk Takers Are Free Riders

George Orwell would be proud.
And so would Karl Marx:
“To each according to his need and from each according to his ability.”

I know quite a few business owners, including doctors in private practice.
The 60+ hour work week is common.
All the government did was put barriers in their way.

@Tom:

Really? What world do you live and and how why do your “liberal” groups keep attacking Conservatives who are not Caucasian if you’re supposedly so Tollerant?

Obama in his own words (roughly transcribed below)

MSM: “I hear more and more are disappointed in you? … you are not perceived as the transformational figure”

Pres O: “What’s frustrated people is that I cannot nor been able to force Congress to implement* every aspect of what I said in 2008. Our founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change that I would like sometimes[dangling modifer?]***. But what we want be able to do is move in the right direction [bipartisanship???]. Plotting away, very persistant. And I get better as time goes on”

Interesting word placement. Parse: implement*, more difficult, & sometimes[dangling modifer?]***.

I think diagramming the sentence would further expose the fog.

Great piece. Of course if any one of those policies were on the ballot they would lose every time. If however they are created by government inch by inch, no one knows what’s going on until it’s too late…

CJ
that is the problem, like Nan said, OBAMA is the maker of the problem,
by halting every thing that moves, he is puting AMERICA ON HOLD,
HE STOP THE JOBS, HE STOP THE WELFARE RECIPIENTS FROM COMING OUT, HE STOP THE MONEY TO CIRCULATE BY GIVING IT IN STAMP THEREFOR PUTING A BLOCK ON THE REAL DOLLAR VALUE SCREWING UP THE TAXPAYERS, HE PUT AMERICA ON HOLD BY HIS SPENDING SPREE AND LEAVING HER AT THIS LEVEL OF SINKING, LOWER FASTER,
HE STOP THE KEYSTONE FRIENDLY OIL FROM MOVING IN AND BRING JOBS FOR THE PEOPLE,
HE STOP THE MARKET BY INVADING THE BUSYNESS WITH PAGES OF REGULATIONS FREAKING FOR THE CREATOR OF JOBS, HE PUT THE THE FREEDOM ON HOLD BY IMPLEMENTING THE TSA SO POWERFUL THEY ARE A MONSTER,
SO MUCH MORE THAT I could come up with, now, he is sinking himself every time he make a speech,
it’s getting to a point that no one want to listen anymore, he has to pay his audience, he has to pay his MEDIA, HE HAS TO BEG FOR MONEY IN HIS FOREIGN FRIENDS COUNTRIES,
AMERICA IS ON HOLD, EXCEPT FOR THE ILLEGALS COMING IN BY THOUSANDS FROM 150 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES OF NON WANTED PEOPLE who represent a great danger for AMERICANS,
BRING MORE SO HE CAN REPLACE THE MILITARY WHO DIED IN THAT CRAZY WAR BY THOSE ILLEGALS HE FAVOR AS SURE VOTERS,
AMERICA CHECK THAT UP FOR YOURSELF, AND GET HIM OUT OF THERE,
YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM POWER ABSOLUTE TO DEMOLISGH AND RUIN YOU,

@Tom:

Unlike yourself, liberals don’t lump all blacks together as dependent underachievers, addicted to handouts.

Unlike me? Show me where I have stated that black America is “dependent underachievers, addicted to handouts”. I haven’t, Tom. That is you projecting what you think myself, and other conservatives, think of black America.

The funny thing is, and I touched on it above, that conservatives believe everyone in America can be and do what they wish to be, or do, themselves, and it doesn’t require government “help”.

Liberal/progressives believe that the people need government “help” in order to succeed.

Witness Obama’s latest quote;

They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own.

Obama goes on to talk about how without government “help” that even the really successful people couldn’t have gotten there without it. So tell me, and the rest of FA, how the comments of Sua Sponte and myself are misleading about how liberal/progressives feel about not just black America, but ALL of the people.

The truth is that we conservatives are NOT the racists the liberal/progressives, and YOU, make us out to be, and that you, and they, have to lie and mislead in order to “prove” that we are. Thank you for being a wonderful example of why we live in an “upside-down-land”, as CJ put it.

johngalt
TOM always do put words he say and twist them as coming from you’re mouth.
he is to be watch for his bad habit, he does on purpose to demonize the CONSERVATIVES,
OBAMA ALSO DEMONIZE ANY ONE HE WANT TO LOOK BAD IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE.
AND SOME BELIEVE THEIR LIES, LIKE CHOOSING THE WORDS OF THE DEVIL ADVOCATE.
THEY WILL GO AS FAR AS BECOMING TRAITORS THAT WAY,
AS LONG AS THEY CONVINCE THE PEOPLE UNAWARE OF THEIR INNER INTENT.

CJ
I like JOHN SUNUNU, HE IS A VERY BRAVE MAN, HE DOESN’T CHOOSE HIS WORD
TO answer to OBAMA’S ATTACKS ON MITT ROMNEY’S BAIN,
MITT IS NOT A STREET GANGSTA, HE DOESN’T WANT TO USE THE OBAMA STYLE,
IT’S TO LOW FOR HIM TO GO. BUT OTHER LIKE JOHN SUNUNU WILL DO IT,
MITT DOESN’T NEED TO GET THERE TO TAKE THE PRESIDENCY OF THIS SUPER POWER,
WHICH NEED SMART AND CLASS TO BE RESPECTED BY OTHER NATIONS OF THE WORLD,
THAT IS WHAT OBAMA KILLED IN HIS TIME, HE LOST IT FROM ALL OVER THE GLOBE, AND NO GIFT MONEY HE CAN GIVE WILL EVER BUY IT, WHEN IT’S GONE, IT’S OVER.

VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW
any one who get in the plane check your sanwitch if you order it ,or any thing else,
they found needles in sanwichs on plane to and from GERMANY, MORE THAN ONE,
one person had the needle puncture the inside top of his mouth, the other found it before.
it seem that all the had needles in
GEEZ WHERE IS THE WORLD GOING TO?

Gate Gourmet is in Netherlands in this case.
They make halal meals for air flights.
So, take a guess who is in their kitchen.

I live in California which is definitely upside down!! Enter California illegally and get free education, healthcare, and welfare!!

Takiyyotomist
hi, yes she is a winner here, on her many comments coming from many different POSTS,
NICE TO READ YOU AGAIN.
DON’T BE TO LONG, WE’RE BUSY HERE, WE NEED ALL THE GOOD SMART WE CAN GET
BYE

MOSSOMO
WOW, I’m impress by JAMES DAVID MANNING,
LET’S SEE IF OBAMA will listen to his demands.
and so much more in there
thank you.

@johngalt:
AZ Constitution Art 5, Sec 1 (v2)
C. The officers of the executive department during their terms of office shall reside at the seat of government where they shall keep their offices and the public records, books, and papers. They shall perform such duties as are prescribed by the constitution and as may be provided by law.

Also, Section 4 of the same Article.
The governor shall transact all executive business with the officers of the government, civil and military, and may require information in writing from the officers in the executive department upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices. He shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed. He may convene the legislature in extraordinary session. He shall communicate, by message, to the legislature at every session the condition of the state, and recommend such matters as he shall deem expedient.