Breaking News! President Obama Was Born In 1890, Well The Person Who Originally Owned His Social Security Number Was

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President Obama may have a more serious problem for reelection in Ohio than Mitt Romney. A 70 something private investigator has her ducks all in a row and it looks impressive.

Susan Daniels, filed suit on July 2 in the Geauga County, Ohio, Common Pleas Court demanding Jon Husted, Ohio Secretary of State, remove President Obama’s name from the ballot until the president can prove the legitimacy of his Social Security Number.

Daniels has run thousands of SSNs for former clients; she knows her business and has documented every detail. She insists:

Barack Obama has repeatedly, consistently, and with intent misrepresented himself by using a fraudulently obtained Social Security Number.

Daniels has become a valid write-candidate for president, thus she is eligible to make the challenge, according to Ohio Law.

Ms Daniels began her investigation in August of 2009. She has accessed a variety of proprietary databases, because of her Private Investigator’s licensure.

It is public knowledge the 042 prefix on a SSN designates the state of Connecticut for registery. President Obama has been using a 042 SSN since 1986. Ms Daniels ran ten sequential numbers in alignment with the president’s number and found they were all issued between 1977 and 1979 in CT. The numbers flanking the president’s SSN indicate the President’s number was issued during March of 1977.

In March of 1977, President Obama was 15-years old and living in Hawaii. There is no record of the President ever visiting Connecticut during this period of his life. To qualify for a SSN, an applicant must show up for a “mandatory in-person interview.” The president’s sister, Maya, has a legitimate Hawaii SSN, issued from the state of Hawaii.

From the database of the Massachusetts Department of Motor Vehicles, Ms Daniels discerned the president used the same SSN to obtain a driver’s license, while attending college and has used the same number for filing taxes for 2009.
During the research, Daniels kept coming into a “marked anomaly,” multiple birthdates for the same person. The 08/04/1961 and 04/08/1961 was reasonable, but the frequent appearance of the year 1890 seemed suspicious.

Daniels feels the anomaly arises from the fact that the president’s SSN was originally issued in March of 1977 to a person born in 1890.

This assertion can be verified; the Social Security Administration maintains on microfilm a copy of all original SS-5 applications and their appropriate numbers. Daniels has been denied access to those records.

Consequently, Daniels filed suit:

“Defendant Husted, through this filing,” she argues, “has been made aware that the Democratic Candidate has been using a fraudulent Social Security Number, which would render Barack Obama ineligible under both the Ohio and U.S. Constitutions.”

She has asked the court to issue an injunction to prevent President Obama’s appearing on the ballot, until it is determined he is using a legitimate SSN.

Judging from the response of other courts, it is unlikely Daniels will receive justice for her efforts in Geauga County or from the Republican Secretary of State, but she has established a legitimate paper trail, a matter of record that will be hard for even the Conservative media with RINO sympathies to ignore.

The MSM or the president’s propaganda bureau cannot be expected to acknowledge the research; since it so far beyond their job description, but the research has been done and it raises the legitimate question, “Who is this man and why is he an enigma?”

The questions will never go away, until they are answered. They only cause Americans to lose faith in the system and the politicians and bureaucrats running the system.

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Will she be poo pooed as a birther? We need to get to the bottom of this. Obama is a fraud and belongs in the maximum security prison in Marion, Indiana for life.

This will get swept under the rug and ignored. The MSM won’t allow their boy to be derailed.

Does not take much of an assumption. If the woman is correct about where the first 3 digits indicate where it was issued, Obama needs to have some sort of proof he was at an office in that place. Where was his draft card issued? Social Security will not be able to kept this from us for very long. My question is, when Obama is removed from office for fraud, will all the legislation he signed be invalid?

Questions I have:

1) Is she correct?
2) Is there a logical explanation other than fraud?
3) Is she just another nut?

Living in AZ I can tell you it isn’t hard to get a SSN. Whether it’s a real one that has been stolen or a made up one, there are people you can go to see to get one. I’m taking this with many grains of salt. In fact, does anyone have any tequila?

This is old news…the lawsuit is what’s new.

22,800,000 search results…

http://www.bing.com/search?q=obama+ssn&FORM=IEFM1&src=IE-SearchBox

@Hard Right: It is not hard to get a SSN in any state. A legal one does take some organization though! As most of you know, this isn’t the first time the bogus SSN has been identified. Maybe the suit should have been initiated in a very RED state. Is it too late to run for the presidency? Maybe the inmate that garnered so many votes in the primary wants to join this suit.

This story is false, according to Snopes. Please read this:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

I found a copy of the affidavid Daniels submitted to the court to which she swore was true. The preceeding sequential 10 SSNs as well as the 10 after Obama’s SSN were all issued in Connecticut. Not only did she make the declaration, she listed each of the social security numbers. All issued between 1977 and 1979, Odd, that out of 21 sequential social security numbers twenty preceeding and twenty after Obama’s were issued in CT. Snopes is full of shit.

Not so many years ago a person could get an officially issued Social Security number by simply filling out an application. Proof of birth, citizenship, and identity were not required. Back then applications were filled out in ink by hand. They weren’t weren’t cross-checked against a central computer database. Numbers and cards weren’t even centrally issued. Cards were issued by local offices. The applicant’s name was added to the card using a typewriter.

For a person Obama’s age to have had multiple SSNs issued really isn’t uncommon. The usual reason is that person lost their original card and filed a new application the next time a number was needed.

Isn’t Sue Daniels aware of this? Maybe there’s no competency test required to get a Private Investigator’s license. A Private Investigator’s license wouldn’t allow her access to any Social Security number database anyway. Daniel’s hasn’t “run Social Security numbers” for anybody. Not legally, anyway.

@Skook: It isn’t illegal if you own the justice department!

It isn’t illegal for a person to have been issued more than one number. When it’s discovered, the earlier numbers are cross referenced to the person’s most recent SSN. The earnings reported for each number are reviewed year by year, and all earnings are then merged into a single earnings record.

“To qualify for a SSN, an applicant must show up for a “mandatory in-person interview.””
This is not true. Just fill out the form, add a certified birth certificate and mail it in.

“Not so many years ago a person could get an officially issued Social Security number by simply filling out an application. Proof of birth, citizenship, and identity were not required.”
Back when I got my number in the ’60s I had to provide a certified birth certificate.

When my wife applied for benefits, it was online and mailing in a certified birth certificate. Face to face meetings are very rare.

I want the a**h*** out as much as the next guy, but these type of statements do not help the cause.

It should be obvious by now that Obama has had wealthy and powerful handlers from the very beginning. His official biography is made up of whole cloth and falls to pieces with even the scantest of inspections, yet the media and powers that be seem quite willing to give him a complete pass on his forged documents and fictitious autobiographies. Even his political enemies appear loathe to press the issue. Why do you suppose that is? Charges of racism? Hardly. Threats of intimidation? Perhaps. Or maybe when certain parties get too close to the truth, Obama calls them in and lets them in on his little secret, that he is not the son of a “goat herder” from Kenya, but rather the scion of one of the richest, most powerful families on the planet.

Obama has a Connecticut Social Security Number because he was probably in Connecticut at some point between 1977 and 1979, most likely in Greenwich, CT. His family owns mansions all over the globe and the means to travel to and from them at will. This is why you will never see his passport. The only person that did was murdered execution style. see. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/

I find it good advice never to underestimate one’s enemies. Those who underestimate Barack Hussein Soetero Obama, aka Harrison J. Bounel, do so at their own peril. So Be wise as serpents, but harmless as doves. Mat. 10: 16

@Jason: Jason, I lost my card a long time ago. When they issued me a new card after I had filled out the new application they gave me the same number. I think someone here is full of stuff that stinks.

Most all of the referenced places that look to disprove Daniels allegations are from a few years back. This is new, it is fully documented and is sworn to and on its way to court. The Social Security office will be forced to produce evidence on way or another. Jason, you question Daniels bona fides as a private investigator and I question you IQ.

I don’t trust Snopes as the final word on anything.

What is the point in this? They’ll just say,”for security reasons, we have to give a false SSI#…”

Don’t you realize that is how the game is played? Then you end up looking foolish for pointing it out.

042-68-4425

Lots of coincendences with the Pres and wifey.

An interesting note: Madelyn Dunham was a volunteer at the Oahu Circuit Court probate department and had access to the Social Security numbers of deceased people.

Obama’s 042 SSN does not appear in the Social Security death index and now has two dates of birth tied to it: Aug. 4, 1961 and the year 1890.

A Michelle sold a house using M.Obama’s ss# but the deed of sale listed the seller as a Michelle Meyer.

Why did Michelle stop practicing law? And what role did the ’93 ARDC play? – Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois.

Don’t forget his publisher and bio stated Kenyan born for over a decade. Then you have a dispute about him having dual citizenship because his Indonesian school enrollment indicates being Indonesian, not too mention listing religion as muslim.

And there’s a matter of Hawaii’s missing records, something about INS records for the week of Obama’s birth, Aug. 1 – Aug. 7, 1961, were missing from the end of Reel 184 and were not discovered anywhere on Reel 185, or any other microfilm reel in the record group.

The obfuscation known as Executive Order 13489. What was it’s purpose before becoming a joke on birthers?

Interesting that Skook notes the people not on the level with multiple ss#’s.

Another affidavit links Lexis Nexis with another Obama Social Security Number, 485-40-5154; this Social Security Number is noteworthy as it was assigned to Lucille I Ballantyne, born 12.22.1912, deceased 09.13.1998, was the Mother of Harry Ballantyne who was Chief Actuary of Social Security Administration.

Coincedences all around.

I would dearly love to see the next LEGITIMATE “president” use his power to research this and if barack is found to be illegal, he serve another 4 years in prison and then be permanently DEPORTED and all his past actions (crimes?) be rectified………

It is possible for somebody to have multiple SSN’s through no fault of their own. For example, if the original or replacement card application was mis-keyed, well, crap happens. The computer could alert to the possible problem, but if the keyer enters the wrong resolution code, more crap. You would hope an adult SSN holder would notice the difference and say something. A kid that didn’t remember his own number might have a problem if the keyer wasn’t careful. If a second number is issued in error, when the Lucky Number Winner eventually realizes it, he can report it to the office and the situation is resolved as Jason said above.

@w8sdz:

Snopes is a husband and wife research team that work out of their house in LA. They have never provided authoritative credentials that they are licensed investigators, only that they lay claim to “15 years’ experience as professional researchers and writers” . They are also very stubborn and refuse to make corrections when they are wrong, even when you provide evidence to the contrary of what they have written. No, I don’t trust Snopes any more than I trust that everything I read in Wilkapedia is true.

Told you a long time ago he was a muslim terrorist. His delays with Iran have allowed them to develop WMD and gain access to russian surface to surface missiles. Now note …Chian has a very large presence in Africa..US zippo. In 5-10 years, Africa will be the nest middle east. The average citizen and the political elite are so ignorant on regional change. The new buzz word is “flow”..no longer does commerce or humans move, “they flow” Drop this one at the FRi/SAt night patio gathering…

All very interesting info, but my guess : Barry renounced US citizenship and/or just accepted Pakistani citizenship as a youngster. He was surrounded by anti-US folks. Then, after being abroad, for whatever reason, it is determined that it’s time to return and he needs a SS#. A phone call is made and connected people pull their switches and he gets one from CT. Goes to school as a foreign student getting foreign aid money and plays that angle for street cred and aid until it suited his purposes to morph into a black man in Chicago.

And that is the most innocent explanation. The guy is a internationalist grifter, takes what he needs and always looking to play the field for what he can. At worst, there is a group of enablers that have a master plan pushing him along, but more likely, fellow-travelers enabling him to morph and take advantage of the system to all of their benefit. An indictment of the MSM for sure and the DNC. Should be a major scandal.

@Jason:

Daniels ran this soc sec number thru the E-File and, was returned as ‘flagged as invalid’.

The gentleman owning the original number retired to Hawaii and subsequently passed away in Hawaii. Obama’s grandmother’s position held was that of of the local office where social sec numbers were matched by the deceased.
How easy would it have been, or more likely, that she needed one for her grandson?
After all, obama may or may not was born in this country, we don’t even know who his real father is or was, not to mention that his mother took lots of pornographic pics for the communist Frank Marshall Davis.

At the age of 15, obama held his first job at Baskin Robbins in Hawaii.
Naturally, he needed a social security number to do so; Madeleine Dunham provided him with one.

If you take a closer look at his house in Chicago, not even that is in the obama’s name but that of a Mr. Bouncel. Do the math!

@Dave Brickner: This level of fraud needs execution

@cali: and didn’t she suddenly leave us all on the eve of the 2008 election?

@w8sdz:
And, of course, Snopes would never lie. Would they?

Snopes has cast itself in the role of final arbiter of all truths. One would think in order to justify that they would need some credentials of some sort. In truth, Snopes is a mom-and-pop operation run by two people with zero formal investigative training or experience.

http://www.metroedit.com/2009/05/how-accurate-is-snopescom/

I quit trusting Snopes when they wrote that claims of forgery of Obama’s BC had been “debunked”. One “Adobe expert” tells ’em it’s real and they ignore the hundreds of Adobe experts who show how it was assembled out of bits and pieces.

@PB:
My SS number was issued in 1961 with no supporting documentation whatsoever. I just filled out the application.

@Hard Right: Why are people downvoting this comment? It’s every bit as important to examine your own side’s material critically as it is to do the same with liberal stories, and he asked a genuine and fair question. Non-statists need to stick together and direct our efforts wisely. There may be something to this and there may not, but either way, engaging in mindless groupthink just makes us more prone to wasting resources and energy on battles that don’t accomplish much in the long run.

@Hard Right said:

Questions I have:

1) Is she correct?
2) Is there a logical explanation other than fraud?
3) Is she just another nut?

Living in AZ I can tell you it isn’t hard to get a SSN. Whether it’s a real one that has been stolen or a made up one, there are people you can go to see to get one. I’m taking this with many grains of salt. In fact, does anyone have any tequila?

Questions I have:
1) Is she correct?
2) Is there a logical explanation other than fraud?
3) Is she just another nut?

If she is correct, there is no need to ask the other questions.

Liberals will defend the indefensible, making question two a rhetorical question.

A nut can still conduct a legitimate investigation.

Yes, we should be skeptical of all new information, but we are amateurs with limited resources; besides, Liberals are adept at providing false information and acting as agent provocateurs.

@Budvarakbar:

Nothing so drastic!! It should be Obama’s legacy to live in shame. The American “electorate” who VOTED (dead or alive) for him should also be deported.

Amusing thread.

, no doubt that’s true about agent provocateurs; hell, they did it openly & unashamedly when trying to smear the Tea Party. But @Hard Right sure doesn’t look like one of those. I guess I’m just a bit disappointed when I see rashes of downvotes on sincere but skeptical questions and comments among like-minded people who oppose statism. That kind of behavior is a hallmark of the other side; sharp minds on our side should not only tolerate critical analysis, but welcome and encourage it, even when it has imperfections. It makes us better.

@Long Retired:

I’d forgotten about such snafus. Years ago I worked for a credit card company and entering the wrong SSN on a credit application could be a real nightmare for the “victims”. I could see how something like this could happen innocently.
Again, I know it could be deliberate too.
Now where’s those lemons?

@Jason:

Wrong. A legal citizen only has a single Social Security number issued to them pending the State they were either born in or had requested one in after being made a Citizen. Any other numbers being used by the Person is an act of ID theft and a case of fraud, as those different numbers belong to different people.

The answer to all of this is easy. The people in charge at Social Security need to release the microfilm copy of the original document assigning the questioned SSN to Obama. I kind of guess that information will be unavailable. Sort of like his college transcripts. And they called Reagan an actor!

I’m a bit curious why the microfilm file is being stonewalled from this private investigator, but other than that this will be a tough case to sell in Ohio courts.

The Obama administration specializes in lying, stonewalling, investigative obstruction, the using of minion thuggery against opponents, seals records that could lead to the truth, and is one of the least transparent administrations America has ever had. The next President after Obama needs to unseal all these records and order their release so that the people can learn the truth about “the Won”.

@Ditto: Jack Nickelson said it best: “You can’t handle the truth!” (A Few Good Men) I believe that if the truth ever got out on Obama’s grades, birth certificate, college papers, SSN, Authorship of his books, Passport records, Pakistan trip, and many other “unknowns” that other candidates reveal, he would never have been elected. I do not think he was even an effective “community organizer”. If my dog had not died a few years ago, he would have been a more qualified candidate for president than Obama. The local marshall knew all about my dog and his escapades around town!

w8sdz
I have read that snope cannot be trusted, he had lost credibility from many people.
he was expose here at FLOPPING ACES , A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
bye

CHIEF ARPAGO IS WAITING FOR OBAMA TOO.

Why is our side so willing to go the extra mile to say he’s legal? Since when is it a crime for citizens of this country to seek answers to substantial allegations? Why do we allow seekers of the highest office in the land, to have his lives records sealed. This pos went to court and had his senatorial opponents divorce records unsealed, but get a glance at any of his? Why that’s just not done, and the “ELITES” on our side join in this charade, and belittle those of us who object. As A famous jailbird Ohio Democrap once said “beam me up”

@w8sdz:

Snopes is not a credible resource. They sold out to pursue a political agenda a few years ago.

Wrong. A legal citizen only has a single Social Security number issued to them pending the State they were either born in or had requested one in after being made a Citizen. Any other numbers being used by the Person is an act of ID theft and a case of fraud, as those different numbers belong to different people

I was explaining why many people who got their first SSN years ago have been issued more than one number during their lives. Fraud or ID theft wasn’t usually the reason. Millions of people have had more than one SSN. It hardly ever happens now because there’s a national computer database.

You’re probably going to have 4 more years to spin out crank theories about Obama. You should get some new material.

Sure,Jason,it wasn’t fraud.You guys are going to have plenty of time to come up with your own conspiracy theories after the election.

@w8sdz: I MUST ASSUME THAT YOU KNOW THAT SNOPES IS OWNED BY OBAMA ZOMBIES? I WOULD EXPECT NO LESS FROM THEM AS THEY HAVE COMMITTED FRAUD MANY TIMES, COVERING FOR THE ILLEGAL COMMUNIST OBUMA ALREADY! WHAT ABOUT HIS FAKE BIRTH CERT(PROVEN) HIS FAKE DRAFT CARD(PROVEN) AND WHAT PASSPORT WAS HE USING WHEN HE WAS ATTENDING COLLEGE AS A FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENT, RECEIVING FAKE GRADES, AND A FAKE HARVARD DEGREE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY A SAUDI NATIONAL! PULL YOUR HEAD OUTTA YOUR ASS AND SMELL THE COFFEE, LIBTARD!