9 May

Stick a fork in her [Reader Post]

                                       

Elizabeth Warren is done.

Elizabeth Warren has listed herself as a “minority professor” in the Association of American Law Schools’ annual directory and Harvard listed her as a minority professor as well.

The Ivy League law school prominently touted Warren’s Native American background, however, in an effort to bolster their diversity hiring record in the ’90s as the school came under heavy fire for a faculty that was then predominantly white and male.

“Of 71 current Law School professors and assistant professors, 11 are women, five are black, one is Native American and one is Hispanic,” The Harvard Crimson quotes then-Law School spokesman Mike Chmura as saying in a 1996 article. The Crimson added that 83 percent of the Law School’s students believed the number of minority women on staff was inadequate.

“Although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, Chmura said professor of law Elizabeth Warren is Native American,” the Crimson wrote.

The Crimson noted Warren’s heritage again in 1998 when Lani Guinier became the first black woman tenured at the law school, mentioning that Warren was “the first woman with a minority background to be tenured.”

She was listed as “Native American,” not “part Native American.”

Now there are ominous smoke signals ahead for her.

This “Native American” never had time for Native American events at Harvard:

Shelly Lowe, executive director of Harvard University’s Native American Program (HUNAP), told Breitbart News today that U.S. Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren had not, to her knowledge, participated in the program’s events while Warren was a professor at Harvard.

And it turns out that a much more significant part of her heritage participated in some nasty anti-Indian events.

But the most stunning discovery about the life of O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford is that her husband, Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia who rounded up Cherokees from their family homes in the Southeastern United States and herded them into government-built stockades in what was then called Ross’s Landing (now Chattanooga), Tennessee—the point of origin for the horrific Trail of Tears, which began in January, 1837.

This new information about Ms. Warren’s true heritage came as a direct result of a lead provided to me by William Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection, who in turn had received the information from one of his readers. Jacobson, who has questioned Warren’s explanation for her law faculty listing, calls this discovery “the ultimate and cruelest irony” of the Warren Cherokee saga.

Jonathan Crawford, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford’s husband and apparently Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, served in the East Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia commanded by Brigadier General R. G. Dunlap from late 1835 to late 1836. While under Dunlap’s command he was a member of Major William Lauderdale’s Battalion, and Captain Richard E. Waterhouse’s Company.

These were the troops responsible for removing Cherokee families from homes they had lived in for generations in the three states that the Cherokee Nations had considered their homelands for centuries: Georgia, North Carolina, and Tennessee.

While these involuntary home removals were not characterized by widespread violence, the newly displaced Cherokee mothers, fathers, and children found an oppressive and sometimes brutal welcome when they finally arrived at the hastily constructed containment areas. An estimated 4,000 Cherokees were warehoused in Ross’s Landing stockades for months awaiting supplies and additional armed guards the Federal Government believed necessary to relocate them on foot to Oklahoma.

Throughout her campaign Warren has been a hypocritical fraud. She’s whined about the 1% even though she pulls down $400,000 plus every year from Harvard and is worth $14 million.

She has been aptly labeled “Fauxchahontas.”

Stick a fork in her.

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67 Responses to Stick a fork in her [Reader Post]

  1. Art says: 1

    Poor Zimmerman, caught up in the corrupt world of PC of the Democrats. Such hypocrisy begs for definition….and why would you pay such ridiculous tuition to a school that throws such insane money at such a phony lunatic?
    She is disgusting beyond words.

    Our Country at its worst.

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  2. Nan G says: 2

    I have a very rich, but very flawed friend who is 100% whatever Native you have to be to get cash from the casino revenue here in So Cal.
    She worries every time the management of the casino tries to ”purge” the tribe of those not ”really” in their tribe.
    It isn’t that she can’t prove her own heritage, it is just that many of those hangers-on have no other means of support and knows where she (and other disabled like her) live.
    Last time we talked one had to be MORE than 50% of this tribe (no others) to qualify as a member.
    The nerve of Liz Warren.
    1/32nd?
    And that might have been a pity marriage after a trail of tears slaver got her ancestress pregnant!
    She really owes America an apology.

    PS,
    I have no native blood.
    My ancestors did not steal any of this land.
    Neither did my ancestors own slaves here.
    My first people to set foot here did so only after it was clear what Hitler would have done to them had they stayed in Europe.

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  3. DrJohn
    can you tell what GEORGE ZIMMERMAN PICTURE HAS TO DO WITH THAT PERSON?
    THERE ARE NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER

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  4. Nan G says: 4

    @ilovebeeswarzone: Bees,
    Don’t you remember when George Zimmerman was called a ”white Hispanic” by the leftist media?
    LOL!
    Why did New York Times call George Zimmerman ‘white Hispanic’? ….

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  5. FAITH7 says: 5

    In Liberal ‘lying’ fashion…the end justifies the means… Hypocrite !!!

    This is good actually…day after day it’s bringing the scum of Liberalism/Progressives to the top of the pond and letting the world see what sociopaths these people really are….I just pray people are watching, listening and most importantly understanding how deceptive these people really are…and how much they are hurting this country…

    I do love the ‘Fauxchahontas’ label ….LOL

    She passes more like… Swedish – German.. Perhaps….??

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  6. Nan G.
    YES It did not occur to me to make that connection,
    thank you for the reminder,
    bye

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  7. Publius says: 7

    “Stick a fork in her”? Doubt it, this is Massachusetts we are talking about here. It probably adds to her poll numbers. See the good people of MA and their support for Deval Patrick, the corrupt state Democrat party and repeatedly voting for John Kerry over the years. Not to mention their moonbat House delegation.

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  8. Art says: 8

    Stick a fork in her? Please let me be the first.

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  9. ART
    AND HOW WHERE WHEN, NO don’t answer

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  10. oil guy from Alberta says: 10

    Is it S-tting Bull or Bull S-itting? The Cherokee voters in Massatchusetts want to know.
    John Kerry- Why the long face?

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  11. oil guy from Alberta
    hi,
    it must be because he lost his medals,
    bye

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  12. annie says: 12

    Living in Ma is very hard these people just keep o nvoting in the worse we have. Kerry the politition that will be there until he dies and all the rest of the cooks…Can’t stand it….

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  13. Ivan says: 13

    Agreed about her not being “done.” MA is a world all to itself, like California.

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  14. johngalt says: 14

    @Nan G:

    I am 1/8 native american and I have never listed native american as my race/heritage/whatever. And not because I am ashamed of it, either. Maybe I should start listing my race as native american and see what kind of doors open up for me. Can’t hurt, can it?

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  15. DiveCon says: 15

    i’m 1/64th native American but on things like the census i check other and write in HUMAN(God only made 1 race, the rest are variations) but, i’ve heard that it was only family lore that her ancestress was native, not that she actually was

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  16. John Cooper says: 16

    @Publius: I agree. Sure, Warren has become a laughingstock around the right-wing blogosphere, which the liberal voters of Massataxes don’t read. But I just did a quick search of the Boston Globe and there is only one article – predictably making Warren out to be a victim and accusing Scott Brown of racism for bringing up her heritage.

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  17. And it couldn’t be a more delicious seat in question – the so-called “Ted Kennedy” seat.

    btw – “Fauxchahontas” is my favorite cat call on this one, too. The Daily Caller’s “Sitting Bullsh*t” a very close second.

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  18. I wish I shared your optimism. The leftist capacity for self-delusion is incredible. She could slaughter indians with her bare hands and the Massatoosits liberals would still pull the lever for her.

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  19. Jim S says: 19

    @DiveCon: I like that… Human. ;-) I sometimes check “native American” on things… I was born here, after all. ;-)

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  20. Common Sense says: 20

    @Ivan: I agree, I live in California and the wachos abound!! I live in North San Diego county and we have some sanity here due to the military. Junior Seau RIP!!

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  21. DiveCon says: 21

    @LibertyAtStake: how about “Fauxchahontas fulla bull”

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  22. Greg says: 22

    Chief Bill John Baker, the officially recognized head of the Cherokee nation, is Native America. His great-grandmother, Nancy Walker Osage, was a full-blooded Cherokee. None of his other great-grandparents were Native American. With 1/16th Indiana blood, he’s considered to be a Native American both by his tribe and the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Here’s how that works:

    Per Code of Federal Regulations 25- Indians, Bureau of Indian Afairs of the Department of the Interior:

    “The BIA sets no minimum blood quantum requirement for acknowledgment purposes, but does require descent from a historic tribe. If your group decides to establish a blood quantum requirement for membership, that is your own decision. However, it is not required by the acknowledgment regulations.”

    The Cherokee Nation does not require a specific quantum of Cherokee blood to officially recognize a person as a tribal member. What they require is that you be a direct linear descendant of a member of the tribe. Elizabeth Warren meets that requirement, because she’s a direct linear descendant of a Cherokee Indian: her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith.

    Her 1/32 blood quantum is totally irrelevant. She would be legally recognized as a Native America by both the Cherokee Nation and the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

    While Warren didn’t claim Native American status on a job application, it appears she could have legally done so. If her employer claimed her to be Native American subsequent to her hiring, it appears that they were legally justified in doing so.

    Basically, the Scott Brown campaign can fault her for only one thing: For having taken pride in her heritage based on a family tradition, before that tradition was confirmed to be accurate.

    Maybe you’d better stick a fork in them. They would appear to be well-cooked jackasses.

    Possibly republicans took an inventory recently in an effort to determine if there were any remaining minority groups that they hadn’t already pissed off, and discovered that they had yet to insult Native Americans. That oversight has now been corrected.

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  23. Hard Right says: 23

    Greg, you are truly pathetic. The average person with a brain ( that definitely excludes you) considers her a liar and they are right to do so.
    You really must be a paid operative to throw out such B.S. As I have said before, I’d call you a democrat whore, but there are some things even a whore won’t do.

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  24. Greg says: 24

    @Hard Right, #23:

    People ran with assumptions before checking the facts.

    If Warren has no basis for simply taking pride in her heritage and making a public reference to it, where does that leave the head of the Cherokee Nation?

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  25. Richard Wheeler says: 25

    My Uncle Russ Davis a ww2 decorated Marine , a published author and a Harvard math professor was proud of an Indian heritage that went back many generations.And why not?
    Greg has shown Warren has every right under Cherokee laws and traditions to make her claim.
    H.R. continues to show herself as little more than a bitter,foul mouthed antagonist with no substance.

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  26. Mr. Irons says: 26

    What you fail to understand Richard Wheeler is Warren is not trying to respect nor honor her bloodline proper. If she was doing so, this wouldn’t be an issue but the orginal article links that she had no time nor care to partake in her, “Heritage” events back in the 1990’s so your argument is a bit bunk.

    What is happening here is they listed her as a Minority simply for statistic reasons to look good on paper, nothing more and nothing less. Data manipulation to make it sound like the school was more diverse back then than it really was. There was no empathy reasons or emotional reasons for using her genetic make up in this listing, it was simply stat manipulation and many in the Native American Association is NOT pleased about this news about Warren. They feel mis-used and lied to.

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  27. johngalt says: 27

    You lefties are really cracking me up on this one. Don’t hurt yourself in your stretching to defend this.

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  28. Jim S says: 28

    @Mr. Irons: Well said. I think the key issue here is an association with the tribal society. Most people who’s family has been here a while could probably find some Native American blood. I know I can, having a Cherokee great-great grandmother. ;-) But since I was never a part of the “Cherokee community” as lefties would style it these days, I don’t go around laying any claim to it. It’s just an interesting bit of family trivia.

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  29. Jim S
    there is a very strong SPIRIT IN THE INDIAN’S CORE, and it’s still burning in many
    who still know their past,
    and that’s what we outsider admire of them surviving from the past,
    i believe they had been given the EARTH to take good care of it,
    THEY BELIEVE IN THE SPIRIT OF THE EARTH AND WHAT LIVE IN IT,
    THAT’S WHY THEY DESERVE TO BE THE GUARDIANS OF THE LIVING EARTH.

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  30. Jim S says: 30

    @ilovebeeswarzone: That may be so, or it could be just a romantic view from the outside. Natives killed each other, made war and took slaves. I guess the point here is that ms Warren was not a Native culturally, regardless of what she could claim legally. “Legal” and “Right” are not necessarily the same. In any case, the whole thing seems a bit silly.

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  31. Jim S
    hi,
    you are looking at a whole pattern general of what you take,
    but they are each like us, with different self, some are standing up in our mind because of the bad core, and if we do the same error as those times, when one was scalping a head for throfy and kill the whole tribe in our mindset, when this action is most likely to stick as a main mark,
    we forget there was a mix of individuals some from CAIN AND OTHER FROM ABEL
    SORT OF WAY TO MAKE A POINT, IN THE END WE ARE THE SAME, WITH OUR CRIMINALS AND OUR GOOD PEOPLE DEFINED BY MANY SHADE EACH, AND SHADES OF SMART BRAIN AT DIFFERENT LEVEL ALSO.
    BYE

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  32. Richard Wheeler says: 32

    Jim S. says “whole thing seems a bit siily” Ofcourse it is. I personally like ” Centerfold Brown” a moderate who consistantly sticks it to the far right and the T.P. He’ll hold his seat.

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  33. Greg says: 33

    @johngalt, #27:

    Don’t hurt yourself in your stretching to defend this.

    What exactly is the “this” that needs defending? All Warren has ever done is take pride in having a Native American ancestor. Is that somehow reprehensible? It’s not as if she was awarded special personal bonus points for mentioning it.

    Scott Brown has implied that she was. Based on what? There’s nothing but the accusation.

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  34. Hard Right says: 34

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Wahhhh! Sorry, but the claim is bogus and the whole bloodline thing is B.S.
    They clearly want to inflate their numbers with that “direct ancestor garbage”. She is no more an indian than the Pope.
    The claim she made is based off of a marriage license a loooong time ago where allegedly her ancestor was listed as an indian.
    If I wanted to play the same game, then I am a member of Spain’s royal class. We all know what would happen if I tried to go there and claim it, now don’t we? Yet you try to claim that the “bloodline” arguement is legit?

    The fact greg and other leftists actually defend her shows how there is absolutely nothing the far left can do that will keep them from marching mindlessly in lockstep.

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  35. Hard Right
    hi,
    in other word she has no proof except from a non ethical place
    which had no proof either,
    a total fabrication for her self purpose? ah poor liberals
    they are so pityfull buried in their lies to gain whatever,
    always for them never for the people.
    VOTE DEM ALL OUT
    bye

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  36. Richard Wheeler says: 37

    As stated Brown is the Tea Party’s worst nightmare–a liberal Repub in lockstep with Obama and the Dems.He’s gonna win. The Indian ancestry thing is a non story. Brown can cruise in.
    More interesting and closer races in Virginia and Mizzou.

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  37. Hard Right says: 38

    @ilovebeeswarzone:

    Exactly Bees.
    If the liberals had any shame (they wouldn’t be liberals) they wouldn’t defend her. As you can see, they only care that she has a D next to her name so she can do no wrong in their eyes.

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  38. Greg says: 39

    @ilovebeeswarzone, #36:

    . . . a total fabrication for her self purpose? ah poor liberals

    What was that self-serving purpose? Has anybody provided a single example of how Elizabeth Warren used a claim of American Indian ancestry to gain personal advantage at any point in her career?

    What we’ve got are people publicly attacking someone’s family tradition and sense of personal identity to further their own political aims, when the subject of the attack hasn’t been demonstrated to have used those things to any personal advantage.

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  39. Greg says: 40

    @Hard Right, #38:

    Hey, it’s your boy who exposed himself to a camera because somebody offered him a thousand bucks to take his clothes off. How does that compare with having publicly displayed pride over a family tradition concerning your ancestry?

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  40. Hard Right
    hi, is that the same thing as the WEINER EXHIBITION OF HIS WEENY’S STORY THE DEMOCRATS PROTECTED HIM ,
    EVEN KNOWING HE WAS LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH ? UNTIL THE OBVIOUS TRUTH CAME OUT,

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  41. GREG
    on election time as crucially important as this one is for a job survival,
    well paid with all benefits as oppose to the main sector jobs choice given to her,
    yes the purpose is there for sure,
    dang, some DEMS are willing to sleep with the DEVIL WHO HAS NO MORALITY, SO TO SAVE THEIR JOB

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  42. Hard Right says: 43

    @Greg:
    Ummmm greg, this is about how a marxist dem lied about her heritage. Please try to keep up and stay on topic.

    Bees, yes they care about power and control over all else.

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  43. SHARPTON AND HOWARD DEAN ARE POINTING THEIR FINGER AT AMERICANS, THEY ARE SPITTING AGAINST THE CONSERVATIVES, THEY ARE RAISING THEIR VOICES TO A TOLERANT PEACEFUL PEOPLE, THEY DON’T DESERVE TO BE ELECTED
    AND AMERICANS ARE SICK AND TIRED TO BE TREATED THIS WAY,ORDERING
    THE PEOPLE AS IF THEY ARE HITLER, THIS IS UNAMERICAN
    LET DEM OUT

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  44. Dc says: 45

    Anybody who’s had family here in North America for hundreds of years has heard tales (family folklore) of intermarriages of all kinds. Some they like to talk about when it’s popular/trendy to do so, some they don’t (like when your uncle marries your cousin). But, out of all those things, people claiming native american blood of some degree or another, specifically Cherokee, is quite common in the East…specifically the south east where the tribe was centrally located. But, Mrs Warren is going to have another tough time given her claims because of the claim coming from heritage out of Oklahoma.

    One has to take into account the relationship of things to the US Gov at the time for any such claims. When the Gov was rounding up Native Americans of the 5 civilized tribes of the East to relocate them….anybody who could pass, took an english, etc., name, married, etc., or just simply hid somewhere to try and avoid being taken away. IN other words, they would “deny” their heritage anyway they possibly could. The people who were marched from Ga, Al, Tn, etc., to Ok, were part of those tribes. Once they got to OK, etc., wherever they were relocated, they were registered with the US gov —later as well making claims under Dawes commission and other rolls, for reparations. The point here is…NOBODY wanted to be in that group or even known to affiliate with them when they were rounding them up and marching them off and the people were suffering. The native americans who could escape this in any way…did. Whether that was taking a new identity, passing as another race, etc…they did it.

    Even today, the Cherokee nation will not recognize your linage unless it can be traced in the same way. They will not accept family records, etc. Your family relation name must be in those rolls and must be cross referenced with “their” records of those names from the reservation. It’s harder, and more common lore, to trace any sort of linage or ties to Cherokee or other civilized tribes (Choctaw, Creek, Chickasaw, Seminole), if who ever your ancestor was “passed” at the time of relocation and was not recovered during the registration of the “rolls”. It’s possible for someone to have Cherokee blood an not be able to prove it. But, it’s not very likely given the efforts of documenting them in several different periods ..particularly when the Gov was offering money/land to anyone who could prove their linage.

    If Mrs Warren’s g, g, grandfather, married a cherokee woman out in OK at that time, she would have been WELL documented by that point in time with numerous cross references (rolls, etc). The time for “passing” was well over in regards to the relocation, gov round up, etc. and later rolls/commissions related to payments for restitution brought out most of what was left. (and then some) . That’s an issue you mostly see on the East coast. By the time they were relocated out to OK they were already on the books, registered, etc. That doesnt’ mean one might not try and “pass” for other reasons…such as social, etc. But, her linage/heritage would be well documented at that point if it came from out west (ie. OK) I’m not saying Mrs Warren does not have any cherokee blood. I dont’ know. I’m just saying the story that her Cherokee linage came from someone who was relocated to OK and she doesn’t have proof of it would be suspicious.

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  45. Dc says: 46

    I would add, I doubt this, even if it’s not true, will have any impact on Mrs Warrens support politically. Those moonbats looooove to play indian on the weekends, do “authentic” ceremonies, bang the drum and dance, etc. They’ll even pay lots of money (“gifts”) to do it!! You have to be rich to be a native american these days.

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  46. Dc
    thank you for that, it is very interesting to know for many, i’m sure
    do we know when and where the INDIANS came from,
    and at what point in time? would it be from the SOUTH?
    I’M THINKING THE MAYAS AND THEN WHERE DOES THE MAYAS ORIGINATED,
    THERE ARE ALSO MANY TRIBES IN CANADA SCATTERED ALL OVER, AND WE KNOW THEY USE TO BE FREE BY TREATY, TO CROSS FROM EITHER NORTH TO SOUTH OR VICE VERSA,
    SOME STILL DO IT,it’s well known there are some who are making big money to cross illegals from the rivers by boat loads and or by secrets wild entrys at the border also, similar to the MEXICAN CROSSING
    HELPED BY AGENTS CHARGING A LOT OF MONEY FOR THEIR HELP.
    BYE

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  47. Dc says: 48

    Originally? I dont’ know. The Cherokee themselves (along with the other tribes I mentioned) were very well documented to specific areas in the south, south east, since “weve” been here (or America was “discovered”).

    Mayan influence/culture mainly in the west. But, as far as whether or not the eastern tribes could have been descendent from mayan culture..originally, I dont’ know. They share some similarity in their myths (ie., the turtle myths…that the world is carried on the back of a giant tortoise). I guess anything is possible.

    My wife wanted me to add…that even if someone was well documented in the West after the tribe was relocated, that they might still have reasons to want to “loose” that identity. And that all they would have to do is never go by or mention/reference their registered name again. If their original lineage name was never mentioned to anyone, there would be no way for the family to trace it among the registered rolls/documents.

    She also wanted me to mention that many tribes have their “own” historical/linage records and these too are still referenced today. Most nations will do a lineage search for you through their records for a fee. But, if you “really” want to know if you have “any”….a dna/blood test is way to go.

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  48. DiveCon says: 49

    the Mayans were not in the area of the US, they were in the Yucatan peninsula area

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  49. Dc
    thank you and your wife for info, yes you are right on the tip of the nail with the DNA TEST,
    FANTASTIC IDEA, SHE SHOULD GET IT IF IT CAN BE DONE,
    DOES THERE ARE DNA’S BANKS SOMEWHERE IN THE OR IN SOME OF THE TRIBES? KEPT
    AND HOW DO YOU KEEP DNA? IS IN IT A LIVE THING?
    OR is it only a written record of the dna on paper kept,but then it could be played with by unscrupulous genealogists
    for profit making,
    bye

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