2008 all over again…..
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE8rCP0-ROs[/youtube]
Just retarded.
What is the object of this stagecraft? Are we supposed to be impressed with his calm demeanor in the face of obvious theater?
Or maybe, just maybe, she fainted due to lack of birth control eh?
See author page
@ilovebeeswarzone:
Mata- thanks for the places to look for translators– I have not always had such good luck with what I was using, like the Google example you offer above.
Bees– I am the third category of the old joke about what you call people who speak various numbers of languages:
2 languages = bilingual
3 languages = trilingual
1 language = American
I used to be able to order a beer in Japanese, Chinese, Tagalog (Filipino) and Spanish but that was the OJT product of 3 years in the Navy on a carrier in WestPac during the Viet Nam War. I never got further than that except for some basic functional Spanish when I lived in Tucson for 7 years.
As far as your commentary here, the native french speaking complicates it a little but I seldom have any real trouble figuring it out, The translation of your thoughts to English give them a charm that avoids the harsh down to business style of many of the other posters. AND, you frequently give me insights that make me chuckle or sit back and think. I missed your posts while I was gone and was glad to find you still here.
If I was able to learn ANY language, at the moment I would choose Latin! I would really play hell finding someone to converse with but it is the source of so many Western languages and the little I know has always helped me when reading and there are countless arcane books written in it.
@MataHarley:
http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/conversions/liquidvolume.php
Let me try to return the favor by posting this amazing website which has most every kind of converter you would ever need. They even have input for different materials that inserts the density of a material (oak wood, fine ground flour, concrete, brass, etc) when needed in a comp.
The link will take you to the page with volume conversions but there is a click box prominent on the page to convert volume>weight>volume. I use this page frequently– particularly back when I was starting to grind my own coffee beans and frequently needed to switch between ml->floz->oz->grams->ml until I found the right morning mix.
Dink Newcomb
hi,
I see that I scared you in telling which translation was the best,
and I think your brain is full of learned languages which by itself take quite a smart brain to learn,
I knew it, I had you figured out well before,
and LATIN ,yes is a foundation of many tongues as you said, but I only learned just a very firs bit,
rosa rosarium, there was another between those two, maybe rosas, that is the only memory I kept,
but STRANGE enough that first and only class I had, did lead me to for years understand new words by separating the word in parts, which made me get the meaning of many, I even did it as a fun game
just for the discovery of it, which amaze me at the time
I always enjoyed your comment also, and I think that you are among the BRAVEST
which I name the VETERANS WHO SERVED IN DIFFICULT YEARS IN THE WARS, AND YOU ALSO HAVE MY ADMIRATION FOR IT,
BYE
@MataHarley: #48
I hardly ever use a translator, but when I do, I like to take the phrase that was translated into another language and do a reverse translation and see how it comes back in English. It is one way to see how close the translation is, otherwise, you don’t know what you are saying to the other person. Sometimes it works best to just translate parts of a sentence at a time.
I am guessing this is why there are so many strange instructions for products from other countries.
Smorgasboard
hi,
je ne peus resister a votre commentaire, mais oui bien sure que vous avez raison de faire attention,
parce que il peut parfois avoir des definitions piegees dans une phrase qui semble tres innofensive
parfois mais cache un secret qu’il faut decouvrir!!!, voila mon ami.
bonsoir a vous
@Dink Newcomb: #52
If the schools around the world would start teaching sign language, eventually, everybody would be able to talk to everybody. I have suggested this to the Department of Education and different other schools and people. Think about how many conversations could be going on in the same room without a sound being made.
There wouldn’t be very many mistranslations by national leaders that lead to misunderstandings, like the “Reset” button.
@ilovebeeswarzone: #56
IntrTran says you said:
I ne peus resister has your comment , but aye all right elder as you have ground about look out , because he tin That’s all right entertain any definitions piegees in a sentence thanksggiving looks good tres innofensive That’s all right but hiding-place a secret qu’il blame decouvrir!!!, sail my friend. hello has you
Google says you said:
I peus resist your comment, but yes very sure you are right to be careful,
because it can sometimes have definitions TRAPPED in a sentence that seems very innocuous
but sometimes that a secret? must discover!, here is my friend.
Good evening to you
Yahoo says you said:
I peus to resist yes do not have your comment, quite sour which you are right to make attention, because it can sometimes have piegees definitions in a sentence which seems very inoffensive sometimes but mask a secrecy qu ’ it is necessary to discover!!! , here is my friend. good evening has you
##################################
This is why I suggest translating one sentence at a time, or parts of sentences. It takes extra time, but leads to a better translation. One problem in translating is that we say something in a certain sequence. Another country might say the same thing, only backwards from how we say it.
Smorgasbord
what a mess, here is mine translation; I cannot resist your comment, yes surely you are right
to be careful, because there could be sometimes some tricky definitions in a sentence which look
inoffensive sometimes but hide a secret which must be discover, that is it my friend
goodnight to you,
how do you like this translation? your translaters could start a war with their translation methods but GOOGLE DID BEST
yahoo second
bye
@Smorgasbord:
@ilovebeeswarzone:
From Google, using parts of sentences as suggested by Smorgasbord:
“I can not resist your comment, but yeah well sure you’re right to be careful, because it can sometimes have definitions TRAPPED in a sentence that seems very innocuous but sometimes it takes a secret discover! here is my friend. Good evening to you”
What a variation in translations you come up with using different software in different ways. Breaking the sentences down gave the most coherent translation.
Heck yes!
The famous Charge of the Light Brigade during the Crimean War was caused by confusion over a hastily and poorly written order, sent WITHOUT TRANSLATION from a Brit General to a Brit subordinate unit commander. This order precipitated the charge of 600+ light cavalry to charge down a valley at a well entrenched Russian artillery position where they were cut to pieces. I often think of this and shudder when I hear the casual, imprecise way of speaking that is becoming standard in this country. TV ads are some of the most egregious perpetrators of this.
Dink Newcomb
hi,
oh my, it really did start a war, how dangerous WORDS BECOME,
ON 59 it’s my own translation and I know is the best of all, even if I’m not totally fluent in ENGLISH,
SO yes if one depend on any of them totally as a life and death issue
they are surely dead upon receiving those translations, while mine will keep them alive,
here the part wrong; there was major changes in words even by GOOGLE, if you compare to mine,the only word I struggle with, was the word [ tricky] and could not find in my head the exact one to match, and GOOGLE PUT THE WORD [TRAPPED] CLOSER BUT STILL NOT EXACTLY THE ONE I was searching to translate, if I find it I will bring it to you,
and also on the end sentence, google goof, it was ;
but hide a secret which must be discover, not what they put in like;
but sometimes it take a secret discover, WRONG WRONG,
edit: what just came to mind for the words [ tricky or trapped]
are: [ willingly inserted, ] definitions in a sentence…….
or [ inserted willingly] or [deliberately inserted]
or[ willfuly inserted] or[ purpously inserted]
a good one here[ intentionally inserted]
bye
Dink Newcomb
hi,
I was wondering if the content of that ORDER translation and the real one, are somewhere to be check,
in our days, are they in this AMERICA OR IN THE COUNTRY YOU MENTIONED, THE WAR WAS MADE,
I think it is an important document to review by STUDENTS and all CITIZENS, CONCERNED OF ACCUATE WORDING IN ALL IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR occurrence in the one’s lives
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone: #59
One problem with translating into a different language is that one country might say something in a different way than another. Another problem is that not all countries have words that other countries do. For example, some parts of some countries don’t know what the Internet is, let alone use it, so they don’t have a word for it.
Smorgasbord
I didn’t think about it, yes very good to know, I tend to forget that internet goes to the WORLD WHICH HAS INTERNET, THERE MUST STILL BE PLACES WHERE just a few of the community has it or don’even has it. thank you for the reminder,
bye
@Dink Newcomb: #60
For the record, the Charge of the Light Brigade was successful. The calvary made it to the enemy because the enemy couldn’t adjust their canons fast enough for the advancing cavalry. It was after they made it past the canons that they were cut down because none of the other units advanced to the enemy.
Another reason for errors in translating into English is that our language is made up of different languages. Our language is one of the hardest to learn because of this.
Add in the different generations that come up with new lingo, and even make using the word “bad” meaning it is good.
@ilovebeeswarzone: #61
You brought up another way of mistranslating. The English language has so many different words that mean the same thing. Your word “tricky” is a good example. It depends on how the word is meant.
For example, “Making it through this part of the forest will be tricky.” The word “tricky” here means that many things could happen to the individual. “Be careful of this guy. He is tricky.” Here, the word “tricky” means the guy could try different things to “trick” you.
Smorgasbord
hi,
so you think the word tricky was right in my translation?
well it did fit the devil I was refering to, but I was not really sold on it, but my mind was block for other words, till this morning , I woke up with the other sets of 2 each, and came running while they where fresh in my mind, funny how the mind work, I must have capture those in a dream, good that I forgot my dream in case the devil was in it. bye
Smorgasbord
are you watching GINGRISH AFTER SPEECH OF HIS WIN IN GEORGIA,
he is good and credible, hope he can take it all.
bye
I apologize if I mislead anyone with my statement. I intended to type a two sentence discription of a complex battle to establish a case showing where language played a part in a disaster, not a dissertation on the battle itself which could easily outlast your determination to read it.
Since we are on the record, let me state MY OPINION that any battle that ends in a complete rout with the attackers fleeing willynilly back to their own lines in terror, coupled with the loss (killed, wounded, captured) of ~50% of those attackers could not possibly be called a success even in a Monty Python movie. A few gunners were killed but the cannons were NEVER in any way in peril of being permanently captured.
On top of this, when add the unpleasant fact that the cannons attacked were NOT the intended target of the order, your “success” turns into a prodigious tragedy. The target was actually abandoned Brit guns in a different place that the commanding General wanted protected from seizure by the Russians.
The “Valley of Death” was a kill box with guns on the hills on both sides in addition to those at the end being attacked. The gunners at higher elevation did have some problems depressing their guns adequately to greatly damage a fast moving light cavalry but it was NOT a stroll on the beach. After ordering the Light Brigade forward, Lord Lucan, the unit commander, started the second wave with HIS Heavy Brigade but after a few moments of watching the Light get cut up, turned the Heavy around to avoid having them slaughtered also.
Some of the ~650 cavalry did indeed get to the guns through the deadly fire and kill some of the Russian gunners but the Russian infantry, tasked with guarding the gunners, attacked immediately and routed the Brits who then had to ride BACK through the same hail of lead.
The major cause of this debacle was not the vague message but the arrogance of Aristocratic British officers that at that time BOUGHT commissions from the crown despite complete lack of any military skill. Friction between these egotistical Brit officers did not permit explanation of the vague message by (particularly) the courier, Captain Nolan. This flawed commission system was finally abolished (~1860s-70s) but arrogant, incompetant officers were a huge problem for the Brits, causing the apocalypse at The Battle of Islandhwana and continuing into WWI which in a large measure established the insanity of trench warfare.
This is only a small part of the battle story which can be read at many places around the net without the history revisionism so prevalent today. I suspect that you (Smorgasbord) need to avoid any reference source with Wiki being a part of the name. They are written by anyone with wits enough to type and concoct a good story, not by scholars who have actually researched the item under discussion. Wikis, blogs and personal webpages are a huge source of the untenable bad information that is found around the internet today and passed on endlessly as the truth.
Some odd facts about the participants:
Lord Raglan, the commanding General, gave his name to the Raglan sleeve, a comfortable way of attaching a sleeve to a garment. He favored this style due to loss of an arm.
British Lieutenant-General the Earl of Cardigan, the commander of the Light Brigade, gave his name to the cardigan sweater which he frequently wore.
@Smorgasbord:
You hit that one right on the head. They say that Eskimos have many words for snow but I doubt that Australian Aborigines or the people on Easter Island even understand the concept of frozen precipitation!
Dink Newcomb
hi,
I like that story a war epic of old times, very interesting to see that the method was different ,
but the human lives lost the same,
best to you.
@ilovebeeswarzone: #67
I only used the word “tricky” as an example to show how one word can have more than one meaning. I wonder if there is any other country that has more words that mean the same thing as the USA does.
@ilovebeeswarzone: #68
I don’t belong to any political party, so I can’t vote for any of them, so I’m not paying much attention to them. If I had to vote for any of them right now, it would be “NONE OF THE ABOVE.”
I don’t think anyone should be in office who can only say, “Vote for me, because I’m not as bad as the other candidate.”
Can anyone tell me of one solution for ANY problem we have that ANY candidate has offered? They are PROFESSIONAL candidates that give POLITICAL answers. They can only tell us that something needs to be fixed, but can’t say how they will do it. If they were mechanics, they would get very much repeat business.
@Dink Newcomb: #69
I hope I didn’t appear to be criticize you. I was just adding info. The charge itself was successful. They got through. That was what the brigade commander said could be done. Because of the miscommunication that you mentioned, it was useless, because they all died because nobody came followed them.
I was thinking the brigade commander did the charge on his own, but wasn’t sure if I remembered that part correctly.
I saw the story on a documentary. Another thing to keep in mind is who made the documentary. It was on one of the Discovery channels, so I figured it was accurate, although, they seem to be one of the global warming promoters, so I pay closer attention to there stuff now.
I don’t use Wiki anything, or any of Google’s stuff (because they are very liberal, don’t like to honor the military, and do editing), or buy Chinese stuff if I can help it, and I try to support local businesses.
@Dink Newcomb: #70
The Eskimos now want to be called Inuits, just like the midgets want to be called Little People. I try to look at things from the other person’s point of view and can understand why the two groups want the name changes. I can verify the Inuits myself, since I have been in an Inuit village in Greenland.
@Smorgasbord:
No offense taken nor any intended.
History is a passion of mine and I originally mentioned this battle as an example because I truly had just placed my copy of “The Reason Why” (1933) by Cecil Woodham Smith near my chair two or three days before to attempt a reread and it was on my mind. Your mention of it as a success is the first time I have EVER heard it called that. The reasons I listed
are to my knowledge, the truth. Perhaps the documentary you saw somehow meant that the mis-directed charge was successful because the target of the charge, despite being the wrong objective, was reached and momentarily seized. The fact remains that despite the killing of a few or all gunners and a short seizure of the guns, Lord Raglan intended the cavalry to attack a completely different and lightly defended target which he pointed out from his hilltop to the arrogant courier Capt. Nolan. When Nolan delivered the order to Lord Lucan in the valley, he was asked “What artillery?” because down there only the guns at the hellish end of the valley were visible. Nolan a self styled expert on cavalry tactics (he had written a book) and openly contemptuous of Lord Lucan, haughtily dismissed his superior with a vague wave of his hand and stated something like “There are your cannons sir”, whereupon he turned and walked away leaving Lord Lucan in confusion as to why he was being ordered to send his men there. The only cannons accessible to cavalry in sight were the guns at the far end of the valley that were attacked. Nolan, a foolhardy glory hound (think Custer and his rep from the Civil War) dashed out in front of the Light and was quickly killed in the charge thus he never had to answer for his unspeakable arrogance Much of the blame, like $#1t, trickled downhill onto Lord Cardigan who had been merely been ordered to charge and led it (except for the few moments that Nolan did before he died) bravely down the valley.
I watch quite a few of those documentaries and I notice frequent misleading statements (even from Nat Geo) made in them that are most likely (hopefully) attributable to trying to cram a complex situation into the few minutes left in an hour after the commercials take their pound of flesh. Even with my continued attempt at explanation, I have not covered all the complexities of this battle, many of which I no longer remember, which was the reason for the reread of the book in the first place. I probably should have just given a link to a reliable web page but this stuff, as I said, is my passion and gets me cranked up.
Inuit and little people are fine but I have made too many attempts to mollify sham offended negroes any more with periodic name changes. Negroes it is there, sensitivity be damned.
The attempt by liberals to un-insult American Indians by continually referring to them as native Americans won’t fly either. I am a native American (and very proud of it) as was my Father, his Father, his Father, and so on back about 13 generations to when they landed in SC in the early 1700s. I won’t pretend this gives me any status or prestige but I state that I have earned the right to retain the title seized by the wankers to be used by others. Besides, I spent 7 years in AZ working with many Indians and the only two I ever encountered who called themselves Native Americans were two women activists ( both great people BTW) who worked for the Federal Government.
Canada calls them Original Nations which sounds far more precise but the best title (IMHO) is Aboriginal Americans which will never work because of ignorance of what aboriginal means.
Dink Newcomb
hi,
you have shown that you have the ability to be in charge of a platoon, just by the way you figure the strategy of combat, this is what I see,
the thoughts which I could get from the story is that how tragic to see a group of many braves all along the history of wars having been led by leaders who lacked complete knowledge of the strategy in a war, and knowledge to how to delegate powers and to the right person,able to assume it fully, as oppose to an un-whorthy person, they are dangerously lead those braves to sure destruction because the lack of the need and knowledge of how to
know when the precise time has come to change the mission, or to bring the end in a win win, on
a mission they hold rigorously without any flexibility and lack of the ability to see with their guts which are missing, instead of their learned books and by holding their braves the same way, therefor take away the must do flexibility of the mission, which bring their braves desperate and many to kill themselves instead of aiming to find creative ways which they see before the stupid rigorous commander,
yes to find creative ways to circumvent their attack with a better victorious and safer winning completion of the same mission with more ways to win it, my view alone of the commander which
is one of those, which command a group of men and women, just like he would command a inanimate drone or rocket,
I might say for the INDIANS , that in CANADA THEIR NAME ARE RIGHTFULLY
THE FIRST NATIONS, and they have a GRAND CHIEF THEY CAREFULLY CHOOSE TO BE OF WISDOM AND DEDICATED TO THEIR OWN interest solving problems,
BEST TO YOU
@ilovebeeswarzone: Well Bees, that was all just a recital of history I have read about several times. I have absolutely no skills or interest to command others– in truth, in my dotage here, I am lucky to organize a trip to the grocery and I consider myself lucky if I can make that trip and come back with about 1/2 the stuff I started out to get, even with a list! I have found that winding your life down is a jerky series of humiliations and I expect to die of anger and frustration long before any bugs get me.
To sorta keep on blog topic here let me suggest a parallel between Obama and the grotesque hordes of Brit officers who for hundreds of years plunged incompetently into situations where they assumed they would prevail because they were British. Often, the best thing these men EVER did was to die along with the men they had caused to be murdered. There WERE extraordinary British officers in their armies but these great men’s efforts were often undone by aristocratic buffoons and one wonders how the empire prevailed. The empire ALWAYS owed a great deal to its navy and without it, Great Britain would not have been so great. Whenever I read about “Obama’s success” in killing bin Laden, I hope the world’s bad guys will laugh off the bluster and ignore this Uncle Tom fool.
The Brits got their asses handed to them in Afghanistan (a little earlier than The Crimean War [this war with the Russians]– the result of moving into Afghanistan to keep the Russians out of India) and when the thousands strong mostly Sepoy army and civilian multitude tried to leave Kabul (for India) they were constantly harried until only ONE man reached safety.
The ever optimistic Brits returned to Afghanistan again in ca. late 1870s-ca. early 1880s and were humiliated again in several battles. Does any of this sound familiar? Arrogant incompetents getting their men slaughtered to buff up their vanity and their image with swooning admirers?
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/sole-british-soldier-escapes-kabul
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1287227/The-British-Army-overwhelmed-Afghan-warriors–1842-So-learn-lessons-history-happens-again.html
BTW Bees doesn’t that warm a French -Canadian’s heart to hear about the British getting their butts kicked?
AND, yes, sorry about mis-stating Canada’s name for there aborigines– they are, of course First Nations. A wonderful description since there was no Canada (or America) before Europeans occupied all that “VACANT” land and many tribes now call themselves nations instead of tribes. Doesn’t one Canadian
tribeerr, ummm, nation even issue passports?Dink Newcomb
so funny for me to get you thinking that I am always here at my computer,
when the funny things is, that I happen to come to it, as you come in,it show how
we are synchronize,
again I stand firm in my belief that you have the skills I mentioned, just by your personal quotes beside the exposy of war epic, I did learn more of AFGHANISTAN FROM YOUR NEW INFO, AND IT REENFORCE MY THINKING OF GET THE AMERICANS OUT OF THERE, they AFGHANS are not to be trusted and are leaning toward the enemies we try to eliminate and the irony of it is to protect them and their woman in peril with that kind of oppression, well they deserve my own radical solution of what would be done to them using coward murdering our braves by shooting them in the back, our bravest are worth all the treasures of AMERICA and deserve that recognition
which solution is to level the ground the mob which are chanting hatred stand on that ground, and leave to come back home as victorious proud AMERICANS
now the call for more war has rang on, which is unacceptable, looking at how they are having difficulty ending the AFGHANISTAN WAR. unless they use only a nucleor bomb focus on the IRAN project
facility on an exact precision trajectory, which they can do, and even if they miss by a few feet, it would make the point they mean busyness with real actions,no military included
yes CANADA ISSUE PASSPORT TO CANADIANS, and there are many AMERICANS who live
and work in CANADA, but the FIRST NATIONS have the access to cross on both AMERICA
by signed treaty they hold from long time ago, I’M NOT SURE IF IT IS RESPECTED TODAY,
bye
Dink Newcomb
I want to continue by saying that I understand, you are going by as being denied your wish to do things because they are too selfish to accept it and do what you want to be done on your own time, it is abusing your right but they of course like to take your money, I know the scenario very well,
and the best solution is change for another who you know will do the same but with heartfelt actions you will enjoy instead of you dreading to ask a favor which I think you are paying for, take another route and you will enjoy your decision only after you realize how you should have done it a long time ago,
that will make you justified when you see the surprise you are giving those who though they had you under control, it alone is worth the change, and if those come and say anything, the best answer is, that is my way or the highway
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone:
If I understand you correctly, you think I said that I get cheated?
Not at all, I was whining, lamenting the things I am losing to advancing age and declining health. Social relations here are still OK but get sillier by the day.
Dink Newcomb
oops, sorry if I gave you that understanding, I more likely was refering to my dear sister now gone from a couple of years back, she had paralyse following a blood clog in her brain, made her ending up in a care hospital, and all was looking good as for care, until I start to check deeper and came in by surprise and found the employee abusing the patients, verbaly and other way, like those needed some help to be fed, where left after the soup which should have been followed by the meal, my sister was not able to speak
and found that to be a whole way of treating the most vulnerable people,
and I actively got in the act of trying to correct the abuse standard,like a wounded lion,
so I fought like a lion it help to bring more respect I thought you where having problem to get some help that you required, to go in grocery shopping or else, I’M GLAD it’s not so, sorry about it
bye
Dink Newcomb
did you hear that FOX NEWS,
THERE is a storm happening on the SUN,
WHERE SHOULD WE HIDE.
BYE
@Dink Newcomb: #76
I hated history, and never was much of a reader, but I like the video documentaries. My problem is that I don’t remember a lot of the stuff. I will be watching a documentary on TV and a long way into it someone will say something, or there will be a scene, and then I remember that I had seen this video some years before. Most of them I don’t mind seeing different times over the years.
I was not referring to the battle, just to the charge. If I remember correctly, the brigade commander tried to convince his commanders that a horse charge would work because the canons couldn’t adjust quickly enough. He proved them right, but it cost the life of every member of his brigade.
Referring to your comment about the blacks wanting to be called something else, usually African-American, I will call them one or the other, but not both. Since I have so many nationalities in me, I guess I should call myself “Mutt-American.” What they should do is get together with their organizations and come up with a name that they are content with.
I never thought about what the Native Americans wanted to be called. We should all keep in mind that:
(1) They were here first.
(2) They kept the colonists from starving and freezing to death.
(3) Every treaty they signed with us, they kept, but we broke.
(4) Every treaty they signed with us is still legally binding. We just choose to ignore them.
(5) We were the bad guys. If anyone doesn’t believe this, just read the “Trail of Tears” we put them on and other things we did to them to get their land, just because President Jackson (I think it was him) wanted the country to expand to the Pacific Ocean.
A full blooded American Indian comedian once said, “A lot of people say we should get rid of the foreigners in this country. I’m for that.”
Smorgasbord
hi,
that was good, it’s just to realize how far out the COMMANDER ARE DISCONNECTED FROM
THE REALITY OF HOW TO WIN A WAR, WE SURE COULD DO BETTER,
I always had the most respect for the blacks PEOPLE, WHO MOST OF THEM CONQUER THEIR PAST STRUGGLES, MAY ARE SUCCESSFUL AND POSITIVES, THEY TOO HAVE THEIR ENEMIES WITHIN THEIR RANK, FOR US HERE IT’S THE LIBERALS AND THE BAGAGES THEY BRING
LIKE THE MAYER’S CROOKED TONGUE,to name only one of the bunch’s despicable rhetoric,
and in CANADA THE FIRST NATIONS ARE WELL ORGANIZED THEY are still have to remind the PRIME MINISTER OF THEIR PROMISSES TO HONOR THE TREATYS MADE YEARS CENTURYS AGO,
THEY IMPROVE DEPENDING ON WHO IS IN POWER, WHICH IS TOO SLOW FOR THEM TO BE SATISFIED AT THIS TIME, I guess the same problems as in the UNITED STATES, when we stop to think that they FIRST NATIONS still own the land given to them by the GREAT SPIRIT THEY ARE UNITED IN FOLLOWING THE WISDOM GIVEN TO THEM FROM THE BEGINNING OF THEIR RACE, BAICLY PACIFIST
BYE
Smorgasbord
hi,
we went shopping my neighbour and I, she just came back home to find her COWS scattered on the road,
I told her it is FULL MOON and the SUN has a revolution, and only
ANIMALS can feel the EARTH SHAKING with fear,
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone: #86
I live near “Open Range” territory where the animals have the right-of-way on the highways. If a driver hits one, the driver gets a ticket and pays for the animal.
Smorgasbord
hi,
I like that mentality, and you have a governor who has great WISDOM, we well know that you can judge a person by the compassion they show to animals
changing subject, I just heard that OBAMA told the PALESTINIANS to not expect him to
involve himself with them ,because of the election time, that come from the PRIME MINISTER OF THE PEACEFUL PARTY IN PALESTINE, I guess that will be the same for other COUNTIES WHERE HATERS LIVES
TO NOT EXPECT SUPPORT FROM OBAMA UNTIL AFTER ELECTION,
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone: #88
I agree with you, but I think we are getting way off topic here.
CURT
SORRY for getting of topic,
it’s Dink Newcomb AND Smorgasbord, who carried me in war stories, they made me do it
bye
Smorgasbord
hi,
yesterday I came in with a comment and it did not pass go, but I was on the subject,
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone: #90
You’re sounding like a liberal now, blaming someone else. Ha Ha. Just kidding.
I like talking with you, but I tend to get way off of the subject and have to remind myself to get back on topic. I guess it is the truck driver in me.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
I hope I spelled that right, I’m not catholic!
I have been under the weather and out of circulation the last few days. I apologize for not participating lately, off or on topic. I am cranky enough in normal circumstances but display monumental curmudgeonry when feeling bad. I’ll keep up as/when I can.
Dink Newcomb
hi,
I knew , you come to criticize me for accusing you too, and it was my mean purpose,
and to spill the bean on your enticing me into changing my focus on the topic,
which I do many time, and enjoy it too.
I see you know your LATIN, I remember those words too.
I’m counting on you to keep up with my work of brain draining you
for intelligiencia knowledge pieces in memory you alone possess, even if you’re cranky, it will be more fun
for me to appease the beast in you,
take care, bye
Dink Newcomb
Smorgasbord
I THINK i FOUND THE WORD MORE PRECISE THAN THE WORD “TRICKY”
HOW ABOUT THE WORD ” SNARE ” HIDDEN IN A SENTENCE?
@Dink Newcomb: #93
I don’t belong to any religion and don’t know what language that is.
@ilovebeeswarzone: #95
A snare would be a form of a trap. Tricky here in America just means something might be hard to do. Just wait a few years and it could change. If you go back to the original dictionaries you will find that some words are actually the exact opposite of what they used to be. No wonder foreigners who come here have a hard time learning our language. Then you have the fact that different parts of the country use different words.
Smorgasbord
hi
I am listening to SHERIF about the certificat, thank you, I had seen another one last year,
but I think this is the recent most one right ?
so you don’t think my word “SNARE” is not good? I thought I had it ,
bye I’m going to your other comment at the link location,
bye
@Smorgasbord:
Language changes for many reasons:
>New situations– ex: technology changes and new words are created such as kilobyte or CDRom
>Ignorance and poor vocabulary is perhaps the most frequent (IMHO)– ex: in the 60’s the negro jargon word “funky” (originally=having an offensive smell; evil-smelling; foul) got traction with hippies determined to break from the culture seem to have felt it sounded a lot like “funny” and started using it in completely inappropriate ways
>???? apparently when
yousomeone uses words differently to sound cool– the link below is to Urban Dictionary which seems to be a way to permit users to keep up with the hugely dynamic dialect in the ghetto– I found the word “gully” during a “Treasure Island” reread and did a search for what kind of knife it was in the 18th century. This link was a search result which I followed and while I was sure that a modern definition would be different than 1740, there are 7 pages of definitions for this word at this site.@Smorgasbord:
I am with you Smorgasbord, tricky has so many meanings that it is tricky! But I think Bees had it pretty close with that word. Deceptive is another word that might fit pretty well. And confusing is another.
@Smorgasbord:
I am guilty, I am guilty, I am seriously guilty
It is Latin and part of one penitent’s prayer a confessor is told by a priest to recite to expiate sins. I am NOT Catholic and I know nothing beyond that.
Dink Newcomb
hi
that is too funny, imagine a dude asking you if you want a JIVE,
if you say yes you get knock out,
by the way , go check on the post ; why the Constitution [reader…
on 32 Smorgasbord link on the SHERIF CERTIFICAT
BYE