The Herman Cain “sexual harrassment” story has a few interesting side stories. The biggest?
Well, let’s see….anyone remember Journolist? This nugget of a story from July 2010:
Politico might be an online publication, a part of the New Media, but when it comes to corrupted, left-wing arrogance they make the Washington Post look somewhat honest … somewhat. Part of the reason I reserve a special place in my heart to store up a unique resentment for all things Politico is due to the very fact that they practice their dark arts online. Like a toxic virus they spread over to the Internet where the right (by design) and the left (by accident) are trying to forever kill off the very thing Politico is — wolfish left-wing propagandists hidden in the sheeps’ clothing of “journalism.”
And yet these are the same bastards “journalists” who launched a smear attack on a private citizen for asking Their One a perfectly reasonable question, obsessed over Sarah Palin’s wardrobe (and yet ranked Obama being asked about his relationships with Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers as a 2008 top-ten ”media blunder“), and though they occasionally find Levi Johnston worthy of note, Department of Justice whistleblower, J. Christian Adams, remained a ghost up until and including Ben Smith’s factually challenged Nothing-To-See-Here gift to his embattled president.
Oh, and did you know that some of Politico’s “journalists” were members of Ezra Klein’s now infamous JournoList, including Mike Allen, Lisa Lerer, and Mr. Ben “I-Got-Yer-Back-Barack” Smith?
Politico is the crew that “broke” the “sexual harassment” story.
Interesting.
It’s also interesting how this thinly sourced story, with third hand informants, was timed for release on Sunday, knowing it would make front page news on Monday.
Journolist redux?
That being said Mr. Cain’s campaign didn’t handle it very well…more reporting from Politico:
It’s difficult – if not impossible – to explain Cain’s reversal from earlier Monday, when he said he wasn’t familiar with cash payouts, period, with his later admission that he had discussed terms of settlement with the NRA’s general counsel.
In fact, Cain’s latest statements on Fox and PBS bear a close resemblance to his campaign’s first response to POLITICO when asked about harassment charges under his leadership. “This was settled amicably among all parties many years ago,” Cain’s spokesman told POLITICO over a week ago. He subsequently said he was not referring specifically to a legal settlement.
He is a shoot from the hip guy that’s for sure, but he really needs to tighten the ship on his campaign. In the end I can’t agree more with Krauthammer:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8OukOI14FQ[/youtube]
Krauthammer – The problem that Cain has is that he’s winging it. He’s a very smart guy and he’s trying to handle everything as he remembers stuff. The problem is that this happened a long time ago and we saw him contradict himself on whether he knew about the settlement. He said in the beginning no, and then on the Greta show he talks about details of it. What he needs to do, and it’s not as if he’s lying, people don’t…I can’t remember what I had a lunch yesterday let alone what happened fifteen years ago, he needs to retire with his staff to make sure he knows the facts, call people who might remember it, and get the story in his own head straight otherwise he’s in deep trouble.
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Is THIS ”sexual harassment?”
It may be April Fools Day, but XXXXX was acting like it was Valentine’s Day. He was in full charm mode while touring the Tama Manufacturing plant, a JC Penny supplier of made-in-the-USA clothing in Allentown.
XXXXX was especially flirtatious today, winking and grinning at the female workers who were swooning behind their cell phone cameras…
During the 25-minute tour, XXXXX called a woman ‘sweetie,’ and thanked her in spanish…
But XXXXX lavished compliments on dancewear manufacturer Marisa Cerveris explaining she was once in the New York City ballet.
“You look like you might be a dancer,” XXXXX told her, later adding: “You’re big time.”
“You’re gorgeous,” he told Cerveris after glancing at one of her old ballet photos.
ONE DAY LATER:
“What do I need to do? [to get your vote] Do you want me on my knees?” he asked. He then conceded, keeping with his flirty trend of the day (see earlier report), “I’ll give you a kiss.”
THREE YEARS LATER:
Friction about the roles of women in the XXXX workplace grew so intense during the first two years that he was forced to take steps to reassure senior women on his staff that he valued their presence and their input.
At a dinner in November 2009, several senior female aides complained directly to XXXXX that men enjoyed greater access to him and often muscled them out of key policy discussions.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/01/african-american-politicians-treatment-of-women-questioned/#ixzz1cT5Zmr9S
XXXXX is NOT Herman Cain.
XXXXX is Obama.
LAS predicts the public will give Cain a mulligan on the “message handling” thing – because the public is sick and damned tired of professional
liarspoliticians who are “adept” at the “gotcha” game. The same mood also guarantees the sum total of the smear ultimately redounds to Cain’s benefit: because it gives him a bloody shirt to wave to the rest of the insurgency, neatly wrapping Politically Correct overlawyering and vicious MSM bias into one neat little package. if this is all tha attack machine has … heh! Let’s just patiently wait for the polling …d(^_^)b
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
“Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”
Is this “story” just a diversion so Obama doesn’t look so bad?
A way to keep our economy off the front page?
While Obama talks raising taxes on anything that moves (families making over $200,000/year)
we sift past these Herman Cain sex headlines to find these:
Obama is heading to Europe to the G-20 where he planned to tout his part in the Grecian recovery.
OOPS!
Bad timing!
The Greeks have turned down the bailout referendum for all of its’ austerity demands.
The Obama weekend document dump showed a White House presidential adviser was exchanging emails with the Gunrunner/Fast & Furious head.
The emails were damning in and of themselves.
Worse, Obama quickly assigned his White House man to a drug task force IN IRAQ!
Then the phone number for that position was disconnected.
This man is off the radar.
When will he return?
Will he come back in a coffin?
MORE: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47159
See?
We HAD to have a sex scandal involving a Republican!
We now know: The 2012 republican candidate will be Mitt Romney.
Forget the sexual harassment business. Most people won’t vote for a man who breaks into a tuneful hymn–or The Hills are Alive–during a press conference. Cain’s no more serious than Palin was. Like Palin, and Gingrich, Cain’s media run has only about the many benefits that go with being in the spotlight. He hasn’t put together a real campaign organization.
You can forget Perry. Perry’s New Hampshire syrup performance was so freaking weird it put him totally out of the running. I wasn’t just a weird moment. I was weirdness that just didn’t stop. It’s like watching a looped tape of the Dean Scream that goes on for 25 minutes.
Who’s left, boys and girls?
Mitt Romeny. Nobody else would stand a chance of being elected.
Hey wilson the half-wit, Cain was asked to close with a song. It wasn’t spontaneous. Go root for romney elswhere, troll.
http://www.therightscoop.com/herman-cain-sings-at-national-press-club-he-looked-beyond-my-faults/
Better to be half-wit than to have no wits at all.
Perry’s New Hampshire syrup speech. Was he on drugs, or is this what happens when he isn’t?
@Wilson:
Are you on drugs when you post here, or is this what you’re like sober?
@Aye: Wilson, please get a bottle of Windex for the fogged window in your stomach. You need a clean window to see out. For the rest of us: BOHICA!
Judging from all the interesting typos in my post here, someone might think I was on drugs.
@Wilson:
Or should be…
Sharing a fitting email: (For WILSON)
Friends;
Are you ready for a “Change” in our leadership? Have you seen anything come from the past three and a half years but class warfare, racial prejudice and avarice from the current oligarchy? Are you fed-up with watching America being transformed from a super-power to a third world military force with a failing economy? Or, if not these, are you tired of seeing America brought to it’s knees apologizing for all of the blood our families have spilled freeing the oppressed around the world?
Have you noticed how the G.O.P. party, as well as the ‘News Sources’ have, for the most part, ignored Herman Cain, instead shoving ‘their’ Republican candidates for president to the forefront? It is interesting that the “news” from the last couple of days have attempted to slander Cain for sexual indiscretions while “reserving details”… (Apparently an old-discredited-false-accusation from twenty years ago that had basically been seeking blackmail to ‘buy-off’ the magpies ALLEGEDLY offended at the time). One would think that Democrats would still be so embarrassed over their previous presidential selections’ use of his cigar in the Oval Office they would shelf the sexual innuendos; especially the conjured up ones. …They are desperate.
The upshot was HERMAN CAIN’S ONLINE DONATIONS YESTERDAY WERE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH! Seems the people can instantly recognize the Liberal demagoguery for the B.S. that it is.
We are tired of America being demeaned, degraded and driven onto the rocks by the current administration. We are past ready for the “Change” that was promised. And, we are not going to accept any G.O.P. candidate being jammed down our throat just because ‘they’ have been deemed appropriate by the powers to be. The class warfare and racial ‘bombs’ were created for a purpose by this current administration specifically to guarantee a second term… one that will assure America as we know it, is terminated. [read: Republican type of government to a Marxist dictatorship]
Cain can defuze both of these ‘bombs’ and figuratively break their back. This is what ‘they’ are really afraid of, most certainly not any of the other G.O.P. selections.
We are convinced Cain is an honest and righteous man; someone America has not seen in the white house for a long time. We have never donated to a presidential candidate in the past but feel so strongly that this is the last hope to preserve the Republic that we have donated to both Cain and Col. Alan West (R-Florida). Proud to say the last Cain infusion we made contributed to the “bounce”. If all of us who believe in preserving this country as we know it for our children and grand-children would do the same quite possibly we could wrench Obama and his czars and cronies out and get Cain (hopefully with Colonel West as VP) into the oval office.
If you agree, PLEASE consider making a donation at HERMANCAIN.COM/DONATE . Any donation now, would add an even greater ‘bounce’ to the Cain for president campaign and accentuate the fact that derisive and demeaning accusations from the Liberals will only spur on more opposition against them.
Some details about one woman who is behind these allegations paint a picture of a LIBERAL:
“She attended an Ivy League school and now works for the federal government. ”
Her lawyer,Joel P. Bennett, has a rather bent view on what Cain said to Greta Van Sustren, too:
“he disagrees with Cain’s statements that the settlement agreement with his client was only for severance. ”
Um, who else listened to the interview?
Cain never said that.
He said her settlement was LIKE a severance in that it was around a two or three months’ pay amount.
He said anyone leaving the National Restaurant Association could have gotten that much just in leaving.
IF it was true that her settlement was for 2 or 3 months’ pay (or thereabouts) and she also got a 2 or 3 months’ severance then she got twice what others who leave got.
But Cain didn’t go into that much detail.
MORE:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/lawyer-cain-accuser-wants-to-talk-but-is-barred-by-agreement/2011/11/01/gIQA0bOIdM_story.html?hpid=z1
We need someone who is business savvy and that is Cain. Because he’s a Conservative I have faith he will make the right calls on national defense as well.
@Wilson, #6:
My own guess would be that Perry was suffering from an episode of acute hyperglycemia as a result of chugging a couple of bottles of maple syrup immediately before taking to the stage. This could explain his strangely enthusiastic reaction upon being presented with yet another bottle.
We could consider this a new variation on the so-called “Twinkie defense.”
Regarding your earlier comment about Herman Cain, I rather like his singing. A singing president might really throw America’s enemies off balance. I see no reason why a State of the Union speech shouldn’t include a brief musical interlude.
Lol, love seeing winguts twist ad squirm and blame this on anybody else but Cain. He’s toast guys, why look like fools ?
Yet Obama was given a “pass” on his “indiscretions”. The media never fails to disapoint.
@Wilson:
You got 10 negatives so far; what does that tell you??
@liberalmann:
Of course you recognize your own double standard here; Bill Clinton was guilty of or accused of 10 or 20 sexual indiscretions–not hand gestures which were not specifically sexual, but dropping his trousers in front of one woman–and you probably see Clinton as one of the best Democratic presidents.
If you even once defended Clinton in the past for his sexual actions, then you would be hypocritical to act as if Cain has done something horrendous here.
Generally speaking, most liberals probably don’t think that Cain has done anything horrendous.
Generally speaking, while most liberals found Bill Clinton’s behavior inappropriate, they didn’t judge it to be something horrendous. What was horrendous was that private sexual behavior between consenting adults–one of whom was a president–was made public, turned into the topic of a Congressional investigation, and made the central focus of national attention for over a year–all to the exclusion of far more important matters.
Generally speaking, it’s conservatives who totally fixate on this sort of thing. It’s conservative voters whose opinion of Herman Cain turns on such a story, not liberal voters. Most liberal voters probably couldn’t care less about what was probably nothing more than a nuisance suit brought by some annoyed female employee against a male superior who may or may not have been out of line. Blame the war between the sexes, and attorneys out to shake down whoever they can by any means available to make a buck.
Cain should listen closely to the advice of Krauthammer a highly respected Conservative. If he blows it off he’s toast and it will be Gingrich’s turn to move up to challenge Romney.
From the Comments Section:
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/02/ap-exclusive-third-worker-says-harassed-by-cain/#ixzz1caJpT6aW
Yup.
A 3rd woman has come forward saying this.
AWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of Perry’s operatives (Chris Wilson) has admitted being behind at least one of these stories.
http://www.businessinsider.com/pollster-says-he-saw-what-cain-did-and-itll-probably-be-the-end-of-his-campaign-2011-11
Read it closely.
HE didn’t have any confidentiality restriction YET he is keeping mum about who she is.
He wants, instead, the female to break a confidentiality agreement and talk about it.
@Nan G:
“…HE SCARED me too?” Sounds like she was ‘coached and primed’ by an ambulance-chaser…
Perhaps Herman should have just told the poor lady like it probably was; “You are too butt-ugly to be working in a public job position … !” Maybe he found himself in a ‘Catch-22’ and decided it was more ‘gentlemanly’ to tell her she was attractive and not fire her?… He’s going to be called a “Terrible human being” by her either way! Maybe he is just too g-e-n-t-l-e-m-a-n-l-y…
WDF, Red Blooded All American Male that loves it to the max, the fairy Wilson and the other COWARDS want some sort of Tinkerbelle; well idiot box, you and your ilk elected one. “Third unidentified female, protecting her anonymity”, raises her voice in accusation with no further follow up such as verification and thorough analyses of all mitigating circumstances. PoliticoDemeDolts and AP (Ape Prigs) don’t stop at three when you can dumpster dive and dig up thirty more. “Harold, come more more for ransom for as you can see our hearts are firm and bodies in the trim so tell your Obamashit masters that for as to ransom he shall have none.”
Re: #17
“You got 10 negatives so far; what does that tell you??”
It tells me how many people who see the post don’t like reality or are out of touch with it.
A poll taken after TWO DAYS of media blitz against Herman Cain shows businessman Herman Cain leads the GOP field in South Carolina with former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney 10 points behind!
RESULTS:
South Carolina’s Likely Republican Primary Voters shows
Cain with 33% support,
Romney at 23%
Gingrich at 15%
Texas Governor Rick Perry earns nine percent (9%)
Texas Congressman Ron Paul five percent (5%)
Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann two percent (2%)
Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum and former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman each pick up one percent (1%),
as does “some other candidate.”
Ten percent (10%) remain undecided.
(To see survey question wording, click here.)
@Wilson:
A leftist trying to lecture anyone on reality? Buwahahahahahahaha!
Little hint that will just bounce off your thick skull, your entire belief system is based on denial of reality. Leftists like you really are mentally ill.
Bob Dylan sang a song with this haunting lyric, “A White Man walking a Black dog”. It was a shocking lyric for me in the 60’s, but now the thought of a Republican walking Cain like a Black dog is insanely funny. How many Americans could stand up to the intellect and integrity of Cain. Liberals are making a huge mistake, trying to cast Cain as a stupid man, who does the bidding of Conservatives, soon have this strategy backfire on them; however, it is amusing.
So let me get this straight…the story is weak and thinly sourced from Politico, so it should be ignored, even though it has now been confirmed multiple times, including by the candidate himself.
Let me get this straight. We should ignore this story because the Journolist people discussed stories ahead of time, which is very un-journalistical, and the fact that the Journolist argument has surfaced simultaneously on four conservative commentary sites somehow makes that point stronger.
We should ignore this because there’s actually no such thing as sexual harassment–it’s a liberal canard. The sexual harassment terror cited by anti-gay conservatives is different, because it’s not sexual but cultural.
And by the way, we should ignore this story because biyotch set me up. There’s a catchphrase that will work well to propel Mr. Cain into high office in Washington.
Or we should ignore because they were asking for it, because it’s sexual, not cultural. Rape isn’t, that is.
Got it. Nice work. Put me down as ‘convinced.’
ice9
Let us suppose, sexual harassment has evolved since the days of Bill Clinton. Back in the 90’s, if you didn’t rape a woman or pull down your shorts to wriggle your bean in front of someone, a woman could say she felt uncomfortable and a boss at work was liable. Guess what happened, the courts realized that women were working the system to milk every dime they could get; especially, when they were about to get fired.
Insurance companies handled the complaints and they often decided to settle out of court to avoid the costs of litigation. It was understood the charges were usually bogus, that was understood. The person who was the accused was not in on the negotiations and often knew almost nothing about the circumstances.
The charges were dubious back then, but now that the rats are running around the outhouse for 15 minutes of fame and probably a check from a Liberal benefactor; we will be bombarded with a deluge of outrage from middle aged bimbos who feel they have been ignored for too long.
The liberals will unleash their yellow journalists by the hundreds to drag up stories of neurotic women with runaway libidos who are having a case of the vapors 15 years after the fact. A Black Conservative sure gets the blood boiling.
@ice9:
maybe you can get things straight but if not then please – please – please no not be part of the Loyal Band of Brothers standing with our hearts true and bodies firm in devotion to Herman Cain.
“That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is called the feast of Crispian”
ACT 4, Scene III
@ice9:
[quote]”So let me get this straight…the story is weak and thinly sourced from Politico, so it should be ignored, even though it has now been confirmed multiple times, including by the candidate himself.
Let me get this straight. We should ignore this story because the Journolist people discussed stories ahead of time, which is very un-journalistical, and the fact that the Journolist argument has surfaced simultaneously on four conservative commentary sites somehow makes that point stronger.
We should ignore this because there’s actually no such thing as sexual harassment–it’s a liberal canard. The sexual harassment terror cited by anti-gay conservatives is different, because it’s not sexual but cultural.
And by the way, we should ignore this story because biyotch set me up. There’s a catchphrase that will work well to propel Mr. Cain into high office in Washington.
Or we should ignore because they were asking for it, because it’s sexual, not cultural. Rape isn’t, that is.
Got it. Nice work. Put me down as ‘convinced.’”
???
You’re making about as much sense as a 5-year old sitting on the pottie contemplating his morning poo-poo!
LIBERAL DEMIDOLTS: Poll vaulting over rat turds, now the stups are adding the word “rape”, there never existed anything remotely near a situation closed as rape. I need to study this scenario closer but if Perry or Rummy were either one part of this package there will be a loss of a lot of contribution support.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/01/african-american-politicians-treatment-of-women-questioned/#ixzz1cT5Zmr9S
is chock full of proof that what Obama does is far worse than any of these allegations against Cain.
Notice NAMES and particular acts are given, some of them even caught on video!
Yet Obama got elected!
On top of that Obama admitted snorting cocaine!
Yet he got elected!
Compare the two men’s resumes.
Cain has had an amazing career.
Obama had to pad his empty suit with two (TWO!) supposedly auto biographies.
Had the media done its due diligence on Obama he never would have beat Hillary.
@Greg:
You do realize that much of Clinton’s behavior was not between consenting adults, right?
@rich wheeler:
Although Cain has not handled this perfectly, and Krauthammer does give sage advice, the problem is really, the media thinks that they have discovered the sexual misconduct of the century. If this were anyone on the Democratic side, it would be virtually ignored as being rather uninteresting. I give you John Edwards as proof of that.
@Skookum:
And when they are done with this, I want them to investigate Herman Cain’s library card as well.
@Nan G:
Let me paraphrase Rush: How much ego can a man have to write 2 autobiographies before he’s done anything of note?
Boy!
If it doesn’t hurt Cain politically it is not going forward.
Talk about there being no ”there,” there!
Lawyer: Cain accuser ‘sees no value’ in revisiting case’
A women who reportedly accused Republican presidential contender Herman Cain of sexual harassment, decided Friday not to issue a public statement on what happened.
The National Restaurant Association’s counsel have been “cooperative” and “mutually satisfactory,” [toward her issuing a statement] that would not violate the confidentiality and non-disparagement provisions of a 1999 settlement agreement.
“The American people are starting to see through this stuff, and they are sick of gutter politics,” Cain declared in a radio interview with conservative commentator Sean Hannity on Thursday.
Cain’s campaign announced Thursday he has raised $1.2 million this week since the allegations first surfaced on Sunday in a big boost from supporters.
The news appears to have had little impact so far on Cain’s standing in the GOP race. An ABC News/Washington Post poll released Friday morning — the first survey conducted entirely after news of the alleged harassment broke — showed Cain in a dead heat with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney atop the GOP field.
According to the poll, 24% of Republicans and independents who lean toward the GOP now say they support Romney, compared with 23% for Cain.
wow, it’s been a long time since i’ve posted here. for those that don’t know me and in the interest of full disclosure: i am a liberal and an avid supporter of our president. with that being said, i think herman cain handled this issue like a pure rookie. he had 10 days to get develop a response to these allegations. you can’t handle these things on a fly. i’m with wilson, mitt romney will win the nomination even though in any other year he would be toast.
jimmy… aka James from quite a while ago. Welcome back. Yes, folks… one of FA’s more polite and thoughtful liberals has returned. Nice to see you again.
No disagreement that Cain has not handled this event well. One might think that it’s a human reaction to really want to talk about something that is sealed records, and not within civil agreements to speak of when you feel wronged.
But I would disagree that any “rookie” status has any bearing on his qualifications as CiC. We’ve been dealing with “rookie” responses… from beer summits and really dumb foreign policy moves… since 2009. One might consider “rookie” now a legit qualification for the WH. And since Clinton, we sure know that sexual accusations… let alone admitted sexual activities… sure doesn’t disqualify one.
Thus why conservatives don’t care, and his campaign is still raking in the bucks. Liberals can’t possible care, and it would be foolhardy for them to play this game in light of the Clintonian history, don’t you think?
#41: “…polite and thoughtful liberals”
aka: “Dodo.”
d(^_^)b
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
“Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”
How about this option? What Cain has said is true; that he has not sexually harassed anyone; and that this was pretty far off his radar screen, then what he has done is fine.
What we have is 3 women, 2 of which said what he did, did not quite come up to the standard of sexual impropriety; and a 3rd who did not think it did at the time, but now thinks maybe it did. None of them are willing to say, “I am Charlene Brown” and none of them are giving details.
And the press is running stories on such threadbare material calling what may not be a cover-up a cover up. How many times have we heard “the cover-up is worse than the crime” this past week? There may not be a cover up and there may not be a crime. There may simply be a media which is so afraid of Cain, that they are willing to attack him with the least amount of substance. It could be that it is simply the excess of the media that makes it seem as though Cain is floundering and hiding something.
I think that RICK PERRY SHOULD FIRE WILSON,
hey WILSON YOU’RE FIRE
MR TRUMP, I always wanted to say that,
bye
jimmy
I don’t think MITT ROMNEY CAN DEBATE VERY WELL.
HE GET RED IN THE FACE JUST AS RICK PERRY WHO IS A STRAIGHT SHOOTER, START TO DEBATE WITH HIM.
IT SHOW THAT MITT ROMNEY IS TO SHY TO BECOME PRESIDENT,
NO SORRY TO DISAPOINT YOU,
THIS PRESIDENCY IS A JOB FOR RICK PERRY AND CAIN.
C-SPAN has a debate between just Herman Cain and Newt starting in 1 1/2 hours.
It will be worth the watch.
More on it here:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/42075
gary kukis,
how about WEINER STORY THEY DON’T FOLLOW UP ON IT?
WHAT IS THE REST OF THE STORY?
@ilovebeeswarzone:
I have seen way more of Weiner than I ever wanted to. I am happy that this story died. Although his wife is a total babe. No idea how that ever happened.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
This, Bees, is a unique argument. 🙂