Weekly Open Thread – Harry Reid Feeling Left Out Edition

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) confronted White House budget director Jack Lew during a Thursday afternoon meeting about secret talks on a deficit-reduction deal between the president and Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

“I’m the Senate majority leader — why don’t I know about this deal?” Reid demanded as soon as the budget director walked into the historic Mansfield Room for a meeting with Senate Democrats, according to a lawmaker who witnessed the exchange.

Lew shot back: “If there’s a deal, then the president doesn’t know about it, the vice president doesn’t know about it and I don’t know about it.”

A Senate Democratic aide confirmed the exchange took place.

…“It was a heated session,” said a senior Democratic senator who attended the lunch. “There’s a basic lack of trust with the president.”

The lawmaker said the lack of trust stems from what they suspect are secret negotiations taking place between Obama and Boehner, without the input of Reid and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.).

“Harry’s not being included!” exclaimed the second senator.

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Why doesn’t Reid know about anything? I’d guess because he doesn’t know …… diddly anyway.

So let me get this straight. Reid is upset and Pelosi is upset, because the their view is that they are being left out of talks on the budget/debt ceiling? Where was their outrage in support of the Republicans during the period they were discussing, crafting, and drafting Obamacare with the WH?

Personally, I don’t like the idea of any Republican, especially those that call themselves conservative(even if they aren’t), having any kind of secret talks with Obama on anything. Nothing good can come out of it. But even assuming that is true, Boo F***ing Hoo, Harry! As the saying goes, “what goes around, comes around.” Take it like a man, or shut the hell up!

As he is bringing Cap and whatever to the floor today, refusing to allow debate and force a vote to toss it out in his eyes, as he says the only plan anyone has put out is the worse piece of legislation in history, as he has steadfastly refused to bring forward any plan and in fact any budget to a vote much less to public knowledge, one should not give a damn whether he feels left out of anything! The man. like his leader he so reverently serves is a cancer on this country that is eating away at our soul! He deserves nothing but our scorn and I’m being nice here for a change!

Brinkmanship is being played with all of our futures.
There is only one good thing about the idea of a default:
People, like so many in business, with ”money on the sidelines,” will see the interest rates go UP on all of their cash, treasury and bond savings.
Of course, inflation will also be going up.
So, the poor will be getting pretty mad.
We might see the same types of food rioting that got the Middle East inflamed.
But I will predict these elected officials will do something to avert actual default.
(Actual default having virtually nothing to do with the Aug 2nd ”deadline.)

It’s not Brinkmanship if there’s no real Brink…No borrowing does NOT mean default unless it’s deliberately played that way by Obama and his minions.

Of every dollar that the treasury spends this month, forty cents will be borrowed…stop borrowing, and you can still pay out that 60 percent of the business-as-usual-amount which is actual revenue to cover Social security, military payroll, VA benefits, medicare, medicaid, and interest on the debt. Common sense dictates that No borrowing really doesn’t mean we default on anything unless we keep spending like junkies buying heroin.

Send the DC bureaucracy beyond that required to keep those programs paying on a furlough and you actually can continue along crisis-free while the healthy debate on the appropriate role of Government continues…while standing beside the shining example of what happens when the bulk of the non-essential bureaucrats don’t go to work…i.e., NOTHING BAD HAPPENS…Life goes on! Wow!

Dump all the extraneous things like NPR, National endowments for the Arts and Humanities (gosh…that would mean someone can’t get paid for pissing in a jar with a crucifix or wrapping fabric around trees, or touting a revisionist history of WWII that paints US as the evil empire and if someone wants to listen to Clerk and Clark, the Tapout brothers, or Garrison Keillor on Hairy Prone Companion they can find them on the web, podcasts work…for small audiences like theirs), stop payments and grants to all NGO’s, defer all foreign aid payments (they’re unappreciated in most cases and line the pockets of dictators in too many places), and you just might find that we can actually live within our means while we dismantle Obamacare…

You got it right Kalashnikat if we stopped giving all foreign monies and programs that are being abused we could do a lot better…Plus try and push term limits because these career politicians are not there for us they are there to line their pockets how can they give themselves a raise when people are loosing their jobs, homes and are trying to make ends meet…….Just like all these secret meetings should be made public after all we are the ones paying their salaries…………..

Harry Reid will become totally irrelevant come 2013. Go back to losing a war in Iraq and complaining about smelly American tourists that stink up Congressional Washington.

Nancy can continue explaining how the Catholic Church condones abortions. Don’t forget her 500,00o,000 American jobs and her absolute naivete of enhanced interrogation techniques.

Both are irrelevant has beens.

I guess Reid won’t feel so alone ….now.

House Speaker John Boehner has walked away from negotiations with Obama over a deal to raise the debt limit.

“In the end, we couldn’t connect.

Not because of different personalities, but because of different visions for our country,” Boehner said in a letter to colleagues.

He said Mr. Obama ” is emphatic that taxes have to be raised” and “adamant that we cannot make fundamental changes to our entitlement programs.”

“For these reasons, I have decided to end discussions with the White House and begin conversations with the leaders of the Senate….”

CBS News

Nan G, hi,
you know ,I think that OBAMA to be spitfull, could apply the MARXIST RULE on
august second taking the momentum to USE HIS POWER OF EXECUTIVE ORDER, AND
DECLARE A MARSHALL LAW TO BE APPLIED, BY STATING THIS FOR SECURITY REASONS,,
MUCH ALIKE THE TSA STARTED FOR SECURITY REASONS, BUT MANY SEE IT AS A MEAN TO CONTROL THE MASSES,
JUST THOUGHT OF THE POSSIBILITY, BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN DROPPED BY BOOMER NOW AND MUST BE IN RAGE, AND WOULD NOT CARE WHO HE PUNISH,
AND THAT WOULD BE ALL AMERICANS