24 Responses to Issa Warns – Spare The Whistle Blower; ATF Fires Him

  1. Nan G says: 1

    We should be very concerned that, as with the New Black Panther Party members’ voter intimidation, Obama can and will keep the lid on this illegal operation.
    The media is incredibly quiet about it and Obama’s inner circle know how to keep quiet, too.

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  2. Aye says: 2

    Can someone remind me again how many people died as a result of Watergate?

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  3. did they get involved with the mafia, it look like it

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  4. Patvann says: 4

    This makes Iran/Contra look like jaywalking.

    Media coverage and outrage in 3.2.1……Oh wait, “god” is president, so nothing to see here.

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  5. It take a brave man to come up with the truth and expose those in leadership positions ,
    and denounce their skeems underneat a criminal event they let happenned to secure their affiliation with other
    who put them at their position they are in now,
    and that brave man is fired for having take a courageous stand to go public, no matter what,
    those person are fewer and fewer in a society who prefer to follow the wrong doer, because they can save their neck on doing so. shame on them for cowardly fire that special breed of man,
    they should be shun out by their members and spit at,
    like cowards and guttles they are

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  6. Skookum says: 6

    Besides the Border Agent Brian Terry, Mexican officials put the number of Mexican nationals that have been killed with “Gunwalker” weapons at 150. This puts the number at 151 cases of murder that is a direct responsibility of the Holder’s and Obama’s Justice Department.

    The ATF became part of the Justice Department following 9/11.

    From the recent congressional report on Fast and Furious, called Gunwalker by the agents:

    In the fall of 2009, the Department of Justice (DOJ) developed a risky new strategy to combat gun trafficking along the Southwest Border.…The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) implemented that strategy using a reckless investigative technique that street agents call “gunwalking.” ATF’s Phoenix Field Division began allowing suspects to walk away with illegally purchased guns.

    This shift in strategy was known and authorized at the highest levels of the Justice Department. Through both the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona and “Main Justice,” headquarters in Washington, D.C., the Department closely monitored and supervised the activities of the ATF.

    Murder aside, Gunwalker violated federal law. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 922 states that only a licensed dealer or manufacturer can engage in interstate or foreign firearms commerce. It’s a federal offense for a person to buy a gun intended for another (straw buyer).

    The congressional investigation has revealed that multiple agents reported the illegality of “Gunwalker” firearm sales and reported them; their superiors ignored the reports and ordered the felonies to proceed.

    The agents have faced punishment and retaliation for their efforts to follow the law, from ATF and Justice Department Leadership.

    The Attorney General is supposed to be the country’s leading law enforcement officer, Holder’s Department of Justice has intentionally violated the law.

    Holder and Obama’s Justice Department have also violated the Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989.

    This law was enacted to prevent reprisals against employees who want to reduce corruption and fraud within the government.

    Whistleblower claims are handled by the U.S. Office of Special Counsel, they consider reprisals “a prohibited personnel practice”.

    The Cover Up:

    Obama claimed he is “committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in government.” There must be a caveat somewhere, when Isa subpoenaed Holder and Obama’s Justice Department for Gunwalker documents they were so redacted as to be solid black pages.

    From the congressional report:

    The Department of Justice has repeatedly and steadfastly denied that any guns were walked under Operation Fast and Furious. According to the narrowest possible interpretation, a gun is walked only when an ATF agent physically places an AK-47 into the hands of a straw purchaser and then lets that straw purchaser walk out of sight.

    The Constitution enables Congress to impeach federal officials. Article 2, Section 4:

    The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

    Congress has enough evidence of crime to impeach Holder and possibly try him criminally, but again those nasty caveats, does Boehner have the huevos to press the issue or is he too much of a wimp or are they waiting to see if Obama knew of the illegal actions and are hoping to go all the way to the top with their impeachment proceedings. The Justice Department is arguing that unless an agent hands the weapon to a drug cartel agent, there is no crime committed; of course this type of definition of “is” argument only stands when you have wimpy prosecutors. By the same argument, the Justice Department can now sell Mexican Drugs in the US if they never hand out the drugs on the street.

    Have we become a country that has allowed the president to destroy a nation of law by ignoring the law with impunity. It is time to come down on this lawless administration and restore the Constitution.

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  7. johngalt says: 7

    @Skookum:

    Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989

    After researching that particular law, and all of the subsequent amends to it and other action in regards to it, the Act seems to be of little value, and offer little protection to whistleblowers. My guess is that nothing will come of this case, in opposition to the government itself, and that the employee will be left out in the cold, without any recourse available. It will be a stark admonition, by the government, and Obama’s WH, that federal employees who criticize the government, and the executive branch in particular, do so at their own peril(risk of job).

    It would be interesting to see exactly what the conservative candidates, like Bachmann or Cain, think of this specific issue.

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  8. Skookum says: 8

    JG, you may be right about the outcome, but we are talking about the murder of a federal agent with one of these weapons. If the right Conservative is elected, Holder may wish he was impeached rather than facing criminal charges, like he is still trying to prosecute the waterboard guys from the CIA.

    Do we have wimps who cower in front of Obama or do we have men who will stand up to the Marxists; that is the question.

    Issa is leading this quest on his own. Without him, there would be no accounting for the Obamanation. I think we should give him support and confidence.

    Obama is assuming he is bullet proof and that he already has the power of a Marxist ruler. If we don’t stand up, he will have that power.

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  9. johngalt says: 9

    @Skookum:

    Yes, the murder of one of our own agents by those weapons is the most important aspect of this whole issue, much more so than the welfare of one or more agents’ careers. I do not dispute that at all. My only point, in posting what I did, was to state that the law you mentioned will, more than likely, result in nothing being done.

    None of the RINO’s in the GOP leadership will attack this issue like it needs to be done. If this doesn’t constitute “high crimes and Misdemeanors”, as mentioned in the Impeachment clause, then I don’t know what does. Holder, and by extension, this WH, has shown a propensity to thumb his nose at the laws and the Constitution itself. I’d go so far as to say that nominating Holder for AG has been Obama’s biggest error thus far, and that the Senate confirming him has been the biggest blight on that house in Congress in quite awhile. The man belongs in prison, making big rocks into little ones.

    Do we have wimps who cower in front of Obama or do we have men who will stand up to the Marxists; that is the question.

    I’d say that the GOP leadership is full of wimps. There are only a sparse few Republicans who are truly conservative, and understand the reverence the Constitution deserves. Unfortunately, it seems that enough Republican voters do not understand that, and are giving the wimps, like Romney, too much credence thus far.

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  10. retire05 says: 10

    Skookum, Gunwalker will go nowhere, and the whistle blowers will lose their jobs. But at that point, they should sue for wrongful dismissal, which is civil, not federal, I believe. And in a civil suit, the rules of disclosure are totally different and would favor the whistleblower.

    Of course, the MFM is giving little play to this story. Hell, Fox has barely covered it. And yes, it is worse than Watergate or Iran/Contra because there is a dead Border Patrol agent.

    Now, you have to wonder what genius dreamed up Gunwalker. Did they really think with the massive corruption in Mexico, among the army/police, that they would be able to track those weapons?

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  11. anticsrocks says: 11

    Sadly, I think this will be swept under the rug. Chicago thug tactics seem to rule the day…for now.

    2012 cannot get here quick enough!

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  12. Ditto says: 12

    I think it’s letter writing time. Petitions are useless. Phone calls work to a lesser degree. Flooding Republican and Democrat congress critter’s mailboxes is one thing that makes them take notice (especially if they are hand written letters) because they take into effect the extra effort. Don’t forget to also send letters to various news agencies.

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  13. Smorgasbord says: 13

    What is the web sight to buy the rifle pictured? If they sold them to crooks, I should be able to buy one. How much are they?

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  14. Ditto says: 14

    @Sorgasboard

    That is the Barrett M107 .50 Caliber Long Range Sniper Rifle The difference between the M107 and M82A1 is that the M107 has a longer rail to put more accessories on it, better muzzle recoil and some internal improvements.

    M107 Cost $9,244.99

    M107 Cost $8,761.00

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  15. Smorgasbord says: 15

    @Ditto: #14

    You forgot to include the ATF web page where I can order it.

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  16. Ditto says: 16

    @Smorgasboard

    Couldn’t find it. Shoot Holder an email and ask him.

    Personally, I’d rather get my hands on a Colt M1911A1.

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  17. Mune Shadowe says: 17

    Personally Ditto I’d rather “Reach out and touch someone”.
    Why do we have an agency that is no where to be found in the Constitution in existence still?
    P.S. Are those suggested retail prices?

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  18. johngalt says: 18

    @Ditto:

    Personally, I’d rather get my hands on a Colt M1911A1.

    Speaking of which, I wonder if my dad still has his. I’ll have to remember to ask him next time I talk to him. I still remember, as a young teenager, taking it out when he wasn’t home and shooting it. Afterwards, I cleaned it as best I could and replaced it, but he knew I’d taken it shooting anyway. He surprised me by asking how well it handled, and how accurate it was, right before he admonished me for shooting it without asking and handed down my punishment. This was before I really knew anything about ‘collector’s items’, and believed it just another firearm that my dad owned. I had, after all, continuing permission to take out shotguns into the field and shoot them when I wished to.

    As for that gun pictured, I’d love to shoot one sometime, but I don’t think I would ever own one.

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  19. Smorgasbord says: 19

    @Ditto: #16

    I meant it sarcasticly.

    I am guessing we will never know who came up with the idea of giving crooks guns, but I know Obama won’t let anyone prosicute them since his people got the guns. Think what the propaganda media coverage would have been if this was done under the Bush administration!

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  21. Ditto says: 20

    @Mune Shadowe

    Why do we have an agency that is no where to be found in the Constitution in existence still?

    That is a question that opens a huge can of worms. Aside from the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government, the only agency specifically called for in the constitution is the military. There is the “implied” presumption that all governments need hire certain work staffs to make it possible for them perform their duties. However there is nothing in the Constitution that directly calls for the creation of subordinate agencies. All existing agencies were created by legislation. The writing of legislation is certainly constitutional, but I don’t think it has ever been questioned to the courts if the creation of subordinate agencies is authorized. It is the creation of agencies that has enabled the federal government to reach it’s tendrils in every facet of our lives, and state governments follow this model.

    P.S. Are those suggested retail prices?

    The first one was a retail price, the other was an auction result. Prices may vary.

    @ Smorgasboard

    Knew that ;-)

    @ JohnGalt

    As for that gun pictured, I’d love to shoot one sometime, but I don’t think I would ever own one.

    I concur. If I had that kind of money to throw around, I’d look at a used tank. Much more practical around the farm or ranch.

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  23. Mune Shadowe, you said reach out and touch,
    that was funny,
    I can figure that touch to leave an imprint forever,
    bye

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