3 Jun

Veteran Status Debate

I originally wrote this for my blog, but then decided that perhaps it’s information that I can better encourage debate on here.

Yesterday, the local morning conservative talk show host brought up a question about the status of veterans. He said that words mean things and he’s right. The issue was the Stolen Valor Act (which I disagree with, believe it or not) and whether veterans that never served in Vietnam, but served in the military during the Vietnam War, can be called “Vietnam Veterans.”

The host was trying to make the case that if someone serves in the military during a time of war, there is nothing wrong with calling themselves a “[insert campaign/war name] Veteran.” I wholeheartedly disagree. I see his point of view, but military personnel don’t think this way.

For example, I was in the Army during Kosovo, Bosnia, Afghanistan, and Iraq, but I’m only an Iraq Veteran. I never served in those other conflicts (well, I head to Afghanistan in a few weeks) and would NEVER call myself a Kosovo Veteran or a Bosnia Veteran. I would never call myself an Afghanistan Veteran before serving there!

The next point was that many veterans are beginning to use the term “Vietnam-Era or Desert Storm-Era Veteran.” I’m confused by this. My father served in the Navy (32 years before retiring) during the Vietnam War and has NEVER called himself a Vietnam-Era Veteran. He’s a Veteran!

The status of “Veteran” is already – or should already be – an honorable title. I don’t understand why some veterans seem to want to inflate their status by saying that they served during a particular war. The way I see it is that these people aren’t satisfied with their service and are trying to puff themselves up.

For the veterans out there, this is what I’d like to know. I think it confuses civilians who have no clue about military service. They hear Vietnam Veteran or Iraq Veteran and the assumption is that this Soldier or Marine or whatever served IN combat!

The host thinks it’s okay for veterans to just call themselves veterans of a particular war just by virtue of serving during a time of conflict. Now, I can see his point. To some degree, everyone that serves in the military during wartime is to some degree helping the effort. We still have a stateside mission of training and equipping forward deployed units, but it’s a completely different job entirely. You can’t be a veteran of war when you’ve never been in potential life-threatening danger. And I think that just the act of serving in and of itself is an honorable endeavor worthy of respect from Americans whether that honorable service lasted a month or 32 years!!

Not everyone gets to serve in combat. Sometimes it’s by choice and sometimes it’s just the cards that are dealt. Just ask my wife how frustrated I’ve been that I haven’t deployed since I returned from the Iraq War in late 2003! While others have 3, 4, and 5 deployments, I’ve been resting on ONE! It drives me nuts, but I kept getting slotted in positions that weren’t deployable.

When I got home from Iraq, I was PCS’d (moved for civilians out there) to Fort Irwin to head up the Task Force IED to train deploying troops on how to recognize, identify, and react to IEDs. The position was a non-deployable position that I was in for about two years. After that, I was transferred to a unit in D.C. with a very specialized mission. I did have a chance to deploy to an interrogation billet, but that jackwagon John McCain ruined my deployment when he made changes to the definition of an “interrogator” and I was immediately considered “unqualified” despite my extensive training and experience. This, of course, was a response to the Abu Ghraib situation and qualified interrogators must have gone through the military interrogation school. I went through a defense-contracted interrogation course that basically taught the same thing, but wasn’t good enough even though I was a highly successful interrogator in Iraq, capturing 8 of the top 55 in the deck of cards! After that assignment, I was assigned as a First Sergeant at a strategic unit in Huntsville, AL – another non-deployable slot.

So, I couldn’t help it for the past six years. When it was time to move on, I ensured I would get deployed and chose a unit I knew was slated to head to Afghanistan. I want to do my part and I don’t feel comfortable personally resting on my one deployment while so many others have sacrificed so much more.

There are instances where that happens, but the jobs that I filled during the past six years were just as important. It was a vital piece of the overall mission that SOMEONE has to do and there is nothing dishonorable or wrong with that. Why would any veteran want to call themselves a Vietnam Veteran, Desert Storm Veteran, Iraq Veteran, or Afghanistan Veteran when they didn’t actually fight in those wars unless they were trying to mislead people? Why do some of our veterans feel the need to identify themselves as an “era” veteran? Have we really diminished the service of our great Americans that much that the mere act of serving and being a “Veteran” is no longer enough?

I don’t think so.

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55 Responses to Veteran Status Debate

  1. Maureen Gilbert says: 51

    @Thomas Konieczko: Hi again, Thomas! Well, I decided to call the VA hospital where I go to see how I am classified. I was informed that I am officially classified as a Vietnam Era veteran. I hope I have not offended any real Vietnam veterans by linking myself to you. I am sorry…I did not know , but now that I do, I will be sure my patches and motorcycle sticker has ERA VET on it. I am still proud to have served, only now I know what my role actually was. Thank you for you kind response to my question. Maureen

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  2. Thomas Konieczko says: 52

    Maureen, if you served in Thailand you received the VSM that makes you a Vietnam Vet if the combat vets like it or not. The VA has everyone that served during the Vietnam War as Era it’s only when you go for benefits that they put you in different catogories. The VSM makes all the difference if you don’t have it your entitled to it. Welcome Home !

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  3. Maureen Gilbert says: 53

    @Thomas Konieczko: Thank you for your kind responses to me. My DD214 doesnt list VSM, only Indochina service. The lady at VA said it isn’t the same, so I guess as long as my sticker says ERA then none of these old guys will think I am trying to be glory grabbing. I am happy with my service record. (I was MI-ASA) .My discharge says Honorable. Peace! Maureen

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  4. Allen Richards says: 54

    @Maureen Gilbert: I wouldn’t worry about it. the VA does make it confusing. I too am considered a Vet of the Viet Nam Era further complicated because of a medical issue (blood clots and Phlebitis) that put an early end to my flying status. This led to a Honorable discharge under medical conditions after almost 4 years of service… So I am now listed as a disabled Vet of the Viet Nam Era… which I try to keep to myself because most civilians think that I must have seen some major s..t. Basically I was a Aircrew (HSL-37) stationed in Hawaii.. The most trouble I ever got into was in the P.I. on liberty. It is especially hard because my brother was in fact a real Viet Nam Vet (’65-67) (101st Airborne L.R.P) who earned the Silver Star. Came back with malaria, Hepatitis and died this year from complications the VA now says was the result of being sprayed with agent orange. He was one of the best.

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  5. Maureen Gilbert says: 55

    @Allen Richards: Mr. Richards, I would like to express my condolences to you for the loss of your brother. That has to be hard no matter what the reason. Knowing it was AO must just add to your grief. Thank you for your service (and your response to my post). Because my tour was probably more of a cake walk than so many American men (and women) had, I want to make sure I am not pumping up my own service record. I was 17 when I enlisted, and was a proud little soldier girl….and even now at 55 I identify strongly and fondly to the military. I know my military record pales in comparison to so many…I just want to show my pride in having been part of something. Maureen

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