2 May

Thank George Bush [Reader Post]

                                       

The tip that led to the death of Osama Bin Laden came from a Gitmo detainee:

Sunday afternoon’s raid by U.S. forces that killed Osama bin Laden was the “culmination of years of careful and highly advanced intelligence work,” senior administration officials said in a conference call, describing the genesis of an operation that sounded like it was right out of a “Mission Impossible” movie.

Some time after Sept. 11, detainees held by the U.S. told interrogators about a man believed to work as a courier for bin Laden, senior administration officials said. The man was described by detainees as a protégé of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and “one of the few Al Qaeda couriers trusted by bin laden.”

Initially, intelligence officials only had the man’s nickname, but they discovered his real name four years ago.

Two years ago, intelligence officials began to identify areas of Pakistan where the courier and his brother operated, and the great security precautions the two men took aroused U.S. suspicions.

Although it cannot be denied that this is a victory shared by Barack Obama, you’d never know anyone other than Obama gathered the intelligence or participated in the remarkable raid.

I directed Leon Pannetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority”

I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden”

I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden”

I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action and authorized an operation to get Usama bin Laden and bring him to justice”

“Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad Pakistan”

I have made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam; bin Laden was not a Muslim leader”

Had Obama been President at the time of the 9/11 attacks, the US would never have found Bin Laden. Obama gave an order that terrorist detainees be read their Miranda rights.

When 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad was captured on March 1, 2003, he was not cooperative. “I’ll talk to you guys after I get to New York and see my lawyer,” he said, according to former CIA Director George Tenet.

Of course, KSM did not get a lawyer until months later, after his interrogation was completed, and Tenet says that the information the CIA obtained from him disrupted plots and saved lives. “I believe none of these successes would have happened if we had had to treat KSM like a white-collar criminal – read him his Miranda rights and get him a lawyer who surely would have insisted that his client simply shut up,” Tenet wrote in his memoirs.

If Tenet is right, it’s a good thing KSM was captured before Barack Obama became president. For, the Obama Justice Department has quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high value detainees captured and held at U.S. detention facilities in Afghanistan, according a senior Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. “The administration has decided to change the focus to law enforcement. Here’s the problem. You have foreign fighters who are targeting US troops today – foreign fighters who go to another country to kill Americans. We capture them and they’re reading them their rights – Mirandizing these foreign fighters,” says Representative Mike Rogers, who recently met with military, intelligence and law enforcement officials on a fact-finding trip to Afghanistan.

It was in 2007 that the courier’s name was identified.

As in Gitmo. As in President George Bush. As in Enhanced Interrogation Techniques.

Current and former U.S. officials say that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden’s most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed’s successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi. Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

Barack Obama was going shut down Gitmo and afford detainees all kids of protections given to US citizens. Under Obama KSM would have been taken to New York and he would have clammed up. And we would not have learned the name of the courier. But don’t expect to hear that from Obama. I suspect that Obama is trying to paint over the facts as much as possible before the truth is sorted out. Karl Rove was on Fox News and offered Obama and Hillary much praise. George Bush congratulated Obama.

Earlier this evening, President Obama called to inform me that American forces killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al Qaeda network that attacked America on September 11, 2001. I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude. This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001. The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.

Obama couldn’t even tip his hat to Bush for creating the tools Obama used to get Bin Laden. Not even a cup of coffee.

And it has to be said again- the US military is nothing less than fantastic.

God bless America.

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DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education. DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed. Except for liberals being foolish.
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174 Responses to Thank George Bush [Reader Post]

  1. MISSY, what a nice way to remember by bringing it to FA,
    we missed your being around and give us your always repercuting comment that is the true fact,
    all the time, which I bring in some bits in my own comments, quite a few times as they come in my mind to enforce my point across on many subjects I decide to take my chance on responding.
    don’t stay away too long from FA, because your other work can wait, not us, bye

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  2. Missy says: 152

    @ilovebeeswarzone:

    We’ve been painting our house, my son is here helping and he brought his big yellow lab, of course. Lots of cooking to do, the lab decided he would rather eat the food I have to cook for our dog, hard to keep up with both of them.

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  3. Randy says: 153

    @Missy: @Missy: What no one on the left has understood on the “mission Accomplished” stuff with President Bush is that Bush didn’t do it. All of the things that Bush was accused of doing was done by the military to show their appreciation for a Commander in Chief that they appreciate because he treated them like real people! Something similar happened at every place President Bush visited. Larry gets bent out of shape because he can never see the appreciation we in the military felt toward President Bush. He was a real leader during a very difficult time.

    You all remember Senator Kerry eating alone in the Embassy dining facility in the green zone? None of us would be caught dead eating with him. When he visited Camp Liberty, there was a FRAGO issued that required soldiers from Kerry’s state to meet with him! Many changed residency that day!

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  4. Randy, that is a good one for The PRESIDENT BUSH, WE need to know more of it, to counter balance the propagande put massivly bashing THE PRESIDENT BUSH, SINCE HE BECAME A PRESIDENT,
    THEY HAVE DONE THE PROPAGANDE SO WELL THAT WE CAN STILL HEAR THE BASHING AT THIS TIME, and they convinced many people to hate him enough to try to rampage into the WHITE HOUSE WHEN HE WAS STILL INSIDE WITH HIS FAMILY, we saw it on FOX NEWS. that ‘s how good they where to promote HATE AND DIVISION, among AMERICANS, and still are to this day, targetting
    other groups now also.

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  5. Steve Parker says: 155

    Let’s be honest. If George W. Bush were still President, the focus would not have been on capturing/killing Osama Bin Laden and he (OBL) would still be alive. It’s good that we put the focus BACK on getting Bin Laden and it’s a great day for ALL Americans.

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  6. Steve,

    Are you kidding me? If President Bush had the shot he would have taken it as well.

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  7. Steve Parker, yes, THE PRESIDENT BUSH, realy cared for the troops, He probably was waiting
    for a safe way for the troops to get BIN without putting his troops in harmway,
    and the INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, WHERE CHECKING IT UP,
    don’t think that he had given up on capturing BIN, BUT NOT , NO MATTER WHAT OR AT ANY PRICE FOR THE LOST OF LIFE FROM HIS TROOPS,
    THEIRE LIFE WHERE MORE VALUABLE THAN BINLADEN

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  8. Wordsmith says: 158

    @Steve Parker: Bush never lost focus on going after bin Laden. True, he did play down the hunt. But that’s because the war was always bigger than simply going after one…two…nineteen or a 100 terrorists. It’s a whole network and movement. And as we know now, the end of bin Laden is not the end of al Qaeda and the jihad movement. bin Laden’s significance is in large part symbolically important. Operationally, I don’t think he’s been all that effective for the last 9 yrs of his life.

    Missy, you’re like family here. It is always a welcome sight to see you post comments.

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  9. Missy says: 159

    @Randy:

    I also remember that story about the troops that had to dine with Hillary and some kind of secret hand signal. Here is another nice article about President Bush bicycling in the desert with our wounded veterans a couple of weeks ago. This paragraph tells it all the way I believe most of our troops feel about him as their CIC:

    “I feel his compassion,” the retired parachute infantry squad leader said Wednesday, with a note of melancholy. “It feels like he really cares about us.”

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/apr/27/bush-armstrong-join-wounded-vets-for-tx-bike-ride/

    @Wordsmith:

    Thank you so much Word, feel the same about you! Been working hard, got a sun burn and 16 more yards of mulch to shovel but, I can still do it.

    There has been so much said, Bush didn’t care, Bush disbanded the OBL unit, yada, yada. The unit was disbanded by the CIA, they did not stop hunting bin Laden, they revised their strategy. They basically lost control of the OBL unit, so they moved the agents into different areas. And, judging from one of his last interviews in January of 08 that I read, he said they were still on the hunt and hoped they would find him before he left office.

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  10. Steve Parker says: 160

    Let’s look at facts.
    Bush had 8 years to capture/kill Bin Laden. He didn’t do it.
    Bush could have had Bin Laden in Tora Bora, but failed because he was afraid to commit troops, bombing instead.
    Bush focused on Iraq when, if he wanted Bin Laden, he should have been focusing on Afghanistan.
    Bush was briefed in the FIRST WEEK in office “Bin Laden Determined to Attack inside the United States.”
    “I don’t spend that much time worrying about him [Osama Bin Laden].” – George W. Bush
    “Catching Osama Bin Laden is not a top priority use of American resources.” I guess Iraq must have been. No Bin Laden there.

    If George W. Bush were still President, Osama Bin Laden would still be alive. It’s really just that simple.

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  11. Missy says: 161

    @Steve Parker:

    Let’s look at facts.

    I realize you are a newbie here but, we do have archives that have debunked your talking points many times.

    Bush had 8 years to capture/kill Bin Laden. He didn’t do it.

    Actually, we have had since 1993 to capture/kill OBL, in all those years WE didn’t get him. Had Obama not had the tools that were left to him, WE still would not have him. WE are all thankful to everyone, past and present that contributed to taking this evil man out.

    http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/obl-mission-agreed-in-secret-10-years-ago-by-us-pakistan/

    Bush could have had Bin Laden in Tora Bora, but failed because he was afraid to commit troops, bombing instead.

    http://floppingaces.net/2009/11/29/we-our-political-opponents-dropped-the-ball-on-tora-bora/#comment-257036

    Bush focused on Iraq when, if he wanted Bin Laden, he should have been focusing on Afghanistan.

    And, just where was it that they found OBL?

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  12. DrJohn says: 162

    @Steve Parker:

    Bush was briefed in the FIRST WEEK in office “Bin Laden Determined to Attack inside the United States.”

    Steve, I am going to call you on this first. I know this subject pretty darned well and I assert that you cannot prove this is a fact.

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  13. Randy says: 163

    @Steve Parker: Steve, you need to know more than what you get from the lefty news channels and read in the lefty news papers. If you collect all of the news sources from the time of Tora Bora, you will find there was a terrorist attack in India that caused the Indian Army to accuse Pakistan and move to the Pakistan border with India. The Tora Bora campaign was a hammer and anvil operation with the US and Afghanistan allies the hammer and the Pakistan Army on the Afghanistan-Pakistan Border to prevent the escape of the terrorists to include OBL. When the terrorist attacked convienently happened in India as this critical operation was developing, Pakistan withdrew the troops from the Afghanistan border and moved them to the Indian border. That allowed the terrorists to escape in to Pakistan.

    Was President Bush responsible for the terrorist attack in India that allowed OBL to escape? Hardly! I expect that OBL and some Pakistan help did that. (India had intel linking the attack to Pakistan government officials.) Maybe the same people who have been harboring OBL over the years planned and carried out the attack in India. When you make unsubstanciated statements here, you really need to think them our and not repeat all the garbage you hear in the MSM. You can check these facts. I had this through secure channels that likely is on Wikileaks now!

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  14. Old Trooper 2 says: 164

    (India had intel linking the attack to Pakistan government officials)
    The Pak ISI in particular to be honest.

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  15. Old Trooper 2,
    that is good to know, that India mingle with our secret MISSION,
    they could have get the SEALS ambushed and killed in there,
    bye nice of you to come ,we have missed you,

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  16. Old Trooper 2 says: 166

    @Steve Parker: Steve, your assumptions are foolish. You need to vet the sources of the info that you use to base them on. A few of Us know better. The Lefties would have screamed bloody murder if a few Op Plans to snuff OBL were carried out during the Bush Admin.

    The Current Obama Regime used an old JSOC Op Plan that was modified and updated. Look at how many times the Libs attempted to cut funding for AFPAK and Iraq before you get carried away here. Your Dog just ain’t gonna hunt.

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  17. Old Trooper 2 says: 167

    @llovebeeswarzone ilovebeeswarzone: Hey…Thats why We didn’t tell Em before the Raid.

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  18. drjohn says: 169

    @Steve Parker: Steve
    You realize that you’re providing a response to something other than to your initial assertion, right?

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  19. Wordsmith says: 170

    @Steve Parker:

    http://youtu.be/DIpEwGmSsmM

    You do realize the August 6, 2001 PDB in question was released by the White House in April of 2004, right? Have you bothered to read it? Any actionable intelligence there, buddy? Nothing in it even remotely suggests an imminent attack. Just background fodder: bin Laden has designs to attack the U.S. Well, duh!

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  20. drjohn says: 171

    @Wordsmith: Hey Word, did you know that August was Bush’s first week in office?

    Bush was briefed in the FIRST WEEK in office “Bin Laden Determined to Attack inside the United States.”

    And the PDB says the more sensational claims could NOT be corroborated.

    Steve ought to review the 4 Dec 1998 PDB. There’s loads of better material there. All of which makes one wonder why Clinton didn’t have OBL done away with at least once in the 8-10 opportunities Clinton had to get him. The Sudan wanted to hand over OBL to Clinton in 1995 and Clinton said no. He could have buried him at sea right then and there.

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  21. Steve Parker says: 172

    Just say “Thank you President Obama” and move on.

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  22. Old Trooper 2, you are still not telling us.
    but this is lasting too long ,
    you must come back to FA, SOON
    PLEASE TAKE CARE

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