The words uttered by Democrats over the last few weeks are nothing short of mind boggling in their flaming hypocrisy and the more they speak the worse it gets. Some are on the edge of comical, but many are worth revisiting.
Let’s start with Howard Dean:
I do not believe the President should have been given a green light to drive our nation into conflict without the case having first been made to Congress and the American people for why this war is necessary, and without a requirement that we at least try first to work through the United Nations…
“If the administration believes that any, any use of force against Iran is necessary, the president must come to Congress to seek that authority,”
“It would be a mistake of historical proportion if the administration thought that the 2002 resolution authorizing force against Iraq was a blank check for the use of force against Iran without further congressional authorization”
“We continue to experience the consequences of unchecked presidential action,” she said, later adding: “This president was allowed for too long to commit blunder after blunder under cover of darkness provided by an allied Republican Congress”
“I want to make it clear. And I made it clear to the President that if he takes this nation to war with Iran without Congressional approval. I will make it my business to impeach him. That’s a fact. That is a fact.”
Can any of you Obama supporters tell us why this a particularly stupid statement by the long time member of the Senate Judiciary?
“Bush needs approval to invade Iran.”
Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.
The president led us into the Iraq war on the basis of unproven assertions without evidence; he embraced a radical doctrine of pre-emptive war unprecedented in our history; and he failed to build a true international coalition.
(We’ll visit that again)
On his MSNBC show this evening, Cenk Uygur suggested that opposition to President Obama’s Libya policy is “unpatriotic.” For good measure, Dem congressman Gary Ackerman stated that opposing the president is “cheering for the wrong team.”
Nancy Pelosi: Dissent is patriotic.
“This is different,” Boxer said Wednesday. Today, “you’re facing a dictator who vowed” widespread slaughter in his own country, she said, adding that Obama “did the right thing.”
Note: Saddam killed a estimated one million Iraqis
And the Hypocrite-in-Chief
Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power…. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.
But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors…and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.
The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.
No system of government can or should be imposed by one nation by any other.
The good news for Democrats is that they’re not alone.
Obama is committed to partnering with other countries rather than going it alone as did his predecessor George W. Bush, which both broadens and complicates the decision-making process.
Fact: Bush Had 2 Times More Coalition Partners in Iraq Than Obama Has in Libya
But Al-Reutzeera finally did define the Obama doctrine;
Stung by accusations that it has sent mixed messages on Middle East events, the White House has said it is putting together a new, overarching strategy that will set out basic principles of U.S. policy toward the region.
In other words, the Obama Doctrine can be described this way:
Ready, Fire, Aim.
If hypocrisy was a crime we’d be bombing Reuters, the White House and the DNC headquarters instead of Libya.
Wow, Ivan… you’ve added mind reading to your reading between the lines skills??
Word to the wise… keep the neon hand/tarot card sign out of your window, and keep your day job as a whiny old man.
MataHarley says: 90
You could use a little bit of my hate, Mata. The problem is that people like you, instead of being pissed off at our Republican House membmers, go around all day screaming,”Democrat bad, Republican Good.” For the love of God, give it up.
I notice that you never get up set and each and every betrayl. Notice how the Republicans talk a good game about “Cutting spending” and “reigning in government”, then when they get in power they expand government!!!! Nope, Mata’s alright with that. Oh sure, she feigns “outrage!” yet always comes home to papa on election day.
The last act of the desparate mind is the personal insult, Mata. You just played your last card and it’s a duce.
I repeat, Ivan… you’ve added omnipotent mind reading now to your reading between the lines supposed skills? Damn… you can’t even read plain English. I challenge you to find one “Republican Good” post or comment I’ve done. That I remind you, after you whine about debt by only looking back to the turn of the century, is not “Republican Good”…. it is a reality check for a dunce. That we are where we are not because of the last ten years, but because of the implementation of entitlement programs and attitudes, starting in 1935. Evidently, slides right over your only brain cell.
Talk about last acts of desperation. You are a pathetic soul. BTW… what one delivers to me, I return in kind… or with greater force. So if you don’t like the personal insults, I would suggest you discontinue misstating what I believe, and who I am. Otherwise, live with it, loser.
@MataHarley:
Mata
Ivan’s got to be a farmer. I’ve never seen so many straw men.
@MataHarley:
Hmmm, wonder what two folks gave you the thumbs down? Darryl and his other brother Darryl?
LOL!
All Right Dr. John… Do NOT INSULT the Hard working farmers of America, or we’ll have an Issue!! LOL!
(was a good pun tho!)
Dems try to position themselves to win in a government shutdown.
Democrats are working on a plan that would allow them to say they tried to meet Republicans halfway on spending cuts. This is similar to the earlier effort in which Democrats said they were meeting Republicans halfway because they were abandoning $47 billion in spending requests sought by President Obama.
The new effort on the Democratic side involves taking cuts already made and adjustments in other expenditures outside the realm of Republican cuts – annualized changes in farm subsidy rates, for example – to claim that they are proposing half of the $61 billion in total reductions sought by the GOP.
It looks like a mess, but the goal isn’t good bookkeeping. The goal is to position themselves to profit politically.
While this narrative is very attractive to reporters, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it will work in the long run.
For the Reid plan to work, Senate Democrats actually have to cough up a plan.
It doesn’t have to succeed, but it has to get past the Senate, or at least have the unified support of the body’s 53 Democratic members. The Democratic caucus in the Senate smacked down Reid’s last gambit — $6.5 billion in cuts for the rest of the year.
But success will depend on whether the cuts are real and if moderate Senate Democrats will go along. Democrats failed on both counts last time
The administration and Reid may find a limited dem audience for a plan that looks like a political stunt designed to force a government shutdown and place the blame on Republicans.
Unless President Obama and Reid are willing to expand the playing field on fiscal issues, it seems unlikely that they can avoid a government shutdown or be seen as credible on the deficit.
The Democrats who have argued that a shutdown would be a political opportunity may have led their party into this war of words without an exit strategy.
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MataHarley,
Just look back at the story about the so called “Fukushima 50″… when I called that propaganda, you went ballistic. It IS propaganda and you bought it hook line and sinker and spread it on this site.
@Hardly Right
I knew you had no proof. That is how you work. Half cocked.
you made a claim, back it up… or I guess the shoe fits. Liar!
Oh fer heavens sake, blast. Disagreeing with you, and pointing out you’re a hystercal chicken little is not “SHOUTING YOU DOWN”. Hypersensitive much?
@ MAta
LOL, you are being ridiculous Mata, you and your dishonest claims about bunkers and Geiger counters all to muddy that post. And then you got all high and mighty
you were being hyperbolic by repeating the propaganda of the Fukushima 50
You posted propaganda… there is no Fukushima 50, I pointed that out and you went nuts. Called me names, made shit up. The onus is on you mata.
Mata:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/03/21/japan.military.evacuation/
Care to retract some of your previous “it’s going to be ‘okay’” comments?
I’m a little busy to be catering to chicken littles at the moment, Ivan. But perhaps you will provide links to where I have ever said “it’s going to be ‘okay’” for me. What I have continually said is that you, blast and occasionally Nan G get ahead of the news and pronounce doom and gloom when there’s a different measurement, a new pool of water discovered. You’ve even gone so far as to insist you *know* the container status when even those on the site haven’t ascertained that.
Now your inept reading may take a “whoa, hold your horses about panicking”, and translate as “it’s going to be okay”. But I have no need to apologize for your “between the lines” reading disabilities. Therefore, no retraction is necessary.
Nor does your link say anything of note that’s newsworthy. They’ve been considering evacuating military families from the base for over a week that I know of. Nor does it say it’s going to happen, or mandatory. Just that they are “thinking about it”. Personally, if I were based there as a naval wife, I’d want to come home to the states. Why not?
But thanks for the latest chicken little update that the military is “thinking about” evacuating the families….. Wow. Breaking news of major import.
Would you like to see catastrophe and what Armaggedon looks like? ABC has put together before/after photos that you drag across to see the results pre and post earthquake/tsunami. So much loss of life. So much devastation. Strikes me as both you and the media tend to focus only on the nuke plant, and care little about the clean up and recovery efforts of the large scale damage *not* done by the power plant. Get some perspective, would ya?
@blast:
Hey blasted, let’s make a little bet. If I provide proof that Ivan is a pat buchannan fanboy, you’ll leave the site and troll elsewhere. How about it?
There is “no Fukushima Fifty”? LOL Tell that to Bloomberg’s Investment Watch Blog,…. or perhaps to the Yahoo news group, the Telegraph, Zero Hedge, or the Japan Times editorial that cites them as genuine heroes for Japanese youths to look up to.
They were originally called such since there were about 50 there in the first days. Of course, their ranks have swollen since then. Please tell me you’re not so dumb as to say there is no “Fukushima Fifty” because there’s more than 50 there now?
And you’re still an ass on this issue.
@Hard Right… oh! oh! (wildly waves hand to be called on…) Pick me! Pick me! I know the answer!!!
:0)
@MAta,
LOL… you are such a stooge for the nuclear industry. When I made my comment was in reply to your sensational posting about the FF… where by then the notion of the “Fukushima Fifty” was debunked already (but you kept repeating it). Oh, and that post was about the inaccuracies of the sensational media. I was saying you were no better. And yes, you are no better.
@Hardly Right -
Well, seeing as you gave me permission to call you a liar for not substantiating your comment, I will just stick to that. Your a liar.
@MataHarley:
You’re scaring the fish away Mata!
I’m betting he won’t be taking the bet. Too bad the “new” blast didn’t last long before he went back to being a moonbat called blasted.
EDIT: Blasted beat me to the post button. I knew you wouldn’t have the balls to take the bet. Little FYI for you blasted, absence of proof isn’t proof of absence.
@Mata,
Honestly mata, you just want to shout down anyone that challenges your little domain. You ALWAYS go for the the insults and name calling.
In all sincerity I once though you were a decent person… so you can see I do mistakes.
@blast:
Could you possibly be more of a lying, projecting, hypocrite?
Apparently the blow fish doesn’t recognize an angler when he sees one, HR. Can’t even figure out his comment to me using that statements, save to prove it went right over his head. Or perhaps, more appropriately, in one ear – unobstructed thru the cranium – and out the other end. LOL
Hardly Right
LOL. that is a hoot. No one could dethrone you from being the biggest liar. You even wanted to be called a liar.
yep, the shoe fits.
This discussion is very unproductive. I am done with you, for now. I can’t wait what other excuses you have for comment. Since you have no substance at all.
@blast:
Hey, didn’t I just read someone saying there was no Fukushima 50?
Onus back to you, blast.
@DrJohn: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/31/japans-nuclear-rescuers-inevitable-die-weeks/ Here is the Fox news report from one of the relatives.
Dum did de dum…… um hm….
@ DrJohn,
The Fukushima Fifty, there dozens of reports that contradict that story. Basically there are hundreds of people going in an out of the facility, rotating to minimize exposure and not must leave when they meet the the maximum levels of exposure. They have also evacuated the sight on numerous occasions. This is no Casey Jones operation with them holding on the breaks before disaster strikes.
@Randy:
That was a really sad story.
Add to it:
I just heard on the radio that over 1000 bodies (from the original earthquake/tsunami) are unrecoverable because the radiation is so high where they are.
I hope they get this nuclear plant entombed soon so they can get on with cleaning up the spreading mess.
Honestly didn’t matter if you directed it at the Easter Bunny, this is a social public forum thread. He’s as much inclined as any other user here to expose when someone else is incorrect, such as yourself over the Fukushima matter, in a public setting. Don’t like the fact about that, then too bad.
@blast: She’s on my team.
I’m sorry, blast. I didn’t realize that clicking on hot links was beyond your capabilities. Had you possessed that superior skill, you’d learn that they were called the Fukushima Fifty because, when this all started breaking loose, there were only about 50 manning the site. You’re one anal puppy, aren’t you?
@MataHarley:
He’s just trying to avoid having to admit he was wrong. Watching him dig a deeper hole for himself has been amusing.
Too bad he didn’t take me up on the bet. It would have been fun to drop that bomb on him and then see his excuse for welching.
MataHarley , I prefer not to spread propaganda. As of the time of your post on the subject it was common knowledge that there was no Fukushima Fifty (and I said so at the time to you, which precipitated a great back and forth on that thread). And the number at this point is not my only point of contention… keep in mind once a worker reaches the 250 millisieverts legal limit they are required to leave the sight. I could see if they were working beyond these limits, but as of now only accidental exposures have been over the limits (like the guys that walked into the radioactive water). Plus they have evacuated the facility when it became dangerous etc. All sounds sensible to me…
Edit: Your propaganda on this was way back on March 17th, so even hindsight can help you Mata.
Still suffering from that anal disease I see, blast. At the time of my writing, they were STILL, and to this day, STILL referring to the Fukushima workers on the frontline as the Fukushima Fifty. Has nothing to do with Casey Jones. As I’ve said before, on the subject of Japan, you are, and consistently remain, an ass.
About that “point of contention”, blast. My post was to pay tribute to those on the frontlines of Fukushima… something you minimalized, and have over and over, by noting they evacuate the facility when it becomes dangerous.
You seem to miss your own point INRE the dangers they face… as you call “accidental exposure”. But of course they would rotate the workers.. the Fukushima Fifty as they were still calling them then and now, regardless of the numbers… under controlled and predictable conditions.
Their danger and bravery is there is little about that situation that is controlled and predictable, and they live with “accidental exposure” every moment of the day.
Therefore your minimalization was as offensive then as it is today.
@Mata:
Oh, you paid tribute by spreading misinformation about what was happening? It is ironic that you say it was to praise them, and the second part of your post was ripping the media for hype and misinformation… Can you spell hypocrisy?
I said that on March 17th when you made the post. You can get all tied up in your underwear on that “minimization” if you like, the facts speak for themselves.
blast, I was not spreading “misinformation”. Rather, after a week of “radioactive clouds headed to the US” crap and panicked Americans (like you), I balanced reality. Thus the media hype in the story.
You, on the other hand, characterized the dangers of the Fukushima Fifty as “propanganda”. Of everyone in the world, most affected by the daily haps at the plant, it is these people. You are, and remain, an ass.
50, 100 who CARES??? Point is there are some heroic guys there! The “Tuskeegee Airmen” for an example….. no one beefs over the fact we don’t ENUMERATE the exact number.. the “name” covers the WHOLE GROUP!
Mata, should I call Guiness in yet?? I think you could jerk this guys chain into a WORLD RECORD long thread with EASE!!! LOL!!
Mata said…. “Still suffering from that anal disease I see, blast. ”
Um, was BLAST the guy they were talking about in this video??? LOL!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzyDkrNLpv0&feature=related
Sorry, couldn’t resist!
Mata
I see, you get to “balance” realty by lying about it??? Try again with that balancing stuff mata!
haha… you are a real piece of work mata! I feel another round of your conflation and straw man arguments coming on. You have posted lies about this and want to wrap yourself in the heroism of the plant workers. Get the facts straight and maybe you can.
more from the thread:
More:
There are more instances where I point out the discrepancy between the FF and reality, and also acknowledge the workers there. Unlike you, I believe if there are 200, or 900 people involved… “minimizing” would be only to count them as 50.
Like I said, blasted has reverted to leftist troll mode.
Let me up the ante blasted. If I post the link where Ivan reveals he’s a puke cannon fan boy, you’ll leave the site permanently.
If I FAIL to do so, I’ll leave the site permanently. How about it ya little bitch? Are you the gutless coward I suspect you to be?
Thanks for proving you are still the ass about the Fukushima Fifty by your reprint of your own words, blast. Saves me the trouble.
Yo… ass hat. Like I said, if you had actually clicked on the links or bothered to learn how the reference to the workers at the plant… ALL of them… as the Fukushima Fifty happened, we wouldn’t have to listen to your demented backtracking endeavors. It’s not a number. It’s a reference to those, in their entirety.
Or are you so danged dumb as to assume only “50″ of any of the workers are allowed to be considered as sympathetic at any given time? duh….
Don’t answer that… I think we already have a handle on your conceptual intelligence levels by now.
Black’n'Tan, my friend. Black’n'Tan. Gotta water down that Guiness with some Harp.
Well, You KNOW I meant the book of.. but.. I think i like YOUR idea BETTER!! LOL!
Seriously HR,
If the moderators of this site believe calling me a little bitch and gutless coward are appropriate, I will open up more language that I have in my heart toward you… let me know moderators.
And the HITS just keep on coming….
@Mata,
Talk about moving the goal posts Mata, you pervade wrong information and when called on it, you don’t correct the record you then attack those who pointed it out. That is dumb Mata. And I am done reiterating that it was the STORY I did not believe and I was correct. You were wrong then and wrong now. Get your facts straight and stop using the sympathy about the workers as some sort of shield.
another snip from the original thread
You just can’t take the facts, you just want to still spread false information.
yep, in your own mind mata, in your own mind.
What record would that be, blast? That there weren’t exactly “50″? Well, who knew you could count that high, let along knew it had nothing to do with the handle given to the Fukushima workers?
You’d better start providing links to back up your dementia, blast. You be losing ground fast. Take a few more meds, eh?
Mata, your cute remarks only reinforce that your “balanced reality” is unbalanced. I am tired rehashing this tread over and over. You were wrong on March 17, and you are wrong now. You even have admitted there are more than 50, my case and point. And you have not challenged one fact that I have placed there then or now… instead you falsely accuse me of diminishing the efforts of the workers. Never mind I have said they are working under very difficult conditions and taking many risks.
*****There is “no 50″… but hundreds, possibly a thousand or more people being cycled in and out for their safety.
*****The maximum allowable exposure is 250 millisieverts, even your post had that!
*****They have evacuated when the radiation levels have been excessive.
*****TEPCO has a long history of falsifying information.
I have not minimized the risk, but have stated the facts. Now put up or shut up.
Mata, Blast: you’re beating a dead horse.
Did someone say my name?
Yes, my greatest influnces, politically, have been Ronald Reagan and Patrick J. Buchanan.
Hard Right, if you don’t like Pat, it’s because you’re not really “right”.
@ Ivan ———–they like you even less than me… well maybe, when I said you were a breath of fresh air and…
“Add Ivan as a contributor! Enough with the shilling for the big spending, covering for malfeasance corporations (especially TEPCO in recent threads). ”
This was Hardly Rights response…
So question to you Ivan – are you a anti Semite? Do you believe Buchanan is a anti Semite?
Are you a nazi sympathizer? Do you think Buchanan is a nazi sympathizer?
Do you want to keep women barefoot and pregnant?
Do you pretend not to support dems just so you can bash GOP?
I know I should consider the source (HR) but Hardly Right :has proof of all of this” in previous threads so be truthful!