So the run up for 2012 is fast approaching and I’ve been contemplating, who could beat Barack Obama? Right now, I’m not seeing anyone beating him. While I see many good candidates on the Republican side I just can’t see any being able to seriously beat Obama. Huckabee put it well on GMA, you cannot underestimate the incumbency: (1 minute mark)
“I think he is going to be tough to beat,” Huckabee said.
“This race is going to be like climbing a ladder pointing toward you because Barack Obama is going to start this race with a billion dollars. He’s going to have no primary opponent,” he said. “The Republicans are going to have a crowded field all elbowing their way under the basket for the layup. And it’s not going to be a layup. It’s going to be a tough shot.”
“I consider him a favorite, albeit a slight favorite,” said former George W. Bush adviser Karl Rove. “Republicans underestimate President Obama at their own peril.”
The economy sucks, unemployment is sky high, and he is still polling in the upper 40%…and this is without any campaigning. So it’s going to be tough, and right now, at this very moment, I’m not seeing anyone who can beat him but two years is a long time away and much can happen.
A CNN poll released this week asked Americans whether they plan to vote for or against President Obama in 2012. The options were “probably vote for,” “probably not vote for,” “definitely vote for,” and “definitely not vote for.” The most popular answer was “definitely not vote for” – chosen by 35 percent of respondents. Only 25 percent say they’ll “definitely vote for” the president. 51 percent predict he will lose.
A Gallup poll also released this week might help explain why. Gallup asked respondents whether they approve or disapprove of President Obama’s performance in eight areas: health care, the economy, foreign affairs, dealing with Afghanistan, dealing with Egypt, taxes, energy policy, and the federal budget deficit. Of all of these areas, more than half of all Americans approve of President Obama’s performance on … none of them. In all eight areas, fewer than 50 percent approve of his performance.
The big undertaking will be that the Republican candidate will have to unite the establishment AND the Tea Party. That will get them the nomination.
Palin has been run through the ringer by the MSM and her negative name recognition is too high. While I would love to see her as President, and would vote for her, I think she can do much more behind the scenes than anyone else can. Christie says he isn’t running, Herman Cain…while an outstanding man has no name recognition. Same with Allen West, plus West needs more time to get his political chops.
So how about Huckabee? Mitch Daniels?
Romney? Maybe. Obama has gone out of his way to point out the major failing of Mitt Romney, his support of Socialized medicine:
In a moment that Mitt Romney’s future GOP opponents couldn’t have scripted better themselves, President Obama Monday issued a full-throated embrace of the former Massachusetts governor’s stance on health care.
“I know that many of you have asked for flexibility for your states under this law,” Obama said during a speech to a governors meeting at the White House. “In fact, I agree with Mitt Romney, who recently said he’s proud of what he accomplished on health care by giving states the power to determine their own health care solutions. He’s right.”
…In addition to Obama’s comments Monday, current Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a longtime Obama supporter, told ABC Sunday that “One of the best things [Romney] did was to be the coauthor of our health care reform, which has been a model for national health care reform.”
And earlier this month former top Obama advisor David Axelrod said of Romney, “We got some good ideas from him.”
These kinds of comments make me think they are a bit worried about him. But let’s say he does have a chance to beat Obama….do we, as Republicans, want him as our candidate?
He’s defended RomneyCare which is pretty much the same as ObamaCare. The base will not back that and if he flip-flops on RomneyCare then the same arguments against him in 2008 will resurface. He has a chance to beat Obama but I’m unsure if he can even get the nomination.
I’m partial to Paul Ryan at the moment. He is popular with voters and other members of Congress. Can they argue about his experience? Hmmm, chairman of the House Budget Committee PLUS he actually shows up to perform his duties. I think that would rank just fine against Obama’s complete lack of experience when he ran. But will he run?
Plenty of time left to shake things out but it’s going to be a difficult race….don’t kid yourself if you think this will be a cakewalk.
Who do you see beating Obama? Not who do you WANT to beat him, but who do you think actually can?
Who Can Beat Obama In 2012? http://bit.ly/fcUBhH #tcot #teaparty #rightnetwork
Only one Republican can beat Obama, and he’s made it clear he’s not going to run – Chris Christie.
I’ve been sayin’ for about a year and a half Paul Ryan and Ken Cuccinelli.Then they can appoint Palin as Secretary of the Interior or Secretary of Energy.That should make some lib heads explode.
A solid conservative majority in both Congressional chambers. He can’t accomplish more damage if it isn’t dropped on his desk by Pelosi and Reid.
He vetoes passed bills or defunding bills affecting O’healthcare, however, at no peril. He’d be on his second term, and hasn’t a thing to lose by being an obstructionist to the bitter end.
Which, of course, means the nation is economically FUBAR’d for four more years…. unless the High Court strikes the mandate down as over reach of commerce powers.
Thanks, Curt… Blue Monday needed another blue thought… LOL
Nobody in the GOP nominee can beat Obama except Ms. Palin. I will definitely vote for her and raise money foe her candidacy.
Daniels/Christie, Daniels/West, or Daniels/Rubio would be devastating to Obama.
The VP choices I listed are all “rookies” but by the time the primaries arrive their presence, as in speeches and stump appearances will get them the name recognition they need to complete a viable ticket that would put voters at ease “in case……….”.
Their relative youth negates “The McCain Problem.”
Also, Governors make great Presidents, having to balance budgets and work with the other side of the aisle.
Coming from Indiana, Mitch Daniels can unite the Midwest and to a big extent even the south because of shared values.
Christie would get the East Coast on board or, if the need were envisioned, West or Rubio would make Florida a Red state as well as energizing The Tea Party voters.
But as of today, I think Mitch Daniels is the best choice to make a run at the Castle Walls.
Herman Cain
Who ever it is will have to be a dark horse. Paul Ryan has more saavy about the economy than Obama and his entire Chicago mafia that occupies the White House. But Ryan is, if anything, too polite. Who ever runs is going to have to call b/s during debates on Obama’s policies.
Sarah Palin would be my choice, but the MFM has done such a hachet job on her that some people believe the trash that has been put out (remember how many voted for a guy whose associations would have discounted anyone else). Huckabee has a terrible record on illegal immigration (northwest Arksansas is now Little Mexico with the signs in some of the Wal-Marts all in Spanish) although he is trying to run from that. Romney has the failed Romney care hanging around his neck and there is just something too slick about him (the same slick that bothers me about Obama). Christie has baggage, like his appointment of a Shri-ia supporting judge. And I don’t like the recent swipes he has taken at Palin although he has never met her.
As to Allen West: I disagree he needs more time for “political chops”. Remember, West was an officer for years and used to giving orders. He also has the moxie to stand up and say what he thinks and I like that.
Out of all of them, Jindal is the most intelligent, next to Ryan. I remember Jindal talking about Hurricane Ike for around 30 minutes with no notes. He knew every parrish, every agency, every little detail. No teleprompter needed. Yeah, his STOTU response was bad. But that was due to advisors, I’m sure. The guy in brilliant and has turned Lousiana around.
The guy who really believes in the Constitution, really believes in a MUCH smaller government, less federal intrusion into our lives and thinks that there is a reason the Founders wanted to limit the power of central government? You guess.
Negative name recognition is still name recognition. Sarah Palin 2012.
I believe that whoever gets the nomination, they must be a fairly new, “fresh” face to the Republican party. People like Ms. Palin, Mr. Rubio, Mr. Christie and a few others would be good choices. I will not support a candidacy by such people as Romney or Gingrich.
I personally believe that a ticket of Palin/Rubio would take the country by storm and beat down any effort by Obama and his team to hang on to power.
Allen West is the only man in politics I’m willing to put faith in, his experience fart outweighs anyone else’s, far as I’ve seen; He has honesty, integrity and leadership on his side. He can keep a straight face while talking, even under pressure.
I love Palin, but I think the Propaganda Bureaus have messed up her chances. We have excellent candidates Cain, West, Rubio, Jindal, and Ryan. West was an officer and I will put up his experience to ten years in the brothel of congress any day. We don’t need anyone with the slightest hint of RINO or CINO on their breath. McCain caused too many to stay home, we don’t want to make that mistake again.
All these men can beat Obama; always remember, he is his own worst enemy. We do everything we can to illustrate his failures and the next day he surpasses our best efforts.
The Romans understood this problem.
Deos enim religuos accepimus Caesarer dedimus
The gods were handed to us, but we created the Caesars.
Look for Obama to embroil us in a war during his last year. Afghanistan and Iraq are no longer hot enough for the public to stay focused on, but if he can get us into some little blood letting like Libya to impress upon the public how much he is needed to direct the war, he will be tough to beat. No doubt that his ineffectual foreign policy overtures or should we say undertures, will provide ample opportunity to send in the troops to guarantee his reelection.
We have good men available, never doubt their abilities. Compared to our ‘present’ president, they are superlative. Think positive and get ready to campaign like never before in your life. this country won’t be worth duck crap after another four years of Obama. Anytime you feel yourself starting to falter, just send me a note and I will give you the coach’s pep talk.
Victory for Freedom and Liberty in 2012.
If the price of gasoline keeps going up, and STAYS high (at least $4/gal) through next year, just about any of the above mentioned candidates will beat Barack Huessein Obama. NOTHING will bring home Obama’s failed policies faster, to more independent voters!!
So, how many oil drilling permits will the Interior Dept approve between now and then, and how many environmental heads will explode because of this “despoiling of the planet”?
Sarah Palin. I remember when she came on the tv, before she said half a dozen words, the thought just went through my mind, president. It just popped in I wasn’t even thinking, she had just started. Of course that doesn’t mean anything but it was a weird feeling. I saw her in Reno at a gathering, the place was packed.
Yes, they have ground her into the ground but she is still standing. If the whole of the party rallied around and put the effort into it she could beat the ….well I will be a lady here. Just got to accent the positive. ?
I don’t see anyone wanting to be president for the job, I only see them wanting the position.
I’ve said it before on this forum and I’ll say it again, my selections for 2012.
President – Herman Cain
Vice-President – Alan West (He did say he would consider – http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/146163-allen-west-not-ruling-out-vp-bid)
And to really make the ticket:
Secretary of State – John Bolton
Now THAT will take more duct tape than available to hold those Lib/Progressive heads together.
Instead of five or six Republicans running against each other they need to sit down and decide among themselves who has the most strength to win. Republicans need to pull together kinda like those toys in the cartoon that assemble into one huge monster to fight a common enemy. Some of the possible candidates have too much negative baggage . Only then can the Republicans win.
barack, steve, barry or whatever his name is has already shown it is not beneath him to pull out the thugs, cheaters, liars and thieves to help him get votes. He has already started. the gay in the military, being against the law that states marriage is between a man and a woman, wanting to give amnesty to illegals, not going after illegals, etc. These are all people that would be ‘beholding’ to barack and he will get their vote.
Republicans need to get strong, no they need to get a pair of iron cajones and like Governor Walker show leadership.
The Clintons will not let him run again. If he is at all smart he will step down quietly.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/25/opinion/25brooks.html
When THE TIMES writes this about a Republican, it means they fear him.
I see the “dislike” votes on my post, but I want to caution you good folks. I’ve worked on 4 National level campaigns in my lifetime, and 9 local campaigns.
Locally, I advise candidates to stay away from social issues. I actually worked for 1 Democrat and got the local Republican Town Committee to endorse that candidate. He won. He was a FISCAL CONSERVATIVE and locally, that’s 90% of the issue.
NOT SO with National candidates.
Just look at what makes the news circuit. Fiscal? Yes. But SOCIAL is what derails every one-sided fiscal conservative from taking office.
You HAVE to make up your minds about what is most important in any particular time frame.
Mitch Daniels is the obvious choice because on fiscal as well as social issues he’s virtually bulletproof.
Couple him with a young Tea Party rising star and victory is assured.
Christie, Rubio and Alan West are all hero’s of mine but they’re all NOT READY for the top spot yet. BUT THINK!
After 8 years as veep all of them would be terrifying opponents to any Democrat in 2020.
Marco Rubio would win in a landslide! Marco! Marco! Marco!
Obama is no doubt the man to beat. On his side, if the economy starts improving to where everyone starts feeling its effects, he will most likely win no matter who the Republicans run. His theme will be, “Now that everything is improving, do you want to change course?” Another factor he has on his side is that the Republicans will most likely maintain or expand their lead in the House and will capture the Senate. Voters may vote for him just to avoid one party control. He also has a well oiled attack machine and the benefit of free advertising with the MSM. Finally, the current mentioned Republican field at this point is weak and he probably won’t have too much of a problem beating any one of them.
On the negative side, there are numerous factors working against him. The unemployment rate is very high and the only ones who believe his crap about 36,000 jobs reducing the unemployment rate from 9.4% to 9.0% are his sheep. Most economists are saying that the jobs aren’t coming back anytime soon. Compounding this you have the effects of Obamacare still taking hold in the form of higher premiums and healthcare costs. Add in $5 for a gallon of gas and the ensuing inflation that it will cause and the average American is going to be taking a hit in the pocketbook both ways. People have a tendency to vote their pocketbooks and Americans will be reminded quite frequently of his comment about hoping gas hits $7 per gallon as well as his policy towards offshore drilling. The theme against him needs to be, “Are you better off now than what you were four years ago.” There is also the issue with SCOTUS’s decision on Obamacare. If it’s ruled unconstitutional, it will be a major hit against him.
Whoever runs against Obama will have to be the anti-Obama. It’ll have to be someone who is looked upon as a strong, experienced, mature leader who unites rather than divides people and puts America first. He/she will have to be fiscally conservative, strong on national security issues, and respect the Constitution. The nominee will also have to be able to stand up to the onslaught of Obama’s well organized attack machine and not be shy about fighting back aggressively. As for names, General Petreaus would probably be a sure bet to win as he fits all of the above but he most likely won’t run. But you never know. Remember Ike’s path to the WH.
Only Palin is leading the fight.
Palin 2012
My thoughts on the OP…
While Newt Gingrich would slaughter, literally slaughter Obama in the Presidential debates, and THAT alone would be well worth the price of admission, I feel he has too much baggage to get him into the Oval Office. His past marital woes, which in all fairness are behind him, coupled with that atrocious global warming commercial with Pelosi will do him in.
Palin, would as well do great in the debates. The difference between her and Gingrich is that unless Obama sweated so bad that he fell off his podium and fainted from the pressure, no matter how good Palin does in a debate, she will be painted by the MSM as coming up short. Could she be a great President? I do believe so.
Romney? No, no, no, no – a thousand times NO! He is Obama light where healthcare is concerned. The Tea Party would rip him apart.
Christie? Well when he blasted upon the scene, I was gung-ho wanting him to be our next Prez. But now that his ties to radical Islam have come forth, I will not support him. And make no mistake, he IS running. Otherwise, why would he have been on the media blitz he has been on as of late?
Herman Cain and Allen West would both be excellent candidates, but I agree that the name recognition is against them and this thread isn’t about who is a good candidate, it is about who can beat Obama.
I am drifting more and more towards Tim Pawlenty and I’ll tell you why. He has been “courting” the Tea Party as of late. His recent speeches show that he is serious about the vast majority of issues that myself, as a Conservative are in favor of. His CPAC speech, his more recent Tea Party speech in Phoenix and his speech to the Florida legislature all put him on a path that the Tea Party folks can get behind. And with the successes last November, it is evident that the Tea Party vote is a powerful thing.
As a Professional Gambler & Free Enterprise Man, here’s a possible winning POTUS ticket
for the Republicrats. I’ve bet on numerous elections in various countries with a 90%+
winning record over a 15 year timeline..
President: Congressman Lt. Col. Allen West
Vice President: Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (No matter who is nominated for POTUS)
Longshot: Governor Mitch Daniels for POTUS.
What the hell is the matter with you Republicans? Throwing in the towel before the game has even begun. Has any of you ever heard of Jimmy Carter, he was an incumbent and Obama is worst then him. The Republican progressive elites are a losing breed, and listening to them is as big of a mistake as listening to Obama and his socialist camp followers. Throw out the Kool Aid, buy a beer, roll up you sleeves and get to work. Whining will get you nowhere.
Take heart, L.E. Liesner. I’m pretty sure all of us would vote for Mickey Mouse over Obama. I think what Curt may be asking is just what candidates would inspire anyone enough to roll up those sleeves and get to work *for*. It sure can’t be another McCain. And unfortunately, that losing breed of GOP elite tend to have a lot of sway in the nominee picking and funneling of money.
Only one stirs my blood and passion to get involved…..Palin.
Groan…. surfing news and what do I land on? Romney is Obama-lite via an EPIC/MRA poll. Has Romney beating Obama by 5. Just what we need. I’d find myself pining for McCain at that choice.
@MataHarley:
I believe Romney could beat Obama, but I also believe the difference between them would be minimal.
I don’t want someone who will just beat Obama. I want someone who will chase him back to the hole he crawled out from.
I think it depends on whether the candidate is willing to take off the gloves and bare fist it with Obama.
If a divorce will stop our candidate while admitting to snorting coke doesn’t stop Obama – what’s wrong with this picture???
How about a thread where we can post the best lines Obama has said that can be used against him?
All his expiration dated promises.
All his out-and-out lies.
All his dithering.
All his hatred for business, for white police, for white men, for average Joes.
Obama can be beat by whoever has the guts to campaign like he/she really wants it.
I wrote some notes, It will take, ENERGY to work tiresly, SUPER POSITIVE THINKING OF HIS VISION OF THE FUTURE because of the reconstruction to be done , SWIFT decision maker, SWIFT TONGUE can ouspeak the best elquent journalist question, PATRIOT enough to sing the AMERICAN ANTHEM and shed a couple of tear,as his or her audience suddenly sing along, A legit BIRTH CERTIFICAT, AN EXPERIENCE IN THE WARZONE
@ilovebeeswarzone:
I understand, and completely agree with your sentiments, Ms. Bees, but I would correct the above partial statement to read as follows:
I’m not being nitpicky here, but there are several strong conservative women, such as Ms. Palin, Ms. Bachmann, and Ms. Haley, that could easily do what you suggest.
johngalt ,yes I’ll try to add it up thank you,
did you ever thought of running as a citizen ? v OBAMA
Curt,
It’s not who can beat Obama in 2012, it’s who’s going to get the democratic nomination, since Obama won’t be running. Too many states are passing legislation making it mandatory for a politician to prove they are a legal citizen of the USA, and Obama can’t do that. The democrats have admitted that they didn’t prove he is a legal citizen like the Constitution requires.
Since the democrats didn’t worry about the Constitution BEFORE the election, why would they be concerned about it NOW?
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Marco Rubio would win in a landslide! Marco! Marco! Marco!
Rubio needs to get some experience under his belt. People complain among other things that barack didn’t have experience. This guy doesn’t either. however there is another issue. Rubio was born in Miami, Florida. His parents are Cuban. Only if his parent became American citizens before his birth can he be called a natural born citizen. If my research is correct, his parents are still Cuban citizens. Therefore, by the Constitution he is not eligible to run for the President of the United States. However after saying that he is in a great position to help Florida and the people.
Personally, I see Alan West or Herman Cain as real dark horse candidates, both of whom could really energize the country. I have really been impressed with both of them and they seem to not only exude the leadership qualities I want to see in my President, but they also seem to approach this with commen sense. Again, just my view, but we really need some new blood!!!
anticsrocks, hi, you put your fingers on a very important and TERRIBLE FACT,
THE INFLUENCENCE OF THE MEDIA OVER ELECTION,
THAT IS A SHAME ON THEM, AS IT WAS ON THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,
the PEOPLE are glued to their television and or other connections, to swallow some proeminent
media who project their own choice and blatently sell it to the listener INTO
A WELL HIDDEN FRAME, AND THE MAINSTREAM PEOPLE BUY IT ARE INCITED BY IT, AND MAKE IT THEIR OWN, what a brainstruck is happeningto themwho embrace a talking point totaly as the truth,
that must be important for the CANDIDAT TO COUNTER AS MUCH AS HE CAN,
RT @FloppingAces: Who Can Beat Obama In 2012? http://bit.ly/fcUBhH #tcot #teaparty #rightnetwork
Huckabee and Romney couldn’t beat McCain who couldn’t beat Obama. That pretty much counts them out although either one would be better. As for Palin, she would be great but I honestly fear for her life should she get the nomination. Before throwing the towel in we need to remember that this will be a much different climate out there than 2008. Even if the rosiest pictures come true, the economy will still be in worse shape than what it was when Obama took office. The financial outlook for the country is also way worse thanks to his deficit spending. He will try to blame Bush and his sheep will go along with it but his signature is at the bottom of those budgets and in a court of law that constitutes ownership. If the Republicans nominate a candidate who can beat him, and there are capable people out there, and they choose one of the up and coming stars as VP such as Ryan or West, they can very well have a lock on the Presidency for the foreseeable future.
anticrocsrocks, hi again, for my previous comment, I’d like to add that the candidate,
should have special unit to dissect the talking point on adverse PRIME MEDIAS,
to concentrate only to that TASK and EXPOSE their HIDDEN BIAS LIES in many different ways to reach all AMERICANS VOTERS at large,
FA and the CONSERVATIVES blogs could be part of it too, very well
Conservatives who threaten the left’s power suffer sustained campaigns of demonization by the state run media and the Democrat political machine. Look what they did to Gingrich, DeLay, Bush II, Bork, and Thomas, to name a few who have been targeted. Palin and her family have been attacked far more viciously than any of those gentlemen, yet she has emerged stronger than ever. Her opponents on the left have run out of ammunition to use against her.
But, if another candidate emerges, they will be attacked just as viciously. Can they come through unscathed? Will they have the strength of character and political instincts necessary to survive? We know Palin can, because she has already survived.
She has an energized fan base far exceeding anything that the other contenders can muster. That means she can raise the sort of money that is going to be needed to beat Obama. She is already on the right side on the crucial issues – Drill, Baby, Drill is looking pretty good as gas heads to $5 or more. She loathes Obamacare. She has framed the debt crisis as a intergenerational theft and immoral. I think she is just getting started on destroying Obama and his legacy.
Pat, hi, you got super argument for SARAH PALIN, FURTHERMORE she would have to pick her
crew early on even earlyer than the regular time, so to let everyone know from the
beginning ,to sound the voters input, and make sure to mention that this election is
so critical that all need to join her to save AMERICA’s standing among the AMERICANS, and also among
THE FREE NATIONS OF THE WORLD bye
Pat, hi, also she has to, she must put war zone military hero in the crew ,
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone: I hear you on that one, bees. My mother, who is 82 years old commented to me that she was afraid Palin didn’t have enough experience when McCain picked her. She also thought he was too old to be President. In other words, she believed what the MSM told her. She gets all her news from the networks; as do a great many Americans, even in this day and age.
@anticsrocks:
In total agreement, antics. My mother-in-law and sister-in-law both voted for Obama, and both cited a severe dislike for Ms. Palin as a main reason, and all because the MSM told them how to think concerning her qualifications.
Think about this for a moment: if the Republicans managed to turn the nation around and minimize our debt, it will benefit Obama. He will take credit for that just as he has placed all the blame for a bad economy on the shoulders of George Bush, and for the most part, gotten by with that.
If gas goes down, Obama will take credit for that.
If the unemployment rate goes down, Obama will take credit for that.
Success by the Republican Congress will be reported by the MFM as an Obama success. So basically, Republicans are in a “damned if they do and damned if they don’t” senario.
Obama won for three reasons: first; the MFM’s inital backing of John McCain, the biggest RINO on the primary ticket; second; the MFM’s failure to truely vet Obama or report on all his shady connections to people like Ayers, Khalidi, Edward Said, etc.; and third; boots on the ground. Obama, via Axelrod, managed to create the greatest astroturf campaign in our history. We are still paying for that little endeavor, with Organizing for Obama now called Organizing for America and being paid for by us taxpayers.
Without those boots on the ground for a Republican candidate, we are doomed to another four years of our first truely Marxist president. We must mobile, take to the streets, hand out flyers, knock on doors, basically adopt the tactics that David Axelrod designed. And remember that we will get NO help from the MFM and it is up to us to dispel all the falsehoods that will come from the MSM. We did not do that in 2008 because no one was excited about McCain. But that is no longer an option, to sit by and let the Dems steal (yes, steal) another election.
There is only one candidate that has been out there fighting for conservative values the past 2 years. She is the only candidate that has gone toe to toe with Obama. She is the only candidate who had actively campaigned for real conservatives in 2010.
The fact that there any hesitancy on our side for Sarah speaks to how well the left dominated media is living in some of our side’s heads.
If we nominate Huck, Pawlenty, Newt or Mitt, I will not vote for the top of the ticket. I will not send them one dime. I won’t lift a finger to help them. Have you forgotten 2008 so soon. I will not be a party to that crap again.
Plus, if Sarah were to pick Col West as veep, OMG, what a ticket. Anyone talking smack about his “experience” is clueless. Listen to him clearly define our enemy abroad. I will put his total, historical understanding of the true nature of Islam against any pol. Plus as an added bonus, think West vs Biden in the VP debate-oh gosh, that’s pay per view baby!
This country is overwhelmingly conservative. The liberals themselves have told us who they fear most. Run a GD conservative, not one of the mealy mouthed group of 4, and we will crush Obama.
Damn, this drives me crazy. Why do you let the media steer you? Remember 2008 and once they got our candidate picked, they immediately turned on him. The commenter that referenced Carter is spot on, Obama is far, far worse-2012 is ours for the taking. We just have to steel ourselves like we did in 1980 x10. And work our asses off.
WOW, this is the SPIRIT OF AMERICA WAKING UP, ENERGYSE AMERICANS LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW,
#33 AND #34 part of your problem Birthers. Rubio an AMERICAN CITIZEN by birth has the best chance if he runs but it doesn’t yet look like he will.I continue to believe he will be the next Conservative Pres. Repub primary battle will be brutal beginning with Iowa caucus in Feb.and N.H. primary in March.Romney is positioned to win both and become front runner.South Carolina next with Palin and Huck. early favorites. Mitch Daniels will benefit from deadlock and is a darkhorse.Rubio’s backing in Fla. primary may decide the eventual nominee.Should be great sport as Obama,Axelrod and Co. gird
for a tough,close election.
Personally, I think it wrong to blame Mac,moderates or MSM for 08 loss. It was Dems. time (Clinton or BHO) and vote was anti=Bush.As mentioned, Repubs. can be fiscally Conserv. but must be socially moderate to win in 2012 America.
Semper Fi
At this point,Charlie Sheen’s not a bad choice.
the struggler, great idea, he made a president in his movie very credible,
In my humble opinion the ONLY way to overcome the continued (false) “racist” accusations from the Democrats is to vote in another black man for president. The absolute best candidate is ALLEN WEST. He is EVERYTHING that Obama ain’t; and that my friends is very-very good for America!
Most of the women I know are Republican and a large majority of them really dislike Sarah Palin. I don’t understand their disdain for her. Having said that, all the men I know really like Sarah Palin. I do think she is a real risk for the GOP as a candidate.
On the subject; any woman who is a conservative who runs the MSM will attempt to discredit. The leftists would like to have a plaque on there wall saying they had the first black and first female president so they can prove once and for all that they are not the kkk members they used to be. Well the first black president is a disgrace and who will be the first female president; Hill-dog?…… Yea right… There are way better choices from the tea party, for woman presidents.
cank, hi, why would she be a real risk?
richard wheeler, you said IT was vote anti BUSH, WHY doyou think?,
I tell you, why, BECAUSE the propagande was working hard to demonyse him,
because they made the election on the back of PRESIDENT BUSH, not on the ability of
OBAMA, and It was dirty enough that the one close to the candidat mention that if he loose,
there will be a riot in there, that’s why
@another vet: You said:
But remember that Reagan ran and lost narrowly to Ford in ’76, then came back and had landslides in ’80 and ’84.
anticsrocks, hi, yes but this is a very diffrent ball game, uncomparable to there
about opponant to beat, bye
Palin has been slathered/slimed with the Dan Quale broad brush. Too many ‘mushy-heads’ have now grown-up from kindergarten into the new voting bloc (Social engineering) and were easily permanently mentally crippled by a ‘slip or two of the lip’. She draws too much fire and the GOP will again loose if she runs. (sorry)
Why B.O. Bama continually has his ‘slips of the lip’ and is not condemned is only an affirmation of the ignorance of Americans in this new age!
One Way Jose Repubs. tried African American leadership immediately after BHO victory with Michael Steele as R.N.C. Chairman. How’d that work out? Only place I’ve seen him lately is on MSNBC.
One Way Jose, hi, I see that you are the person who observe well before saying, and your good judgment is saying the right words for us to believe and take note of it’s importance when the election arrive,
good leaders will never fail their judgment, thank you
@ richard wheeler, Hyphenated Leadership is not Leadership. Period. What is required is Leadership for ALL Americans, not just a few. Are You trying to sneak a race card in here? Hyphenation is divisive.
O.T. Heavens no.Simply responding to Jose’s comment in #51.The timing of his election and his subsequent “bum’s rush” after only 2 years are notable.
Would also suggest claiming the POTUS and/or the junior U.S SENATOR from Fla. are not U.S. Citizens is very divisive.
How’s it going in Brussels?Thoughts on HRC’S performance over last 2 years.
OLD TROOPER 2, hi, yes he did try it on One Way Jose
bye
@ richard wheeler, Do You regard Hyphenation as divisive? The birther argument was dead in the water many months ago. Why is Hyphenation important? Unless Folks having ‘divided loyalties’ is a plus? How can that be viewed as anything but divisive?
This hyphenation thing must go away unless someone has something to gain from it.
O.T. The birther issue obviously not dead at F.A. and now Marco Rubio’s citizenship is questioned in post 34.
I believe the color of a man’s skin,his religion and his sexual pref. are irrelevant.PERIOD
Personally, if someone wants to refer to themseves as an Italian American,Irish American etc. I’d say they have the right to do so and it’s no big deal.
@ richard wheeler
Testy at NATO. I’m going to Frankfurt right now. We had Two US Service Members murdered and one, make that TWO wounded. Update from Al Jazeera. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2011/03/201132154234681931.html
We monitor their content for obvious reasons. As does the Middle east in General.
On HRC, if mediocrity is the New Standard, she is meeting it. If having zero Foreign Relations experience on Her part qualified Her, We are getting exactly what We paid for. The mediocrity part is what I hear from Foreign Military that are waiting for US Leadership to step up, not UN sanctions that most Dictators ignore or make light of The Brits have had boots on the ground for a few days, not Troops on a Float off shore. Brit RAF and SBS, SAS guys. They sent Their best. Gotta run.
Further Update:
British special forces are poised to seize caches of mustard gas and other potential chemical weapons being stored by Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s regime in the Libyan desert.
SAS ready to seize Col Gaddafi’s stores of mustard gas
While US Troops are on a Float or back in the Barn.
@anticsrocks: That’s true but they don’t seem to have the same type of presence as Reagan did. He was a longtime spokesman for the party going all the way back to when he campaigned for Goldwater. Romney has the Romneycare stigma attached to him. Both would definitely be better than what we have now. Perhaps ’08 wasn’t their year. I’m guessing whoever would have ran against Obama in 2008 would have lost given the way he was annointed as the next President and the country was probably looking for a change as they were in ’92 and ’00, just not the type he delivered. Right now Obama’s approval rating is a tad less than 50%. If gas hits $5 a gallon that will probably plummet making him more vulnerable to whoever the Republicans run especially if unemployment stays high. Whoever is at the top of ticket should seriously consider Allen West as VP. Not only is he a refreshing figure who will attract Republicans and Tea Partyers alike, he will also help negate the race card which will surely be played especially if Obama is threatened in the polls.
richard wheeler, NO THE isuue Is not coming from F.A,
It’s coming from you, and you are not a F.A. FOLLOWER,
ONLY A F.A. TROUBLE STIRER MEANING, TROUBLE MAKER
another vet, hi, I also would be sure to say that ALLEN WEST will rally some of OBAMA
followers, who are being very disapointed of him right now since his election promisses
did not lives to their expectansy. they are probably check and listen to ALLEN WEST eloquent
and true words, and are starting to make the difference in the goal of what should follow
A REAL PRESIDENT OF THIS GREAT NATIONAND HIS UNMATCHABLE CONSTITUTION,
FOR FREEDOM AND LIBERTY FOR ALL REGARDLESS OF COLOUR,
KEEPING ONE NAME, AND SAYING PROUDLY, I AM AN AMERICAN
SMORGASBORD, hi, what your comment tell me, is THAT all DEMOCRATS DID NOT FOLLOW
THE LAW ON A SUCH IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE AMERICANS, AND THEY FAIL AMERICA,
THAT IS NOTEBLE TO THINK THEY SHOULD ALL HAVE BEEN ARRESTED,
as the people make 2 plus 2 makes 4, they will naturaly take all of them out of GOVERNMENT JOBS
because of their FELONY in the next election,
What were Carter’s numbers at this time…just asking. I bet they were solid too.
#70
This is why there should be what I call a Political Crimes Tribunal that would do the same thing as the War Crimes Tribunal, except that it would go after politicians who commit crimes while they are or were in office. If such a tribunal would be set up, it would end the democratic party, because they would all be in jail.
@another vet: I know what you’re saying, and you are bees are right. But I was just saying that sometimes you can’t count people out right away. However, you are correct about Romney, he is Obama-lite when it comes to healthcare.
RE: #59; Richard Wheeler, comparing Michael Steele to Allen West? [Come on....] Remove their ‘color’ similarity and they have about as much in common as say, …Carter and Reagan. Steele flamed-out.
If my memory is correct, B.O. Bama was only a junior Senator when he received the blessing of the ‘unwashed’ masses; and, the only combat experience he had was in Chicago doing ‘community (gang) organizing’.
Anyone who cannot see the necessity of having national defense savvy in the world we are now in is indeed asleep at the switch!
I’m outta here… “Game, set and match”
Whoops!!!!!!
3 Dutch marines held in Libya after failed rescue
While US Forces are still on a Float and Our Best are still in the Barn, awaiting Orders…..
As I previously stated, the Meterosexual Dutch Military, that is Unionized by the way, is not feared by anyone.
Wonder why?
I don’t.
against humanity? what humanity, they lost their humanity by following barbaric actions
and killing human been
Just found someone else likes Allen West:
One very important concept was made here that I really like. That is that the Republicans should set down and decide ahead of time who the STRONGEST candidate is amongst themselves. Then, full support and reason should be given. Regarding my own personal thoughts, I like Palin but I think she’s been targeted and she will not get the vote that we need. Romney is to much like Obama. Huckabee has the immigrant problem. I have never campaigned in over 50 years of my life. However, I would change that TODAY if tomorrow Allen West said he was running for President. I believe with his focus on the truth in life, he could win. It’s time we get back to the “basics” of who we are as a people. He would focus on the Constitution and the people are going to respond to that after having to be under Obama’s dictatorship. Thanks for letting me share my thoughts.
Iris, hi, many are saying the same words as your’s, ALLEN WEST has capture so many with his elegant and straight to the truth personality,
thank you
richard wheeler I see you have your fun playing with the dislike button,
now your out in the open, how do you like it to be found
IRIS & ILOVEBEES: “Right on!” —Hope Mr. West is listening—
@Doods: Yeah I can tell by the way you spell you are a Palin fan lol
Disenchanted, hi, yes and we had a ILLARIO PANTANO that would have move things around pretty well too, I think someone put a dirty block on the wheel, for him not to get it this time, but I hope he get it the next time, AMERICA need a man like him in POWER,
Bill, hi, who’s Doods?
@ilovebeeswarzone: See comment #5, beesy.
anticsrock, thank you, I had not seen his comment before, probably that I went up the ladder to fast and short comments goes by unseen, I appreciate your classy note
Cain/West….West/Cain………………..2 of the best I’ve seen/heard so far. No Romney or the other mentioned.
I’m for a Paul Ryan / Ann Coulter ticket. Yes, it’ll never happen, but can you imagine the Vice Presidential debate folks??? Biden would be shell-shocked. If Ann’s not an option (I doubt she’d want to give up her more lucrative gigs), I suppose I would settle for Chris Christie. Basically, the dynamic I’m going for here is an “enforcer” type VP, who can out-debate the opposition and put the MSM’s talking heads in their place. Leaving the path for a smooth and polished Ryan to take an ax to our budget, and get this country headed back into the black. I know, I know, but a man can dream, can’t he?
@Machiavelli:
In other words….someone with a spine!
Machiavelli, hi, AS you know, reality is that’s what dreams are made of
Colin Powell will make a comeback and win it all and Condi Rice will be the VP.
@Bone: Only if he runs as a Democrat…
@anticsrocks:
Yeah…remember he endorsed OBAMA in 2008? Condi Rice….okay
I think Condi is too smart to run for President with the present political climate.
Anticsrocks #96
How about FA starting a writein campaign to get her to put her name in the running.
@Smorgasbord: Condi/Palin? or Condi/West? or….
Count me in!
I would prefer to not waste my vote on one of these clowns. I’ll be voting for a real American that cares about this country and its people. He also has the best voting record, shows he can beat Obama in scientific polls and wont the CPAC 2 years in a row.
I am talking about Ron Paul.
@Dan: He only won CPAC’s straw poll because he loaded it up with tons of his supporters ahead of time.
I can never vote for someone who blames America for 9/11. He did it in the primary debate in ’07 and again on CNN’s Larry King Live.
He may know a thing or two about fiscal policy, but he would not make a good CIC.
As a republican for 35 yrs and a tea party member, I don’t know who is going to get the nomination for P/VP for the republican party. I am praying that they will choose someone with a backbone. Forget the “name recognition”, we are going boots on the ground and taking example from “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky. They will have name recognition. Can you imagine, “It’s time for raising Cain” or “West is Best” ?
What is important is that conservative, right wing, and moderate Republicans come together and work like the dickens
Flashi: That’s the key word “backbone”
Sarah Palin is well-liked by many conservatives. But MOST state polls taken show that people would favor Obama over Palin. For that reason,
most Democrats would LOVE IT if Palin won the nomination, because they know that Obama would beat her.
A possible winning ticket to beat Obama would be Mitt Romney/Michelle Bachmann. Romney might be able to eloquently explain what he did with health care in Mass, and why he did it. He has to make it clear that it was an individual state experiment, and that he doesn’t favor Obamacare. The Tea Party
crowd LOVES Bachmann. She is a solid conservative who has stood strong against Obama. She also had loads of charisma, and no personal baggage.
or Romney/West might beat Obama. I don’t think Alan West will run for President, but he might run for Vice President.
@Leslie: Romneycare will be a stone around his neck. But what would be really weird would be to see the Dems run down Obamacare in order to turn voters off of Romney.
Yes, Romneycare will be a problem for Mitt Romney, but it is NOT an insurmountable problem.
Romney has to be articulate about what he did in Mass. and why. Almost all polls show that Huckabee had the best chance of beating Obama. But Huckabee is not running.
The polls say that Romney has the NEXT best chance of beating Obama. Romney is a very good businessman, and he knows how to create jobs. These things will really resonate with voters, in our terrible current economic climate. Romney also polls well with independent voters, and he can raise a LOT of money. Those things are all important. If he chooses someone new and exciting as his Vice Presidential running mate, he could have a good chance of beating Obama. Bachmann is very charistmatic and exciting. So is Alan West. Both Bachmann and West are solid conservatives the Tea Party loves, and they would really energize a Romney ticket.
@Leslie: Don’t put THAT much faith into the polls. Keep in mind that a few days before the 1980 election the polls showed that Reagan was trailing Carter and he beat him in a landslide.
Romney just seems too establishment and I think that is a nearly insurmountable problem in this upcoming election. The midterms were all about getting rid of the deadwood and electing folks who weren’t Washington insiders. Romney smacks of the Rockefeller Republican crowd and that is not a good thing.
You may be right, we shall see. If Romney does get the nod, I will hold my nose and vote for him, but that is because in that case it would be a vote against Obama rather than a vote for Romney.
You may be right about Romney being too “establishment.” I’m just trying to figure out who can beat Obama. With Huckabee and Daniels deciding not to run, the field is looking pretty dismal right now.
I absolutely LOVE Michelle Bachmann, but worry that she may not get the nomination, because of her lack of executive experience. Pawlenty is already being characterized as “McCain-lite”, and he also strikes me as being a lightweight. Herman Cain does not have the name recognition, and he’s raised a whopping $13,000 so far. I don’t think Alan West will run for President, though he might run for Vice President. West would be awesome as a VP. I’d love to see Chris Christie run, but he’s made it clear that he’s not running.
“Establishment” or not, Romney strikes me as a real heavyweight. He won’t be as good as Gingrich in a debate, but he’ll still be good in a debate against Obama. I think he has a chance, running on a ticket WITH a new face that is not establishment, such as Bachmann or West as Vice President. If our economy continues to be as bad in November 2012 as it is right now, Republicans and Independents will vote for Romney.
Yesterday I cheered when I heard that Mr. Cain put his name in the hat. I told my husband about it. He was thinking “McCain” and looked at me as if I lost my mind. I figured it out and said, “No, not McCain. Cain, the pizza man.” He said that he could get behind Cain. So I sent some of his money as donation. LOL
If you checked those same polls, all of the GOP candidates are behind in the polls. It’s just too early and no one is really dialling in yet.
As for Cain, just wait for the MSM machine to gear up. He won’t know what will hit him.
@Leslie: I really hope that Christie doesn’t get into the race, but I fear he will. The only thing conservative about Christie is his fiscal policy. Other than that, he believes in man-made global warming, he is shaky, to say the least, on the 2nd amendment and he has close ties to radical muslims.
But if no clear front runner emerges, I am afraid the GOP establishment will come to him and talk him into running.
Anyone who thinks that our country is not messed up beyond belief is living in a fantasy world. No one and I mean no one can make a bigger mess than Obama has made. When the left wing liberals start boiling and eating their cats things will get better. Trust me, hunger will give you a quick attitude adjustment. People would do good to look at out debt and the inflation we have and maybe even hyperinflation coming down the pike when the interest rates start to climb back up and the fractional reserve banks start to dump all the printing press money on the market. However, no, all they want to see is strut and shine, which is what Obama has and nothing else. One thing for sure strut and shine will not put meat on your bones. So for anyone crazy enough to put this man back into office, I wish you all the luck in the world because you are going to need it. The ones of us who have common sense and who own land, and can plant their own food, and is debt free will fair OK, but for the ones who like strut and shine and cannot add two and two and come up with four and who rely on the main stream media for all of their information, and last but not least thinks the world owes them something then have at it. Reelect Obama and see where it gets’s you. Anyone care for boiled cat.
One last thing, our number one problem is politicians who love to spend, Democrats and Republicans, along with a fiat money system and their partner in crime the Federal Reserve. Our debt stems from those things, pure and simple, nothing else. Come on boys we need to get reelected so drag out the government check book and let’s pile some money on some free loaders and collect their vote. That my friends will catch up to you in the long run. Like I say, “anyone care for cat”.
Plat, I hate boiled cat, so I will vote for Mickey Mouse over Obama.
Is everyone going to stand by and allow politicians to choose future politicians? I, for one, am not happy with their choices so far so why would I want to give them that power again?
I know that the Republican establishment, where I am, has practically written Mr. Cain off with less than three days into his campaign. When someone denigrates someone without knowledge, I have no use for them. I think it’s shameful. A man, who speaks from the heart, is called “entertainment”. What have we come to?
Mr. Cain would surround himself with the best economic and military minds available. There will be no czars. He would abide by his oath to the Constitution. I’m not counting him out. This time it’s We The People.. not sheep being led blindly.
Flashi…I agree with you 100%!
Flashi, you got it, yes, the PEOPLE POWER WILL DO IT
BYE
Email: May 19, 2011
Governor Rick Perry,
I have never written a letter like this before…but I have never been more concerned and worried about the direction our county is heading in…We are truly at the crossroads of what could be the most vital turning point in our nation’s history…We are being led off a cliff by a madman that somehow became president of the greatest country on earth…A madman that no one knew anything about and still was elected to the most powerful position on the planet…only because he was always and still is protected by a bias and corrupt national media without a conscious…that only knows how to give him a pass and would never dare question who or what he really was…Now we know that this madman is a compete fraud and he is pushing our country into the abyss and to brink of no return…
I have followed your political career and I highly admire and respect you… I have seen the true qualities and the solid leadership you possess in all the great things that you have done for Texas…I know that the great state of Texas needs you…but this great country needs you more and needs you now…Our country has never been in a more dire and desperate position than it is now…Our county is slowly dying and is in a death roll of a crisis like never before…Obama is our nations greatest crisis…he is the cancer that is painfully destroying our country from within…If we do not stop Obama in 2012, our country will never be the same again…we will never recover from the fundamental changes and this nightmare that we all are being forced to live in…
I am only one voice right here and right now… but there are millions of others all around our great country that are pleading and are praying along with myself, for you to consider running for the presidency of the United States…There will never be another time like this…there has never been a more crucial time than now and there may never be another chance left for any of us if we do not stop the madness that is breaking the back of our country and bringing us to our knees…
The republican party is a mess just like everything else is in this country…We have no leaders…the party and the candidates are weak and in total disarray and will defeat itself against Obama…We need you Mr. Perry…our country desperately needs you…we need a true, strong conservative leader that has proven himself…we need a leader that can talk the talk and walk the walk and that has a great family behind him…we need someone that can lead us out of this nightmare and put us back on a path that helped make our country the greatest and strongest on earth…we need someone like you that can make our country stronger and better than ever before…or we will never be that great country again…
It is now or never…We must persevere…We must win…There is no option…
God Bless You and your family and God Bless America…
Respectfully Submitted,
KReed
KReed, WOW, this will surely get answerd, absolutly a contribution to find the best PERSON,
is the only way to go, many like will follow on your initiative,
best to you thank you for AMERICA
joetote, on 35, march one, we are on MAY 28, AND the last speech of HERMAN CAIN,
HAS POWERED THE CROWD OF 50000 PEOPLE, this speech is resounding in many ears now,
and you are right CAIN HAS THE STUFF TO BECOMING THE NEXT PRESIDENT WITH HIS HEART
AND SOUL,
BYE
Roman Cantrell, hi, on may 28, please read the speech from HERMAN CAIN and video,
it will sweep your feet of the floor.
bye
CBR you have to add a SARAH PALIN THERE TOO,
THIS NEXT ELECTION will demand a CREW already settle to work with one leader they have accepted to follow,
this is crucial to win, just like a battle of righ against wrong,
heaven against hell.
@CbR: With Ron Paul as Secretary of the Treasury
@KReed: I used to be a strong Rick Perry supporter, until I was listening to the Mark Levin radio program this past Friday.
Seems he is against the Arizona bill that enables it to enforce illegal immigration that was signed into law by Gov. Jan Brewer.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/30/rick-perry-no-arizona-style-immigration-law-for-texas-thanks/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003882-503544.html
He also signed into law, a bill that granted In-State tuition to illegal aliens.
http://www.infowars.com/rick-perry-and-tuition-for-illegal-aliens/
http://www.alipac.us/article4944.html
On taxes, he seems very, VERY liberal –
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/politifact/011610_perrytaxes.pdf
I was amazed to hear these allegations coming from the Texas callers into the Mark Levin radio show, so I looked them up when I got home and every one of them seem to be true.
It is sad that the GOP is finding it harder and harder to discover TRUE conservatives to turn to for leadership.
anticsrocks, good that some like you find their faults big enough to take them off the list.
now that put HERMAN CAIN CLOSER WITH SARAH PALIN.
DO YOU THINK,
@ilovebeeswarzone: Yeah beezy, I think that in order for us to get a handle on the progressive-socialist agenda that has been in play for over 7 decades in this country, we will have to scrutinize our prospective Conservative leaders with a hefty magnifying glass.
Any RINO that gets elected will only make things worse, it will slow things down from the blistering pace Obama has set, but it won’t stop them.
TIM, YES, LET THEM DO THE SMEAR IF THEY DARE,
THAT WILL SHOW HOW RACIST THEY ARE, THIS TIME THE BALL WILL TINGLE THEIR LEGS
BYE
Well……. If a Native Kenyan can be president…Why don’t we make a Native Russian president? I say lets put Vladamir Putin in Office, He is real, He is a visionist, He is straight forward with everything, He does not give a crap what Europe ,China, or anyone else thinks! And he actually has balls and knows how to eliminate any un-necessary baggage!!! I wish that we had someone who was not dependent on the political system of present because it is a certain slow death for what we cherish!
George Bush Sr. was also an incumbant! I hope Palin runs because when she loses, maybe she will finally disappear back under her rock! Yuck! Maybe the campaign to draft Christie will work. Would like to see what he really can do. You Republicans are really dreaming, though, with Gingrich, Ryan, etc. They have already shot themselves in the foot, and, have no chance. I want to see a good Dem emerge and challenge Obummer for the nomination. And if he/she wins, that is the person I would vote for. Otherwise, there are several million people who may do write ins.
@Arsinoe: You are discounting a whole bunch of candidates/potential candidates there aren’tcha?
You despise Palin, yet you pine for Christie. That shows your true colors, because once you get away from fiscal policies, Christie is clearly shown to be a RINO.
* He is a believer in AGW
* He is not strong on the 2nd Amendment
* He is not against Obamacare
* He has ties to radical Islam
I may agree with you that Gingrich shot himself in the foot, but why do you mention Ryan? He isn’t even considering a run.
Perhaps you might look for room under the rock you crawled out of…
Ars inoe woops my error,
what was your point again, we have the best here to those who can see,
the quality needed for a PRESIDENT, those will reignite the flame that they blew off, and never again will AMERICA DO THE SAME MISTAKE,
what was your point again?
@ilovebeeswarzone: Go get him, beezy!!
anticsrocks hi, you must see the SKOOKUM POST TITLE: I LIKE THAT DARK HORSE,
DON’T MISS THE VIDEO, YOU WILL LOVE IT
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone: Thanks, beezy! Don’t know how I missed that post by Skookum.
Great article and great video.
Gary Johnson can beat Obama. He is the only true fiscal conservative with a proven track record as Governor of New Mexico. The guy climbed Mt. Everest. He’s not a whimp who will roll over for the critics.
Mark
BEST BET!….. HERMAN CAIN FOR PRESIDENT AND LT. COL. ALLEN WEST FOR VICE PRESIDENT!!!
1. They are not part of the Mayhem we are having to digest now!
2. They can absorb the vote of the majority of:
a. Productive citizens
b. Black vote (especially professionals would rally behind them)
c. Jewish vote and support (They have had enough of Obama, and don’t even try to tell somebody what Jews think when they are a Jew!)
d. Small and Medium business people!
f. Any conservative that has a lick of sense and understands how those in office have betrayed us!
g. Total military vote….ehhhh 98%
I bet we can get at least 60% of the vote with them!
They both are very intelligent and bright men, Obama would lose hands down to attack them! They could reveal him for the Idiot he really is! No room for Racial issues! No room for Jihadist! Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson in the unemployment line!!! (Hell that alone would be worthwhile!!!)
@J V Hoffman: Okay, I like Cain and West as well.
So you’re saying they’ve got the midget vote?
@anticsrocks: Look at the Statistics my friend small (under 100 employees) and medium (under 300 employees) Employ the majority of Americans…No midget! And they would also carry a larger number of those who work for large corporations seeing the dependability factor for retirements has really dropped!
It just occur to me, that 2 can decide that one will be the sacrificial lamb to take the rapt of the MEDIA,
to save the other energy so to the other emerge energyse to take it all for AMERICA ONLY WITH A POWER HIT THAT WILL SINK THE OPPONANT
IN THE RIVER OF NO RETURN.
Anticsrocks P.C. not midgets They’re “little people” How you feeling?
Btw Cain will need all the support he can get to win nom.
Ever noticed how some people attached themselves to certain terms? Amazing it actually reflect s their nature and the reality of who they are! Like “little people” Those who are really nothing but want others to think they are, naturally seek to climb up using terms, phases, the back of someone else, or their proverbial one liner crock of Sh_t!
Who are the people who use the terms like “little people” take a look! Yes they probably are not even tax payers either!
Only the little people pay taxes
It has been over three years since Warren Buffett pointed out that he pays a smaller percentage of his income in taxes than his employees. In fact, his receptionist payed almost twice the percentage he pays, even though he doesn’t even take advantage of tax shelters that are available to the rich.
It isn’t like the rich don’t appreciate this. Some of you may remember billionaire real estate baroness Leona Helmsley, who was prosecuted for fraud and tax evasion by then District Attorney Rudy Giuliani. During her trial, one of her maids famously quoted Helmsley as saying “We don’t pay taxes. The little people do.”
So it is somewhat fitting that a study of the Helmsley Building shows that the rich residents of that building also pay a far smaller percentage of their income than “the little people”. The residents averaged over a million dollars in income in 2007, and yet they paid less than 15% of this in federal taxes. On the other hand, the workers in that building — janitors and security guards — who earned on average a paltry $30,000 dollars a year, paid as much as a quarter of that in federal taxes. Can you even survive in New York City on $23,000 a year?
And it isn’t just rich individuals that are making out like bandits. Corporations are using tax loopholes to avoid paying any taxes at all.
For example, in 2009 Bank of America didn’t pay a single dollar in federal income taxes, while at the same time paying their top executives salaries as high as $30 million. Another bank, Citigroup, recently reported zero taxes owed for the third quarter of 2010.
And it isn’t just banks. Boeing hasn’t paid any federal taxes since 2008. Exxon-Mobil does pay taxes but somehow manages using offshore subsidiaries in the Caribbean to not pay any of them in the US. That’s right, no US taxes, even though in 2009 they passed Wal-mart in the Fortune 500 and paid their CEO over $29 million in salary. Likewise, General Electric paid no federal taxes in 2009, and neither did Wells Fargo.
So, given this situation, why was it so absolutely important to extend Bush’s tax cuts for the rich? We had those tax cuts for 10 years — did they help the economy? Did they trickle down and create new jobs? Is our economy booming like they promised us?
And now, we are being asked to believe that in order to balance our budget, we have to cut salaries for teachers and firefighters? Seriously? How stupid do they think we are?
@J V Hoffman: lol, I was just trying to inject a bit of humor.
@rich wheeler: lol, thanks for the clarification!
Thank you for asking, I am still battling my CHF, seems more adjustments of my meds are in order.
Taking so many meds that I rattle when I walk now, lol.
anticsrocks, hi, we have to know for sure the times and spaces needed between any meds,
some will fight with one of it to get the leadership on healing one part while other are beeing shoved out to
with food intake not having time to do their jobs, some will like a still body asleep to work properly, ecetera,
and the free for all intake of them is not recommanded,
so it must be clear to the body to know the right time he will need one as oppose to the other at the same time,
there also some food and drink that will neutralyse one or enhance the other,
SO, ONE PERSON MUST BE VERY QUALIFIED TO TAKE MEDS,
HE MUST HAVE GONE TO A SPECIAL TRAINING OF LEARNING THAT, EACH SOLDIER NEED TO DO A SPECIFIC JOB IN IT’S OWN TIME AND NOT TO BE BOTHER BY ANOTHER ONE WAITING THERE DOING NOTING WAITING FOR HIM TO FINISH HIS JOB, THE LEARNING PROCESS IS THE KEY TO GAIN HARMONY AMONG ALL OF THEM KNOWING WHICH WILL ENTER FIRST OR LAST, OR WITH OR WHEN.
TAKE CARE
@ilovebeeswarzone: Thank you beezy!
anticsrocks, a good lazy rest will help, bye
Allen West…please, run for President….do it for our Country!!!! You are the man that can turn our Country back to where it should be heading…right now! Herman Cain…VP!
Julie Cain is running .Why would you dis him with a V.P. offer behind someone who isn’t running?
Herman Cain has, in fact, already said he’s not running for second place. It is not the goal of free men to become second in anything. That being said, he has not disavowed being a selection for the vice presidential slot should that be where God leads him.
Congressman West has totally ruled out a presidential run. Michele Bachmann is doing quite well. The only thing, that just sits wrong with me, is that after hearing her speak on several occasions – she seriously either needs to give up the speech writers or she needs better ones. I like her. I supported her for Congress, but the redundancy gets a bit much.
Herman, and I’m sure he won’t mind me calling him by his first name, speaks from the heart. I haven’t seen a single note card when the man gives a speech. He does not falter. He claims God is his guide and will always be ever present in his thoughts. God bless you, Mr. Cain.
@rich wheeler: My apologies Rich. I of course would want Herman Cain to be President since he is ruinning but I did not clarify that if I had it my way, I’d like to see Allen West as Pres, and Herman Cain as VP. No offense to Mr. Cain but I think West would be a better candidate. But since this is not the case, Cain all the way.
@Flashi: Yes, I’m with you all the way regarding Michelle Bachman. I like her too but she does need to work on her speaking skills. I also like Sarah Palin but I think she’s been totally torn to pieces by the media and I don’t think she has a strong chance. I do like Cain but I’m not as familiar with him. I did applaud when he challenged Clinton’s healthcare budget. He is a very sharp guy and the fact he is a Christian and not afraid to show his faith makes him my candidate. Thanks for the insight. I’ll be doing more research on Mr. Cain.
Flashi, fine , just fine, nothing to take out of this,
my my, what a pizza party we would have all together after this,
THE HERMANATER IS MARCHING, LIKE A BENEVOLENT GIANT,
FOR AMERICA THE JEWEL OF THE WORLD WHICH WILL NEVER OWN HER,
BECAUSE SHE STAND BEFORE GOD TO PROTECT HER
Seriously, not ONE person has mentioned Ron PAUL? Strict constitutionalist, christian, actual military service, delivered babies for a living, technically the “most conservative member of congress” i mean seriously whats not to like? it makes me sick that the current republican party is so pro-war that this one issue is enough to write him off. personally i would rather spend money taking care of our veterans which we are so terrible at, and oh i dunno, end a couple completely pointless wars saving us trillions….
WAKE UP AND STOP TAKING POLITICIANS AT THEIR WORD, LOOK AT THEIR RECORD! Sarah Palin can say whatever she wants, she’s a quitter, who is completely pathetic when it comes to understanding our constitution and our history. Bachmans just as bad, claiming our founding fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery (most of them had slaves!!!). Looking at their backgrounds I wouldn’t welcome either of them into my home. Every other option right now has so many problems, the current “front runner” is a mormon who just last week claimed “corporations are people.” People wake the hell up! Ron Paul is everything you are looking for! Unless of course, you want to turn America into a christian orgy and convert every single American into a Christian, which is obviously unconstitutional but also defeats the purpose of CHOOSING christ as your personal savior.
I’m just beyond disgusted that no one else seems to notice that every republican (and most democrats) running right now is OBVIOUSLY bought and paid for. NONE of them would enforce taxes on the rich, cut tax loopholes, for corporations to pay their taxes, because their buddies are paying them not to! If there was one reason to vote for Ron Paul, it would be that he’s not able to be bought! in fact, he RETURNS money every year to the treasury! he is a champion and the fact that you people are actually considering a half term governor soccer mom with an attitude, for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES literally makes me sick to my stomach. especially compared to a man with a 30 year conservative voting record that speaks for itself, a close personal friend of Ronald Reagan, a man who fights everyday to protect the constitution that not one other member of the republican party can seem to remember… its pathetic.
@kyle: You said:
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. She is up on her American history, and understands the Constitution completely.
@kyle:
A couple of questions Kyle”
1) In your posts you express an affinity for the Constitution yet you mention Romney’s religion. Would you explain why that matters in terms of his candidacy for president?
2) In his question and answer session in Iowa, Romney stated that “corporations are people”. You seem to disagree. Is it your contention that the law does not view corporations as essentially the same as people?
@Aye: Hi aye, thanks for being cordial in your response. Firstly about Romneys religion: I PERSONALLY have no problem with him being Mormon, and though I’m no fan of Mormonism I was mostly expressing surprise that so many Christians don’t seem to mind. Most Christians I know don’t even consider Mormonism a form of Christianity. But to answer your question, I have no problem with him being Mormon, I have a problem with the fact that he is OBVIOUSLY bought and in the pocket of the wealthy. Again to bring up Ron Paul, look at where his contributions come from, and then look at where Romneys are coming from (Ron Paul received more money from our military men and women than ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES COMBINED!). That’s sayin something. About his comment that corporations are people, I certainly have a problem with that. Yes, I understand that legally, corporations count as people in certain contexts. But Laws change, and often because they don’t match reality. Remember when we had laws that said a black man was worth 3/5ths of a white man? it changed because it didn’t match reality.
@ anticsrocks: im dismissing your comment because I cannot argue or discuss an issue with someone who would honestly argue in favor of Sarah Palins credentials. if Sarah Palin could be president, I could be president. But i have the good sense to know not to run for an office that I know im not prepared for in any way and would probably hurt a lot of people due to my ineptitude.
@anticsrocks: i will say one thing though (beyond what i said in the last comment) at least sarah palin can admit when she’s wrong sometimes. this is my favorite
“We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn’t that ironic?” –Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada’s single-payer health care system, despite having demonized such government-run programs as socialized medicine that will lead to death-panel-like rationing, March 6, 2010
If you’d care to back up your claim that “i dont know what im talking about” please find me one instance where she demonstrated some knowledge.
and in reference to the constitution, here’s a perfect example of the difference between a politician who stands for nothing and knows nothing of our constitution, and one who stands for liberty and knows what he’s talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loS-Wdfaa7k
@kyle: Okay, you are a Paulbot, I get where you are coming from now.
First of all, let me educate you. Your claim that she partook in Canada’s socialized medicine is flat out wrong, and a typical liberal moonbat talking point to boot.
Then you said:
Okay.
Remember this?
Or maybe this:
Or how about this time where she got it right:
Then there is this one, where she was spot on about blood libel:
Death panels? She took a lot of heat for that comment, but once again, she got it right…
So there ya go, kyle. Any other requests?
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@kyle: You also said:
So we ought to pay attention to Ron Paul’s record of inserting pork, then voting against the bills he puts the pork into?
Or should we pay attention to him when he says that Iran ought to have a nuclear weapon because everyone else has one?
Anticsrocks – awesome examples of Palin knowing what she is talking about!
As for Kyle’s comment: “anticsrocks: im dismissing your comment because I cannot argue or discuss an issue with someone who would honestly argue in favor of Sarah Palins credentials. if Sarah Palin could be president, I could be president. But i have the good sense to know not to run for an office that I know im not prepared for in any way and would probably hurt a lot of people due to my ineptitude.”
So Kyle, you’re actually comparing yourself to Sarah Palin? When was the last time you served as Governor of any State? When, exactly, did you take on those huge administrative responsibilities in your life? And, by the way, Palin had very good approval ratings from the people of Alaska, while she was Governor of Alaska. When did you personally take on the big oil companies in Alaska, who were refusing to drill, like Sarah Palin did, to get the oil flowing for the good of Alaska, for jobs and the people in Alaska, and for the energy needs our entire country? When did you last have the guts to fight members of your own Republican party, the “good ole boys” in her own party who were standing in the way of good effective government, like Sarah Palin did, as Governor? When did you last finance and finish a multi-million dollar oil pipeline project in Alaska, to get the oil flowing from Alaska to the mainland, like Palin did? When, exactly, did you personally take on and finish any multi-million dollar project, Kyle? And as far as her resigning as Governor of Alaska, you obviously no NOTHING about her reasons for doing so, nor have you taken the time or effort to learn. It’s real easy and simple-minded to call someone a quitter, when you simply DON’T KNOW the facts or reasons behind her resignation. You need to educate yourself a little on the facts, before you spout off.
Ron Paul is a complete isolationist who would like the United States to simply ignore the problems of the world. The US has tried doing that a number of times in its history, and that isolationist stance has always ended in disaster for the world. Millions of Jews died in Europe under Hitler, and millions of other Europeans were murdered, while we stood on the sidelines, deciding whether or not to get involved. Ron Paul is a naive nut job who does not think Iran’s nuclear weapons aspirations are a serious threat to the region. No matter to Paul that Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the face of earth. I supposed you think the fate of our only real Democratic ally in the Middle East is unimportant and inconsequential. Ron Paul certainly thinks Israel is inconsequential. Israel is a crucial lynchpin in the Middle East, and a crucial lynchpin to the world. Once Israel is destroyed, Iran will then move in to mow down Europe. The United States, the “Great Satan, will be Iran’s next target. Our world is far too small for Paul’s naive isolationism.
@Leslie:
Ron Paul is willfully ignorant of the goals of Iran.
Ahmadinejad speaking behind poster:
http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/wp-content/uploads/woziontop26ch.jpg
Close up of poster:
http://www.jtf.org/america/nnn.10262005.muslim.terror.iran.mahmound.ahmadinejad.poster.closeup.200.jpg
Whole poster:
http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/wp-content/uploads/wozion21.jpg
Somehow I just knew that kyle wouldn’t have the cajones to come back after my posts, #155 and 156…
haha wow nice reverse psychology anticsrocks, you really got me there. nope i just read your post, began constructing a well thought out reply, was doing some research to refute your claims, then decided you really weren’t worth my time or effort. you vote for who you want to vote for, we live in a democracy. just a reminder though, this is who you are defending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaSECfQqty8 and from fox http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BXMv64EfU&feature=grec_index. my favorite thing about her is how she tries to answers questions she obviously doesn’t know, reminds me of a 5 year old getting caught lying
and yeah she was full of shit answering the revere question, and just got lucky enough that she could come up with a bullshit story later attempting to explain her mistake. ps maybe i missed it but i asked you to give an example of her knowledge of the constitution
this is who im voting for. and i know ill be able to sleep at night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3BbIPbLSRw
paul isn’t ignorant of iran, he’s been around since we started invading the middle east. every person who’s commented so far obviously needs to do some basic reading on how war propaganda works, your government could tell you anyone was a threat and you’d love to go to war. i suggest you start with 1984 for an elementary lesson in this. why is iran a threat in the first place? they dont hate us for any reason other than that we’ve been messing around in the middle east for so long. if we had a foreign army in our country or our borders we’d be getting pissed too, what goes around comes around.
lastly, you all need to understand the system you are living in. the left leans toward communism and socialism, the right leans toward fascism, but its all part of one form of government: collectivism. if you honestly want to learn something that could change your life, watch this, the first 20 minutes will change your entire life, and convince you that the democrats and republicans are in fact the same party, doesnt matter how you vote, nothing much changes. im voting for paul because he isn’t either, he’s an individualist who’s forced to run as a republican, otherwise he wouldnt have a shot at winning as a third party candidate. this video isn’t about paul, its about our form of government. watch it or dont, i dont care, i wont be commenting again or get your reply, ive said my piece http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAdu0N1-tvU&feature=related
@kyle: You said:
Um, nope. You can’t even quote yourself correctly…
As for Iran, you claim:
Gee, maybe I missed it, but what military presence do we have inside Iran’s borders?
I would almost imagine seeing the word “kyle” when looking up “mindless drone” in the dictionary. You go ahead and lick at the boots of Ron Paul. He is spot on when it comes to fiscal policy, but he would make a disastrous, inept, dangerous president RE foreign policy.
Yeah, Iran is only mad at us because we are inside the middle east… What a naive, ignorant stance to take on this issue.
Here, let me educate you a bit, although I doubt you will take the time to read it.
But tell you what, you go ahead and listen to your prophet, Ronnie and let him convince you it is because the mean old United States has soldiers in Saudi Arabia.
lol, I would suggest a college course on critical thinking, kyle.
@kyle: You said:
Not quite. I just said that I didn’t expect you to reply. Were I to have used reverse psychology I would have said that I was glad you hadn’t replied.
I will say one thing for you, though. You are consistent – consistently wrong that is.
To think that any one man or woman would have all the expertise and knowledge needed to run a country the size of the United States, is ludicrous. Kyle says if Palin can be President so could he. Well, so could I.
I have enough intelligence to know that I don’t know all the answers if I know any of them.
What I would do, is to surround myself with the brightest minds in the US and then make a decision based on common sense and the security of our country. There are no job prerequisites for the office of President, but there are plenty of experts (in every area) that the president can look to for advice prior to making decisions.
PS. I watched the Restoring Courage rally in Israel. Herman Cain was the only candidate shown as attending. Go Herman!
Hey kyle – this was posted by Nan on another FA thread. I thought you might find it interesting…
‘Nuff said.