18 Oct

Imam Rauf, Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar: the truth is offensive [Reader Post]

The truth is offensive. It’s the new liberal dementia.

Marwan al-Shehhi
Fayez Banihammad
Mohand al-Shehri
Hamza al-Ghamdi
Ahmed al-Ghamdi
Hani Hanjour
Khalid al-Mihdhar
Majed Moqed
Nawaf al-Hazmi
Salem al-Hazmi
Ziad Jarrah
Ahmed al-Haznawi
Ahmed al-Nami
Saeed al-Ghamdi
Mohamed Atta
Waleed al-Shehri
Wail al-Shehri
Abdulaziz al-Omari
Satam al-Suqami

The above have one thing in common, and it is indisputable.

For the purpose of promoting his new book, Bill O’Reilly appeared on The View recently. Predictably, the visit got heated, especially as regards the Ground Zero Mosque. When O’Reilly made the statement “Muslims killed us On 9/11″ the two biggest idiots on the show walked out.

“That is such bullsh*t,” Goldberg exclaimed in the midst of a cacophony of back-and-forth yelling.

As though O’Reilly told a lie.

Goldberg immediately resorted to usual braindead liberal canard:

Goldberg shouted “What religion was Mr. McVeigh? [referring to Timothy McVeigh, the convicted American-born terrorist who blew up the Oklahoma City Building in 1995] Mr. McVeigh was an Extremist as well and he killed people,” before she and Behar walked off the set in protest.

McVeigh was really more like Obama mentor Bill Ayers and his Weathermen than anything else, and he did not kill anyone in the name of God or Allah, as did the 9-11 participants. Those subtleties are lost on Behar and Goldberg, but then that is often the case. In fact, the bottom line of Osama Bin Laden’s letter to the American people as to why he masterminded the 9-11 attacks is simple-

“Allah made me do it.”

Everybody’s favorite Ground Zero Imam Faisal Rauf took advantage of the opportunity to insist that water isn’t wet.

“Bill O’Reilly’s remarks about Islam on The View were not helpful to the cause of mutual trust and understanding and only served to further fuel an irrational fear of Islam,” says Rauf. “We all have a right to express our opinions. But we also have a responsibility to do so in a civil and respectful fashion.”

So we’re all entitled to our freedom of speech, except when it offends Muslims. Or Whoopi Goldberg.

Rauf goes on to make things even more clear:

He adds, “If future generations are to live in a safe and peaceful world, we must break the cycle of misunderstanding and mistrust that encourages extremism here and around the world. Mr. O’Reilly’s uninformed comments were offensive, not only to his interviewers, but also to millions of American Muslims.”

So there it is. We must choose between the truth and peace. If truth offends, then it must be sacrificed. And we here in the US must avoid doing anything that pisses off Islam and leads to “extremism.” Even if it means sacrificing our freedoms.

There’s a word to describe that. Dhimmitude.

There is some other mistrust and misunderstanding that I’d like to see Rauf address:

Islamists say the Koran is destined to rule America. In fact, the Muslim takeover of the White House is not just an unfolding action plan but a directive from Muhammad himself.

In an interview Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” British radical Muslim activist Anjem Choudary made clear what he and his Islamist brothers have planned for the West. “We do believe, as Muslims, the East and the West will one day be governed by the Shariah,” he said. “Indeed, we believe that one day, the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.” He then quoted a hadith, or saying of Muhammad, as related by 10th-century Muslim scholar Al-Tabarani, that “the final hour will not come until Muslims conquer the White House.” Another version of the saying goes, “A small portion of Muslims will rise and conquer the White House.”

And of course

“You can’t say that Islam is a religion of peace,” Choudary told CBN News. “Because Islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission. So the Muslim is one who submits. There is a place for violence in Islam. There is a place for jihad in Islam.”

Rauf never seems to have time to call on Choudary and those of his ilk for that man-to-man talk about fostering mistrust and misunderstanding.

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56 Responses to Imam Rauf, Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar: the truth is offensive [Reader Post]

  1. Aye says: 51

    For example, Timothy McVeigh’s motivation for blowing up the OKC Federal Building and killing adults and children? He was trying to jump start the apocalypse hoping to bring Jesus’ reign on earth. He would say, “Jesus told me to, not Allah.”

    That was not at all what McVeigh’s motivation was.

    His motivation was strictly political.

    Did you find that misinformation printed somewhere or did you just make it up?

    And that hadith said by Tabarani, I can’t find that hadith in any of his books of hadith.

    Since al-Tabarani lived, and wrote, during the 10th century and the White House was not constructed until the 18th century….chances are you won’t be finding any references to the White House or the US in the writings of Tabarani.

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  2. anticsrocks says: 52

    @AliGail: You said:

    For example, Timothy McVeigh’s motivation for blowing up the OKC Federal Building and killing adults and children? He was trying to jump start the apocalypse hoping to bring Jesus’ reign on earth. He would say, “Jesus told me to, not Allah.”

    As Aye pointed out, you are wrong about this. In McVeigh’s own words from a letter he wrote explaining his reasons he bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, OK.:

    I chose to bomb a federal building because such an action served more purposes than other options. Foremost, the bombing was a retaliatory strike; a counter attack, for the cumulative raids (and subsequent violence and damage) that federal agents had participated in over the preceding years (including, but not limited to, Waco.) From the formation of such units as the FBI’s “Hostage Rescue” and other assault teams amongst federal agencies during the ’80′s; culminating in the Waco incident, federal actions grew increasingly militaristic and violent, to the point where at Waco, our government – like the Chinese – was deploying tanks against its own citizens. – Source

    You further said:

    Or Imam Rauf. He was interviewed to comment on 9/11 and the paper chose to print the quote of the Christian and the Jew but not Rauf.

    He said on CBS News, with Ed Bradley that America was an accessory to 9/11 and he also refuses to distance himself from Hamas. He also refuses to label them as a terrorist organization.

    Islam may be practiced in a peaceful way by the vast majority of Muslims, but when phrases like the following are in the Koran, one must ask how it can be a religion based on peace:

    O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide people who are unjust. (Quran 5:51)

    or

    Slay them wherever you find them…Idolatry is worse than carnage…Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God’s religion reigns supreme.” (Surah 2:190-)

    or

    Seek out your enemies relentlessly.” (Surah 4:103-)

    or

    …make war on the leaders of unbelief…Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them…” (Surah 9:12-)

    or

    “Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]…until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.” (Surah 9:27-)

    I could go on and on, but it is evident that Islam was not founded on peace. If it is so peaceful, why does the Koran instruct Muslims to kill the infidels? Seek out your enemies relentlessly? Make war on the leader of unbelief?

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  3. Patvann says: 53

    Rauf has a good point that information needs to be regulated and used in a way so that we do not blacken any issue unjustly.

    I was gonna be “nice” but rarely am I in the mood anymore…

    So in response to both you and Rauf, in regards to the single most important Amendment to our Constitution:

    Fuck off, and have a happy submission. Freedom is obviously wasted on you.

    Just to bring your ignorant ass up to speed as to how you are to be treated by your gutter-religion, study these quotes carefully:

    Tabari IX:113
    “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

    Tabari I:280
    “Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’ Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid.”

    Qur’an 4:3
    “If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with orphans, marry women of your choice who seem good to you, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to do justice (to so many), then only one, or (a slave) that you possess, that will be more suitable. And give the women their dower as a free gift; but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, eat it with enjoyment, take it with right good cheer and absorb it (in your wealth).”

    Qur’an 4:11
    “Allah directs you in regard of your Children’s (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah.”

    Bukhari:V1B22N28
    “The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.’ When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.’”

    Muslim:B1N142
    “‘O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.’ A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah’s Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.’ Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.’”

    Qur’an 2:282
    “And get two witnesses out of your own men. And if there are not two men (available), then a man and two women [a man is worth two women, and one man is always needed], such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs, the other can remind her.”

    Qur’an 4:43
    “Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.”

    Bukhari:V4B55N547
    “The Prophet said, ‘But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.’”

    Qur’an 33:59
    “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

    Qur’an 4:15
    “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them.”

    Bukhari:V4B52N143
    “When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed, so Allah’s Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.’”

    Bukhari:V5B59N524
    “The Muslims said among themselves, ‘Will Safiyah be one of the Prophet’s wives or just a lady captive and one of his possessions?’

    Ishaq:593
    “From the captives of Hunayn, Allah’s Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another.”

    Bukhari:V3B48N826
    “The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’”

    Ishaq:584
    “Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman.”

    Ishaq:185
    “In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards.”

    Qur’an 24:31
    “Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty except what (must) appear; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display them except to their husbands…”

    Qur’an 24:34
    “Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here's the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”

    Ishaq:469 “The Apostle said, ‘Every wailing woman lies except those who wept for Sa’d.’”

    Ishaq:496
    “Ali [Muhammad's adopted son, son-in-law, and future Caliph] said, ‘Prophet, women are plentiful. You can get a replacement, easily changing one for another.’”

    Ishaq:496
    “Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.’ So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, ‘Tell the Apostle the truth.’”

    Qur’an 24:1
    “(This is) a surah which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful. For the woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah. And let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.”

    Qur’an 24:6
    “And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by Allah that he is the one speaking the truth.”

    Oh…Before you ever TRY to respond with the typical: “But those are out of context!”, try to remember that I don’t really give a damn about the level of your stupidity.

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  4. Skookum says: 54

    So AliGail, were you overcome with the beauty of the religion of peace and its respect for women or did you fall for a Muslim man?

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  5. Nan G says: 55

    You need to keep looking if you can’t find it right away.
    It is there:

    “The Final Hour will not come until the Muslims Counquer the White House” [Tabarani]

    “A small portion of Muslims will rise and conquer the White House.” [Musnad al-Imaam Ahmad]

    “The Islamic religion will continue until the Hour has been established, or you have been ruled over by 12 Caliphs, all of them being from the Quraysh. also heard him say: A small force of the Muslims will capture the White Palace (Bayt al-Abyar – lit: ‘white house’); the police of the Persian Emperor or his descendants. I also heard him say: Before the Day of Judgment there will appear (a number of) impostors.” [Sahih Muslim]

    Oh, and Timothy McV went to his death an agnostic, just as he lived his life.
    He allowed ”last rites” to be given him ”just in case,” but that certainly doesn’t make it likely he was motivated by a religious belief.

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  6. WHAT IS NEEDED IS MORE THAN VIGILANCE: IT IS ALREADY TOO FAR TO LET IT HAPPEN,
    WITH SMOOD TALKS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, AND AMERICA

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