More Deaths In Afghanistan Under Obama Than Under 8 Years Of Bush

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(h/t Gateway Pundit)

The utter hypocrisy in our media and on the left is on display with the above graph.

The United States has now lost more military men and women in Afghanistan under President Obama than during 8 years of the Bush Administration.

We couldn’t go a day without frontpage headlines emblazoned across every paper and on every nightly newscast about the death toll in Iraq. Each new report vilifying Bush.

Now?

Not so much blame for our current President.

Hmmmmm, I wonder why?

Proof at Say Anything:

A couple of years ago, every casualty in Iraq was front page news. Tallies of casualties could be seen on the front pages of newspapers, commentators would slowly recite the names of the fallen, even Doonesbury would print a list in the Sunday comics. It was Bush’s war then, and people needed to see just how heartless he was wasting the precious lives of our service men and women over there!

Where is Code Pink? Where are the Cindy Sheehans of the Left? Why is no one camped out on the road to Martha’s Vineyard, or his Hawaiian vacation villa, or the many golf courses he frequents? Is it that there are just too many of them? Or was it never really about the deaths of soldiers for the Left? Was it all just a crass excuse to try to gain and retain political power for themselves and their cronies by playing on our sympathies?

Hopey-Changey got elected and now the death count ain’t all that big a deal.

Ridiculous hypocrisy.

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O.T.#39 THANKS so much for your kind invitation. Montana truly sounds like “God’s country”.
I’ll give you a heads up if we can get away.My wife is a para-legal and she gets worked really hard.She’s a South American gal who truly appreciates the greatness of the U.S.A..Ofcourse you are always welcome here in San Clemente,a beautiful S.Cal,Marine Corps friendly,”Spanish Village by the Sea.” Expect to see Patvann and his returning hero in Nov.

Another Vet Thank you for your service. Pls keep an open mind about Vets who voted for our current POTUS(44% according to Greg). I assure you our patriotism runs deep.When you can,ck.out record of Sen. Jim Webb (D.Va.),Marine infantry platoon commander who I served with in V.N. He’s a Navy Cross recip. and a great supporter of our military.

Welcome Home Semper Fi

Smorg/Beez

I hate to break it to you guys, but “welcome to the internet”. 😀

You will have to come to accept that anything you write, on any almost EVERY blog or site stores some information.

-It isn’t just Google, and it is, IN-FACT the way the web works. Literally.

If it didn’t, the web COULDN’T work. It “looks” for words, and does not care who wrote them.

Take a breath…

What the “world” sees is ONLY what you write. Some sites (NOT THIS ONE!!!!), will sell your personal information for a small amount of money for each person.

That information is what we used to initially “log into” Flopping Aces. BUT ONLY CURT AND THE MODS HAVE ACCESS, and even then Curt has final-say over what THEY can do with the information on the server. Google and the other search engines do NOT have this information, unless you published it yourself on a public blog or a site.

And I think we can all agree that we trust Curt with our “virtual” lives, if not our actual ones.

-I know I do.

So what is this information that Curt has? (Please correct me if I’m wrong)

Your E-mail address. And only the one you gave him. (More on that later.)
The address your computer has in order for other computers to talk to it, and it to them.

(In the old days of the net, we only could use these “address-numbers” and not the “http+site-name” short-cut like we do now. The address of each computer and site connected to the net still looks kinda like: 123.4.5.678 or some variation of that, but we rarely see it.)

Curt may or may not even have your real name, if your real e-mail does not have your real name in it! (Like mine does not)

This is the new “normal” and as long as you remember a few things, I think you can get more comfortable. I hope.

Number one:
This is Curt’s site, so trust him.

2. DON’T EVER type your e-mail when registering at a site, unless you are assured that the policy of the site-owner is to respect your privacy. 99.999% of sites do NOT sell your info, because they know damn well that if they do, they would be out of business soon.

2.5 It goes without saying, that you should NEVER post your home-address, or phone number in a comment section of ANY site.

3.If you are like me, I register at a LOT of websites. (I have over 1000 “favorites”)
In this case, set up a separate e-mail account on any provider you want (like Hotmail), and register that address, when you need to. That way any “spam” will go there, and not to your “real” one.

4. Install a good Anti-virus. Free AVG is the best there is. Norton sux. NEVER accept an offer to: “Scan Your Computer For Free!”. They are always used to install bad stuff into your machine.

5. Stay away from the free-backgrounds, games, porn, illegal music and video-download sites. They LOVE tracking and selling your info.

6. Adjust your computer’s privacy settings in the “Internet Option” window to a “Very High” protection-level. This will limit the amount of info your computer will share about itself, and what kind of “Cookies” your computer will accept.

7. “Cookies” are not all bad. The FloppingAces site has a bunch, and they are little “mini-programs” temporarily installed on your computer when you first looked at the page, and they let the page load faster the next time you visit… (although it’s still kinda slow, Curt. :-)).
Think of them as “Helper-Cookies”.

8. The “Tracking-Cookies” are the other kind that some sites will place. They use them to watch to see what kind of other sites you go to. You don’t want those. They end up trying to sell you stoopid stuff like boxcars of Viagra, and slowing down your “internet experience”, because they are “reporting” back to the site that installed it.

Setting the “Internet Option” privcy settings higher, and having AVG, will stop that, or at least minimize it.

9, If you have Facebook, review your privacy settings, and set them all to “Only Friends”, or at least “Friends of Friends”.

10. Realize that everything you say on the net, is like yelling it in a crowded theater, so act accordingly…
You better be able to comfortably have your Mom Google you and not have a heart-attack because she found your weird comment on “Horse sex dot com”, when she searched her spoiled-boy’s name. Speaking of which…

10.5. Don’t use your real name as a “handle” when making comments. Yea, I use most of my name, but I’m OK with it. Everybody in my circle of friends and relatives already know me for what I am, and the rest I don’t really give a s**t about.*

That way, only your “internet friends” recognize you, and not your next-door neighbor, who only knows you as that nice man, Steve Jones, and not “Horselover12” who likes whips.
(Or get cured and live no lies.)

11. Relax, and be safe out there. 🙂

(Google or Bing any of our commenter’s “handles” if ya wanna have some fun!)

*I’ll bet a few relatives-of-relatives would rather read me, then listen to me, cuz then then can turn me off, and thereby “win” the discussion going on in their heads. 😉

@Patvann: #52 I trust Curt completely. I already knew most of the stuff you explained, but it’s always good to have a refresher course.

What I was talking about was our search history. The sights that we go to. Google keeps track of the web sights you go to. It doesn’t really matter to me that Google knows that I go almost exclusively to conservative web sights, but why do they want to keep that information?

I use the ones that guarantee they do not keep my search history. I only use Google if I can’t find the information I am looking for on the others, which very seldom happens.

Having a Mac I don’t have to worry about viruses, unless I would use Windows on it, but I don’t have Windows and don’t want it.

The way I understand Facebook, every time it updates, it resets the privacy settings to “Everyone” unless the new changes they made fixes that.

I know what you mean about the free stuff. I have people forward me stuff like that and I always wonder if there is a virus in it. As you know, just opening up an attachment like that can download anything the programmer wants to into your computer. Since I have a Mac I don’t have to worry about that if I open an attachment. If I want to forward it to others I copy-and-paste it into a new message. That way, if there is a virus, it doesn’t go into the forwarded message.

One program I suggest to everyone is McAfee Site Advisor at:

http://www.siteadvisor.com/securesearch/

It checks web sites on a regular basis and lets you know if you go to a dangerous one. Once-in-a-while it has let me know I am at a dangerous sight and I should get off of it. It works on Windows and Firefox, but not Safari yet.

@ proof, #42: “If the war was immoral under Bush, how is it any less immoral under Obama?”

I don’t personally use the word “immoral” with regard to the intentions that got us into Iraq. I think “misguided” or “ill-considered” are more accurate. A lot of people think war in general is an immoral undertaking. I agree, in a purely abstract, philosophical way, but recognize the world for what it is. For me, the question of the rightness of any war is a moral calculation concerning lesser evils.

Iraq war protests fell off when perception shifted. People looked on the Bush administration as being pro-Iraq War, and the one that got us there. They looked on the Obama administration as one that wanted to get us out, and were supportive because of that. Had American combat involvement escalated that would have changed, and war protesters would have redirected their anger and been back on the streets.

As has been noted earlier in the thread, a lot of democrats have always felt differently about Afghanistan than they have about Iraq. Afghanistan always seemed like a fully warranted response to something someone else started. The element of clear and present danger was highly specific, and had already been demonstrated not just to be a matter of someone’s opinion.

@ Smorgasbord, #53:

An observation regarding computer security that might be of general interest… I checked my Norton security log about a week ago and noticed blocked attempts to access an unused port on my machine at intervals of every 4-5 minutes. This seemed to have been going on for as far back as the record ran. I got curious and ran quick traces on several of the recurring IP numbers associated with the attempts. A couple were anonymous machines located in the People’s Republic of China; another was in Seoul, South Korea.

Keep that security software up to date and running, folks. Somebody is always out there, quietly looking for unlocked doors and windows. I’m sure it’s some sort of nefarious automated hacking software, constantly scanning the entire net for exploitable vulnerabilities.

Sookum,

Your welcome. This is a good site with some interesting info and links.

Rich Wheeler,

I realize not all supporters of the Democratic Party are flaming anti-American, but there is a BIG difference between a Jim Webb whom I respect and who although he was against the war, didn’t go out there and try to undermine the mission like Teddy, Kerry, and DICK Durbin. As for the current President, he lost my respect when he posed for photo ops with the caskets at Dover last year. The first comments the administration made when they released the pictures was that President Bush never met with the families which was a blatant lie and makes one wonder why make the statement to begin with. To me they used the caskets for political gain which is disgusting, not just as a Commander-in-Chief but as a person as well. I don’t believe he apologized for the statements or had them retracted, so he must have agreed with them being made.

Thanks for your service as well. You guys served your country well and deserved far better.

Curt,

I figured I was just rehashing some old arguments. Thanks for the links.

I don’t personally use the word “immoral” with regard to the intentions that got us into Iraq. I think “misguided” or “ill-considered” are more accurate.

Greg: More sleight of hand. Perhaps you didn’t consider the war immoral, but many, if not most of the anti-war demonstrators indicated that they did.

So where are they? I know why you’re not sitting outside Martha’s Vineyard, but what about the rest? (Crickets chirp)

Aaother Vet Bush like all Pres. before and since met with families of our deceased.Noone of rank in this current Admin. or any other would suggest otherwise.Obama saluting the returning caskets was no more a photo OP. than the myriad of times he and other Pres. have been photographed honoring our troops.All Pres. in my lifetime have honored our troops To suggest Obama and Michelle are somehow different is simply not true.

Semper Fi

Rich,

The big issue I had with it was why make the comment that Bush never met with the families? If the sole intent was to pay respects to our fallen and their families, the comment would have never been made. Had they taken the pictures and not made the comment I wouldn’t feel that way.

@Mr. Wheeler

To suggest Obama and Michelle are somehow different is simply not true.

Then please explain why Obama’s DOJ is signing waivers to byass the MOVE(Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment) Act, disenfranchising our troops overseas who happen to live in one of the states that obtained the waiver.

Please explain why Obama snubbed the Medal of Honor Inauguration Ball. The first in 56 years to do so.

Please explain why Obama used our troops overseas as a political football in his vote to discontinue funding back in 2007.

Please explain why Obama wished to force veterans to pay for their own health insurance. And no, this doesn’t mean I agree with paying for everyone’s health insurance, but veterans, particularly those wounded, deserve some payback for the sacrifices they have made for our country.

Please explain why Obama’s head of the DHS put out a memo placing American veteran’s on terrorist watch lists, while his DOJ cannot be bothered with calling our current enemies Islamic Extremists.

Now, this list doesn’t necessarily mean that Obama is completely against our troops and veterans, but it does raise some interesting questions as to just where Obama’s loyalty lies regarding the military.

PATVANN: thank you, for the lesson,very informative, I only come here at FA, onless the
GROUP here leave some links, and I go to read of the subject and sometimes look at others
STORYs that touch my interest, YES I trust CURT, IT’s GOOGLE that spread my comments,
I didnt know and the fact that they associate others some are more than one mix together, it
make my name and words mean diffrent, so I realy did not like what I saw there at all.
it was unexpected , there you are with those stranger to the source of your comment which take a completly diffrent meaning,
I appreciate your info, AS I understood some of it, I’LL study the rest to catch it later,
bye 😉

@ Old Trooper 2

Enjoy the Air Force hospitality OT. No one does it better. I never could figure out why I was paid $145 a month to stay on the airplane and they only paid you guys $85 to jump out. I’m thinking I got a better deal.

@Rich-59

I beg to differ.

Obama has none very little in regards to personally visiting with the injured, and especially remiss in his dealings with the families of the fallen. They now get boilerplate condolences, not the hand written ones Bush sent. I know this as personal fact.

His staged “salute” to the warrior at Dover was a midnight rush job, and only ONE out of the 18 families allowed President Narcissist to use a photo of their son’s casket as a prop. He has never met one-on-one with a family of a fallen-one, and you can count the number of (opportune) times he’s visited with the injured, on one hand. (4 times, is the correct answer.)

In all fairness, he has invited a dozen or so injured to the White House.

He was no Bush, and he was no Cheney: Bush wept with Cindy Sheehan.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/10/obama-salutes-dead-soldiers-return-to-us-but-wont-send-reinforcements/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/dec/22/bush-cheney-comforted-troops-privately/print/

BUS load of SEU are going to ARIZONA to protest the law that will be in effect shortly.

GREG: hi, On your 56, I think IT’s very IMPORTANT,to know. THANK you. bye

Patvann on your 67,

That backs up what I heard from someone who was a Casualty Assistance Officer for one of the families at Dover that day.

John Galt Where do YOU suggest Obama’s loyalty lies re. the military?
another vet No one in Obama admin ever said Bush didn’t meet fallen soldier’s families. That would be as stupid as saying Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii.
Pat Didn’t Obama meet with a Sergeant’s family at Dover?I’m sure he and Michelle will meet with many fallen and wounded’s families before this war is over.

@Curt: #55 We have quite a few WMD in Congress we need to dispose of.

@Rich

Yes. He managed to show up on short notice, thus disrupting the solemn methodology of the transfer, stand and salute all 18 vessels as they were unsecured and brought down the ramp, take all the photos, have his people ask each family for permission to use the photo, (get turned down from 17 of them), as well as then ask if they wanted to meet him, whereby he met 14 families…

All that in two hours…Those must have been some deep and heartfelt conversations he packed into that maybe 40 minutes or so he had left over for them…at 3 minutes a piece.

Gibbs did say however, that Obama said nothing and that he was quite “reflective” on the drive back to the White House, so I’m gonna go ahead and assume he felt something..

The trip came the same day after Mr. Obama signed a military spending bill, which he said: “(r)eaffirms our commitment to our brave men and women in uniform and our wounded warriors.”

Three days earlier, he spoke to sailors and Marines in Florida, where he defended himself against critics who suggest he is taking too long to announce a strategy for Afghanistan…

…which he was.

And I’m VERY sure when he has the opportunity to use the deaths of our warriors to gain political points, he will visit them again as much as necessary, before this war is over.

@Greg: #56 Windows has been one of the least secure operating systems for many years. Unless they changed it with their latest version, they are still using the older technology. They never completely redo their operating system. They just keep patching it. All of the other systems use newer higher secure technology.

I notices sometimes when I would have a software update notice on my Mac that it would have 70-80 MB for the system. I asked a Mac tech about why it had so many MBs and he said that Apple and ALL of the other operating systems redo their systems often and include the patches that have been issued. This makes it a new operating system and it makes it run smoother.

Windows just keeps putting patches on. How many patches can you put on a tire before it just blows up?

There are a lot more secure browsers you can use instead of Internet Explorer, or whatever it is called now. Firefox is taking a huge share of the market and is much more secure than IE. That is the one I use instead of Apple’s Safari. Opera is another one, but I don’t know anything about it. Linux has been rated as one of the most secure and trouble free systems, and it is free. It has all the stuff that the others charge hundreds of dollars for. I don’t know how he made money from it, but he did until he went to jail for killing his wife. Others took it over. I forget which country it was but they switched to Linux for their government computers.

Shortly after Linux came out, a Microsoft executive was being interviewed about it. One reporter asked him if he was sure of the pronunciation and he said he was and that they researched it. The reporters knew that it is pronounced (Lenex).

No matter which browser you use it is a good idea to have a second one just in case. Remember when Microsoft warned people not to use the browser until they downloaded the patch? Browser do go down sometimes too.

Just for the record, I like how Apple names their programs in a way that the name gives you a good idea what it is, and their icons for the programs are the same way. They have won awards for them.

@johngalt: #61 The King-in-Chief also missed the Boy Scout Jamboree that other presidents attended for many years. I guess it would have been hard on him being around all of those kids being taught:

On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

He would have a problem with those.

Then there are the other irritants:

A Scout is:
Trustworthy
Loyal
Helpful
Friendly
Courteous
Kind
Obedient
Cheerful
Thrifty
Brave
Clean
Reverent

Good luck on getting him to do those.

@Curt: #65 I didn’t know FA was operating slow. I use Firefox on a Mac and it works fine. I ain’t bragging, just letting you know.

Gates Sees 2-3 Years of Combat in Afghanistan

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704855104575469770302547514.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

On Friday he said a move to a counterterrorism strategy would simply result in pushing insurgents from one place to another as in an arcade game of “whack-a-mole.”
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I can easily describe the current strategy as “whack a mole” as the Afghan Forces have not been
“stood Up” in numbers yet and the CIC sent about 60, 000 too few “shooters” in his last decision
to reinforce. A “Surge” it ain’t and “knee jerk” political decisions that fall short of success are not going to get the job done with a harmonious outcome. You can bet your boots, saddle and kit on it.

You heard it from me first.

OLD TROOPER 2: I was reading also that 5 where kill by EIDS, AGAIN and AGAIN
I’m wondering if there is new ways ,or gadgets or telesenser as to
LOCATE thoses and destroy them before a soldier or their vehicules walk on it,
ALL the time spend there should have produce a better managing those explosifs
AT ALL COST but not of our OWNS. WE must pressure those who are responsible to
PROVIDE the research and the right tools to stop those lost of life and injurys to EIDS.

@Smorg

FA isn’t running any slower than other sites with lots of graphics…I’m just whining because it “funner” to blame him for my lack of a graphics card in my old-ish machine. 😀 (I don’t do gaming, so the wiz-bang graphic-accelerators are bought and used on my kid’s machines.)

And a “heads-up”…Macs are JUST AS susceptible to viruses as PC, except for the fact that almost all the viruses are written to attack PC’s, because there are so many more of them in the field.

The new Windows 7, is based on a totally different platform than the past XP-based version, and it’s a LOT better, faster, and smaller OS. My brother does a lot of Beta work for them and Apple, and he’s “diggin” this new one. He hated Vista with a passion.

@ ilovebeeswarzone, the “secret” to defeating IEDs is patrol, patrol and more patrol.

They can’t place them if you have patrols out to shoot the SOBs before they can place them.
Hence “Boots on the Ground” in sufficient numbers to catch them in the act. Without sufficient
troopers out to catch them, the mischief and mayhem continues.

@ Aqua, the Army only bought me a “one way ticket” and no “frequent flyer miles”

My thanks to the Air Force for dropping supplies and furnishing A-10 support when requested.

Smorgasbord: that’s a good code to live by, I am going to give it a go. Thanks.

@Patvann: I’m not a gamer either. I have only what came with the computer.

For several years I have asked the Mac sales people and techs if I need virus protection for my Mac and they keep telling me there aren’t any viruses written for a Mac yet. The last I knew Apple had 20% of the computer market, but that was several years ago.

The reason I tried a Mac is I got tired of Windows crashing like it is known to do. I have heard that Macs seldom crash, and it is true.

Vista probably sold more Macs than the Apple advertising. What is ironic is that Vista ran faster on Macs than it did on the PCs. Microsoft is known for releasing programs before they should just so they can get them out as soon as possible. They let the public be the testers. It is always better to wait a while after they release a new system until the bugs are found and fixed.

I look at the Mac or PC thing like the Ford or the Chevy thing.

@Old Trooper 2: #81 The A-10 is my favorite plane. I live right across the highway from a Naval Air Station that has them and they are out almost every weekend. I am in hog heaven when I see them.

Can anyone explain to me why they aren’t made any more? Some of the planes are older than the pilots who fly them, yet they are always some of the first planes sent into combat. If they are still a first line of attack, why were they discontinued?

@ Smorgasbord

I worked on the A-10 for four years, still one of my favorite airframes. I was stationed in La., home of the 23rd Tactical Fighter Wing, Flying Tigers. With the Army’s Apache and the Navy’s FA-18 picking up CAS missions, it was determined that the A-10 would no longer be the Close Air Support Airframe for Joint Operations Command. Base Closures were responsible for a lot of those decisions. I know the field commanders weren’t very happy with the decision, just as they weren’t happy about giving up the SR-71 in favor of more satellites.

Delay what the Generals need, motivate the enemy, get our troops and Afghani civilians killed, lose the war, and hand Afghanistan back to the Taliban, all because he wanted to shove ObamaCare up our collective asses…

“Our Afghan policy was focused as much as anything on domestic politics,” an Obama adviser told the New York Times’ Peter Baker. “He would not risk losing the moderate to centrist Democrats in the middle of health insurance reform and he viewed that legislation as the make-or-break legislation for his administration.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/02/AR2010090203991.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Fuckyouverymuch, sir.

When Career Military Folk tell the DC Political Elite things that they don’t want to hear…
Commanders get relieved or resign. When the US loses a War, We lose prestige and
become lesser as an Ally and a Nation.

All Wars have the political side to them and AFPAK is only a symptom of bad Foreign Policy
decisions made by unqualified leaders in DC. Von Clausewitz referred to War as Politics
by another means. If you are not willing to do what it takes to win, you will lose despite brave
Troopers, brave Airmen and Sailors efforts to win.

AFPAK is more political than military and Failed Foreign Policy is only symptomatic of Failed Leadership in the White House. Period. I will argue that point with those in DC any time.
We Never Lost a War in the Field. We lose it when Career Politicians second guess Career Generals and send less than what it takes to win.

Who Loses? We ALL do. You can take that to the bank.

OT, I think it was Sun Tzu who wrote that it is possible to win the war and lose the peace or lose the war and win the peace.

If your blood pressure is under control, check out suek’s comment under the Sunday Funnies Preview.
whoops! PV caught the link. Belay that comment

Patvann I know the Giants are struggling but your mood needn’t turn that foul.If Repubs. turn against CIC in execution of this war I say pox on your house.

@rich wheeler:

Did you say “pox on your house” when the Dims turned against Bush when he was the CIC in charge of fighting two wars?

No?

Didn’t think so.

a.c. Reasonable to question wisdom of going in to Iraq.Once engaged I say pox on the house of Dems who did not support CIC.

@rich wheeler:

Reasonable to question wisdom of going in to Iraq. Once engaged I say pox on the house of Dems who did not support CIC.

Well, those who have been paying attention know that the Dims once thought that confronting the Iraq issue was important, if not paramount…of course, that was back before they were able to fashion it into a political football with the blood of our troops staining the playing field.

Furthermore Obie, the boy prez, the one you voted for, was one of the foremost voices of opposition. He was one of the ones who did everything he could do to block our success in Iraq. In addition to other things, he opposed the surge, the single most important element in turning the entire effort around.

Yes, Obie took to the airwaves, speaking out against the efforts of the CIC, feeding the determination of our enemy in the process. Not quite aid and comfort…more like “just hunker down and wait ’til we give up and go home.”

He did all of that….yet, you still voted for him.

Looks like consistent inconsistency on your part, eh?

A little trip down memory lane in case you missed it in #25 above:

A.C. Since my service in V.N. I’ve believed the CIC should be supported in time of war.I would add entry into war should be a last resort carefully and unemotionally thought out.ONCE IN WIN with full support of the American people.I turned 66 8/31,have always believed this personally.

My support of the Dem Party has always been based primarily on social issues.The execution of war,once entered, should not be a political football.

GO IRISH Halftime up 13-3

@Rich

There is nothing going on in my life, let alone a trivial sports team, when I am thinking of this war.

-I kinda have a few things at stake. My son, the Afghans, my son, the troops, my son, Islamic terror, my son….

Ya know…those “little” things.

This CiC can’t seem to do the same, and to obliquely excuse him of this political move, while hiding under the “support the CiC no matter what” canard is kinda weak.

Shall we now “support” losing wars, giving comfort to the enemy, and needlessly killing civilian and our own warriors in order to pass bills that put 18% of our economy under government control?

Really?…Because that’s EXACTLY what he did last year. He “played political football”, and while doing so, handed the ball to the enemy.

I will NOT support that. Ever.

I will curse him to my grave for it, even if there was an “R” after his name.

@Aqua: Funny you should mention the SR-71. I went to the Smithsonian’s National Air And Space Museum at the Dullis Airport and that was the first plane I saw. I was looking down from a walkway and just stared at it thinking I would never get to see one. I didn’t know they had one. You could get within about 10 feet from it. I didn’t know that all of the Smithsonians are free. I did leave a donation.

I side with Dr. K on this:

Our distracted commander in chief

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/02/AR2010090203991.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

How did Obama come to this decision? “Our Afghan policy was focused as much as anything on domestic politics,” an Obama adviser told the New York Times’ Peter Baker. “He would not risk losing the moderate to centrist Democrats in the middle of health insurance reform and he viewed that legislation as the make-or-break legislation for his administration.”

If this is true, then Obama’s military leadership can only be called scandalous. During the past week, 22 Americans were killed over a four-day period in Afghanistan. This is not a place about which decisions should be made in order to placate members of Congress, pass health care and thereby maintain a president’s political standing. This is a place about which a president should make decisions to best succeed in the military mission he himself has set out.

But Obama sees his wartime duties as a threat to his domestic agenda. These wars are a distraction, unwanted interference with his true vocation — transforming America.

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Having served at levels of Command from Platoon to BCT, thats Brigade Combat Team, I can see no excuse for not committing enough forces to win the Fight.

This was the stage for Obama to explain what follows the now-abolished Global War on Terror. Where does America stand on the spreading threats to stability, decency and U.S. interests from the Horn of Africa to the Hindu Kush?

On this, not a word. Instead, Obama made a strange and clumsy segue into a pep talk on the economy. Rebuilding it, he declared, “must be our central mission as a people, and my central responsibility as president.” This in a speech ostensibly about the two wars he is directing. He could not have made more clear where his priorities lie, and how much he sees foreign policy — war policy — as subordinate to his domestic ambitions.

Unfortunately, what for Obama is a distraction is life or death for U.S. troops now on patrol in Kandahar province. Some presidents may not like being wartime leaders. But they don’t get to decide. History does. Obama needs to accept the role. It’s not just the U.S. military, as Baker reports, that is “worried he is not fully invested in the cause.” Our allies, too, are experiencing doubt. And our enemies are drawing sustenance.

@Old Trooper 2: It sounds like you have joined the ranks of us those of us who think Obama’s main objective is to transform the USA into some kind of kingdom for himself.

@ Smorgasbord, as Karzai is attempting to negotiate with the Taliban right now, it may be obvious that announcing a timeline for withdrawal of US Forces was a less than brilliant move.

I reckon that you can draw your own conclusion from there. The War is just an unpleasant distraction…

@ Skookum, Sun Tzu was required reading at Command and General Staff School almost a lifetime ago. As I recall winning the War and the Peace happened in 1945 and has not happened since. The UN has been trying to negotiate the Peace for over 60 years and has not gotten it done anywhere yet.