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We are a week into Ramadan; yet what Americans are unaware of amidst all this hype and hysteria about the potential for a 13 story community center (with a mosque) conceived by Muslims, being built 2 blocks away from Ground Zero as opposed to 10 blocks away (which is about how far away Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has been holding congregations for years, serving the community of Lower Manhattan for 27 yrs), is that Ground Zero has been invaded by symbolic flags of Islamic conquest for years, now:

Breaking: Halal food carts spotted ON Ground Zero!

A reader writes in to sound the alarm about another sacrilege that we’ve all somehow overlooked:

One thing I haven’t seen anyone write about is the presence of Muslim food carts MUCH closer to Ground Zero. There are at least two, depending on the time of day, along West Broadway between Vesey and Park Place. One is practically on top of the Ground Zero construction site, outside the Path station. Aren’t they an “affront,” a “provocation”? Muslims engaging in in-your-face commerce on sacred ground, with the word HALAL prominently displayed on their carts! Where’s Palin when we need her??

This is an outrage! It’s a slap in the face to all Americans. Would we have let udon noodle stands open shop at Pearl Harbor? Or allow sushi to be served aboard the USS Nevada just 9 years after the day that lives on in infamy?

Why isn’t this “creeping diarrhea” making frontpage headline news?! I am so sick of the media bias!

Granted, they most likely have the proper mobile food vendor’s license, and aren’t breaking any laws (Can we get some lawyers on this, right away, just to be sure? Perhaps find a loophole…). So we are appealing to Muslim food peddlers’ sensitivities here and demand: Go peddle the halal somewhere else. It is inappropriate and distasteful.

Especially during the month of Ramadan.

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I laugh at your opinion as if someone as brilliantly moral as you has the right to hold such an opinion of another person. Ever heard what they say about opinions? Facts bite hard. Bigotry takes action and I will challenge you to find anyone on the planet who knows me and will call me a bigot. What I wrote was factual information concerning the documents that define the religion. But let us not have facts get in the way of name calling. Islam is what is Islam is. Only very ignorant or self-annointed liberals would say otherwise. Guess one does not have the right to criticize a religion here either, huh? Enjoy your opinion and make sure you get back to the other members of the authors here and tell them they are liars for saying no one does name calling.

@CHill:

I laugh at your opinion as if someone as brilliantly moral as you has the right to hold such an opinion of another person?

Isn’t that precisely the position that you took regarding those who have chosen Islam as their religion.

Why yes, I believe it is.

You claim to only judge people as you meet them…yet you cast a wide net with your words regarding people that you specifically said that you have never met.

Bigotry is not only beliefs put into action, but thought processes as well. Look it up. Heck, I even posted a link to an online dictionary to make it easy for you.

Your escape hatch has failed and you’ve become enmeshed in your own words.

Aye: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern American English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation and religion. (Wilkipedia}

Read it carefully as bigotry involves more than just writing thoughts down on a blog. If you need help with the English, ask as I have a masters in English.

I am not hostile to anyone but apparently you are.

Enjoy your English lesson especially when you exhibit intolerance, irrationality and animosity to those with whom you disagree. Philosophizing about a religion based on the doctrines of that religion is not exactly casting a net on anyone.

Let me guess – a liberal, right? Do you need a list of names that you can call me? Got lots of them if you can’t think of any. Go ahead. Get that last word in to make yourself feel powerful and in control.

PATVANN: that’s why we’r engaging you here, if you want, we can step up the “engaging ”
A few more notchs.
I see that you spend the night here ,and put some glue on this post,
I’m coming to the rescue. bye

One last point Mr. Aye:

One of many sources for my statements(oh, I mean bigotry):

http://www.politicalislam.com/principles/pages/five-principles/

Aw crap…. I go to bed and you folks not only steal my 200th post…. ya’ll go into over kill with an extra 22 on top of it.

One cannot sleep around here! Or the dingos will ‘et your stick…

@Patvann…. nice job on the kitchen… not everyone can build kitchen cabinets from scratch.

Pat, your kitchen is beautiful, nice job, a real wife pleaser! Bet your family leaves the house happy every morning, I would just want to sit there and enjoy it all day! 😉

In my house…. the wife doesn’t even know that we have a kitchen… let alone where it is.

PATVANN: I’m glad MISSY mentioned it, I would have miss that; It’s a unique style,
Beautifuly made and designed, I love the color, very natural and appeasing,
I could have been a good helper on that; I’m proud of you, fantastic job.
HOW long did it take your spare time to do?. bye

DONALD BLY: why did you have to hide the kitchen from your wife?
IF you have a too big house, just cut it and rent the other side,
BUT you’ll need some research to do on the tenant before, because once they are in
they demand all kinds of rights, and you become hostage . bye

@Bees…. I didn’t have to hide the kitchen from the wife… she has some kind of genetic GPS system that guides her away from things like, stoves, sinks, and dishwashers. I also learned all about being a hostage over 25 years ago when I discovered that combining the words “I” and “do” instantly transform one from free bird to hostage.

CHill- Ref 206- Believe Zippo is living in Bangkok. Tell Curt to give you my e-mail and I’ll forward his info. Got an e-mail form him this am ref GZM. Doesn’t care much for commies and Islamists.

@Chill

Strange reaction I see here…Aye and I have been in lockstep this whole time, yet it is only my posit you’ve recently come around to accepting. I would ask that you to re-evaluate his words.

RE: Kitchen

The kitchen was built for my brother and his wife (99.98% for the wife) for their 20th wedding anniversary. It was a hideous mess before, and I stripped it down to the wall and ceiling-studs so that I could work with a “blank slate”.

I designed the cabinets, routered the doors, and rough-cut the panels, but it was my brother in-law (who owns the specialty-tools needed), who did the final cutting for the flush-mounted hinges, and dovetailed drawers, final-cutting and such. Then I did the assembly, staining, hanging, mounting and other work to build in the dishwasher, trash-compactor, lazy-susan shelving (on sealed bearings) and a bunch of other little touches. I added low-voltage lighting under the cabinets, installed sun-tubes, raised part of the ceiling, put in can-lights and did all the tile/granite work after replacing all the wiring, plumbing, and wallboards, which is now water/fireproof Hardiebacker, and not drywall. The sink is cast iron, and extra deep, with a built-in soap dispenser. If you’ll notice, the “island” has no visible supports. That’s because I installed pre-stressed steel rods under the granite and substructure, in the same way bridges are made strong. The flooring was straight-forward, and the final touch.

My brother’s wife was out-of state taking care of her mother who had become very ill. Her mom recovered, but she was despondent over missing their anniversary when she left. Ray wasn’t feeling too good about his situation either, because he had been out of work for 8 months.

My wife was the one who came up with the brilliant idea of the surprise (and much of the lay-out and material choosing). Ray was the “ultimate distractor” (and helper) during her month away, while I “went to town” with the best skills I had to offer. She had no idea what-so-ever what she was coming home to.

It cost them nothing but beer and munchies, (he bought the fridge, though) but I was paid the most I have ever been paid for any job, at any time in my life, when she came into that kitchen and promptly collapsed in joyous tears. She is still the envy of the neighborhood 5 years later.
🙂

(another view)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu80/Patvann/DSC00193.jpg

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I could turn that now-wasted space into a private “man-cave”, for ya!

@Patvann:

Very, very nice job on the kitchen Pat.

My wife is making noises now about the kitchen being the next major project on our list….the never ending list of things that need to be done in a house from 1880.

I plan to build the cabinets myself and I hope I can do as nice a job as you.

PATVANN; wow I also like the computer in the kitchen space.your brother did a good routing job ,so all classy.
I also love MY DREMMEL router, I made some nice things with it, LIKE a 4 pannels divider with top and bottom OAKLEAVES carved in row of different one side by side,with my router,funny ,I took the design on a pillowcase; plus I woodburn designs taken from many children’s books, like one
is a little boy with long ears pointed riding on a owl,and things like that, and on both sides, and
I colord each one to his diffrent color, and last, I apply varnish to it 6 coats, it took me a year,
I was stranded in the house because my husband sikness could not be left alone 24hrs, so this peace is along with music what prevent me to loose my sanity at this time which has past,

@Beez

That sounds beautiful! I like how you made a very-personal touch with the artwork! Ideas can be found everywhere!

-I hope your husband is now with good health.

PATVANN thank you, but HE is where there is no more suffering, and he wanted that, but I prolong his life so he would not himself end it. . bye

@Beez

Oh I am so sorry… 😥

PATVANN,thoses years are far away,and I HAVE died and reborn to follow a new direction completly different
AND beyong my wildest dreams, just beginning for me. bye

@Bees

I think that I can speak for most of us here in telling you how sorry we are for your loss. We are also very fortunate to have your voice amongst ours. Thank you.

Although my wife can’t find the kitchen… I’m an avid cook and a big fan of Thai food which I have been fortunate enough to become skilled in creating. A year in Thailand and eating cowpot cooked along side the road made a believer out of me…. a heaping plate of cowpot gai all for a quarter…. you just can’t beat eats like that. And it’s fast food… most dishes done in under 15 minutes from start to finish.

johngalt, thank you, I WAS relathing to past years, THE tears have dried to make room
for a shining beautifull renewal of my life which I accept as a gift and allow things to happen and follow the road to it, like a rebirt after having to fight with living hell itself for to many years.

@ilovebeeswarzone: Your Canadian $2.00 is worth about $1.91 compared to American $2.00 right now.

We have loonies in the USA, but they are not currency. We call them democrats. Down here a crazy person sometimes is called a loon, and a mental institution is sometimes called the loony bin. Right now I think that would be the proper name for Congress because they have more loons than sane people.

We have tonies, but they are awards for entertainers.

When I visit another country one souvenir I try to get is one of each of that country’s coins. My favorite is your $2.00 coin with its metal within metal design.

The first time I was in Canada the money was confusing because you use the same terms as we do: Dollar, quarter, etc. The first time I bought something I wondered if they use American money until I got the change. I had no idea how much the change was worth and trusted the waitress to give me the right amount. A person should know the exchange rate for any country they visit. They should also try to spend all of the currency they have from that country before they leave it because the neighboring country might not accept it.

I didn’t think about that when I came back to the USA. I was talking about the Canadian money I had and someone said they would buy it, so I sold it to him. I hadn’t started saving country’s coins at that time.

DONALD BLY , hi, so you are the chef of the kitchen, those thai recipys include many veretables I think and would be cook in a wock and with oil?. sound good healthy food. bye

SMORGASBORD: hi, IT would be a pleasure to send you and I must send one
I owe now to CHIHUAHUA, but I have no where to send it.
IS there a box at FA that I can send to a name? I dont know. bye

@ilovebeeswarzone:

You really don’t owe me a thing Ms. Bees.

Just keep participating and making yourself a part of us here and that would be way better than anything else I could ask for.

AYE CHIHUAHUA: thank you,for being so gracious, I made a deal and I will owe you until I find a way to send it, So if it take longer the interest will accumulate, bye

CURT did someone delete the comment to SHANNON from COMMONSENSE,I receiced it in my mail
A while ago, I went to check and it’s not at SHANNON. bye

@Bees…. One cannot cook Thai without a bottle of fish oil… It is a must… extract of anchovy.

@ilovebeeswarzone: I forgot to mention that I have been in Canada several times and have several of each of your coins. If you still want to send me some Canadian money, that is fine with me. How much are we talking about?

@ilovebeeswarzone: If you don’t have the trash automatically delete the emails, it will still be there. I keep mine for at least one year for that reason. Just put “shannon” or “commonsense” in the trash search window and it will list all emails with those names.

Patvann #231: How can I reevaluate being called a bigot based on a response that starts out with “Islam is not a religion of peace and never has been.” Do believe the content is about the revered principles on which Islam was established and can be seen in the Quran, Hadith and other documents. I have not gone back and read what I wrote specifically but the intent was to point out how difficult it is to know who is following the these tenets and who is not.

As I recall, I used the example of what happened in Iran in the 70s with the hostage taking and thousands of foreigners kicked out. My unit flew cover for the evacuation and I personally helped hundreds of families be comfortable as they waited on flights home from Athens. The stories they told were pretty consistent in that their Iranian friends turned on them and many stated they had been faking their friendship until the right time.

Bigotry. I would say it is more like factual data.

The kicker in this little episode and one in which even Mr. Aye will have trouble overcoming is when I asked him if Islam has specific requirements on how Muslims should treat infidels (and Kafirs) in their holy documents. He refused to answer the question (which is undeniably yes) and changed the subject to individual believers of the faith and their relationships. All I could do at that point was shrug my shoulders and realize he was clueless about what I was writing. Even he should have realized (especially since the subject sentence started out with Islam and not Muslims) that I was writing about philosophical and political Islam. I was picking oranges way up in the orange tree while he was applying manure to the ground around the tree.

Suggest he refrain from calling people names in knee jerk fashion based on blog posts written in response to issues which are controversial. One should not have to parse words carefully at a conservative website. Such knee jerks can be found all day among liberals. Mr Aye reminded me of my dear brother in Oklahoma who looks hard to find things I write to use against me as a weapon of name calling. He, too, is a dedicated liberal.

Twas not a very impressive show of restraint on his part and, of course, any misunderstanding on the content was my fault since as Wordsmith found out with this posting – the written word does not portray intent as well as the spoken word.

@CHill:

I have not gone back and read what I wrote specifically but the intent was to point out how difficult it is to know who is following the these tenets and who is not.

Therein lies the problem.

You haven’t even refreshed your memory regarding what you’ve written yet you insist that you’re correct.

Hint: You got off on the wrong track in your very first post and it went spiraling down from there.

Run along now Mr. Parchment Diploma. See if you too can discover what is abundantly clear.

PS…. That definition of bigotry that you provided fits you perfectly. If you need help with the English, just let me know.

Aye: OOOOOH, such brilliant tactics to redeem thyself. You are truly an intellect of immense proportions.

Do the holy books of Islam dictate how believers are to treat infidels (kafir)? Now it is your turn to get the gist of the content. Funny how you still refuse to answer the simple question and realize what it was all about. Why ask such a question?

Parchments are nice things to achieve. Maybe it is time for you to try to achieve one.

Nice place you have here – NOT!

You obviously have not kept up with other bloggings.

The definition also fits someone else as well. (You probably do not understand to whom I am referring)

IT”S too regrettable, that this hot subject has succeed to divide SMART COMMENTERS who stand their ground on each side, but all belong to the same party, and same ideal,
OF restoring AMERICA which is sinking deeper into debts from bad policys,
AND destructives AIMS as to DIVIDE and HATEFULLY use the racist card , and the bullying tactic
to insult the people who dont accept to be governed bye such incompetance..
THERE is so much anger in a majority of AMERICANS, who must be patient until the time come du, to vote rightfully for RESTORING AMERICA.

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