21 Jun

Obama’s Rules of Engagement In Afghanistan Will Ensure Our Failure

                                       

The new rules of fighting a war….Obama style, via George F. Will: (h/t The Captain’s Journal)

… occasionally there are riveting communications, such as a recent e-mail from a noncommissioned officer (NCO) serving in Afghanistan. He explains why the rules of engagement for U.S. troops are “too prohibitive for coalition forces to achieve sustained tactical successes.”

Receiving mortar fire during an overnight mission, his unit called for a 155mm howitzer illumination round to be fired to reveal the enemy’s location. The request was rejected “on the grounds that it may cause collateral damage.” The NCO says that the only thing that comes down from an illumination round is a canister, and the likelihood of it hitting someone or something was akin to that of being struck by lightning.

Returning from a mission, his unit took casualties from an improvised explosive device that the unit knew had been placed no more than an hour earlier. “There were villagers laughing at the U.S. casualties” and “two suspicious individuals were seen fleeing the scene and entering a home.” U.S. forces “are no longer allowed to search homes without Afghan National Security Forces personnel present.” But when his unit asked Afghan police to search the house, the police refused on the grounds that the people in the house “are good people.”

On another mission, some Afghan adults ran off with their children immediately before the NCO’s unit came under heavy small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), and the unit asked for artillery fire on the enemy position. The response was a question: Where is the nearest civilian structure? “Judging distances,” the NCO writes dryly, “can be difficult when bullets and RPGs are flying over your head.” When the artillery support was denied because of fear of collateral damage, the unit asked for a “smoke mission” — like an illumination round; only the canister falls to earth — “to conceal our movement as we planned to flank and destroy the enemy.” This request was granted — but because of fear of collateral damage, the round was deliberately fired one kilometer off the requested site, making “the smoke mission useless and leaving us to fend for ourselves.”

The NCO is the backbone of our nations military. They don’t deal with the politics of the upper ranks, they operate to achieve the mission and keep their men save. They are on the ground, on the front lines with their troops. They see it all….and when they are seeing what the NCO wrote about above you just have to know we have already lost Afghanistan.

Obama came into office telling us that we were fighting the wrong war in Iraq…Afghanistan is the real threat. But here we are on the verge of it becoming such a quagmire of no progress and body bags that we will be forced to leave in failure

Because of our troops, one great General, and one great President…we won the war in Iraq. A new President now sits in power and he is ensuring our failure in the one place he said we needed to win at.

Unbelievable.

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Curt served in the Marine Corps for four years and has been a law enforcement officer in Los Angeles for the last 20 years.
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60 Responses to Obama’s Rules of Engagement In Afghanistan Will Ensure Our Failure

  1. Hankster58 says: 51

    I’m going to do something i don’t do too ofter… QUOTE Rush Limbaugh!!!!!!
    “”The armies job is to kill people and break things!”” And he’s absolutely correct??? They’re not cops, babysitters, nation builders etc… This I see is where this has all gone wrong.. Viet Nam2. You do not run “nice wars”!!!! You kick ass, and take no names, until the white flag goes up, or your opponent goes down, in totality!!! Period!!
    Another Quote, from Sheriff Jim Wilson…. “In a gunfight, it’s not a ballet with rules!! You shoot the other guy FIRST, you shoot him HARDEST, and we’ll sort out the rest afterwards!! THAT, is WAR!! Hard, mean and ugly. It was MEANT to be, so people would AVOID it!! Once you tried to “civilize it”.. it’s like the first time Amnesty was given to Illegals… the “intention was good”… but the END RESULT, SUCKS!!!

    Give em some REAL war… and it’ll end fast! one way, or the other. In either case, our guys come home quicker!

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  2. Hankster58 says: 52

    oops, that should be !!!! after correct. NOT ??? my bad.. very busy day! just got tagged to be County Campaign Co-ordinator for Chuck Purgason for Senate !!!! yee haa!!!! now it REALLY gets interesting!!

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  3. HANKSTER 58: hi, HE sure knew to pick the best guy, good luck. bye :roll:

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  4. Flyovercountry says: 54

    @Hankster58:

    I’m going to do something i don’t do too ofter… QUOTE Rush Limbaugh!!!!!!
    “”The armies job is to kill people and break things!”” And he’s absolutely correct???

    would it make you feel any better to know that Rush got this from General Patton? The idea and broader concept, and not the exact phrasing anyhow. Just because Ruch repeated it, that does not invalidate its veracity.

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  5. Hankster58 says: 55

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v71W_FFW_J0&feature=related

    You mean from something like this????? this was the real text used in the film…..
    Then, there is THIS….. a “remake, but it is interesting in it’s “updated” commentary!

    try this one too…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU1vL3TsIis&feature=related

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  6. Greg says: 56

    “Give em some REAL war… and it’ll end fast!”

    The former Soviet Union already gave that a serious try. They crawled away some 10 years later, having lost over 14 thousand troops. “Afghansitan is the graveyard of empires.” So many have said that over the years that the quote can’t even be attributed. Maybe this time it will be different.

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  7. Barb says: 57

    Rules of Engagement are giving the enemy the upper hand while masquerading as protecting civilians! This has turned into a grotesque POLITICALLY CORRECT WAR that is getting our American and NATO troops killed by the dozens — ! These idiots consider “spotters” — AFghans who are using cell phones as weapons to call in our troops movements to the Taliban — as CIVILIANS!!! Wrong! They are enemies using cell phones and binoculars as weapons! THEY SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND IMPRISONED. Instead, Petreaus is allowing it, making our troops jobs MUCH more DEADLY. Good job U.N. butt kissers! Your “rules” will ensure DEFEAT and LOTS OF BODY BAGS COMING BACK TO THE U.S.!!!!
    Let the troops have decision making in any rules — not desk jockey U.N. and ISAF bureaucrats who know nothing of dangerous combat and mainly, don’t CARE about American or NATO soldiers, who they consider “expendable” resources!
    Join us to protest ROE’s! http://www.facebook.com/newsbusters#!/pages/ROE-Rules-of-Engagement-US-Military/133982856628453

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  8. BARB: VERY GOOD, don’t forget to get back, I and we would like
    to know how it turn out,on answers, bye
    thank you

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