2 May

Weekly Open Thread

e35_00009724The third of 3 photos by Olivier Vandeginste, taken 10 km east of Hvolsvollur Iceland on April 18th, 2010. Lightning flashes and glowing lava illuminate parts of Eyjafjallajokull’s massive ash plume in this 30-second exposure.

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Curt served in the Marine Corps for four years and has been a law enforcement officer in Los Angeles for the last 20 years.
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  1. archer52 says: 1

    I’ve been working over the new Arizona law on illegals. Over at Gateway there is some good back and forth. I wrote my post from the position of a street cop fed up with politicians kicking this can down the street again by putting the weight on the police.

    Here is the first post-

    http://truthandcommonsense.com/2010/04/24/arizona-takes-one-step-closer-to-your-papers-please-typical-example-of-treating-a-symptom-and-not-the-disease/

    If you don’t get the why it is a bad idea, take the time to read it.

    Here is a follow up-

    http://truthandcommonsense.com/2010/04/24/a-good-back-and-forth-at-gateway-with-another-poster-and-i-worth-putting-here/

    In essence the problem is the political crowd will not make the hard choice and end illegal immigration. It could be done tomorrow and there would be a huge voluntary movement south.

    Simply shut off the money.

    here is a portion-

    So, what is the disease that keeps the boils popping up? Remember the rule- “Chase the offender not the offense.” What is the offender here? Simple- money. The illegals come here to make money taking jobs we won’t take for the wages offered. It is a boon to them and a relief to us. The politicians see illegals as a way to insure their return to power in D.C. which of course makes them rich. Businesses want illegals to work for them because they cost less to employ. The government, especially the Social Security department, likes the idea of having seven and a half percent sent into their coffers under a fake social security number. If they didn’t, would they not immediately notify the employer?

    It is and always has been about the money.

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  2. TSgt Ciz says: 2

    30 years ago my friends and comrades attempted a dareing raid in Iran. I raise a glass in the memory of those good brave and patriotic men who were willing to give their all for their fellow citizens. And especially to TSgt Joel Mayo. Your efforts to get a young Buck Sgt to make a bigger difference were not wasted.

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  3. TSgt CIZ: hi,i feel that to mush BRAVES are gone;and thoses who are living diserve better. bye :roll:

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  4. Jim B says: 4

    I read today that on April 29th, 711, the islamic colonization/invation of Iberia(Spain & Portugal) began with the African moslims crossing the Strait of Gilbraltar. Death to islam!

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  5. Jim B says: 5

    Dear TSgt Ciz, My Vets’ Org down here in Florida will be in the Davie, Fl Memorial Day Parade and Ceremony. Of course I’d like to be drinking beer at a bar-b-q, but being a combat vet myself with the 4th ID, I miss my friends too. Although I’m very proud of my service, I sure wish the killing would stop. I tune in to PBS at about 6:50pm and they have the casulties. Dam those moslems for draging us into this.

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  6. Patter says: 6

    archer52,
    Don’t forget the other big money gorilla-in-the-room, Mexico itself. Think of all the money they make from people sending it home. Think of all the money they save because we provide services they would have to. Think of all the corrupt Mexican politicians and LEO who profit from the drug and people traffic over the border. Threatening to send the illegals back is threatening Mexico’s bottom line, in direct proportion to how many go back.
    Here in AZ, it’s been common for years that Mexicans of whatever legal status make big pilgrimages back home for Christmas, Easter, end of the growing season–because they could come back here so easily. When they went they took lots of goodies, more benefit to Mexico. It was a big shock when they started getting stricter at the legitimate crossings and it was harder for the undocumented to slip back in. But until the violence got as bad as it has in the last two years, it was obvious that for many, time in the US is just temporary, Mexico was the real home and they were truly migrant or “guest” workers. I’m afraid that if we only try to secure our borders, without continually leaning on Mexico to rein in the crooks and develop their own social programs, the migrantes will just get more desperate and start asking for asylum.

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  7. Patvann says: 7

    This morning I got my first post-deployment message from my son! He shipped out early Saturday morning, and is now waiting in Kyrgyzstan (Manas airfield) for the next leg of his journey toward Helmand Provence. He’s in good spirits, rested and ready to go.

    @ TechSarge

    I remember those days intensely. I was stationed on a carrier in the Med at the time. It still hurts today.

    *clink*… To those who Carter killed. We still wait to avenge you.

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  8. archer52 says: 8

    Patter-

    Dead on. Mexico makes billions every year off the top as a fee for allowing the money to come back into Mexico. Add to that the money they save by getting rid of their underclass by sending it here and no wonder it wants things to stay the same.

    If you read some of my posts I argue for a guest worker program with all the bells and whistles attached, paying taxes, limited access, etc. One of the big qualifications if you have to go home after so many years to “touch base” so to speak, maybe annually for Mexicans because of their close proximity to Mexico. It would allow for us to review their status and behavior before letting them back in.

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  9. Patter says: 9

    archer52,
    I agree about the guest worker program. There are always going to be people crossing borders to work, not all to here and not all from Mexico. I know Americans working abroad have to maintain a little contact (via the IRS :) ) to keep up their citizenship. Why shouldn’t others? Do it for every country. They can be tagged with a RFID chip to monitor–at least half serious here. In fact I know some migrants have probably stayed here when they would have liked to go home, just because they know it might not be possible to get back and can’t let go of the income.
    The trouble is all these guest worker programs get linked to citizenship. About now I’m so fed up with the hypocrisy of “fairness” toward illegals who “deserve” citizenship for their good behavior that I need to quit reading the news. It’s probably best to sort all issues out one at a time, that’s where we get in these stupid binds trying to lump problems together.

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  10. PATVANN:hi, i wish a safe journey for JOHN ;best to you too. :roll: bye

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