Why are all the O’faithful so math challenged? ahem, Flo….

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@Flo…you need to brush up on your history. You can thank the late Teddy Kennedy for the change in our immigration policies from that of numerical quotas and immigration based on what trade skills were possessed to chain immigration that literally opened the floodgates of immigrants.

“# The 1965 revamp of the entire immigration system. It ended 40 years of low immigration, got rid of solid numerical caps and opened up chain migration into every overpopulated country in the world, exploding annual immigration numbers
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# Massive expansion of the refugee programs in the late 1970s, opening up massive loopholes and encouraging a domestic resettlement industry that became a major lobby for more and more overall immigration.”

And what is chain immigration?

“It begins with one immigrant legally bringing a spouse and minor children � keep in mind that Mexicans average four children per family � and, within a few years, after they’ve been naturalized, parents and siblings; the same process is then repeated by their relatives, ad infinitum.”

Thank you Ted Kennedy, still screwing America from beyond the grave.

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It is so nice to be called a Reagan supporter. I believe that his policies should be
strengthened. I do not believe that the illegals be granted amnesty and citizenship
that the obamaites wish to do. If illegals are approved by the Socialist Democrats,
we can kiss Democracy good bye. I don’t prescribe to the current obamaite philosophy
to be nice to the Al Queda people either as several European countries do. I do not
like to say that the Muslims are nice people for THEY ARE NOT! That is why we are in
Iraq and Afghanistan. Hell, Iran is creating all the IED’s and training terrorists to kill
Jews and Americans and NATO troops. Vote NO on Health Care. I have never seen
the ruthlessness in the current administration. It is much worse than Clinton, and
they have a clinton in the State department, and she bashes jews all the time following
obama philosophy which is anti-American.

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@Flo

It’s a good thing for you that hate and stupidity don’t hurt, or you’d be writhing on the floor screaming.

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Chuck–I think you’re one of the tea party folks that would like to see us back in the middle ages. It was Reagan who started this immigration catastrophe!! He gave amnesty to millions of illegals and then proceeded to bring millions of their families in as well as a way to swamp the middle class and get rid of them. As a so called pro lifer he also started the flooding of no abortions, no birth control which with all the amnesty gave us Catholics with children they couldn’t afford giving the tax payers more parasites to ruin this country. George Bush came in with a surplus and he proceeded with 2 wars that he wanted–Phil Graham of Texas got rid of the regulations on banks and wall street and now we have the melt down killing more middle class tax payers. The bushes bankrupted us with $90 billion a month for 7 years now and that’s a big chunck of change from the middle classes. Now we have millions more illegals demanding citizenship and all the perks costing tax payers billions of dollars. Hopefully Chuck you have millions of dollars because you’re going to need them to stay alive what with millions of people (formally illegal) wanting your dollars to have millions of kids they can’t afford. It was also Reagan who started the shipping and subsidizing corps. to ship jobs over seas and now we have very little manufacturing and China ownes us. Good luck Chuck for helping to kill the USA as we grew up in!!!!

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I contacted the Congressional Democrats and told them to vote against the
Health Care bill that this president is still lying about. Who is going to pay
the Cadillac tax? Why did the administration want to take away military coverage?
Why is there so many taxes in this bill? The big lie that the president is telling that
it is not for him? Well, hell, it must be, for he is lying awake at night trying to
figure out the next lie to tell the American people. He wants this bill for it was
a Socialist democrat campaign issue, and he continues to hide behind the desk
of the presidency and thinks that it is enough sway for the american people to
believe.WE ALL KNOW WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH, AND IT IS NOT THE PRESIDENT,
PEOLOSI, OR THE CHIEF OF STAFF! The Socialist democrats in the congress have
been thrown to the fear mongers of not being re-elected, and not receiving money
for their campaigns. These people have no idea that the States of these United States
of America has something to say in this manner, and Idaho and several other
western states have already stepped up to the plate and NO- to the Socialists
and a Muslim in the white house.

Incidentally, November 10, 2010 is not that far away. So, Democrats, pack your
bags, for you are going away, and I don’t care where, maybe Mexico.

Also, the white house wants to approve illegals! Hell, the illegals already get Social
Security and other benefits that is costing us taxpayers a hell of a lot of money that
these Socialist democrats want to spend foolishly in bankrupting our country.

Therefore, America let us strike a blow for freedom and democracy and say NO to
all proposals that this administration is proposing. TEA PARTIES- LET’S SPEAK OUT NOW
AND EVERYDAY TILL WE CLEAN HOUSE IN WASHINGTON DC AND GET RID OF PELOSI,
REED, CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE Muslim president who is not serving the USA but
the devil!

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@Patvann:

@Skookum:

I bought Sarah’s book about a month ago but haven’t started it yet, been saving it for springtime on the deck.

Leafed through it yesterday to see if the trip to the doctor was mentioned, didn’t find what I was looking for, but I did see in one of the chapters that she has a friend named……………….Skookum! That name just lept off the page.

Hmmmmm, the plot thickens, eh? Fess up Skooks!

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@StageRt #59:

I could NOT, in good conscience, support G. W. Besides being a Coke Head and drunk, he wormed his way out of serving in Viet Nam. For political gain, he besmirched the military record of an officer who didn’t hide behind his Daddy’s coat tails. The Swiftboat lies were later documented, but the election was over by then.

Wow…talk about so much BDS in one paragraph. It’s always interesting when it comes from someone on the right-side of the political aisle (lemmee guess: Ron Paul Reverist?).

My own cut-and-paste:

90% of young Americans of the time, never served in Vietnam. If one wanted guaranteed avoidance of serving in combat, joining the Air National Guard as a fighter pilot would hardly be a smart move. W. Bush joined the Guard for a 6-year term. If you are drafted, you only had to serve 2 years. Pilots from the unit that he joined were being sent to Vietnam.

Letter by Col. William Campenni Ret. published in the Washington Times:

There was one big exception to this abusive use of the Guard to avoid the draft, and that was for those who wanted to fly, as pilots or crew members. Because of the training required, signing up for this duty meant up to 2½ years of active duty for training alone, plus a high probability of mobilization. A fighter-pilot candidate selected by the Guard (such as Lt. Bush and I) would be spending the next two years on active duty going through basic training (six weeks), flight training (one year), survival training (two weeks) and combat crew training for his aircraft (six to nine months), followed by local checkout (up to three more months) before he was even deemed combat-ready. Because the draft was just two years, you sure weren’t getting out of duty being an Air Guard pilot. If the unit to which you were going back was an F-100, you were mobilized for Vietnam. Avoiding service? Yeah, tell that to those guys. The Bush critics do not comprehend the dangers of fighter aviation at any time or place, in Vietnam or at home, when they say other such pilots were risking their lives or even dying while Lt. Bush was in Texas. Our Texas ANG unit lost several planes right there in Houston during Lt. Bush’s tenure, with fatalities. Just strapping on one of those obsolescing F-102s was risking one’s life.

From aerospaceweb:

we have established that the F-102 was serving in combat in Vietnam at the time Bush enlisted to become an F-102 pilot. In fact, pilots from the 147th FIG of the Texas ANG were routinely rotated to Vietnam for combat duty under a program called ”Palace Alert” from 1968 to 1970. Palace Alert was an Air Force program that sent qualified F-102 pilots from the ANG to bases in Europe or southeast Asia for periods of three to six months for frontline duty.

Fred Bradley, a friend of Bush’s who was also serving in the Texas ANG, reported that he and Bush inquired about participating in the Palace Alert program. However, the two were told by a superior, MAJ Maurice Udell, that they were not yet qualified since they were still in training and did not have the 500 hours of flight experience required. Furthermore, ANG veteran COL William Campenni, who was a fellow pilot in the 111th FIS at the time, told the Washington Times that Palace Alert was winding down and not accepting new applicants.

As he was completing training and being certified as a qualified F-102 pilot, Bush’s squadron was a likely candidate to be rotated to Vietnam. However, the F-102 was built for a type of air combat that wasn’t seen during that conflict, and the plane was withdrawn from southeast Asia in December 1969. The F-102 was instead returned to its primary role of providing air defense for the United States. In addition, the mission of Ellington AFB, where Bush was stationed, was also changing from air defense alert to training all F-102 pilots in the US for Air National Guard duty. Lt. Bush remained in the ANG as a certified F-102 pilot who participated in frequent drills and alerts through April of 1972. … By this time, the 147th Fighter Wing was also beginning to transition from the F-102 to the F-101F, an updated version of the F-101B used primarily for air defense patrols. Furthermore, the war in Vietnam was nearing its end and the US was withdrawing its forces from the theater. Air Force personnel returning to the US created a glut of active-duty pilots, and there were not enough aircraft available to accommodate all of the qualified USAF and ANG pilots. Since USAF personnel had priority for the billets available, many of the Air National Guard pilots whose enlistments were nearly complete requested early release. The ANG was eager to fulfill these requests because there was not enough time to retrain F-102 pilots to operate new aircraft before their enlistments were up anyway. Bush was one of those forced out by the transition, and he was honorably discharged as a first lieutenant in October 1973, eight months before his six-year enlistment was complete. Bush had approximately 600 flight hours by the time he completed his military service.

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While Bush did not see combat in Vietnam, it is also obvious that he was not seeking a way to avoid the risk of being sent to Vietnam. At the time he was training to be an F102 pilot, ANG units and that aircraft type were based in Vietnam.

More BDS:

He lied to support his war in Iraq.

What specifically, did he lie about?

Worse, while we went trotting off to Iraq, we lost sight of the true enemy, al Quaeda,

If it’s just al Qaeda who is the enemy, what prompted Bush to say the following:

“Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated.”
-President Bush in an address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People, United States Capitol, Washington D.C., September 20, 2001.

Were KSM and Zubaydah part of al Qaeda before 9/11? Was Zarqawi?

and now we have to go fight for the same ground in Afghanistan we had already won in ‘02 against a reconstituted Taliban.

Waah, waah, waah. Does NATO share any of the blame? Or is it just “Bush took his eyes off the ball” blame-handing? Guess what?

“The going is likely to get harder before it gets easy… the enemy will fight back.“

Setbacks are a part of life. The Taliban aren’t going to just roll over for us. Wars are messy and sometimes protracted.

That defies Patton’s 1st Rule of combat.
He allowed the troops at Abu Ghraib to be tried and imprisoned all the while KNOWING they were following the orders of their commanding officers. You ever had a boss ‘throw you under the bus’?

Admiral T. Church III, Navy Inspector General, conducted an independent investigation and said: “the vast majority of detainees held by the U.S. forces during the Global War on Terror have been treated humanely.”

Going into the investigation, he had expected to find a policy of abuse that went up the chain of command. What he found was: “none of the pictured abuses…bear any resemblance to approved policies at any level, in any theater.”

An early focus of our investigation was to determine whether DoD had promulgated interrogation policies or guidance that directed, sanctioned or encouraged the abuse of detainees. We found that this was not the case.

Also from an Independent Panel led by James Schlesinger and Harold Brown, along with Congresswoman Tillie Fowler and Air Force General Charles Horner: “The events that took place at Abu Ghraib were an aberration when compared to the situation at other detention operations….No approved procedures called for or allowed the kinds of abuse that in fact occurred.”

I won’t even go in to his assault on the Constitution. We probably won’t know the depth of that for another 20 years.

and

@StageRt #52:

No President has put the Constitution under higher attack than G. W. Bush when he authorized the tapping of YOUR phone without a court approval.

Two book recommendations: John Yoo’s Crisis and Command: A History of Executive Power from George Washington to George W. Bush (Yes, THAT John Yoo):

Given Yoo’s strong conservatism, it would be easy for liberals to dismiss “Crisis and Command” as one more venture in a hackneyed debate. That would be a big mistake. True to form, Yoo does use his two brief final chapters to defend the George W. Bush legacy and drive progressives nuts with the idea that President Obama has some strangely reactionary ideas struggling to control his brain. But the heart of the book is the highly favorable treatment that Yoo extends to five great presidents — all of whom should rank high on any liberal’s list of admirable leaders: Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt — followed by a broad survey of the Cold War presidents from Truman through Reagan.

This is a deeply serious history of the presidency, sometimes selective in its emphasis, but always provocative and thoughtful. The recurring theme is how well the republic was served by the initiatives these leaders took.

In two early chapters, Yoo briefly surveys the origins of the presidency, tracking historians (such as myself) who have explained how the anti-executive biases of the first constitutionalists of 1776 gave way to the fresh thinking of 1787. These chapters could have been better argued. There are some errors of fact and, more important, Yoo owes readers a better account of the ambivalence about executive power that still surrounded the presidency after its establishment. It was the least republican office in the new government, and the one position that most of the Constitution’s framers, with the exception of Alexander Hamilton, struggled to comprehend. How it would operate once Washington served a term or two was a mystery that no one in 1789 could decipher.

Going through past presidents, beginning with the first “GW”, there’s nothing at all “unprecedented” about the 43rd president’s exercise of executive authority.

and then there’s Geoffrey R. Stone’s “Perilous Times: Free Speech in Wartime from the Sedition Act of 1798 to the War on Terrorism.”

Max Boot:

It tells how John Adams jailed a congressman for criticizing his “continual grasp for power.” How Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and had the army arrest up to 38,000 civilians suspected of undermining the Union cause. How Woodrow Wilson imprisoned Socialist Party leader Eugene Debs for opposing U.S. entry into World War I. And how Franklin D. Roosevelt consigned 120,000 Japanese Americans to detention camps.

You can also read about how presidents from FDR to Richard Nixon used the FBI to spy on, and occasionally blackmail and harass, their political opponents. The Senate’s Church Committee in 1976 blew the whistle on decades of misconduct, including FBI investigations of such nefarious characters as Eleanor Roosevelt, William O. Douglas, Barry Goldwater and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

All you have to do is recite this litany of excess to realize the absurdity of the cries of impeachment coming from the loonier precincts of the left. Muttering about “slippery slopes” isn’t enough to convince most people that fascism is descending. If the president’s critics want that part of the nation that doesn’t read the Nation to believe that he’s a threat to our freedom, they’d better do more than turn up the level of vituperation. They’d better find some real victims — the Eugene Debses and Martin Luther Kings of the war on terror.

Civil libertarians thought they were in luck when a college student in Massachusetts claimed that two FBI agents had shown up to interview him after he had requested a copy of Mao Tse-tung’s Little Red Book. Ted Kennedy cited this incident to warn of the Patriot Act’s “chilling effect on free speech and academic freedom.” Relax, Senator. Free speech is safe. The student lied.

The anti-Bush brigade hasn’t had any luck in turning up actual instances of abuse, despite no end of effort. The ACLU compiled a list of supposed victims of the Patriot Act. After examining each case, however, Sen. Dianne Feinstein — no friend of the administration — said “it does not appear that these charges rose to the level of ‘abuse.’ “

C’mon…Bush is a saint.

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@StageRt…you said:

“If the Health Care Bill and Adjustment Bill pass, these are the items the Republicans will have to convince the American people are bad:”

Things like the fact that taxes go up immediately and the vast, vast majority of the benefits don’t kick in for four years?

Hmmm, tell you what StageRt. I got a bridge I’ll sell you. You have to start paying me for it NOW, but I won’t give it to you for four more years…

I’m done with this drone. No matter how many of us throw facts at him/her, they just keep coming back with crap and trying to pass it off as fact. You can polish a turd, but its still a turd.

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Oh, Skagway to Whitehorse, Saskatchewan? If such a place existed, would have been at least 2500 miles by the roads that existed back then, a pretty good sneak, even for the the Mad Trapper of Rat River. Of course putting Whitehorse in the Yukon Territories ( not Terrorists) blunts the effect of the story quite a bit. Being one of the most experienced with the Canadian medical system at least that of BC, I will write an article on the efficiency of said system after I eat dinner and have another glass of Cabernet. It may surprise you, not that my articles don’t surprise you all that much.

I will title it, A Conservative in A Socialist Quagmire, you can guess on how it will read.

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