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@MataHarley: As you know, the Alinsky tactic is to create the smoke then have useful idiots like Ivan shout “FIRE.”

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@Ivan: But I’ve learned a lot about her since 2008’s election. She’s only resigned in disgrace under ethics charges in 2009 and endorsed McCain against a great conservative JD Hayworth.

I really haven’t been following this thread, nor your comments, Ivan. Frankly not big enough of an issue to be triaged to the top for me. In the interest of at least one “on topic” comment, I have this to say. There’s a world of difference between dependence upon teleprompters… even for an elementary school audience or meeting briefing… vs a brief outline to keep a speech flowing from subject to subject as planned. Most public speakers have a base subject outline so that you don’t stray too far from a cogent presentation. It’s another thing to have every “uh” printed out for you on teleprompters. For the most part, Obama’s just not that quick a thinker on his feet without TOTUS. Apparently that soaring rhetoric doesn’t come naturally, or is the result of his speech writer with pretty phrasing, but empty messages. So Obama’s dependence is understandable since he speaks some one elses words.

INRE Palin, I have mixed feelings about her as a Presidential candidate. Would I vote for her over Obama? In a heartbeat. Most elections generally boil down to the lesser evil. Is she my top pick for a nominee? Not as of today. Nor do I think the less-than-enthralled GOP would pick her. But then I’m not bowled over by anyone on the landscape yet, and it’s early.

Despite your accusations of “dumb”, or some nefarous power motivation, her political record of accomplishments… from mayor to governer… have more positive than negative effects on Alaskans and belie such emotional and unbased charges. It just so happens that, like Obama, Palin tends to bring out extreme emotions in people.

With that qualifier, I will now say what I entered this thread to impart. Apparently what you have learned about Palin’s legal battles since the 2008 would fit on a pinhead. Obviously your education didn’t include any indepth research on the Alaskan complaint system, the costs to the taxpayers, or the complaint specifics. Not only did I do complete research on TrooperGate, but even more extensive research into the complaints, and the political threads for revenge that bind those that brought them.

This is found in the Trials and Tribulations of Palin category, with my Alinksky Perfected series. The first three are the stories of the individual complaints, with updates for the remaining five of the series.

My suggestion is that you read them, as most the regulars here have done, so that you cease bringing your spit wad straw to a gun fight. But in case you can only absorb headlines, I’ll summarize for you:

Following TrooperGate in July 2008, and riding the coattails of this so called “scandal”, a relatively small and tight knit group of dissidents filed a flurry of 18 complaints between Aug 2008 and April 2009. Had Palin not resigned, I’m quite sure they would have continued, as they made an attempt at one more even in her last two days of Governor. It too was quickly dismissed as frivolous.

The first of these was TrooperGate, and the only one where a legislative investigation attempted to seize the power of the Alaskan complaint system for their political body. That ran in tandem with the formal complaint thru the AG’s office, where ethic complaints are handled via Alaskan law. TrooperGate sidbars translated into two more complaints of the 18 that also went no where.

Four of the remaining 15 complaints were filed by one individual who was a disgruntled bypassed appointee and a member of the previous governor’s admin. Another complaint was filed by an individual who used a fake name of a British soap opera character. That one was the shortest lived. Another was upset she campaigned for GA Senate candidate Chambliss. Apparently he forgot that while the Governor was traveling, she was also multitasking for gubernatorial duties, and needed a staffer with her for that reason. It was not a surprise to find that this frivolous complaint was filed by a guy who hung regularly on the Mudflats site… ass deep in the complaint mud herself, so aptly named… and felt he needed to do his part in wasting the Alaskan taxpayers’ cash.

The anti-Palin’s types tried to celebrate and conflate truth when Palin was found to reimburse a few thousand dollars in expenses. However, as the investigator stated, the Alaskan laws were vague on what were considered expenses, and recommended that the laws be modified with clarification. Palin just paid the expenses in question rather than waiting for a legal clarification via legislative action. They were such that she could have challenged them, but opted not to. No reprimand or penalties were issued because the flaw was not of Palin’s doing, but of badly written torts. That’s about the best you’re gonna get, Ivan… live with it.

You’ll find that most of the complainers/whiners have threads of contact and relationships because it was, quite simply, a politically motivated campaign to destroy Palin’s credibility. It was, as I titled the series, “Alinsky Perfected” since not only did they isolate demean the target, they did so using the taxpayers’ dime, and didn’t pay a penny out of personal pocket for their efforts.

Brilliant in a demented way… finding a way to run a personal political dirt campaign that is paid for by state residents of all political stripes.

Considering the outcome, it’s quite difficult to resign under “disgrace” when you’ve been exonerated for all the evil accused in the charges. The only ones that keep coming back to revisionist history are the truly uninformed – a category in which you overtly fall when you spout underinformed nonsense about specifics.

However, again as you yourself prove, they caused the damage they set out to do… have the world questioning her credibility.

To accomplish that, you toss as much “mud” you can, and hope something sticks. Even if it doesn’t – as it didn’t with Palin – the soundbyte educated only remember only that the mud was slung. It’s the same as if you, Ivan, were falsely charged of pedophilia. You may be acquitted, but the existence of the charge itself will stick to you wherever you go… despite the findings.

These complaints kept the gubernatorial admin offices so busy complying with investigations. Combined with a constant drain on the taxpayers revenue, it became difficult to accomplish what Alaska needed getting done. Since the Alaskan legislature started it off, doing their own TrooperGate witchhunt, it also made it difficult for the legislative branch to work well with the executive branch. This does not make for a very productive term, or fulfilling promises for those who elected you to office.

This concerted political effort to undermine both the McCain/Palin campaign against Obama/Biden, and Palin herself for the future, remains fueled today by emotional and irrational hatred for an individual. To see what this looks like, just check out a mirror, Ivan. These are symptoms you exhibit yourself, despite your self-proclaime conservative status. Perhaps it’s the greatest backhanded compliment Palin could be paid… she is admired enough to be considered dangerous competition, and therefore must be destroyed.

Personally, I don’t think she had a choice but to resign…. in an odd way fulfilling the quest of those that made the complaints. It’s a win for the Alaskan taxpayers since they stop bleeding unnecessary cash. It’s a win for the nefarious dissidents because their smear campaign didn’t cost them a penny.

But it’s also a win for Palin, because it freed her to fight… something in which she was limited as a serving official. And BTW, they didn’t limit the complaints to the state system, but a few filed lawsuits in court designed specifically to drain the family personally.

Palin had the choice to stay and do the Alaskans great disservice – both fiscally and effectively – or to resign and allow the State to resume working without daily BS distractions. She also had a choice to be limited in her own personal defense, effectively having one hand tied behind her back.

I have no problem with her decision. I think when a politician becomes a drain on the constituents – intentional or not – they are best to step aside. But I do have a great problem with those who have unmitigated hatred for Palin when they are clueless to the facts.

If you don’t like her politics… fine. But to play the Alinsky game, using lies and mistruths about those who share more of your own values than not, is simply to lower yourself to the level of the progressive opposition.

So, Ivan, if you are a conservative, you may wish to examine your own values and attitudes towards other conservatives. I am unimpressed with your rhetoric, and your knowledgebase.

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Ivan, we get that your a purist and you loath Sarah Palin. I’ve let you hijack each thread to spew your hatred for quite some time but it has become redundant and asinine. Either get back to the topic of this thread and every thread you are on or I will consider you a troll and kick you off of here. First and only warning.

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I think Ivan may actually be Robert Gibbs!

case in point:
http://www.leftcoastrebel.com/2010/02/reaction-to-evan-bayhs-retirement.html

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“Nice try, but the simpleton answer doesn’t work with me.”

I’ve been following the back-and-forth here for a few days now without comment, but Ivan, it appears that no answer works with you. “Simpleton” or otherwise.

You appear to have decided prior to blessing FA with your presence, wit, and wisdom, that your mind will not ever be changed on any subject, with any “style” of answer.

You have come here merely for your fun and amusement, not dialog, not meaningful debate, but just to poke the bears with a sharp stick, hoping they get angry so you can laugh.

Troll.

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She resigned because unlike the other 56 (Obama) states Alaska has a citizen based inquiry system that allows them, anyone, to file complaints against anyone in the state government. This law does not allow the state to pick up all of the cost to the person being charged so both the victim and the state are out of pocket

Wow, you read that off a script?

There is this provision in the law called a “legal defense fund.” It’s used by politicians all the time. It wouldn’t have cost her and her husband anything other than setting it up.

Also, Palin, the dummy, is the one set up this complaint system. Talk about stupid!

Nice try, but the simpleton answer doesn’t work with me.

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I’ll tell you why she quit but like the little girl asking her Dad why the sky is blue ,you will retort with another non truth. She resigned because unlike the other 56 (Obama) states Alaska has a citizen based inquiry system that allows them, anyone, to file complaints against anyone in the state government. This law does not allow the state to pick up all of the cost to the person being charged so both the victim and the state are out of pocket. Palin said that after the election that her staff was using half of many work day just to answer or write a report to the AG’s office. If you remember that one of the last complaints she received was wearing a parka with a company logo on it. She was charged with using state e-mail for private purposes, for using state time to answer questions from the MSM while in the capital bldg. The list was endless and she knew that she could never be effective as Governor again. Some would call her resignation altruistic towards her state and their welfare but I bet you are not one of them. Sorta like Slick Willy who said I’ll leave office when they pry it from my cold dead hands. No Ivan, you have a burr up your ass and no amount of info will dislodge it. Write all you want but there is no one here that gives a rats ass what you think.

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@Ivan: If the ethics charges weren’t frivolous then why were they all dismissed?

You’re not fooling anyone you Obama lover.

Wow, that’s a new low for you Mike, something I’m sure your’e accustomed to though. You took my quote and changed it!

Typical Palin supporter. Can’t win the argument so stoop to lying or misquoting.
Here is my original quote:

I’ll ask it again, if the charges were “frivolous”, why did she resign?

Don’t let truth and being honest get in the way of character assasination though Mike, you’re a Palin supporter.

PS Why did she resign? So simple a question.

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@Ivan: If the ethics charges weren’t frivolous then why were they all dismissed?

You are such a Moron!

You’re not fooling anyone you Obama lover.

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