Should convicted felons be given a second chance? Barack Obama thinks so, and he thinks the tax payers should have to foot the bill. He made his view on this issue more than evident during a town hall meeting in Elyria, Ohio on January 22nd. Here is a excerpt from this Ohio town hall meeting, where a 29 year old felon who has never had a job in his life asks Obama if he will help felons get a job.
Jerome the felon asks Obama:
“I’m 29 years old, and I’ve never had a job in my life. I went to jail when I was younger. It’s like hard to get a job as a felon. Is this — any programs that hire people with felonies like something that — because it’s sad, it’s like — 29 years old, I’m 29.”
Obama Answers Jerome:
“Look, I’m proud of the fact that you’re bringing this up because there are people who’ve made mistakes, particularly when they’re young, and it is in all of our interests to help them redeem themselves and then get on a straight path. Now, I don’t blame employers obviously for being nervous about hiring somebody who has a record. It’s natural if they’ve got a lot of applicants for every single job that that’s a question that they’d have in their minds. On the other hand, I think one of the great things about America is we give people second chances.
And so what we’ve tried to do — and I want to say, this has been a bipartisan effort — when I was in the Senate, working with Sam Brownback; my Vice President, Joe Biden — passing a Second Chance Act that helps to fund programs that help the reintegration of ex-felons.
It’s smart for us to do. You know, sometimes people say, well, that’s just coddling people. No; you reduce the recidivism rate, they pay taxes, it ends up being smart for taxpayers to do.”
Shame on Jerome, if he really wanted a job he could get one. He is playing the victim card. In reality he is only a victim of his own bad decisions. Taxpayers already pay for convicts to be in prison, now Obama wants us to pay to get them a job? Don’t get me wrong, I believe everyone(well, almost everyone) deserves a second chance, but it is not the responsibility of everyone else to provide that second chance.
Now before you start sending me nasty emails saying “you are stupid, and you just don’t understand how hard it is for felons to get a job.” Please allow me to stray from the beaten path for a moment and tell you a bit about my own experience.
I am a convicted felon. Five felonies to be exact. I spent the later part of my teenage years (15-19 years old) as a drug addict. Between ages 18 – 19, I lived out of the back of an Oldsmobile, and skipped around from job to job (i kept getting fired for some odd reason, hmm) to raise money for my heroin habit. I continued this pattern of living until I was finally arrested, charged with 9 felonies, convicted of 5 felonies, and sentenced to 1 year and 2 months in prison. One day, as I was sitting in my cell, I thought to myself, “this isn’t the life I want. I want something better, and I’m going to get.” So I made a plan for what I was going to do when I got out, and I decided to use my time in there wisely by educating myself. I started studying college algebra, then moved on to calculus and finally computer science. I also applied for college while I was in prison, so I could attend as soon as I got out. My release day came, and guess what, I went out and got a job flipping burgers the next day.
I worked the early shift at my new job . Public buses didn’t run that early in the morning(in VA, if you receive a felony conviction you lose your license), so I walked to work, 5 miles, every morning. When my shift was over, I hoped on a bus, and went to the local community college to take a couple of classes. When I got out of class the buses weren’t running so I walked home, 4 miles, every night. This process repeated everyday for 9 months until I finally saved up enough money to pay off all of my court costs, and go through all of the red tape required to get my license back. When I finally got my license and my car back, I went out searching for a new, better job. I found 2 jobs. Who would have thought that a convict could get 2 jobs (Jerome couldn’t seem to find 1 in 29 years). I met a wonderful girl at one of these jobs, and we eventually got hitched! Fast forward 4 years and I am happily married, the proud owner of a brand new home, 6.5 years sober, have a good job, and I am almost done with a bachelors degree in computer science (I pay my own way through school, so I only take as many classes as I can afford).
I told you this story to tell you this. I know it is hard to get a job if you are a felon. I do understand. However, if you are a felon, you are not a victim of society, you are a victim of your actions. It is not the responsibility of tax payers to provide you with a second, it is your responsibility. In the United States there are infinite possibilities for a second chance, but you have to go out and get it. It will not come to you. Don’t let your criminal record hold you back, use it as a lesson in life. If you work hard, pursue your dreams, and strive to be a good citizen, good things will happen. That is the beauty of liberty and freedom, you have every opportunity to pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and get on the right track in life. How could you not love a country that has allowed a drug addicted, homeless convict to become a sober, homeowner, with a beautiful wife, and lives the American dream everyday. God Bless America!
Crossposted from Liberty and Pride
Hey guys. I’m a convicted felon and I’m currently attending a four-year University. I was convicted of a violent felony seven years ago and decided to change my life by going to college. I’ve been trying to find information about the impediment of a conviction. I’m almost done with college and it would be a shame to have wasted five years of my life and almost $20,000 of my money to find out that I’m not able to get a job. I told one of my professors about my conviction and he told me to contact the Director of Career Services. Here is what she wrote me:
Hi Daniel,
I talked to some colleagues and it appears that there’s really no set process or policy used by organizations regarding background checks or on set policies for hiring those with a felony conviction. Everyone said be honest and upfront when/if asked (on an application, in an interview, etc.), but you are under no obligation to bring it up if not asked. The consensus is the most employers these days are performing criminal background checks, but when varies (sometimes before an offer is made, sometimes after). It appeared that time from conviction can matter (i.e., the longer ago the incident, the better), as does the type of offense, but there’s nothing across the board that would automatically bar you from employment.
Below is what I found from two different sources regarding employers acting on/setting policies regarding applicants with criminal backgrounds:
Recently, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (“EEOC”) issued guidance regarding the steps employers must take to avoid liability. The EEOC advises employers to undertake three steps in determining whether to screen out a candidate with a criminal conviction.
1.The employer must consider the nature and gravity of the offense.
2.The employer must consider the length of time that has passed since the conviction.
3.The employer must consider the relationship of the conviction to the particular duties and responsibilities of the job in question.
Private Employment
Asking job applicants to indicate whether they have been convicted of a crime is permissible but Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 appears to restrict an employer’s ability to use criminal background information in the hiring process (42 USC. § 2000e, et seq. ). The Equal Employment Opportunities Commission (EEOC), the federal agency that enforces Title VII, has decided that disqualifying people who have criminal records from jobs is discriminatory because the practice disproportionately affects African American and Hispanic men. (Those two groups have much higher criminal conviction rates than do Caucasian men. )The EEOC has ruled repeatedly that covered employers cannot simply bar felons from consideration, but must show that a conviction-based disqualification is justified by “business necessity. ” The legal test requires employers to examine the (1) nature and gravity of the offense or offenses, (2) length of time since the conviction or completion of sentence, and (3) nature of the job held or sought. Under this test, employers must consider the job-relatedness of a conviction, the circumstances of the offense, and the number of offenses (EEOC Compliance Manual, § 604 Appendices).
DanK
HI,
THANK YOU for that info, very useful for many to know they have rights they can debate with employers who hired them and come back after to tell the employee they have found a conviction which the employee did not have to mentioned because he was not ask of it, it give them a fair explanation to argue and keep their job most likely. you brought other good points to study, depending the issue at the table,
young AMERICANS KEEP YOUR HEAD HIGH AND PROUD DON’T LET ONE OR MORE BUSYNESS OWNER TO BREAK YOUR SPIRIT, you have paid your price, you have lost precious time because of your fall,
now you are ready to join the market, keep yourself inform and alert of where the market is best for you.
don’t get a lazy minute stop your future success, may GOD HELP YOU , AND DON’T FORGET HIM ,
HE LIKE TO BE ASK FOR HELP.
my name is eric im a ex felon went to jail for selling drugs got out in 2001 whent in 1996 anway i tryed to get some help from the state of ca, but they would not help me they told me that i went to jail for drugs and i can not get money food stamps are med help.thats the law here in ca,but if u rob kill rape steal you can get money food stamps med help. wit the help of G–D i have not been back i started my own bis and i dont sell drugs. What im tryn to say to my bro and sis that r ex felons dont blame mr.obama he is doin the best he can .LET US CONCENTRATE AND BE HEARD IN A CONSITTUIONAL WAY BY WRITING TO THE CONGRESS
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best to you
????? My record don’t seem bad but it is . Been looking for a job in Houston for three years now. never went to prison but have 4 minor weed charges in a unlawful weapon charge that I told the officer that I have a weapon in the car so it was a minor case. Was let go from a job I thought I will have for a long time because of the change of the owner that do a re-background check an told employee that the company had to let me go because of the minor charges I had on my record. Since 2006 I had a good paying job. All because my young fun twenties, now 31 have a B.S. degree thinking that would help but the minor weed cases still have a big effect in my life. Company’s say 3yrs some say 7yrs how can a person feed their family’s? Today I went to a interview for a project management position the interview went well but they sent me to another company that do pre- employee screening. Told them about my past the truth hoping that it would work.
????? My record don’t seem bad but it is . Been looking for a job in Houston for three years now. never went to prison but have 4 minor weed charges in a unlawful weapon charge that I told the officer that I have a weapon in the car so it was a minor case. Was let go from a job I thought I will have for a long time because of the change of the owner, they did a re-background check an told employees that the company had to let me and some others, because of the minor charges I had on my record. Since 2006 I had a good paying job. All because my young fun twenties, now 31 have a B.S. degree thinking that would help but the minor weed cases still have a big effect in my life. Company’s say 3yrs some say 7yrs how can a person feed their family’s? Today I went to a interview for a project management position the interview went well but they sent me to another company that do pre- employee screening. Told them about my past the truth hoping that it would work. Why people have the right to bring up minor cases in use it against you they put you up there with the killer, selling killer drugs, rape, just major stuff. I see yes the employers should be alert about that. Still trying to stay focus never know smoking weed with ruin a person finance in life and making everybody know that you smoke weed or use too….
Chucky
I hope it work for you this time, some of them pedants self center thugs, think they are the angels
and nothing can be redeem in life until their turn come, that’s when they discover how coward they are,
keep your head up, you are a proud AMERICAN, and nothing can take that away from you,
your time will come to find the place for you to belong, try to deal with an older leader of a company,
they have live more years, and might understand you more.
best to you, check the comment above,it might just help, don’t leave out anything that can help.
Chucky
I’m thinking of this important clue for you, if you get to feel too down sometimes just go visit a wounded military, well you don’t have to wait till you down either, they will show you a lot of wisdom without even saying a word, and you can even take a habit to go as often as you want, it will lift you up
so high than you ever expected, it will give you strenght to cope,
those warriors went to hell and survived they can teach a lot more than any university. and that goes for anyone here.
best to you
Hey guys,
I found an interesting article on Linkedin.com:
Here’s something for all to think about: Does Diversity Training include (Dare I Say It)…. Ex-Felons?? What do you think??
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Heres-something-all-think-about-56579.S.53373928
Still focus!!!! like I said never that I though that smoking weed will effect my life… It stopping me from a job that I went four years in college to do as a career in it still on my background as age 14 having fun is ruining my life some people cant afford to pay a good lawyer to fight their cases so they took anything just to get it over with. Also its discrimination, because if the employer didn’t know about their pass history they will have a better chance of getting that job they were applying for. (BET YOU ON THAT) MY records isn’t major at all but I still didn’t land the job because I went to the county jail…. I’m 31yrs so I have to wait until I’m 41yrs old to get the job I’ve study for? How can I pay my student loans back? Did I go to school for nothing? I have kids now back than I have no kids how can I support my family? trying to teach them the right way… My wife is the bread winner in my house how can I look at her everyday? all because of my mistake my kids have to deal with this. N why does minor cases stays on your record? visiting people will not help my finance problems, but to clearing my record can. No job gets me traffic tickets because of insurance because I cant pay to get one now driving with no good licence. How can I get out of this madness?
Chucky
check with the above link for help on your questions, on 304
are you willing to move in another STATES? GET IN TOUCH WITH NORTH DAKOTA,
THEY HIRE ON JOBS FOR OIL, IF YOU SUBMIT ALL YOUR PLUS QUALIFICATIONS,
AND YOUR CONVICTIONS, AND YOUR TOTAL , COMITEMENT TO A POSITION THEY MIGHT HAVE FOR YOU, SEND IT BY MAIL, DIRECTLY TO THE TOP GUY, and mentionned your anxiety from you above comment, and how you tried and was block for that minor x year old error, tell everything, don’t leave out anything, show them my answer here,
I like them and I know they are looking for the commited workers, ready for any job along your expertise
even if you have to start from the first step of the ladder, they have something other companies don’t have, THAT IS A HEART, TELL THEM I love them
I am ex-felon and have been working for the federal government for 9 years doing outstanding job. I have been applying for the promotion and have applied for 8 positions and was not selected. Finally, I filed a formal EEO complaint. After 2 years, during settlement agency representatiove says that becuase she is ex-felon, we can not give her promotion. We don’t trust her. Any suggestions?
I am ex-felon and have been working for the federal government for 9 years doing outstanding job. I have been applying for the promotion and have applied for 8 positions and was not selected. Finally, I filed a formal EEO complaint. After 2 years, during settlement agency representatiove says that becuase she is ex-felon, we can not give her promotion. We don�t trust her. Any suggestions? I need sugesstions immediately.
anonymous
you are one lucky to work,, yes you run in to persons with a certain power they feel they have to impose
on other,, there are a lot in this GOVERNMENT IN POWER NOW,
I hear one lawyer is paying handicap person to get into commerce and take a picture or complaining to not have adequate room to maneuver even if it’s false, and the lawyer come in to charge that busyness with a long process of costly fees to fight his side, until the busyness person offer money to settle without charge and the lawyer name an amount of a few thousand which is paid by the busyness man,
that is one of many intimidation from the GOVERNMENT IN POWER DISHONESTY,
I think you better wait till after all this change course in NOVEMBER SO TO HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO GET WHERE YOU ARE AIMING FOR, WITH A NEW IMPARTIAL GOVERNMENT WHO WILL REPRESENT ALL AMERICANS OF GOOD WILL
BEST TO YOU.
That sounds like legal crime to me. Extortion at least. We go to jail for that, but attorneys get off of the hook. Perhaps this November power will be restored to where it belongs and that is to the people.
@anonymous: My suggestion is it’s not where you came from it’s where you are at that counts. You would think if you want less crime, reward those who were once in trouble and are truely repentant. That would send a message of hope for those who took a wrong road in life. Why cast these human beings aside. The bible says, there is no one in this world who is without sin. The self righteous in government seem to think they are God, yet they are the most evil amongst us.
@Chucky: Chucky, I don’t know why they are so hard on Pot smokers. There are things in this world that are so much more evil, and yet it is legal, almost a constitution right, it’s called abortion. Sodomy used to be crime, now it’s celebrated as a civil right. Politicians say that Pot leads to the hard drugs. I dissagree with that, it begins with alcohol which they bless. They are only cutting their own throats when it comes to holding grudges for people who made one wrong turn in life. I know God has forgiven me, it’s satan the accuser of the brethren who brings up our past. I moved on and stayed at my job for 20 years. Many people around me get laid off, but God has found favor with me. He gave me the skills that no damn government can take from me. Remember you are a child of God, and if he forgives you that means you are free. God will open doors that people say no way. I’m living proof that my past means nothing, and my future is bright because of what he has done for me on the cross. If you want to see how far you can go with a criminal record look no further than George W Bush. He was convicted of drunken driving, yet rose above that black mark in his life and became a great pesident, a respected man. He is a man of God, and God forgave him.
One day pot will be legal then what are they going to say? Pot is nothing more than a plant, compared to other crimes it is the least of them.
Chill
hi, yes and the lawyer was confronted with the same question, he said it was to protect
the handicaps, but he could not answer to the the extortion question,
weird people pretending to follow the laws as a lawyer of that kind see it,
bye
I am an ex-felon and been out on parole for a violent crime for 13 years, and have not had a crime on the records for over 30 years now. I am still not forgiven, only by Jesus, by society. I am raising 5 beautiful children, and want to go back to work from a disability since 2003. I have so much to give back, but noone wants it, so I give my all to the Lord. Where can I find work to support my wife and 5 children? I wish all of you other felons best wishes from a brother in Christ Jesus.
Thats all good for you but just because that worked good for you doesnt mean it will for the next man. I have a bad record plus 3 kids so even if I worked 3 minimum wage jobs all at onece child support would take all my money and id have no where to live or money to do anything. I hustle to survive and I hate living like thi. I made dumb mistakes when I was a kid. Ive been to temp agencies and no one calls back. I had a job at kfc and was training to be a manager but once my background check came back they told me all I could do is stay a crew memeber. I just got my diploma last year but how does that help me when I cant get a decent job. Fast food cant pay all my bills so im forced to keep breaking the law which is unfair. There need to be some type of program or something. I know its my own damn fault but there could be alot of things that are done differently.
jason
ah geez what is there if you get caught breaking the law, your family will be so sad without you to help them grow up, is there a way for you to live these difficult years without breaking the law,
is there a way to fix your budget according to your only other jobs, it is the outmost importance for you to cut some expanse and cut that illegal action, what is it anyway, DRUG?
don’t you see you must,you have no options, now let see what you can cut on your budget,
you think you cannot survive without the illegal action , I say you can, if you think hard enough,
your fore fathers surely had to do it at time when thing are hard, did they resort to an illegal job to supply? no they did not, now let see what you cut along with that illegal job,
do you smoke? do you drink pop? can you drop on your hobby for a time that your children grow up,
can you cut in transportation not important,? can you cut on clothing?
a bit here and there, less butter on the table, make your meals instead of buying already made food,
save on laundry, wait till you get a bigger load, think and find little bit of cutting in many of your life
for the sake of having your children with you,and you’ll have peace if you are not breaking the law,
and you know what there is the wonderful law of the ” UNEXPECTED THINGS WHICH COME”
to fill the empty holes.
best to you.
Hey guys,
I found another interesting article on a felon that changed his life around:
Employment falls fast in US if men get college degree
http://www.menhealthwizard.com/unemployment-falls-fast-in-us-if-men-get-college-degree/
Hey everyone, check out this story i found of an ex-felon creating change and a 2nd chance around the country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvllBHEfuM0&feature=autoshare
David
Right, i hope people realize that this article was intended to bash felons in a sense. However the idiot that wrote this article didnt know that so many kind hearted felons would be reading this.
My comments in reference to the article are:
Dont take apart a watch without knowing how to put it back together. So many good people are convicted its unbelievable. USA has the highest incarceration RATE in the entire world by far. Look it up. Convicts need to, get in with a civil liberties group, STAND UP, and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! This is The United States of America. You people should be doing everything you can to impose moral values, and bring the United States Constitution back to it original state. Fight for what you believe in. AND STOP with this mentality that your own actions did this to you. Thats a cowards talk.
Hey James you couldn’t be more right. Just because one person or however many people can change their lives for the better, doesn’t mean that his or her circumstances apply to all. Regardless of what the article writer says, it is never a matter as simple as “IF HE WANTED A JOB HE COULD GET ONE” or “HE IS ONLY A VICTIM OF HIS OWN BAD DECISIONS” . Sounds a little self righteous if you ask me. Not that we don’t appreciate the fact that this person was able to maintain a positive lifestyle/attitude while simultaneously moving forward to a better job and a family life. THAT’S GREAT!!!!Good for those people. We should all applaud their efforts and the net results. We should use their actions as examples of possible routes to follow. But DON’T EVER BELIEVE THE HYPE THAT THE INFINITE STREAM OF POST RELEASE JUDGEMENT-PREJUDICE-DISCRIMINATION-FEAR-HATRED-ETC….ETC… IS WHAT YOU DESERVE TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE OF BAD DECISIONS FROM YOUR PAST. —HOW LONG MUST A PERSON PAY FOR THEIR PAST?! WHEN IS YOUR DEBT FINALLY PAYED?!
If you’ve served your time in prison and made a conscious decision to completely change for the best, then yes James, it is time to “STAND UP and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!”.
John
yes, but the society has been induce in thinking that felons are outcast forever,HOW MANY MULTI MILLIONS
they SOCIETY are so full of themselves that they outcast deliberetly the felons putting them all in the same stew, and it start at the top of the chain, THE STATES GOVERNORS THE FEDERALS HIGH PROFILES IN POSITIONS TO HELP DRAGGING THEIR FEET, THEN THE BIG AND SMALL COMPANIES THE BIG POWERFUL
WEB MOGULS KEEPING MEMORY FOR EVER, SPECIALY THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE SOURCES
OF DEMEANING THE FELONS, THEN YOU COME DOWN TO THE SECOND HANDLERS THOSE IN HIRING STAFF WHO ARE NOT BEING CHECKED AND SINGLE HANDLE THE DECISIONS OF SHUNNING THE ONE WITH THE MARK ON THEM EVEN MINOR EVEN FAR DOWN THE ONLY ONE WILL BE SET UNDER,
NO NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO BRAIN , NO SKILLS IT IS TAKING 3RD AND 4RTH INCENTIVE
BECAUSE OF THE STUPID PERSON HIRING WITH HIS OR HER MINDSET,
THERE IS THE VILLAINS MUCH MORE EVIL THAN THE FELON, WHO MANY HAVE THE SKILLS TO MAKE A COMPANY PROSPER NO THAT PERSON TAKING YOU RESUME IS NOT GIVING YOU A CHANCE,
THERE IS THE CUT THROAT THAT SHOULD BE REPLACE AND FAST, BECAUSE HE SHE IS NOT TAKING THE COMPANY INTEREST,
BYE
Hi,
My Name is Caddy and my boyfriend is a felon and he’s 21. He was arrested for robbery at 19 and he can’t even get an apartment lease in his name. We live in Florida, I really like him but at the same time I’m also thinking about my future. I want a man that will be able to provide for me an my potential family someday. I don’t want a guy that won’t have a proper job and will always be traveling with menial jobs. I value my education a lot and I would really like for him to go to school or maybe get a proper education to become successful. If anyone has any suggestions or knows of any places in Fl that hire felons or lucrative jobs you can obtain as a felon I would appreciate it. For example, can you be a lawyer and a felon? A Doctor and a felon? An engineer and a felon? A chef and a felon ? Would it be best for him to go to a trade school? Someone please help. Thank you.
Caddy
hi,
it will be an obstacle for you to surmount, it will depend on how your love is for him no matter what or with your reason which you have put to words, thinking of your future children care , which will need it.
the thing that come in mind if you decide that he is worthy of being in your future, because you know mistakes happen at a young ages, and if he learn from it and use it on a positive goal to keep from trouble,
he might be even better than the innocent one who never sin, but just might.
so if you set your mind to be in busyness one day and prepare now to figure what
you are gifted to excel on at a certain time when you will be ready, mentally and financely, although we all begin to begin, not begin by getting rich right at the instant, you will have to strive and be patient,
and prepare by using all the tools at your disposition, don’t be afraid to ask answers to your question,
and your friend would be helping by coming in with his gifted expertise too,
it’s feaseble, best of luck
and keep planning for that
Caddy,
Shame on you for having these prostitution thoughts. You like your boyfriend, but you want him to make a lot of money. Sorry, but I was also arrested for robbery when I was 19 and now I’m 30 with a master’s degree and I can’t find a job that requires even a bachelor’s degree because of my felony. I graduated with a 3.7 Grade Point Average (which put me in the top 10% of my class). I have numerous references from professors, but I still can’t get a job that requires a bachelor’s degree. I went to about literally a 1,000 employers over the past eight years. Sure, your boyfriend can be anything he wants to be in a sense. He can get accepted to colleges if he has the grades. But, it is most likely that he will never be able to get a job that requires college education. Becoming a lawyer? He won’t be able to get accepted for a law license. A doctor? Hell, he won’t even be able to get into medical school. An engineer? Maybe a technical engineer, but no major engineering company hires felons. A chef? Yeah, if he wants to make $30,000 a year. The best way for him to go is to get accepted into a trade union. It’s very difficult, but he will be able to make $50,000+ a year excluding benefits. Another good idea is for him to dump you. I went out with gold diggers like you and as soon as they found out that I had a felony, they dumped me. Thank god I found the girl that I’m with now that I ended up marrying. She accepts me for who I am.
SweetJohn
oh, this is so tragic, a real waste of brains and knowledge, lost for society, there are SOME MILITARY WHO WENT TO WAR AND ARE GETTING KILLED WHILE YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR FUN PLAYING WITH UNLAWFULL ACTIONS, WHO DO YO YOU THINK YOU ALL WHERE AT THE TIME A BIG INFLATED FROG?
lost for AMERICA, BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPIDITY, YOU SEE IT NOW, YOU SUFFER FROM IT NOW,
WHY NOT BEFORE YOU DID IT, I WANT THE YOUNG READING YOUR COMMENT TO GET IT GOOD BEFORE THEY ACT LIKE SMART IDIOTS, THEY SHOULD KNOW THE GOVERNMENT WONT HELP THEM GET OUT OF TROUBLE HW MANY 30 THOUSANDS OF YOU ALL, BEING REPLACE BY FOREIGNERS IN YOUR OWN AMERICA, IT IS APPAWLING,
IT’S OKAY LET ME SCOLD YOU GOOD, NOW YOU WANT TO USE YOUR SKILL, YOUR KNOWLEDGE, 8 YEARS LOST,
WHAT A PUNISHMENT, IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN WORK OTHER THAN THOSE PLACES YOU VISITED,
ARE YOU STILL LOOKING? DON’T GIVE UP, IT MIGHT BE COMING WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT,
at least you found a treasure in your wife the love is so important to make it till you find something
I hope you do,
best to you both.
I know why everyone on here can’t find jobs. From the way you write, half of you sound like you have an eighth grade education.
Sweet John
hi, check the 324 DAVID CONLEY AND TAKE A TOUR OD NORTH DAKOTA ON THE RIGHT BAND
FOR JOBS, IF YOU WANT WORK AND TAKE A JOB THERE YOU JUST GET THERE AND ASK THEY NEED PEOPLE FOR ALL KINDS OF JOBS, YOU GO GET IT, AND IF IT DOESN’T MATCH YOU DEGREE SO WHAT YOU ALREADY SPEND 8 YEARS FOR IT, SO GET DOWN YOUR HIGH HORSE AND GO THERE TO WORK,
YOU’LL BE LEARNING SOMETHING WHICH MIGHT LEAD YOU TO WHAT YOUR EXPERTISE IS,
EVENTUALY IF YOU CAN START BY THE FIRST STEP WHICH IS TO HAVE A JOB,
BEST TO YOU
So I went to prison right. I moved to another state and I received a violation. When I went in front of the judge he stated on the record that since I did not have a criminal record I would have to represent myself. Everytime I apply for a job and it asks if Im a felon I just check no. Whenever they run me through LexisNexis and they question my background I submit a ton of evidence against them and say I never lied. Now when my background is ran there’s just a marijuana violation. Try to find a stupid judge and run with it.
Timothy Leary
is that the same judge who help you, the one you call stupid?
is it? tell us
My husband got convicted of armed robbery at 17 years old, he was tried as an adult and got a 20 year sentence. He served 5 years and the rest of it he was paroled his parole was shortened. He is now 54 years old, so do the math ( 37 years of a clean record, not even a speeding ticket and near perfect credit). He has a minimum wage job that he has had for 24 years because it’s all he can get. His employer knows that and pay’s him the least amount of money he can legally get away with (he works for a church). He graduated from college three years ago with a computer degree. He cannot even get a interview because of his conviction 37 years ago. He is a good man who made a big mistake as a punk teenager served his time in prison, paid his own way through college and is still paying off student loans with an $8.00 hour job ( never misses a payment ) and helps support my 5 kids. We are not on government help of any kind and never have been. He will pay for this the rest of his life and anyone that knows him would trust him with everything they own or love. It is irritating to here people say that they need a second chance, some felons simply need one chance or any chance and will never get that one chance even though they earn it. I think Obama should do something, will he, I doubt it. I am more than sure that my husband would never steal, cheat, lie, kill and would be the best employee any company has ever seen and I would bet my life on it. It’s sad, some of these people have earned the right to an American dream.
Agnus Richards
yes so tragic to read story of struggle to find work in his own grade,
he must have thought of working on his computer at home with contracts from companies,
even if he work for less, it should be more than what he make now,
he could even keep his job for until he is settle,
just thought of mentioning it,
hope the near futur come to be better for your husband who has the courage to work below his
expertises and stick to it keeping his spirit and hope,
he might have a better chance when MITT ROMNEY TAKE OVER AND GET AMERICA ROLLING WITH JOBS,
BEST TO YOU ALL,