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	<title>Comments on: CBO Corrects Itself On Cost Of ObamaCare; Update &#8211; Details On More Bribery From Reid &amp; Co.</title>
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		<title>By: Davey</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260542</link>
		<dc:creator>Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Trooper 
  Thanks for sharing that letter.  May everyone that this Obummercare tears a new one for have the guts to write such a letter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Old Trooper<br />
  Thanks for sharing that letter.  May everyone that this Obummercare tears a new one for have the guts to write such a letter.</p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260499</link>
		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hankster58

Precisely. 

It certainly sounds to be unconstitutional on its face, and one does not need to be an attorney to have that impression. Many of the landmark civil rights laws need reauthorizations. Even Social Security and Medicare needs to be reauthorized every so often. (I think the reauthorizations are done on a 25-year cycle.)

Also, since Obamacare requires substantial changes in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and tax law, those changes are suppose to be dealt with individually. Whether it will happen that way is anyone&#039;s guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@Hankster58</p>
<p>Precisely. </p>
<p>It certainly sounds to be unconstitutional on its face, and one does not need to be an attorney to have that impression. Many of the landmark civil rights laws need reauthorizations. Even Social Security and Medicare needs to be reauthorized every so often. (I think the reauthorizations are done on a 25-year cycle.)</p>
<p>Also, since Obamacare requires substantial changes in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and tax law, those changes are suppose to be dealt with individually. Whether it will happen that way is anyone&#8217;s guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Hankster58</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260498</link>
		<dc:creator>Hankster58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that even &quot;Constitutional&quot;??? Even the Constitution has methods to Amend it etc. Can they legally pass an (almost) &quot;eternal law&quot;???? Is THIS why they are willing to fall on their swords for Reid and Pelosi??? &quot;Die&quot; for the glory of the Reich (left)?? Jesus....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Is that even &#8220;Constitutional&#8221;??? Even the Constitution has methods to Amend it etc. Can they legally pass an (almost) &#8220;eternal law&#8221;???? Is THIS why they are willing to fall on their swords for Reid and Pelosi??? &#8220;Die&#8221; for the glory of the Reich (left)?? Jesus&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DR</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260487</link>
		<dc:creator>DR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KingShamus -

You asked the question: &quot;If the GOP gets control of both chambers of Congress, what can they do to stop this law from being enacted?&quot;

The answer is a one-time opportunity to repeal in 2017. Please refer to a portion of the manager&#039;s amendment found here: http://bit.ly/5Pxgeh 

If the provisions are not repealed, Obamacare is here to stay.

It also addresses that medical rationing would substantially increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@KingShamus -</p>
<p>You asked the question: &#8220;If the GOP gets control of both chambers of Congress, what can they do to stop this law from being enacted?&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer is a one-time opportunity to repeal in 2017. Please refer to a portion of the manager&#8217;s amendment found here: <a href="http://bit.ly/5Pxgeh" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/5Pxgeh</a> </p>
<p>If the provisions are not repealed, Obamacare is here to stay.</p>
<p>It also addresses that medical rationing would substantially increase.</p>
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		<title>By: Hankster58</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260481</link>
		<dc:creator>Hankster58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our biggest hope is Old Troopers comment #6 above..... That &quot;Pee-lousy&quot; &amp; Co. get it and in usual house fashion pack it so full of pork n payoffs that the Senate will have no choice but to &quot;rewrite&quot; most of it.... then back to Pelosi ...then back the Senate.... maybe somewhere in the course of this the nitwits will hear from THEIR bosses, the VOTERS back home, and will think more of &quot;&#039;RE-ELECTION&quot; than Pelosi&#039;s threats..... Hey California!!! You want us to keep bailing you dumb a$$es out??? PROMISE us that the Wicked Witch of the West Pelosi is GONE next election cycle!!! Maybe THAT&#039;S the way... we&#039;ll Bribe California... Just like the DEMOCRATS buy votes!! Boot Pelosi, or when the Right gets back in, you&#039;re goners~~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Our biggest hope is Old Troopers comment #6 above&#8230;.. That &#8220;Pee-lousy&#8221; &#038; Co. get it and in usual house fashion pack it so full of pork n payoffs that the Senate will have no choice but to &#8220;rewrite&#8221; most of it&#8230;. then back to Pelosi &#8230;then back the Senate&#8230;. maybe somewhere in the course of this the nitwits will hear from THEIR bosses, the VOTERS back home, and will think more of &#8220;&#8216;RE-ELECTION&#8221; than Pelosi&#8217;s threats&#8230;.. Hey California!!! You want us to keep bailing you dumb a$$es out??? PROMISE us that the Wicked Witch of the West Pelosi is GONE next election cycle!!! Maybe THAT&#8217;S the way&#8230; we&#8217;ll Bribe California&#8230; Just like the DEMOCRATS buy votes!! Boot Pelosi, or when the Right gets back in, you&#8217;re goners~~~~</p>
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		<title>By: Patvann</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260479</link>
		<dc:creator>Patvann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the list of Tax Hikes the Bill will impose:

http://www.atr.org/news-comprehensive-list-tax-hikes-inbr-a4345#</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Here&#8217;s the list of Tax Hikes the Bill will impose:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atr.org/news-comprehensive-list-tax-hikes-inbr-a4345#" rel="nofollow">http://www.atr.org/news-comprehensive-list-tax-hikes-inbr-a4345#</a></p>
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		<title>By: URI</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260417</link>
		<dc:creator>URI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Trooper, Reagan was right when he said that Conservatives always feel like  it is the Fourth of July and the Democrats always feel like is April 15th! 
The Democrats have to no longer worry about being the laughing stock party but the proud pathetic bunch of Communist lovers.
To all those a@@wholes who voted for Stalinism(aka Hope), enjoy the bolshevik medical rationing when  getting sick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Old Trooper, Reagan was right when he said that Conservatives always feel like  it is the Fourth of July and the Democrats always feel like is April 15th!<br />
The Democrats have to no longer worry about being the laughing stock party but the proud pathetic bunch of Communist lovers.<br />
To all those a@@wholes who voted for Stalinism(aka Hope), enjoy the bolshevik medical rationing when  getting sick!</p>
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		<title>By: The Snooper Report</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260409</link>
		<dc:creator>The Snooper Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;So When Did The Senate Begin Buying Votes?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I know.&#160; The question is a rhetorical one.&#160; Get over it.
Chris  ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><strong>So When Did The Senate Begin Buying Votes?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I know.&nbsp; The question is a rhetorical one.&nbsp; Get over it.<br />
Chris  &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Old Trooper</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/12/20/cbo-corrects-itself-on-cost-of-obamacare/#comment-260403</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>URI, You know that the Supply Side of this alleged &quot;Health Care&quot; Bill is in the fine print and somewhere around page 1,897 in this proposed piece of &quot;legislation&quot;. Similar to the care that Native Americans get under the IHA. &quot;Don&#039;t get sick after April because they are Out of Funding!&quot;

There is no money for expanding the Care Facilities to take on the additional Patient load either.
&quot;Doing More With Less is a Flat Out Lie!&quot; Paying More for Less is closer to the Truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>URI, You know that the Supply Side of this alleged &#8220;Health Care&#8221; Bill is in the fine print and somewhere around page 1,897 in this proposed piece of &#8220;legislation&#8221;. Similar to the care that Native Americans get under the IHA. &#8220;Don&#8217;t get sick after April because they are Out of Funding!&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no money for expanding the Care Facilities to take on the additional Patient load either.<br />
&#8220;Doing More With Less is a Flat Out Lie!&#8221; Paying More for Less is closer to the Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: URI</title>
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		<dc:creator>URI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obamshitcare will number one create a two system. The one where everybody belongs too no matter what because the healthcare money is deducted from your paycheck as long as you have a job. You can visit the public hospitals in Europe and in Latin America(they suck)
If you want to have a better healthcare then you will go in the private sector an pay for a more expensive insurance coverage than before and with less choices. (doctors are currently taking a 30% cut in the biggests hospital in my county).You will have access to the private hospitals.

And then, Doctors will have to take more individuals to take care of at a discount?.  The older will get less medical care compared to the younger ones who are contributing into the system. ECON 101: There is no such a thing as a free luch!

Number two, this Obamashitcare will dump old retirees to absorbe a new group of illegal inmigrants into the system. The funny thing is that when we say Illegals, we think of Mexicans. My friends, the new group of inmigrants that are coming are Africans and Muslims like our President and the Hispanics are going to be tossed under the Obama bus too.

When Obama decided to void an inmigration law that prohibited people with HIV to get visas to the USA? Which group was he thinking off? And when he said America is no longer a Christian nation...it was aimed at describing his future Islamination of America.

The Congress and the Senate members should be prosecuted for corruption. The American people have spoken and they are against this communist system of health care rationing.

To people that want free housing, education, health care, take a boat  and go 90 miles south of Miami, Florida and enjoy it. The cost: your freedom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The Obamshitcare will number one create a two system. The one where everybody belongs too no matter what because the healthcare money is deducted from your paycheck as long as you have a job. You can visit the public hospitals in Europe and in Latin America(they suck)<br />
If you want to have a better healthcare then you will go in the private sector an pay for a more expensive insurance coverage than before and with less choices. (doctors are currently taking a 30% cut in the biggests hospital in my county).You will have access to the private hospitals.</p>
<p>And then, Doctors will have to take more individuals to take care of at a discount?.  The older will get less medical care compared to the younger ones who are contributing into the system. ECON 101: There is no such a thing as a free luch!</p>
<p>Number two, this Obamashitcare will dump old retirees to absorbe a new group of illegal inmigrants into the system. The funny thing is that when we say Illegals, we think of Mexicans. My friends, the new group of inmigrants that are coming are Africans and Muslims like our President and the Hispanics are going to be tossed under the Obama bus too.</p>
<p>When Obama decided to void an inmigration law that prohibited people with HIV to get visas to the USA? Which group was he thinking off? And when he said America is no longer a Christian nation&#8230;it was aimed at describing his future Islamination of America.</p>
<p>The Congress and the Senate members should be prosecuted for corruption. The American people have spoken and they are against this communist system of health care rationing.</p>
<p>To people that want free housing, education, health care, take a boat  and go 90 miles south of Miami, Florida and enjoy it. The cost: your freedom!</p>
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