Rob you’ve missed the point entirely.

“Obama should listen to the generals” . . . unless they actually join his administration; in which case, there are nothing but “politicians” and idiots, according to a friend of Old Troopers, in which case they should be ignored.

If you go back and actually READ, you will notice that the “men” in that room had no idea what they had commaded the general to do. AGAIN: He was doing EXACTLY what he was told to do, even if this ADMINISTRATION had “forgotten” what they told him back in MARCH. Maybe Jimmy-boy should actually KNOW what plan the active-duty general they gave the job to, was pursuing BEFORE the meeting started….(ya know…the one they all came up with.)

Let’s review, shall we?

But that was precisely his mission, McChrystal responded, enshrined in the Strategic Implementation Plan — the execution orders for the March strategy, written by the NSC staff.

“I wouldn’t say there was quite a ‘whoa’ moment,” a senior defense official said of the reaction around the table. “It was just sort of a recognition that, ‘Duh, that’s what in effect the commander understands he’s been told to do.’ Everybody said, ‘He’s right.’”

I get such a warm fuzzy feeling about my security, and the seriousness this administration takes in procecuting this war…(not)

Maybe instead of reacting in such a emotional and defensive manner, you could tell us of the last time you’ve heard about the entire Admin not knowing what the hell they told their top commanders’ primary mission was?…of course it WAS 9 whole months ago, so I can’t blame them too much FOR FORGETTING!!!

Like 8 pigs rootin around, tryin to figure out how to f**K a flat football.

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Time for Old Trooper to swat flies again.

Thanks, God that idiots that voted this regime in are seeing the light!

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@ Old Trooper -

I think I get con thinking now: “Obama should listen to the generals” . . . unless they actually join his administration; in which case, there are nothing but “politicians” and idiots, according to a friend of Old Troopers, in which case they should be ignored.

That’s clear as mud . . . God, I am glad you people are not calling the shots on anything important. Thanks God that the U.S. voters saw the light in 2008 and rid us of these moronic conservatives — all thinking, all knowing, ever-criticizing harpies who, when given the chance to manage government, gave us that incompetent Katrina response, the Iraq invasion with too few men and faulty equipment, and a ballooning deficit when their predecessor handed them a budget surplus.

Cheney is going to lecture about weakening America? Friggin’ Cheney? Are you people serious?
In fact . . . why would anyone take advice from you folks? That would be like taking safe driving tips from someone who lost their license after a fifth accident in four years.

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tfhr, He appears to be Wes Clark in Marine Corps Blue. I was there with SFOR while Clark was there. Clark was dangerous. Marines that I have listened to tell me that Jones had similar ambitions and was a politician is uniform, not a Marine.

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@Old Trooper:

If Jones is even half as bad as Clark, we’re in worse trouble than I thought.

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Mission in progress regardless of what that Political Moron Jimmy Jones wants to believe.
Retired Generals should stay Retired and STFU unless recalled to Active Duty in UNIFORM.

He’s just another overly ambitious idiot like Wes Clark that almost got Us in a shooting War with the Russians in Bosnia and bombed the Chinese Embassy. Jones Commands NOTHING. He is just Obama’s Houseboy now. Believe it.

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Afghanistan, The Troops and The Idiot Obama…

I have four posts from Memeorandum today in this episode of Afghanistan…
I need you all to read these posts and determine just wha ……

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This attitude is a dangerous one for the President to express, let alone his staff and that of the Congress and Senate. Failure to understand the enemy’s ideals and agenda is rather apparent in the current leadership and just as before will fester and let grow a new series of threats onto America that will spawn years down the road. Apparently losing two monolithic icons of the United States’ achivements was not enough to sober these minds up that the previous Admistration had to make exteremly tough political calls be it public alienation and political assaults by opponents. Do we have to lose a city block, a village, a town, a city, or a metropolis like New York City by extreme violence (well after we’ve withdrawn from military theaters) to shock these eejets to the fact the enemy wants us dead?

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Oh – that NYT’s article is funny. Why does he pretend that he is all knowing?

What can he possibly know about fighting a war? I don’t know if the Times wants the readers to think he is bright, or what. Frankly, I would have thought more of the guy had it said he stepped back and observed. He is so comical.

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According to Jim Jones, Obama put a full 25 hours into this decision and used up 9 or 10 hours on one day after Thanksgiving. Wonder if Mr. Jones is aware of how many hours date nites, golf and parties are gobbling up….what to say….got it, Obama’s war planning is “unprecedented!” they sure like that word, they really do.

This from that barfy NYTimes piece Peter Baker wrote yesterday:

The plan, called Option 2A, was presented to the president on Nov. 11. Mr. Obama complained that the bell curve would take 18 months to get all the troops in place.

He turned to General Petraeus and asked him how long it took to get the so-called surge troops he commanded in Iraq in 2007. That was six months.

“What I’m looking for is a surge,” Mr. Obama said. “This has to be a surge.”

That represented a contrast from when Mr. Obama, as a presidential candidate, staunchly opposed President Bush’s buildup in Iraq. But unlike Mr. Bush, Mr. Obama wanted from the start to speed up a withdrawal as well. The military was told to come up with a plan to send troops quickly and then begin bringing them home quickly.

He first dithered, now we’re surging, he just wants to get it over so he can wash his hands of it preferably before his 2012 campaign.

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