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		<title>By: Patvann</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/11/21/global-warming-emails-may-have-come-from-insider/#comment-256872</link>
		<dc:creator>Patvann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys guys guys. Ease up on the poor lad, he&#039;s lost his religion, and that has GOT to be traumatic in a way that we can not fathom.

Turdo. To ease your transition, might I recommend Wiccan. The girls smell about the same, they have better chants and songs, and rather than the fat ugly strip-mine-owning, heir to Occidental Petroleum Gore as a Prophet, they have the soothing sounds of the wind moving through the trees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Guys guys guys. Ease up on the poor lad, he&#8217;s lost his religion, and that has GOT to be traumatic in a way that we can not fathom.</p>
<p>Turdo. To ease your transition, might I recommend Wiccan. The girls smell about the same, they have better chants and songs, and rather than the fat ugly strip-mine-owning, heir to Occidental Petroleum Gore as a Prophet, they have the soothing sounds of the wind moving through the trees.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/11/21/global-warming-emails-may-have-come-from-insider/#comment-256871</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-256864&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Turboblocke&lt;/a&gt;: Once again your failure in basic logic underpins the fallacy in nearly ALL your arguments. Who says I didn&#039;t understand your alphabet soup?

As I said, recalling the words of my old professor at Columbia, if you can&#039;t make your arguments clear to ALL, then it&#039;s likely that you really don&#039;t know what you are talking about.

Pre-programmed as you are to spout the talking points of pseudo-science you come across as arrogant and willfully ill-informed. Exactly like the climate criminals you are defending who refuse to consider any information which undermines the conclusions they have already drawn.

When it comes to &quot;preducies and preconceived notions&quot; you&#039;ve demonstrated that you prefer to cling to your own rather than engage in an honest examination of the issue.

Again, I invite you to comment on the newer threads of posts on this subject. You might learn something; including a little humility and perhaps develop a better argument in the process.

Unless of course you prefer to remain one of the real &quot;flat earthers&quot; and &quot;deniers&quot; stubbornly clinging to a failed scientific fraud when all but you can see it for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-256864" rel="nofollow">Turboblocke</a>: Once again your failure in basic logic underpins the fallacy in nearly ALL your arguments. Who says I didn&#8217;t understand your alphabet soup?</p>
<p>As I said, recalling the words of my old professor at Columbia, if you can&#8217;t make your arguments clear to ALL, then it&#8217;s likely that you really don&#8217;t know what you are talking about.</p>
<p>Pre-programmed as you are to spout the talking points of pseudo-science you come across as arrogant and willfully ill-informed. Exactly like the climate criminals you are defending who refuse to consider any information which undermines the conclusions they have already drawn.</p>
<p>When it comes to &#8220;preducies and preconceived notions&#8221; you&#8217;ve demonstrated that you prefer to cling to your own rather than engage in an honest examination of the issue.</p>
<p>Again, I invite you to comment on the newer threads of posts on this subject. You might learn something; including a little humility and perhaps develop a better argument in the process.</p>
<p>Unless of course you prefer to remain one of the real &#8220;flat earthers&#8221; and &#8220;deniers&#8221; stubbornly clinging to a failed scientific fraud when all but you can see it for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Skookum</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/11/21/global-warming-emails-may-have-come-from-insider/#comment-256870</link>
		<dc:creator>Skookum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #130, What a bunch of sanctimonious and self-righteous bull shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@ #130, What a bunch of sanctimonious and self-righteous bull shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Turboblocke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turboblocke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to have been there to see it. ;)

(The above is a work of fiction and any resmblence to persons living or dead is a coincidence.)

Now lighten up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>not to have been there to see it. <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(The above is a work of fiction and any resmblence to persons living or dead is a coincidence.)</p>
<p>Now lighten up.</p>
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		<title>By: Turboblocke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turboblocke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MA: the fact that you didn&#039;t know the acronyms for the four main groups who measure global temperature: HADCRUT, GISS, UAH and RSS is not a particularly convincing sign of your depth of knowledge. I understood from your response at 43 that you found that my responses were above  &quot; cab driver&quot; level and that you found this distressing. 

I have no wish to inflict any more trauma on you as I have deduced from your responses that you are of a sensitive nature and I wish to apologise if your preducies and preconceived notions have been in anyway disturbed by any of my above posts.  If you have been in anyway disconcerted by my attempts to introduce you to the benefits of logical thinking, then I am truely sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>MA: the fact that you didn&#8217;t know the acronyms for the four main groups who measure global temperature: HADCRUT, GISS, UAH and RSS is not a particularly convincing sign of your depth of knowledge. I understood from your response at 43 that you found that my responses were above  &#8221; cab driver&#8221; level and that you found this distressing. </p>
<p>I have no wish to inflict any more trauma on you as I have deduced from your responses that you are of a sensitive nature and I wish to apologise if your preducies and preconceived notions have been in anyway disturbed by any of my above posts.  If you have been in anyway disconcerted by my attempts to introduce you to the benefits of logical thinking, then I am truely sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/11/21/global-warming-emails-may-have-come-from-insider/#comment-256844</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-256816&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Turboblocke&lt;/a&gt;: What? You&#039;re quitting and going home? What&#039;s wrong? Run out of acronyms?

What a shame! Just when I thought we might wear out your standard repertoire of climate criminal approved talking points and actually reach you with an ounce of reason!

Well, come back when you get rested up and we&#039;ll make another attempt to introduce you to sane environmental policy based on science, not politics!

P.S. Curt: We should sign him up for regular emails from Sarah PAC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-256816" rel="nofollow">Turboblocke</a>: What? You&#8217;re quitting and going home? What&#8217;s wrong? Run out of acronyms?</p>
<p>What a shame! Just when I thought we might wear out your standard repertoire of climate criminal approved talking points and actually reach you with an ounce of reason!</p>
<p>Well, come back when you get rested up and we&#8217;ll make another attempt to introduce you to sane environmental policy based on science, not politics!</p>
<p>P.S. Curt: We should sign him up for regular emails from Sarah PAC.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turbo...check the emails, they usually have a opt-out link at the bottom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Turbo&#8230;check the emails, they usually have a opt-out link at the bottom</p>
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		<title>By: Turboblocke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turboblocke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MA: I&#039;ve been trying to disengage from this site for a while now. It&#039;s a bit awkward with the time difference.
As you suggested I looked at the front page. NIWA story is a fabrication: the data was released 3 years ago but they are pretending that they haven&#039;t seen in. Wow that&#039;s an interesting tactic.

The  Aussies who resigned have gone against the wishes of the voters who have been inundating the party with e-mails and phone calls. Effectively, their actions have destroyed an opposition party which will now probably split making Rudd&#039;s government even stronger.

Rudd is a politician with balls. read this speech: even if you disagree with what he&#039;s saying and I bet you will, you have to admit that in this day and age of weasel words and two faced politicians, he&#039;s got balls.
http://www.pm.gov.au/node/6305

I hope you guys had a good holiday and wish you health, wealth and happiness in the future. 

I&#039;m out of here.

Could one of the mods, please, stop me getting e-mail notifications, it&#039;s only because of them that I keep coming back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>MA: I&#8217;ve been trying to disengage from this site for a while now. It&#8217;s a bit awkward with the time difference.<br />
As you suggested I looked at the front page. NIWA story is a fabrication: the data was released 3 years ago but they are pretending that they haven&#8217;t seen in. Wow that&#8217;s an interesting tactic.</p>
<p>The  Aussies who resigned have gone against the wishes of the voters who have been inundating the party with e-mails and phone calls. Effectively, their actions have destroyed an opposition party which will now probably split making Rudd&#8217;s government even stronger.</p>
<p>Rudd is a politician with balls. read this speech: even if you disagree with what he&#8217;s saying and I bet you will, you have to admit that in this day and age of weasel words and two faced politicians, he&#8217;s got balls.<br />
<a href="http://www.pm.gov.au/node/6305" rel="nofollow">http://www.pm.gov.au/node/6305</a></p>
<p>I hope you guys had a good holiday and wish you health, wealth and happiness in the future. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m out of here.</p>
<p>Could one of the mods, please, stop me getting e-mail notifications, it&#8217;s only because of them that I keep coming back?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-256808&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patvann&lt;/a&gt;: I don&#039;t think overall length is the problem. It seems that links are the trigger. I make it a practice to do a CTRL-A/CTRL-C (select comment text and copy) before posting just in case.

I too have to dig myself out of spam from time to time. Curt has tried numerous fixes for these problems but none are perfect.

The best solution is one you already follow: when you post a comment and don&#039;t see it immediately displayed drop a simple (no links) reminder in the next comment window. It&#039;s also a good idea that once your original comment posts to go back and delete the request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-256808" rel="nofollow">Patvann</a>: I don&#8217;t think overall length is the problem. It seems that links are the trigger. I make it a practice to do a CTRL-A/CTRL-C (select comment text and copy) before posting just in case.</p>
<p>I too have to dig myself out of spam from time to time. Curt has tried numerous fixes for these problems but none are perfect.</p>
<p>The best solution is one you already follow: when you post a comment and don&#8217;t see it immediately displayed drop a simple (no links) reminder in the next comment window. It&#8217;s also a good idea that once your original comment posts to go back and delete the request.</p>
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		<title>By: Patvann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patvann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Word

I wonder if some of my stuff gets stuck because of the embedded e-mail links, and/or over-all length?

I we knew what the algorithm/rule was within the software that tells it to put a hold on posts was, we could try to avoid putting in those &quot;markers&quot;.

It&#039;s rather scary (and frustrating) to work on a post for a relatively long time , then wonder if it &quot;evaporated&quot;. For my own &quot;fix&quot;, I&#039;ve started keeping a copy in a Word-Doc just in case. When I see the italicized &lt;i&gt;&quot;Your post is in moderation&quot;&lt;/i&gt; it&#039;s no worries, but no feedback at all gives me the willies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@Word</p>
<p>I wonder if some of my stuff gets stuck because of the embedded e-mail links, and/or over-all length?</p>
<p>I we knew what the algorithm/rule was within the software that tells it to put a hold on posts was, we could try to avoid putting in those &#8220;markers&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s rather scary (and frustrating) to work on a post for a relatively long time , then wonder if it &#8220;evaporated&#8221;. For my own &#8220;fix&#8221;, I&#8217;ve started keeping a copy in a Word-Doc just in case. When I see the italicized <i>&#8220;Your post is in moderation&#8221;</i> it&#8217;s no worries, but no feedback at all gives me the willies.</p>
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