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	<title>Comments on: Want to Know Why Fewer and Fewer Americans Support the Dems Health Care &#8220;Reform?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: CaptSteve</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/11/20/want-to-know-why-fewer-and-fewer-americans-support-the-dems-health-care-reform/#comment-256329</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Page 2 of this morning&#039;s Omaha World Herald (Sunday - top of the page):  Headline --
&quot;Nelson:  Bill needs substantial changes&quot;   Sub Headline:  &quot;The public option is a particular problem, he says&quot;.    

Seems old Ben is playing his &quot;I didn&#039;t vote for that Bill&quot; cards already.  Attempting to distance himself from the fray and keep his cushy job with its &quot;Cadillac&quot; health care.   

This is interesting:  &quot;The health care legislation now up for debate in the Senate has serious problems, Sen Ben Nelson said Sunday on ABC&#039;s &quot;This Week&quot;.  &quot;I would not let it get off the floor,: Nelson told host George Stephanopoulos .  &quot;That&#039;s the next round.&quot;   (Must have been taped yesterday since it&#039;s only 8:15am here in Omaha now)

Well, Benny boy, we will see.   Had enough angry phone calls yet?   You ain&#039;t seen nothin&#039; yet.</description>
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&#8220;Nelson:  Bill needs substantial changes&#8221;   Sub Headline:  &#8220;The public option is a particular problem, he says&#8221;.    </p>
<p>Seems old Ben is playing his &#8220;I didn&#8217;t vote for that Bill&#8221; cards already.  Attempting to distance himself from the fray and keep his cushy job with its &#8220;Cadillac&#8221; health care.   </p>
<p>This is interesting:  &#8220;The health care legislation now up for debate in the Senate has serious problems, Sen Ben Nelson said Sunday on ABC&#8217;s &#8220;This Week&#8221;.  &#8220;I would not let it get off the floor,: Nelson told host George Stephanopoulos .  &#8220;That&#8217;s the next round.&#8221;   (Must have been taped yesterday since it&#8217;s only 8:15am here in Omaha now)</p>
<p>Well, Benny boy, we will see.   Had enough angry phone calls yet?   You ain&#8217;t seen nothin&#8217; yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Irons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so our esteemed Senate and Congress majority commence themselves to retreading down the path of history, yet daringly walking down a new one with each swift footstep towards maddness.  They dare draft a new Navigation Act with a drop of Molases Act along with a cup of Tea Act does this make a modern day nightmare of a Bill.  History is being repeated once more from the mid 1700&#039;s and it is bothersome that our leaders have not learned of lessons past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>And so our esteemed Senate and Congress majority commence themselves to retreading down the path of history, yet daringly walking down a new one with each swift footstep towards maddness.  They dare draft a new Navigation Act with a drop of Molases Act along with a cup of Tea Act does this make a modern day nightmare of a Bill.  History is being repeated once more from the mid 1700&#8242;s and it is bothersome that our leaders have not learned of lessons past.</p>
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		<title>By: pdill</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one who has been on the receiving end of Larry’s friendship for almost 30 years, failure to publicly defend him against libelous rhetoric would be unconscionable.  

On many political/social issues, we are often further apart than Venus and Mars.  When it comes to medicine, I’d be hard pressed to recommend a more ethical, brilliant, and altruistic oncologist and researcher.  Outside of my own family, I’d be just as hard pressed to come with a person more dedicated to family and friends, including his generosity to Gary.

I’ve also had the great privilege to have worked with Larry for almost 15 years,  early in his career when he was still treating patients (who BTW, were none other than our deserving Vets).  I could write volumes on the positive impact Larry has made on lives, including patients who clearly would NOT be alive without him.  Just yesterday one of my beloved family members was alive for the birth of a 1st grandchild, and ONLY because 20 years ago, Larry, WITHOUT CHARGE and with much involved time, expense, and effort, saved his life. 

Aye I was horrified to read what you wrote, and equally disappointed with Mike’s inappropriate comment.  Yes, speech is free, but never without consequences.  Why you two continue to get so “personally invested”, to the point of defamation, speaks not only volumes about you, but of the GOP you claim to represent.   Hats off to the “grown -ups” who, despite opposing viewpoints, had the decency and maturity to defend and/or apologize.  

I’m just a grateful guest here myself, but if I were running the board, I throw both of you off and invite a “good liberal” to the staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>As one who has been on the receiving end of Larry’s friendship for almost 30 years, failure to publicly defend him against libelous rhetoric would be unconscionable.  </p>
<p>On many political/social issues, we are often further apart than Venus and Mars.  When it comes to medicine, I’d be hard pressed to recommend a more ethical, brilliant, and altruistic oncologist and researcher.  Outside of my own family, I’d be just as hard pressed to come with a person more dedicated to family and friends, including his generosity to Gary.</p>
<p>I’ve also had the great privilege to have worked with Larry for almost 15 years,  early in his career when he was still treating patients (who BTW, were none other than our deserving Vets).  I could write volumes on the positive impact Larry has made on lives, including patients who clearly would NOT be alive without him.  Just yesterday one of my beloved family members was alive for the birth of a 1st grandchild, and ONLY because 20 years ago, Larry, WITHOUT CHARGE and with much involved time, expense, and effort, saved his life. </p>
<p>Aye I was horrified to read what you wrote, and equally disappointed with Mike’s inappropriate comment.  Yes, speech is free, but never without consequences.  Why you two continue to get so “personally invested”, to the point of defamation, speaks not only volumes about you, but of the GOP you claim to represent.   Hats off to the “grown -ups” who, despite opposing viewpoints, had the decency and maturity to defend and/or apologize.  </p>
<p>I’m just a grateful guest here myself, but if I were running the board, I throw both of you off and invite a “good liberal” to the staff.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mike&#039;sA:  Don’t let that stop you Joanne. Larry does the same thing all the time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, Mike.  While I disagree with Larry 98% of the time, I have not seen where he has accused anyone of willfully deserting a friend to a death sentence sans lifting a finger.  Perhaps you&#039;ll link to such for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Mike&#8217;sA:  Don’t let that stop you Joanne. Larry does the same thing all the time.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, Mike.  While I disagree with Larry 98% of the time, I have not seen where he has accused anyone of willfully deserting a friend to a death sentence sans lifting a finger.  Perhaps you&#8217;ll link to such for us?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-256271&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joanne&lt;/a&gt;: Don&#039;t let that stop you Joanne. Larry does the same thing all the time.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-256253&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CaptSteve&lt;/a&gt;: That nuke option could be a problem. I doubt they will try it but if they get desperate enough they might. If they do, I hope our side is ready to use it&#039;s own hardball tactics and not back down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-256271" rel="nofollow">Joanne</a>: Don&#8217;t let that stop you Joanne. Larry does the same thing all the time.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-256253" rel="nofollow">CaptSteve</a>: That nuke option could be a problem. I doubt they will try it but if they get desperate enough they might. If they do, I hope our side is ready to use it&#8217;s own hardball tactics and not back down.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, I commented on something I had no prior knowledge of.  I would like to extend an apology to you.          Joanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Larry, I commented on something I had no prior knowledge of.  I would like to extend an apology to you.          Joanne</p>
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		<title>By: CaptSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-256249&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Missy&lt;/a&gt;: I am assuming that Dirty Harry will not hesitate to use the nuclear option, thus the need for a simple majority allowing Sen Nelson to say &quot;I voted for it before I voted against it&quot;  ala John Kerry (who only spent 4 months in country in Nam)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-256249" rel="nofollow">Missy</a>: I am assuming that Dirty Harry will not hesitate to use the nuclear option, thus the need for a simple majority allowing Sen Nelson to say &#8220;I voted for it before I voted against it&#8221;  ala John Kerry (who only spent 4 months in country in Nam)&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: American Voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think your Senators are jerks???. . .here is NC Senator Kay Hagan&#039;s feelings about &quot;right-wingers&quot;. . .she is earning the nickname Senator One-Term.
Clearly, a politician that wants to lead but does not like people. . .unless they are SEIU or ACORN members.
The only reason she won last fall -- she was in the middle of a perfect storm for Dem candidates. . .she is delusional.
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The is Senator Kay Hagan&#039;s (Libtard-NC) email
Dear Friend,

Imagine a battalion of right-wingers, tea partiers and ultraconservatives being elected and descending on Washington in January 2011.

Not a pretty picture is it? Unfortunately, it could happen.

The Republicans are hungrier than ever before. They want to win and will stop at nothing to get what they want. Not only that, they are more extreme than ever before, so the consequences of inaction are all the more dire. If they win in 2010, we will have a whole new crop of conservatives trying to take our country in the wrong direction. We cannot let that happen. 

We must take action now before it is too late. We are less than a year away from Election Day, so what we do today will make all the difference in November. The best thing for you to do is give now to the DSCC, so we can build our forces for the upcoming battle. 

Click here to donate $5 or more to the DSCC. We must raise $266,000 by Nov. 30 to make sure we have the funds to fight the GOP and win on Election Day 2010. 

I know first-hand what it is like when the extreme right comes after you with vicious personal attacks. I have seen the way they make up lies to suit their agenda, having no qualms about sullying a person&#039;s good name with deceitful tactics.  

When it happened to me in 2008, an immediate two-prong attack swung into action. I did not let a single charge go unanswered, nor did the DSCC. We both went on the offensive, and with your help, the right was defeated, and I was able to win the election.

Now it is time to do it again. We have a clear path to victory: Answer every attack, stay strong and raise a lot of money. But the only way we can do it is with your help. 

Give as much as you can to the DSCC today so we have the resources we need to hold onto our Senate seats and defeat the extremist Republican agenda. We must raise $266,000 by Nov. 30 to fight the GOP and win on Election Day 2010. 

We both know what we have to do. Like I said, I have been through this before. The good news is, I won. We will win again. All it takes is your help. 

Sincerely,


Kay Hagan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Think your Senators are jerks???. . .here is NC Senator Kay Hagan&#8217;s feelings about &#8220;right-wingers&#8221;. . .she is earning the nickname Senator One-Term.<br />
Clearly, a politician that wants to lead but does not like people. . .unless they are SEIU or ACORN members.<br />
The only reason she won last fall &#8212; she was in the middle of a perfect storm for Dem candidates. . .she is delusional.<br />
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The is Senator Kay Hagan&#8217;s (Libtard-NC) email<br />
Dear Friend,</p>
<p>Imagine a battalion of right-wingers, tea partiers and ultraconservatives being elected and descending on Washington in January 2011.</p>
<p>Not a pretty picture is it? Unfortunately, it could happen.</p>
<p>The Republicans are hungrier than ever before. They want to win and will stop at nothing to get what they want. Not only that, they are more extreme than ever before, so the consequences of inaction are all the more dire. If they win in 2010, we will have a whole new crop of conservatives trying to take our country in the wrong direction. We cannot let that happen. </p>
<p>We must take action now before it is too late. We are less than a year away from Election Day, so what we do today will make all the difference in November. The best thing for you to do is give now to the DSCC, so we can build our forces for the upcoming battle. </p>
<p>Click here to donate $5 or more to the DSCC. We must raise $266,000 by Nov. 30 to make sure we have the funds to fight the GOP and win on Election Day 2010. </p>
<p>I know first-hand what it is like when the extreme right comes after you with vicious personal attacks. I have seen the way they make up lies to suit their agenda, having no qualms about sullying a person&#8217;s good name with deceitful tactics.  </p>
<p>When it happened to me in 2008, an immediate two-prong attack swung into action. I did not let a single charge go unanswered, nor did the DSCC. We both went on the offensive, and with your help, the right was defeated, and I was able to win the election.</p>
<p>Now it is time to do it again. We have a clear path to victory: Answer every attack, stay strong and raise a lot of money. But the only way we can do it is with your help. </p>
<p>Give as much as you can to the DSCC today so we have the resources we need to hold onto our Senate seats and defeat the extremist Republican agenda. We must raise $266,000 by Nov. 30 to fight the GOP and win on Election Day 2010. </p>
<p>We both know what we have to do. Like I said, I have been through this before. The good news is, I won. We will win again. All it takes is your help. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Kay Hagan</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-256248&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CaptSteve&lt;/a&gt;: 

The hound dog from Nevada still needs 60 votes to stop debate, if he doesn&#039;t get that he won&#039;t be able to take it to conference so you still have time to give Sen. Nelson an earful.

My fear is they will go against Senate rules and implement the nuclear option where I think they only will need 51 votes.  That gives the fence sitters an out, they will be able to vote nay on stopping  debate and still come out smelling like a rose letting their colleagues do the dirty work.  Should you call your senator, tell him you are on to that trick too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-256248" rel="nofollow">CaptSteve</a>: </p>
<p>The hound dog from Nevada still needs 60 votes to stop debate, if he doesn&#8217;t get that he won&#8217;t be able to take it to conference so you still have time to give Sen. Nelson an earful.</p>
<p>My fear is they will go against Senate rules and implement the nuclear option where I think they only will need 51 votes.  That gives the fence sitters an out, they will be able to vote nay on stopping  debate and still come out smelling like a rose letting their colleagues do the dirty work.  Should you call your senator, tell him you are on to that trick too.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the vote&#039;s done and we&#039;re screwed unless someone somewhere takes this to the Supremes.  This whole thing is unconstitutional and should be reviewed by the Court.  If they ok it, then we really will be the USSA forever.
Ben Nelson lives here in my county in Nebraska.   We&#039;ll be keeping a close eye on him.   In this morning&#039;s Omaha World Herald, Nelson states that he can&#039;t support the bill as it is now.  He has a so-called &quot;wish list&quot; of things that must be removed.   Ha.  He will vote against the bill when it comes out of conference but, since it will only need 50 votes, all of his BS bluster is meaningless.  Another Democratic trick to woo the people into believing he is &quot;on their side&quot;.    BS BS BS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Well, the vote&#8217;s done and we&#8217;re screwed unless someone somewhere takes this to the Supremes.  This whole thing is unconstitutional and should be reviewed by the Court.  If they ok it, then we really will be the USSA forever.<br />
Ben Nelson lives here in my county in Nebraska.   We&#8217;ll be keeping a close eye on him.   In this morning&#8217;s Omaha World Herald, Nelson states that he can&#8217;t support the bill as it is now.  He has a so-called &#8220;wish list&#8221; of things that must be removed.   Ha.  He will vote against the bill when it comes out of conference but, since it will only need 50 votes, all of his BS bluster is meaningless.  Another Democratic trick to woo the people into believing he is &#8220;on their side&#8221;.    BS BS BS</p>
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