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	<title>Comments on: Lindsey Graham Utterly Destroys The Obama Administration Decision To Try KSM In Civilian Court</title>
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		<title>By: batman</title>
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		<dc:creator>batman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Goober&quot; Graham is feeling some heat, so he throws us a bone once in a while.  That&#039;s how he stays in office.  Like, when John McCain wasn&#039;t hanging out with Teddy:  He would similarly be rational once in a while?  Despite the fact that Graham was right this time, he&#039;s wrong most of the time; And, really needs to be replaced.  Perhaps also, the leadership of the RNC, for continuing to fund these luke-warm &quot;mavericks.&quot;  This nations needs a governance that represents the apparent will of the the people; To replace these royal career politicians with real statesmen, who will adhere to the fundamental principles that made this country great:  Un-diluted conservatism!  As embraced by Reagan and Lincoln.  Now is good: As the modern Democrat Party charges into National Socialism,  we need to oust these &quot;Goobers&quot; that are similarly trying to transform the GOP back into the Democrat-Republicans.   

Impeachment is not going to happen.  This congress is obviously bought and paid for.  But, that&#039;s another issue we&#039;ll address next year.  Sarah in 2012!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;Goober&#8221; Graham is feeling some heat, so he throws us a bone once in a while.  That&#8217;s how he stays in office.  Like, when John McCain wasn&#8217;t hanging out with Teddy:  He would similarly be rational once in a while?  Despite the fact that Graham was right this time, he&#8217;s wrong most of the time; And, really needs to be replaced.  Perhaps also, the leadership of the RNC, for continuing to fund these luke-warm &#8220;mavericks.&#8221;  This nations needs a governance that represents the apparent will of the the people; To replace these royal career politicians with real statesmen, who will adhere to the fundamental principles that made this country great:  Un-diluted conservatism!  As embraced by Reagan and Lincoln.  Now is good: As the modern Democrat Party charges into National Socialism,  we need to oust these &#8220;Goobers&#8221; that are similarly trying to transform the GOP back into the Democrat-Republicans.   </p>
<p>Impeachment is not going to happen.  This congress is obviously bought and paid for.  But, that&#8217;s another issue we&#8217;ll address next year.  Sarah in 2012!</p>
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		<title>By: tfhr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tfhr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255993&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;R S’Chevalier&lt;/a&gt;: 
@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255996&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;southernsue&lt;/a&gt;: 
@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255998&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FedUp&lt;/a&gt;: 


All this talk of impeachment.  I don&#039;t think incompetence will pass for an impeachable offense.  The Republicans only impeached Clinton, the Senate would not convict him.  

Look at the make up of the House and the Senate today.  If Obama&#039;s mother came back from the dead and said that her son was born on Mars the Democrats would only point to the number of jobs they&#039;ve created in Martian congressional district #99. The point is that the Republicans need to run good candidates with a strong platform that outlines a clear plan to spark an economic recovery (hint: tax cuts) that will impress enough independents to send them back with a majority in both houses.  Without that there is no reason to talk about impeachment, even if there were an impeachable offense identified.  Who knows?  Without his overwhelming majority in the Congress, a beleaguered Obama might decide to work with Republicans in 2011.  Whether he does or not, I want him gone on 20 JAN 2013. Until then, Republicans need to focus their attention on winning seats with strong candidates and clear ideas.

One more thing on the Lindsey Graham theme - He was the only Republican (out of 21) on the House Judiciary Committee to suggest censure for Clinton during the impeachment hearings.  The little JAG weasel made a great play about how he did not want to damage the country over some sort of extramarital affair.  I guess Graham doesn&#039;t think perjured testimony is a problem because as far as I know, it&#039;s a felony and the very reason Clinton was disbarred in Arkansas.  Graham did eventually vote for 3 of the 4 articles of impeachment but even back in his days in the House, Graham had an amazing habit of overlooking the obvious.

I don&#039;t trust Graham and would like to see him removed, along with all of the other far too familiar faces that make this Congress the sad and ineffective joke that it has become, either via term limits or by a strong conservative challenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-255993" rel="nofollow">R S’Chevalier</a>:<br />
@<a href="#comment-255996" rel="nofollow">southernsue</a>:<br />
@<a href="#comment-255998" rel="nofollow">FedUp</a>: </p>
<p>All this talk of impeachment.  I don&#8217;t think incompetence will pass for an impeachable offense.  The Republicans only impeached Clinton, the Senate would not convict him.  </p>
<p>Look at the make up of the House and the Senate today.  If Obama&#8217;s mother came back from the dead and said that her son was born on Mars the Democrats would only point to the number of jobs they&#8217;ve created in Martian congressional district #99. The point is that the Republicans need to run good candidates with a strong platform that outlines a clear plan to spark an economic recovery (hint: tax cuts) that will impress enough independents to send them back with a majority in both houses.  Without that there is no reason to talk about impeachment, even if there were an impeachable offense identified.  Who knows?  Without his overwhelming majority in the Congress, a beleaguered Obama might decide to work with Republicans in 2011.  Whether he does or not, I want him gone on 20 JAN 2013. Until then, Republicans need to focus their attention on winning seats with strong candidates and clear ideas.</p>
<p>One more thing on the Lindsey Graham theme &#8211; He was the only Republican (out of 21) on the House Judiciary Committee to suggest censure for Clinton during the impeachment hearings.  The little JAG weasel made a great play about how he did not want to damage the country over some sort of extramarital affair.  I guess Graham doesn&#8217;t think perjured testimony is a problem because as far as I know, it&#8217;s a felony and the very reason Clinton was disbarred in Arkansas.  Graham did eventually vote for 3 of the 4 articles of impeachment but even back in his days in the House, Graham had an amazing habit of overlooking the obvious.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust Graham and would like to see him removed, along with all of the other far too familiar faces that make this Congress the sad and ineffective joke that it has become, either via term limits or by a strong conservative challenger.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holder also had a bit of a problem with Senator Kyl yesterday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jhx5z3VvPs&amp;feature=youtube_gdata</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Holder also had a bit of a problem with Senator Kyl yesterday.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jhx5z3VvPs&#038;feature=youtube_gdata" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jhx5z3VvPs&#038;feature=youtube_gdata</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rides A Pale Horse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rides A Pale Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So.......Ozero says..........

&quot;I don&#039;t think that it will be offensive at all when he&#039;s convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him.&quot;

And some lawyer somewhere isn&#039;t drooling over the idea that he can get his client off and make a name for himself because of prejudicial statements made by the President of the United States?  That Ozero has already tried and convicted KSM before the trial even starts?  That the jury pool hasn&#039;t been contaminated by that statement?

Right.  And I&#039;ve got some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale.

Hey!  Barry!!.........STFU already.  We&#039;re in enough trouble as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>So&#8230;&#8230;.Ozero says&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think that it will be offensive at all when he&#8217;s convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him.&#8221;</p>
<p>And some lawyer somewhere isn&#8217;t drooling over the idea that he can get his client off and make a name for himself because of prejudicial statements made by the President of the United States?  That Ozero has already tried and convicted KSM before the trial even starts?  That the jury pool hasn&#8217;t been contaminated by that statement?</p>
<p>Right.  And I&#8217;ve got some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale.</p>
<p>Hey!  Barry!!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;STFU already.  We&#8217;re in enough trouble as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: JustAl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flabbergasted?  With all due respect newguy40, when has this POS ever &quot;owned&quot; anything other than raising his hand to say &quot;present&quot;?

IMHO it is the sincere desire of this regime to see SKM acquitted and freed after dragging the Bush administration, the intelligence community, and the United States as a whole through the mud as much as possible.  All of this talk about finding him guilty and never letting him go are fig leaves, they want to be able to say &quot;we tried, but we are a nation of laws (lawyers that is), and had no choice.&quot;  It is perfect, through discovery they let SKM load up on intel gathering techniques, slam everyone who had a hand in catching him and getting intel from him, and then sit back on the &quot;moral high ground&quot; and wave as he heads back to Pakistan.

Holder once called me (and all of you) a coward, so I guess I have a right to call him SCUM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Flabbergasted?  With all due respect newguy40, when has this POS ever &#8220;owned&#8221; anything other than raising his hand to say &#8220;present&#8221;?</p>
<p>IMHO it is the sincere desire of this regime to see SKM acquitted and freed after dragging the Bush administration, the intelligence community, and the United States as a whole through the mud as much as possible.  All of this talk about finding him guilty and never letting him go are fig leaves, they want to be able to say &#8220;we tried, but we are a nation of laws (lawyers that is), and had no choice.&#8221;  It is perfect, through discovery they let SKM load up on intel gathering techniques, slam everyone who had a hand in catching him and getting intel from him, and then sit back on the &#8220;moral high ground&#8221; and wave as he heads back to Pakistan.</p>
<p>Holder once called me (and all of you) a coward, so I guess I have a right to call him SCUM.</p>
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		<title>By: newguy40</title>
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		<dc:creator>newguy40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is most interesting to me is a couple follow up items.

P. Leahy (Retard-VT), said that if OBL was captured, he would not need to be interrogated.

Obama said that the decision to trial in NYC was his AG&#039;s decision.  What is it about Obama that prevents him from taking serious policy decisions?  Does this mean if this trial in NYC goes &quot;pear shaped&quot;, Obama will throw Holder under the bus?

It just astounds me that O would not own these decisions.  Just flabbergasted here, folks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>What is most interesting to me is a couple follow up items.</p>
<p>P. Leahy (Retard-VT), said that if OBL was captured, he would not need to be interrogated.</p>
<p>Obama said that the decision to trial in NYC was his AG&#8217;s decision.  What is it about Obama that prevents him from taking serious policy decisions?  Does this mean if this trial in NYC goes &#8220;pear shaped&#8221;, Obama will throw Holder under the bus?</p>
<p>It just astounds me that O would not own these decisions.  Just flabbergasted here, folks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Galloway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Galloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is a JAG after all. Has always been strong on support of the military and security of the U.S. but hangs out with John Kerry and the Climate Bill deal. 

  He did explain, he wants oil drilling, natural gas, and clean coal to be utilized but should make this point clearly . I turned on him for his RINO  ways but he is perfect in his dressing down of this idiot AG we have been saddled with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>He is a JAG after all. Has always been strong on support of the military and security of the U.S. but hangs out with John Kerry and the Climate Bill deal. </p>
<p>  He did explain, he wants oil drilling, natural gas, and clean coal to be utilized but should make this point clearly . I turned on him for his RINO  ways but he is perfect in his dressing down of this idiot AG we have been saddled with.</p>
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		<title>By: a copper</title>
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		<dc:creator>a copper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Holder really f-ed up.  At the 2:57 mark, he testified that SOME captured people received Miranda warns.  Therefore, some did not.  Which ones?  And why?  Discrimination?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I think Holder really f-ed up.  At the 2:57 mark, he testified that SOME captured people received Miranda warns.  Therefore, some did not.  Which ones?  And why?  Discrimination?</p>
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		<title>By: Aleric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aleric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know you have screwed the pooch when one of your lap dogs gets up and bites you.
 
Holder looked like someone had caught him cheating off the person beside him in law school.  He figured he could simply wave off any opposition with misdirection and they would buy it.  The current administration simply hasnot learned that there are checks and balances built into the system to keep them from doing whatever they want.  The question now is when will the RNC start flexing their muscle and bring up all the blocks to this travesty of history being enacted out on the public airwaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>You know you have screwed the pooch when one of your lap dogs gets up and bites you.</p>
<p>Holder looked like someone had caught him cheating off the person beside him in law school.  He figured he could simply wave off any opposition with misdirection and they would buy it.  The current administration simply hasnot learned that there are checks and balances built into the system to keep them from doing whatever they want.  The question now is when will the RNC start flexing their muscle and bring up all the blocks to this travesty of history being enacted out on the public airwaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Bernardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Bernardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Graham is 100% right-on in this case. Holder comes off as the incompetent bungler that personifies so many other Obama appointees. The Obama and Company agenda continues! From the onset of this administration, is has been clear that Obama has no interest in the continued protection of the American people and way of life, and is working overtime to weaken our world position. The rush to close Gitmo is only one example of his warped policies. If this slime-bag KSM is tried in our court system, it will set a precedent that will never go away!

Avery concerned and upset American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Senator Graham is 100% right-on in this case. Holder comes off as the incompetent bungler that personifies so many other Obama appointees. The Obama and Company agenda continues! From the onset of this administration, is has been clear that Obama has no interest in the continued protection of the American people and way of life, and is working overtime to weaken our world position. The rush to close Gitmo is only one example of his warped policies. If this slime-bag KSM is tried in our court system, it will set a precedent that will never go away!</p>
<p>Avery concerned and upset American.</p>
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