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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255451&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;B-Rob&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Care to share a link to anyone vouching for this? I heard this talking point yesterday, but the person who said it did not elaborate. So I am sure you would be happy to explain exactly what was disclosed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/11/13/obama-grants-arch-terrorist-ksms-fondest-wish/#comment-255554&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andrew McCarthy response&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-255451" rel="nofollow">B-Rob</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>Care to share a link to anyone vouching for this? I heard this talking point yesterday, but the person who said it did not elaborate. So I am sure you would be happy to explain exactly what was disclosed.</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/11/13/obama-grants-arch-terrorist-ksms-fondest-wish/#comment-255554" rel="nofollow">Andrew McCarthy response</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255451&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;B-Rob&lt;/a&gt;: 

Hey Mr. Rule of Law, better source this one.

&lt;blockquote&gt;ducking indictment for lying to prosecutors&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and don&#039;t bother to use Jason Leopold.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/16/AR2006061601754.html

_______________

Gang members and drug lords are no different than al Qaeda you say.  Gang members and drug lords  are no different than the animals from afar that plotted and carried out the attack on our homeland, that slaughtered almost 3000 innocent people in one single morning?  Wiped out the WTC and put a big gaping hole in our Pentagon?  Don&#039;t even think we don&#039;t have operational &quot;murder for allah&quot; cells within this country, we&#039;ve already busted a number of them.

Have you any idea what the security was like when  Massoui was on trial?  Look it up.  You think that was all for nothing?  Tell me, how often are sections of cities shut down for the trials of gang members and drug lords?  

Now, explain why military tribunals are just fine for the terrorists that attacked the USS Cole.

I personally think your are stark raving mad.  You shoot your mouth off just to hear yourself, that&#039;s about all it could be good for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-255451" rel="nofollow">B-Rob</a>: </p>
<p>Hey Mr. Rule of Law, better source this one.</p>
<blockquote><p>ducking indictment for lying to prosecutors</p></blockquote>
<p>and don&#8217;t bother to use Jason Leopold.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/16/AR2006061601754.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/16/AR2006061601754.html</a></p>
<p>_______________</p>
<p>Gang members and drug lords are no different than al Qaeda you say.  Gang members and drug lords  are no different than the animals from afar that plotted and carried out the attack on our homeland, that slaughtered almost 3000 innocent people in one single morning?  Wiped out the WTC and put a big gaping hole in our Pentagon?  Don&#8217;t even think we don&#8217;t have operational &#8220;murder for allah&#8221; cells within this country, we&#8217;ve already busted a number of them.</p>
<p>Have you any idea what the security was like when  Massoui was on trial?  Look it up.  You think that was all for nothing?  Tell me, how often are sections of cities shut down for the trials of gang members and drug lords?  </p>
<p>Now, explain why military tribunals are just fine for the terrorists that attacked the USS Cole.</p>
<p>I personally think your are stark raving mad.  You shoot your mouth off just to hear yourself, that&#8217;s about all it could be good for.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCal Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCal Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255430&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Missy&lt;/a&gt;: 
Thanks for the info, Missy.  It seems we don&#039;t have much control over this decision, but I do hope at the very least all the people involved in the trial will have good security provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-255430" rel="nofollow">Missy</a>:<br />
Thanks for the info, Missy.  It seems we don&#8217;t have much control over this decision, but I do hope at the very least all the people involved in the trial will have good security provided.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Grants Arch Terrorist KSM’s Fondest Wish! &#171; Common Sense Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama Grants Arch Terrorist KSM’s Fondest Wish! &#171; Common Sense Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Administration is now conferring with the Constitutional rights of a U.S. citizen by putting him on trial in a civilian court in New [...]</description>
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		<title>By: B-Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ DR -- you wrote --

&quot;Remember the trial of the blind sheikh Rahman in NYC? During his trial, methods and resources used by US intel agencies were revealed.&quot;

Care to share a link to anyone vouching for this?  I heard this talking point yesterday, but the person who said it did not elaborate.  So I am sure you would be happy to explain exactly what was disclosed.

@ Missy --

Karl Rove is hardly a good source of information for analysis of the US legal system; ducking indictment for lying to prosecutors does not make one a expert on how criminal trial are conducted.  State and federal juries try gang members, drug lords, etc., every day.  This is, in reality, no different.  Add in the fact that al Queda (unlike domestic White supremicists groups) has not been known to threaten or attack judges, I would say that the &quot;security&quot; considerations are, in reality, minimal when compared to other threats that US and state courts deal with on a regular basis.

Nope . . . I know what conservatives REALLY fear.  They don&#039;t fear exposure of the Bush torture regime -- that&#039;s been done already and Obama has given the pro-torture functionaries a pass.  And they don&#039;t fear an Obama loss because of the torture or the lack of evidence.  Nope . . . they REALLY fear an Obama win!  Especially if it comes during 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@ DR &#8212; you wrote &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;Remember the trial of the blind sheikh Rahman in NYC? During his trial, methods and resources used by US intel agencies were revealed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Care to share a link to anyone vouching for this?  I heard this talking point yesterday, but the person who said it did not elaborate.  So I am sure you would be happy to explain exactly what was disclosed.</p>
<p>@ Missy &#8211;</p>
<p>Karl Rove is hardly a good source of information for analysis of the US legal system; ducking indictment for lying to prosecutors does not make one a expert on how criminal trial are conducted.  State and federal juries try gang members, drug lords, etc., every day.  This is, in reality, no different.  Add in the fact that al Queda (unlike domestic White supremicists groups) has not been known to threaten or attack judges, I would say that the &#8220;security&#8221; considerations are, in reality, minimal when compared to other threats that US and state courts deal with on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Nope . . . I know what conservatives REALLY fear.  They don&#8217;t fear exposure of the Bush torture regime &#8212; that&#8217;s been done already and Obama has given the pro-torture functionaries a pass.  And they don&#8217;t fear an Obama loss because of the torture or the lack of evidence.  Nope . . . they REALLY fear an Obama win!  Especially if it comes during 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255406&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SoCal Chris&lt;/a&gt;: 

There were a couple of points made yesterday, one by Karl Rove.  He said that each and every one of the judges and jurists would need security throughout the trials.  I&#039;m thinking, what about their families?  What about after the trials, how long will they be offered security?

Another point made, I forget who brought it up, was Holder promised that with information(classified) he&#039;s privy to, he pretty much guaranteed conviction thus tainting the jury pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-255406" rel="nofollow">SoCal Chris</a>: </p>
<p>There were a couple of points made yesterday, one by Karl Rove.  He said that each and every one of the judges and jurists would need security throughout the trials.  I&#8217;m thinking, what about their families?  What about after the trials, how long will they be offered security?</p>
<p>Another point made, I forget who brought it up, was Holder promised that with information(classified) he&#8217;s privy to, he pretty much guaranteed conviction thus tainting the jury pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Inge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure, that Holder, and his ACLU attorney have pre-selected the jury, namely most of them will be muslim. I would never put it past them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I&#8217;m sure, that Holder, and his ACLU attorney have pre-selected the jury, namely most of them will be muslim. I would never put it past them!</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. I have been able to locate a gold mine in the Superstition mountains tho. I simply don&#039;t have the funds to mine it. 
For a small price, it&#039;s location is yours. ;)

I can say this much, the Arizonans that were paying attention are &lt;strong&gt;thrilled&lt;/strong&gt; napolitano is gone-even if it took a promotion to do it. She was literally the worst thing to happen to this state in a loooong time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Nope. I have been able to locate a gold mine in the Superstition mountains tho. I simply don&#8217;t have the funds to mine it.<br />
For a small price, it&#8217;s location is yours. <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can say this much, the Arizonans that were paying attention are <strong>thrilled</strong> napolitano is gone-even if it took a promotion to do it. She was literally the worst thing to happen to this state in a loooong time.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCal Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCal Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard Right, LOL.  I&#039;m not surprised about most anything Napolitano would try to push, or Obama.  Darn, I guess that means I can&#039;t buy any beachfront property in Arizona!?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Hard Right, LOL.  I&#8217;m not surprised about most anything Napolitano would try to push, or Obama.  Darn, I guess that means I can&#8217;t buy any beachfront property in Arizona!?  <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Obama Grants Arch Terrorist KSM&#8217;s Fondest Wish!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama Grants Arch Terrorist KSM&#8217;s Fondest Wish!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Administration is now conferring with the Constitutional rights of a U.S. citizen by putting him on trial in a civilian court in New [...]</description>
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