@internet news: Interesting oldie–not sure I see the relevance–the objective (singular) of our government and the people that elected it is crystal clear toi them, and to those of us who don’t drink the koolaid.

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UPDATE: STILL NOTHING TO SEE HERE
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199572.php
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199571.php

Hey, is it a crime to advocate terrorism? I mean, until they actually kill people, what can one do?
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/11/major-muslim-hasans-emails-to-devout-imam-were-seeking-spiritual-and-religious-guidance-had-we-laun.html

And yes, he did shout “Allah Akbar”
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199569.php

PS – I think someone should tell them what “Akbar” means, LOL.

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UPDATE TO MY (@yonason: )

The Islamist fifth column is much larger than most people realize.
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/muslims-in-america-cheering-fort-hood-massacre/

Before 9/11 virtually all (with only a couple of possible exceptions) of the Islamic websites either had violent jihad material on their websites, or on sites they linked to.

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@Aqua:

“…and the Russian Trawler sitting right at 3 miles off shore.”

Oh, that reminds me. When we went to sea we were occasionally tailed by a Russian ship (I think it was a trawler). I had heard about it numerous times, and actually got to see at once.

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“DON’T RUSH TO INVESTIGATE”, uh, I mean, “DON’T RUSH TO JUDGMENT.”

“I’m tired of hearing the claims that Islamic terrorist Nidal Malik Hasan “acted alone” when he massacred soldiers at Fort Hood, last week. He didn’t act alone. He acted with Islam and the Koran and his imam and his mosque. And with the celebratory support of the Arab and Muslim Streets all over the world.

But now there’s evidence that Hasan’s attack was part of several attacks on U.S. military bases and personnel planned, coordinated, and orchestrated by Islamic clerics.“ — Debbie Schlussel

Please read the rest. It cannot be called anything other than a terrorist attack by an Islamofascist infil-traitor.

And there are LOTS more where he came from, a partial short list can be found here under where it says, “Clearly, his loyalties lay elsewhere. And he’s hardly alone:”

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@ repsac3

Agreed. If the Army knew and did nothing, someone up top is going to (or at least needs to) have their a$$ handed to them.

I can’t speak for Matthews, but if I was there then, I probably would’ve thought much the same as my fellow Americans, and wanted to string German-Americans from lampposts and lock Japanese-Americans in camps. I grew up in a different time…

Fair enough. However, I think it’s time we started showing some common sense in this country. Stip searching some little old lady in the security line at the airport while people of middle eastern descent pass through, is a little nuts. Not saying every person of middle eastern descent is a threat to aviation, but I’m relatively sure the little old lady isn’t. And if for some reason she is, I’m betting the flight attendants could take her.
Furthermore, another incident like this is going to be ugly. The political correctness is only hurting law abiding people of the muslim faith. If we go the extra mile to give a person such as Hasan the benefit of the doubt, a measure that wouldn’t be given to a member of a milita group member, it’s not doing the Muslim Community any favors. I would expect the FBI to be so up a radical milita group member’s rear end, he could smell their cologne. Same deal with radical muslims.

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Maybe for a civilian.

I more or less acknowledged that I was thinking like a civilian when I made that first comment, and said in my second–after it was pointed out to me–that if the rules aren’t different for those in the military with security clearances at least, they ought to be.

So, what Hasan did was, um…illegal.

I want to believe you and Rodney G. Graves in comment #10 are correct about that, but there doesn’t seem to be any question that the FBI knew about the contact, and they claim they reported it to the Army. (Yes, I saw that today the Army released a statement denying that they were ever told. If they were–& I’d suspect that if they were the FBI will have documentation, like any good beaurocracy–the Army failed to act. If they weren’t, the FBI dropped the ball.)

You really don’t have any first amendment rights in the military.

That’s why I believe the Army should’ve acted, based on the clues among the 34+ above that they did have. I mean, if nothing else, having some ass spout off about his love for the enemy while in uniform has to reflect poorly on the Army, in the same way that I can’t post disparaging shit on the internet about the company I work for. Even if they couldn’t arrest him, they could’ve disciplined him, or something. It’s not so much that free speech doesn’t apply; but that with rights come responsibilities, particularly in the service. You can speak, but the things you say can have consequences.

But also, I wonder what you and Matthews would have said back in WWII, if a person of German descent was found to be having correspondence with Hilter’s Germany.

I can’t speak for Matthews, but if I was there then, I probably would’ve thought much the same as my fellow Americans, and wanted to string German-Americans from lampposts and lock Japanese-Americans in camps. I grew up in a different time, when motives matter, and people aren’t guilty or innocent based on heritage alone. Knowing exactly who the German-American was corresponding with, and what was actually said, would greatly influence my response. I don’t blame the folks during WWII who felt as they did–like the Americans who kept slaves back in the 17 & 1800′s, and the men who denied women all manner of rights, they were a product of the times they lived in–but I’m glad that we’ve evolved, since then.

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Rodney, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Hasan meets the definition of terrorist in every way. It should also be pointed out that terrorists are not lawful enemy soldiers. To equate them as such is disgusting.

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@ yonason

Yep, when I was in Okinawa, the only way I knew the SR-71 was getting ready to take off…lots of Japanese lined up at the fence at the runway and the Russian Trawler sitting right at 3 miles off shore.

The feds may not get Hasan for talking to Al Q, but I guarantee you the Army JAG has article 104 written down in the charges.

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Rodney G. Graves

How come there were civilians shot as well?? Just asking.

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