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		<title>By: Skookum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skookum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are awesome, it is an honor to work with you.  I am a novice.  With this &quot;collective&quot; effort from so many diverse backgrounds we are becoming a formidable opponent for the Marxist Front.  Without these wonderful little machines from Wall Mart and the internet, our future would be bleak.

We are carrying the fight to O, they are worried of any little mistake, for they know we will grab a hold like an army of pit bulls and rip them to shreds.  Let&#039;s keep them looking over their shoulder, it serves to slow the Marxist advance.

We fight the honorable fight and have fun doing it, let&#039;s go to the front and improve our position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>You guys are awesome, it is an honor to work with you.  I am a novice.  With this &#8220;collective&#8221; effort from so many diverse backgrounds we are becoming a formidable opponent for the Marxist Front.  Without these wonderful little machines from Wall Mart and the internet, our future would be bleak.</p>
<p>We are carrying the fight to O, they are worried of any little mistake, for they know we will grab a hold like an army of pit bulls and rip them to shreds.  Let&#8217;s keep them looking over their shoulder, it serves to slow the Marxist advance.</p>
<p>We fight the honorable fight and have fun doing it, let&#8217;s go to the front and improve our position.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255353&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skookum&lt;/a&gt;: 

I don&#039;t think anyone could accuse any within the Daley machine of being gifted with brilliance but they still stay in power and control most of the state.  

PatVann&#039;s right, Valerie Jarret does have a strong grip on Obama, she&#039;s definately left her mark on him as far as Iran, but, I think she&#039;s mainly there to be the One&#039;s babysitter.  Check out the &quot;Real Barack Obama website,  they also have a wealth of information on Jarrett.  

They, Axelrod included, Obama excluded, have political street smarts, know how to cover their tracks and bury the bodies, frustrating many for years and years.  I bet they were holding their breath over a few Obama fumbles,  the media ignored them,  I&#039;m sure they were thanked.  

As they got Obama closer to the brass ring, other savvy politicos that had left the Clinton organization came on board....they also aquired the MSM, Soros, his decrepid associates, Hollywood, Wall Street, unions and already had every operation under the ACORN umbrella.  

Unions infiltrated caucuses, boldly ignored rules, locked/shoved  people out, suppressing Hillary  votes by intimidating voters.  They out did themselves in Nevada, it was all in plain site, but it didn&#039;t matter. 

Then came the delegate theft, Emanuel and former Clintonites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-255353" rel="nofollow">Skookum</a>: </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone could accuse any within the Daley machine of being gifted with brilliance but they still stay in power and control most of the state.  </p>
<p>PatVann&#8217;s right, Valerie Jarret does have a strong grip on Obama, she&#8217;s definately left her mark on him as far as Iran, but, I think she&#8217;s mainly there to be the One&#8217;s babysitter.  Check out the &#8220;Real Barack Obama website,  they also have a wealth of information on Jarrett.  </p>
<p>They, Axelrod included, Obama excluded, have political street smarts, know how to cover their tracks and bury the bodies, frustrating many for years and years.  I bet they were holding their breath over a few Obama fumbles,  the media ignored them,  I&#8217;m sure they were thanked.  </p>
<p>As they got Obama closer to the brass ring, other savvy politicos that had left the Clinton organization came on board&#8230;.they also aquired the MSM, Soros, his decrepid associates, Hollywood, Wall Street, unions and already had every operation under the ACORN umbrella.  </p>
<p>Unions infiltrated caucuses, boldly ignored rules, locked/shoved  people out, suppressing Hillary  votes by intimidating voters.  They out did themselves in Nevada, it was all in plain site, but it didn&#8217;t matter. </p>
<p>Then came the delegate theft, Emanuel and former Clintonites?</p>
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		<title>By: Patvann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patvann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here Skooks.

Some good places to start:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/default.asp

http://stopjarrett.com/

http://michellemalkin.com/?s=valerie+jarrett

http://www.muckety.com/Valerie-B-Jarrett/4675.muckety</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Here Skooks.</p>
<p>Some good places to start:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/default.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/default.asp</a></p>
<p><a href="http://stopjarrett.com/" rel="nofollow">http://stopjarrett.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/?s=valerie+jarrett" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/?s=valerie+jarrett</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.muckety.com/Valerie-B-Jarrett/4675.muckety" rel="nofollow">http://www.muckety.com/Valerie-B-Jarrett/4675.muckety</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skookum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skookum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes PV, as I recall from Beck&#039;s show, Jarret&#039;s wealthy industrialist father and Ayer&#039;s wealthy industrialist father were very close in business, social, and Socialist Idealism.  After listening to the MO gaffes and her telling the world that her hubby was going to rewrite history, I don&#039;t think she has the brains to blow her nose.

Thanks PV, I am going to be digging on this Jarret woman, digging and gouging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Yes PV, as I recall from Beck&#8217;s show, Jarret&#8217;s wealthy industrialist father and Ayer&#8217;s wealthy industrialist father were very close in business, social, and Socialist Idealism.  After listening to the MO gaffes and her telling the world that her hubby was going to rewrite history, I don&#8217;t think she has the brains to blow her nose.</p>
<p>Thanks PV, I am going to be digging on this Jarret woman, digging and gouging!</p>
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		<title>By: Patvann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patvann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Skookum

I&#039;ve done quite a bit of research into who exactly does the &quot;thinking&quot; in this admin.

We have as candidates;

Obama himself.
Obviously no, based on his own non-words and non-deeds.
Axelrod. 
Nope, he&#039;s the packaging, spinner and advertising guy, always has been. Has no beliefs.
Rahm Emanuel.
Close, but he&#039;s an enforcer, and inner-workings guy. Also has no beliefs.
Pete Rouse
Again, an inner-workings guy. Knows instictively how Congress/Washington works.

There are two people who have the history, the smarts, the connections, the trust, and the belief-structure necessary for Obama to appear cognizant. These two people also have the correct (for Obama) psychological &quot;triggers&quot; for Obama to defer to, for every decision he needs to make.

Valerie Jarrett, and Michelle. 
Obama has at various times hinted at this, and they are the only two people who have had his ear for lo these years since his early days. In fact Valerie came with Michelle as a package via the connection their fathers had together. They knew each other before they knew Barry.

Everything ever put forth by Obama, has already been put forth by Valerie.

Val has the ideas, and Michelle makes sure he listens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@Skookum</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done quite a bit of research into who exactly does the &#8220;thinking&#8221; in this admin.</p>
<p>We have as candidates;</p>
<p>Obama himself.<br />
Obviously no, based on his own non-words and non-deeds.<br />
Axelrod.<br />
Nope, he&#8217;s the packaging, spinner and advertising guy, always has been. Has no beliefs.<br />
Rahm Emanuel.<br />
Close, but he&#8217;s an enforcer, and inner-workings guy. Also has no beliefs.<br />
Pete Rouse<br />
Again, an inner-workings guy. Knows instictively how Congress/Washington works.</p>
<p>There are two people who have the history, the smarts, the connections, the trust, and the belief-structure necessary for Obama to appear cognizant. These two people also have the correct (for Obama) psychological &#8220;triggers&#8221; for Obama to defer to, for every decision he needs to make.</p>
<p>Valerie Jarrett, and Michelle.<br />
Obama has at various times hinted at this, and they are the only two people who have had his ear for lo these years since his early days. In fact Valerie came with Michelle as a package via the connection their fathers had together. They knew each other before they knew Barry.</p>
<p>Everything ever put forth by Obama, has already been put forth by Valerie.</p>
<p>Val has the ideas, and Michelle makes sure he listens.</p>
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		<title>By: Skookum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skookum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missy, the first time heard Obama&#039;s name, a news &quot;journalist&quot; asked him a question about Hezbollah, during his Senate run.  It was obvious he had no idea how to answer the question and referred to Hezbollah as Hezballoo.  I thought to myself, so this guy wants to be in the Senate, oh well he is from the South Side of Chicago, probably Daly&#039;s hand picked man.  What can you expect?

Boy o boy, did I underestimate the power of ignorance.

After the election, I thought Axelrod might have been the brain of the Obama Machine.  Until he started giving interviews and revealed himself to be only a little more nimble in the brain pan than Obama.  He&#039;s able to recite the official position of the party and the administration without stuttering, no matter how inappropriate the response is to the question.  Not exactly the mark of an astute thinker and brilliant strategist.

I think that the continual whispering into Obama&#039;s ear is to keep him refreshed as to their position on certain issues.  Thus he may be the most important man in Obama&#039;s Politbureau.  Although he should have never spoken in public and revealed his lack of judgement and ability to think on his feet.

He should have remained an enigma, at least he could have maintained a level of dignity, no matter how false the illusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Missy, the first time heard Obama&#8217;s name, a news &#8220;journalist&#8221; asked him a question about Hezbollah, during his Senate run.  It was obvious he had no idea how to answer the question and referred to Hezbollah as Hezballoo.  I thought to myself, so this guy wants to be in the Senate, oh well he is from the South Side of Chicago, probably Daly&#8217;s hand picked man.  What can you expect?</p>
<p>Boy o boy, did I underestimate the power of ignorance.</p>
<p>After the election, I thought Axelrod might have been the brain of the Obama Machine.  Until he started giving interviews and revealed himself to be only a little more nimble in the brain pan than Obama.  He&#8217;s able to recite the official position of the party and the administration without stuttering, no matter how inappropriate the response is to the question.  Not exactly the mark of an astute thinker and brilliant strategist.</p>
<p>I think that the continual whispering into Obama&#8217;s ear is to keep him refreshed as to their position on certain issues.  Thus he may be the most important man in Obama&#8217;s Politbureau.  Although he should have never spoken in public and revealed his lack of judgement and ability to think on his feet.</p>
<p>He should have remained an enigma, at least he could have maintained a level of dignity, no matter how false the illusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a remarkable thread, thanks Skookum and all other&#039;s who have contributed.  

I had  read countless Chicago blogs during the dem primary and had been watching the creation of Obama since his run against Alan Keyes and do believe the myth of Obama was crafted by the Axlerod/Chicago machine.  I suspect Axelrod became powerful because he knew the town dirt from sifting through it for years as a reporter and obviously had no problem becoming a player.  Axelrod, with the aid of a crooked judge eliminated Ryan giving us Alan Keyes which made Obama the Jr. Senator from Illinois.  His primary opponents were also knocked out on technicalities, but what they did Ryan was really dirty.

Credit due to Obama was his ability to latch and hold onto the unethical politicians, dirty judges,  lobbyists, Daley&#039;s inner circle and Michelle, she was already there swirling around in the muck.  Not only did they create, package and sell the Obama of today, they remade Michelle to complete the package.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-255282&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pdill&lt;/a&gt;: 

Your conclusions were spot on!  We have always been sickened by Obama&#039;s abortion stance, he&#039;s been deeply involved with Planned Parenthood since his early days in the State Senate, and yes, passionately pro-abortion.


&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;It is true Obama can direct a campaign audience with skill and whip up enthusiasm bordering on hysteria;&lt;/strong&gt; yet like Mussolini before him, a population tires of endless campaigns with no tangible results. The Governor races of New Jersey and Virginia confirmed the fact that the public is no longer enthralled with a perpetual campaign.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He mimicked/ borrowed from 20 years of Rev. Wright&#039;s sermons,  it was like lightening speed how the cadence of his speeches changed after Wright&#039;s sermons were exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This is a remarkable thread, thanks Skookum and all other&#8217;s who have contributed.  </p>
<p>I had  read countless Chicago blogs during the dem primary and had been watching the creation of Obama since his run against Alan Keyes and do believe the myth of Obama was crafted by the Axlerod/Chicago machine.  I suspect Axelrod became powerful because he knew the town dirt from sifting through it for years as a reporter and obviously had no problem becoming a player.  Axelrod, with the aid of a crooked judge eliminated Ryan giving us Alan Keyes which made Obama the Jr. Senator from Illinois.  His primary opponents were also knocked out on technicalities, but what they did Ryan was really dirty.</p>
<p>Credit due to Obama was his ability to latch and hold onto the unethical politicians, dirty judges,  lobbyists, Daley&#8217;s inner circle and Michelle, she was already there swirling around in the muck.  Not only did they create, package and sell the Obama of today, they remade Michelle to complete the package.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-255282" rel="nofollow">pdill</a>: </p>
<p>Your conclusions were spot on!  We have always been sickened by Obama&#8217;s abortion stance, he&#8217;s been deeply involved with Planned Parenthood since his early days in the State Senate, and yes, passionately pro-abortion.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>It is true Obama can direct a campaign audience with skill and whip up enthusiasm bordering on hysteria;</strong> yet like Mussolini before him, a population tires of endless campaigns with no tangible results. The Governor races of New Jersey and Virginia confirmed the fact that the public is no longer enthralled with a perpetual campaign.</p></blockquote>
<p>He mimicked/ borrowed from 20 years of Rev. Wright&#8217;s sermons,  it was like lightening speed how the cadence of his speeches changed after Wright&#8217;s sermons were exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Skookum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skookum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata, I think you are double fit and on the run, going up those foothills without looking back.

Ms pdill, I like your fighting style.  I worked out in the MMA dojos until a couple of years ago and you remind me of the guys who came out using everything to take you down.  In the MMA world they called me Poppa Bear because when you grabbed hold of me, they said it felt like you had just grabbed hold of a bear.  Great fun, those young guys only cut me slack for the first 30 seconds, then they realized they were in a fight.  Great fun.  You have the mind of an MMA fighter.  Let them have it!  By the way, that&#039;s a great big complement!

When I was a boy I was told that anyone could become President of the United States.  I am beginning to believe it.  Clarence Darrow  1857-1970</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata, I think you are double fit and on the run, going up those foothills without looking back.</p>
<p>Ms pdill, I like your fighting style.  I worked out in the MMA dojos until a couple of years ago and you remind me of the guys who came out using everything to take you down.  In the MMA world they called me Poppa Bear because when you grabbed hold of me, they said it felt like you had just grabbed hold of a bear.  Great fun, those young guys only cut me slack for the first 30 seconds, then they realized they were in a fight.  Great fun.  You have the mind of an MMA fighter.  Let them have it!  By the way, that&#8217;s a great big complement!</p>
<p>When I was a boy I was told that anyone could become President of the United States.  I am beginning to believe it.  Clarence Darrow  1857-1970</p>
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		<title>By: pdill</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point well taken Mata.  I&#039;m well aware that Obama is the &quot;distraction&quot; but none the less, fascinating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Point well taken Mata.  I&#8217;m well aware that Obama is the &#8220;distraction&#8221; but none the less, fascinating!</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ms. pdill:  I admit, I give the guy serious thought, and for as much as I can’t stand to even listen to his voice (which is almost never), I continue to be intrigued by his act. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

We need to find an alternative to entertainment for you, girl.  My suggestion?  If you&#039;re ice fishing, don&#039;t be focusing on the ice.  The fish you want are found below.

So you caught that &quot;dumb dumb&quot; comment.  heh</description>
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<p>We need to find an alternative to entertainment for you, girl.  My suggestion?  If you&#8217;re ice fishing, don&#8217;t be focusing on the ice.  The fish you want are found below.</p>
<p>So you caught that &#8220;dumb dumb&#8221; comment.  heh</p>
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