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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Stimulus Promises Result in Loss of 2.7 Million Jobs</title>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Obama’s Stimulus Promises Result in Loss of 2.7 Million Jobs -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Obama’s Stimulus Promises Result in Loss of 2.7 Million Jobs -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by The Noble Patriot and FloppingAces, North Dakota. North Dakota said: Obama&#039;s Stimulus Promises Result in Loss of 2.7 Million Jobs: Only North Dakota has seen net job creation f.. http://bit.ly/3GGzAI [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/10/21/obamas-stimulus-promises-result-in-loss-of-2-7-million-jobs/#comment-253017</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is a good place to discuss this: As an employer in the IT field (programmer), I find that in this tight economy, it is better to outsource some/a lot of my work to russia. I have a team there that works for 10-14/dollars an hour, and deliver much higher quality code then most of the sources I have available in the states. Most of those &#039;other&#039; sources are good, but not as good as my russians. And they try to charge over 75/hour. To me, it is a good thing as it adds a level of reality to our world in the U.S. Even network admins anymore think they can charge late 90&#039;s prices (comparably) when computer solutions have dropped significantly across the board. Moores Law couldn&#039;t stay consistent forever unless we shot through to quantum computing. With that said, I believe in employing Americans, but I don&#039;t believe in employing Americans just because they are American. If they do a poor job, charge more, and complain more, I will be next to join the ranks of the unemployed. My russians work cheaper, write in better english than many of my u.s. programmers, don&#039;t complain at all, and an almost always write better code for the price. Where is my motivation to go elsewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Maybe this is a good place to discuss this: As an employer in the IT field (programmer), I find that in this tight economy, it is better to outsource some/a lot of my work to russia. I have a team there that works for 10-14/dollars an hour, and deliver much higher quality code then most of the sources I have available in the states. Most of those &#8216;other&#8217; sources are good, but not as good as my russians. And they try to charge over 75/hour. To me, it is a good thing as it adds a level of reality to our world in the U.S. Even network admins anymore think they can charge late 90&#8242;s prices (comparably) when computer solutions have dropped significantly across the board. Moores Law couldn&#8217;t stay consistent forever unless we shot through to quantum computing. With that said, I believe in employing Americans, but I don&#8217;t believe in employing Americans just because they are American. If they do a poor job, charge more, and complain more, I will be next to join the ranks of the unemployed. My russians work cheaper, write in better english than many of my u.s. programmers, don&#8217;t complain at all, and an almost always write better code for the price. Where is my motivation to go elsewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/10/21/obamas-stimulus-promises-result-in-loss-of-2-7-million-jobs/#comment-252995</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capt Steve, I am part of that 131,900 in Georgia. Out sourcing and the economy played a major role as more and more people I know get laid off in the IT industry.

8 months and I can&#039;t find an IT job that is a fit. Job have been combined to cut back on people which makes it harder for candidates to get a &quot;good fit&quot;

Jobs eliminated, funding not approved, eliminated or otherwise re-allocated.

At this rate you will soon see me working for wally world. SHEESH! Talk about over qualified!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Capt Steve, I am part of that 131,900 in Georgia. Out sourcing and the economy played a major role as more and more people I know get laid off in the IT industry.</p>
<p>8 months and I can&#8217;t find an IT job that is a fit. Job have been combined to cut back on people which makes it harder for candidates to get a &#8220;good fit&#8221;</p>
<p>Jobs eliminated, funding not approved, eliminated or otherwise re-allocated.</p>
<p>At this rate you will soon see me working for wally world. SHEESH! Talk about over qualified!</p>
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		<title>By: CaptSteve</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/10/21/obamas-stimulus-promises-result-in-loss-of-2-7-million-jobs/#comment-252934</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one of the 11,700 jobs lost in Nebraska this past year, my job as a Project Manager at an Engineering Design firm was eliminated in April.   Seems the construction of Ethanol plants came to a screeching halt when developers could no longer get any funding from the banks.   Obama &amp; Co gave the big banks lots of bucks to bail them out but they did not pass it along to anyone who could CREATE JOBS.   We&#039;re living in the twilight zone now days.   The banks are using the bail out cash to fund bonuses for ruining their business.  Where I come from, those folks should have been fired, not given bonuses.

As I am over 62 and have a military retirement check coming in, I opted for Social Security and not Unemployment.  I&#039;m not even counted as unemployed though I would love to work if I could find a comparable job without moving (again)......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>As one of the 11,700 jobs lost in Nebraska this past year, my job as a Project Manager at an Engineering Design firm was eliminated in April.   Seems the construction of Ethanol plants came to a screeching halt when developers could no longer get any funding from the banks.   Obama &amp; Co gave the big banks lots of bucks to bail them out but they did not pass it along to anyone who could CREATE JOBS.   We&#8217;re living in the twilight zone now days.   The banks are using the bail out cash to fund bonuses for ruining their business.  Where I come from, those folks should have been fired, not given bonuses.</p>
<p>As I am over 62 and have a military retirement check coming in, I opted for Social Security and not Unemployment.  I&#8217;m not even counted as unemployed though I would love to work if I could find a comparable job without moving (again)&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/10/21/obamas-stimulus-promises-result-in-loss-of-2-7-million-jobs/#comment-252910</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-252908&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AFSarge&lt;/a&gt;: These Obamatons have shown such utter disregard for any quantifiable truth that it&#039;s breathtaking to behold. If anyone believes what they say about jobs or health care they should have their head examined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-252908" rel="nofollow">AFSarge</a>: These Obamatons have shown such utter disregard for any quantifiable truth that it&#8217;s breathtaking to behold. If anyone believes what they say about jobs or health care they should have their head examined.</p>
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		<title>By: AFSarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFSarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you forgot the &quot;un-measurable&quot; saved&quot; jobs.  I&#039;m sure it will be flouted that there would have been 4 million jobs lost if it weren&#039;t for the stimulus package! LOL   I know allot of strategists questioned how you can measure &quot;saved jobs&quot;.  You can’t and that was the brilliance of the term.  Just as you can’t prove “saved jobs”, you can’t disprove it either.  But be honest, with the exception of the military (God Bless ‘em), would you want the government in charge of anything?

Sarge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>But you forgot the &#8220;un-measurable&#8221; saved&#8221; jobs.  I&#8217;m sure it will be flouted that there would have been 4 million jobs lost if it weren&#8217;t for the stimulus package! LOL   I know allot of strategists questioned how you can measure &#8220;saved jobs&#8221;.  You can’t and that was the brilliance of the term.  Just as you can’t prove “saved jobs”, you can’t disprove it either.  But be honest, with the exception of the military (God Bless ‘em), would you want the government in charge of anything?</p>
<p>Sarge</p>
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