As for the attack, I guess that would be 9/11 you’d be referring to- the same 9/11 that Clinton paved the way for with the famous “Gorelik Wall”, where intel agencies could not talk to each other because of orders of the Cigar in Chief- well, if 9/11 is Bush’s baby, and you are not counting demmie “run- over”, then the economy is all Nobummer’s- after all, like Bush, he is here and now- not to mention it was mainly the Liberal pukes who began this economic fiasco with the housing meltdown. ACORN, and all that, you know- Let’s just put the blame squarely where it should go- right on the probie.
He really should listen to Cheney- Cheney is Yoda- Barry is just a wookie here in the scheme of things- with really big ears.

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Moose, Bush was not on the ballot.

And Whoops! Those Club GITMO Boys that Obama and Holder wanted ALL released are up to mischief again…

Another former Gitmo detainee killed in a shootout
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/10/another_former_gitmo.php#ixzz0UdQLDfGd

I just hope they are not holed up in Mooseburg because I’d be tempted to nuke the place.

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moose- You state that the whole conservative philosophy is hope for failure- that would not even be close. Think of us as the guy in the back seat yelling that you are going to hit the tree- I am not hoping that you hit the tree, I am trying to warn you of a deadly situation. You are the one driving- do something.
After all, I am in this car also, and while I might or might not care if you die, I do value my life, and would not want you to hit that tree. Our survival depends on you not hitting the tree.
It looks as if you are bound and determined to hit the tree.
That is the true analogy to why conservatives won’t agree with you liberals.
It would be the death of our country.

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I know why you respond Mata, but moose crap has become little more than a troll.

Afghanistan was mostly calm because Al-Q etc. had set their sites on the Iraq. When it became clear they had lost, they switched back to Afghanistan. On top of that we’ve come to find that our so-called-NATO-allies have done next to nothing and even worse, may have paid off the enemy in one case. It’s appoximately in the last year or so we’ve seen Al-Q and the Taliban make real gains. Yet that is all Bush’s fault? Riiiiiight. Even funnier is now that obama is making things worse, not only does he want us not to notice that, he wants us to think that ignoring our generals is a good thing! I bet moose crap screamed loudly about how Bush “ignored” his generals about Iraq…even though he didn’t.

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Moose: As a candidate, Obama was not only running against McCain/Palin, he was running against Bush, as was the Republican party at the time. Fact is, Bush set the mission in Afghanistan, and he bears responsibility for the war during the 7 years he was President during his tenure of that war.

ah yes. The ol’ “say anything to get elected” argument is posed.

So you’re saying that Bush bears responsibility for the NATO determined mission, but now that Obama is POTUS/CiC, he bears *no* responsibility for that same NATO mission. It’s okay for him to continue to blame Bush, yet fingerpoint elsewhere to sidestep his responsibility for his “new strategy”.

You speak with forked tongue, and blindly apply a different level of accountability from one CiC to the other.

Anything you care to add to “the won’s” stated refusal to commit to listening to his commanders on the ground, as he’s promised over and over? From the NYT’s article that formed the centerpiece of my post reference above…

The administration has made clear that Mr. Obama will not necessarily follow the advice of his generals in the same way Mr. Bush did, notably in the former president’s deference to Gen. David H. Petraeus, now the head of the Central Command, and that it does not want military leaders publicly pressing the commander in chief as they give their advice.

Then, of course, there’s Obama’s own webpage proclaiming “fact checks” on how often he’s promised to do just that.

Not even a slap on the wrist for that, eh?

Pathetic way to form political views, Moose.

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My first comment is stuck in spam….

Blake: I thank my lucky stars that I live in America today, where we can disagree openly.
Of course many here will diss the good General for his comments, but he is entitled to them, he has served our country in the Military, and many do agree with him. Don’t pity me old buddy, and as for gettin’ shot….you just never know how smart some dumb appearing folks are, or who’s packin’ heat and is ready to use it for personal defense when called for…..your pity is wasted, spend it folks who need it, not me. Perhaps you are projecting onto other what you deep inside feel about yourself. You go for the personal attack, at least Mata has some arguments to present.

Mata: As a candidate, Obama was not only running against McCain/Palin, he was running against Bush, as was the Republican party at the time. Fact is, Bush set the mission in Afghanistan, and he bears responsibility for the war during the 7 years he was President during his tenure of that war. Obama is going to be held responsible now, so, as Bush always said, let history be the judge. I’m willing to not condemn the President at this stage of his administration. Most who are against him now were never for him anyway, so, this is one reason that the critics don’t get much traction outside of Right Wing blogs and Fox news. Wolf, Wolf, Wolf! The magic that being called a Socialist, pallin’ with terrorists, and so on did for the Republican party has worn off from over use.

Mike: I am sure many Conservatives are praying bad things will happen to America to pin on Obama. Sorry to hear your one of them. You said:

“When we get attacked again, as our economy stays in the toilet I expect to come back and remind our readers how much you love Obama.”

That seems to be the whole crux of the Conservative strategy, hope for failure. Best of luck.
Obama has already made it farther into his administration Than Bush did without an attack that cost 3000 Americans lives, so other than that one attack, yes, Bush kept us safe, just lets forget Bush was in charge then, it is all and always the Democrats fault, right Mike?

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Aaahhh, Moose- you are no different than the trolls that inhabit my blogsite- pompous asses who have their head firmly stuck in O’bama’s butt. You all sit around in somebody’s mother’s basement, eating hot pockets and reciting your liberal words- “howler” is rather overused, but you all continue to use it as if you were one insane blogger high on meth, going from blog to blog to insert your “feces of wis-dumb”- and you truly have no real clue- that is the truly pathetic part.
That is why I pity people like you- in a world where survival depended on swift, correct action, you would be dead quickly. It is only because we are a compassionate society that slow people are coddled and allowed to survive. Thank your lucky stars you live in the here and now- 100 years ago, someone would have shot you.

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INRE the NSN fantasy world of news, they said:

“The record is clear: Dick Cheney and the Bush administration were incompetent war fighters. They ignored Afghanistan for 7 years with a crude approach to counter-insurgency warfare best illustrated by: 1. Deny it. 2. Ignore it. 3. Bomb it. While our intelligence agencies called the region the greatest threat to America, the Bush White House under-resourced our military efforts, shifted attention to Iraq, and failed to bring to justice the masterminds of September 11.

Wait, wouldn’t that be NATO’s incompetent war? Where they began taking over security for the majority of the country in 2003, and finished in June of 2006?

A little reminder for he-of-gnat-capacity-memory, Moose and his hero at NSN:

“This is not a American battle, this is a Nato mission,” Obama told reporters after the Oval Office meeting, which comes as he launches a series of intense talks on whether to send more US soldiers to the Afghan war.

“We are working actively and diligently to consult with Nato at every step of the way,” Obama said.

Eunuch in Chief, Barack Obama, September 2009

Amazing how throughout Senator and Candidate Obama’s career, Afghanistan was Bush’s fault for “dropping the ball”. Now that he’s POTUS, it suddenly becomes “NATO’s mission”.

Politics of convenience. And what does Gen. Eaton further say?

“As one deeply invested in the Armed Forces of this country, I am grateful for the senior military commanders assigned to leading this fight and the men and women fighting on the ground. But I dismiss men like Cheney who inject partisan politics into the profound deliberations our Commander-in-Chief and commanders on the ground are having to develop a cohesive and comprehensive strategy, bringing to bear the economic and diplomatic as well as the military power, for Afghanistan — something Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld never did.

Really, Gen. Eaton? Where were you when Candidate Obama and his merry band of liberal compadres were doing exactly just that for years over both Iraq and Afghanistan? And how does Eaton’s current statements differentiate him from that of which he accuses Cheney… the 2nd in command of the military at the time?

Appointees of convenience. feh…

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Moose: I couldn’t have said it better myself…..

Well now we know how low the bar is set….

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@mooseburger: @mooseburger: You’re an ASS!

When we get attacked again, as our economy stays in the toilet I expect to come back and remind our readers how much you love Obama.

Contrast that with the Bush years when we were kept safe after 9/11 and the stock market soared until the Democrat created housing bubble burst.

Go suck eggs Moose!

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