Idiots! The AMA, the drug companies, all the idiots that thought they made a deal with administration were obviously asleep during Obama’s campaign. They obviously missed the fine print with the expiration dates.

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@BLOCK THIS

*snif, snif*

Smells like fake Marine to me.

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Halfacarafe

There would be three tiers instead of two. 1) for the ones who can afford better care, 2) for the executive, legislative and judicial bureaucracies an the unions and 3) for the rest of us.

Where does Obama get the idea that doctors can control their patients’ lives? Doctors can talk themselves blue in the face but unless their patients want to change their habits nothing will be done. That is called freedom of choice. Something Obama and his minions want to take away from us.

Since when can the federal government tell us we must buy health insurance? This healthcare mess is not within the realm of the federal government. This is a state issue. The Constitution says plainly that the powers that are not directly awarded to the feds are awarded to the states and there is nothing in the Constitution about health insurance. I am tired of the dems parsing the language to suit their agenda. It seems nothing means anything any more. They push and push to see how far they can go and guess what, they have gone very far indeed.

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We are not even looking at the unintended consequences 1 being 2 tiered medical care. One for the people with enough money to buy better care and 1 tier for the people standing in line. The other being the black market of drugs, devices, and services that may be inferior but people will be willing to pay their life savings to provide comfort to their ills. You cannot stifle capitalism.

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And to add to Curt’s final paragraphs about backfiring without the young and healthy, plus PatVann’s “thus the reason for the back door”, it’s also the reason they are merging it with the HELP July bill that mandates all Americans *will* buy insurance (or be fined/penalized), and all employers *will* contribute to their employees buying insurance.

Rather like the other Ponzi schemes we have in effect, the young, and those who wish to purchase the cadillac supplementary coverage, are to support Obama/Pelosi/Reid’s grand experiment.

Yeah… pay higher taxes, be mandated into purchasing insurance… that all sounds “more affordable”.

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The controls which are known samples that are run 3 times a day to ensure that the analyzer is working are taxed. Numerous testing assays which include the reagents to run the test are taxed. So you could be looking at one lab test having a tax on the analyzer (granted most analyzers run more than one test, but not always), calibrators taxed, controls taxed and reagents taxed.

What this means to the lab, since control and calibrators are extremely expensive, will be a reduction in services provided by hospital laboratories. Sending out tests to a reference lab will be the norm, not the exception. Anytime you send a test out, you lose control of quality assurance. Back in the day, when I was a college student, I worked part time at Smith Kline (now Quest) and ran PT and PTT’s that in any other lab would have been rejected due to low volume of sample. I witnessed a tech run a CBC that was found inside the front panel of Beckman Coulter CBC analyzer. How long was it sitting there, I’ve no idea. Oh, and I loved how a chem tech would supervise the pouring off of serum into analyzer sample cups by lab aides. When a discrepancy was brought to her attention; the tech would simply compare the color of serum left in the tube to what was poured into a sample cup and be on her merry way.

These are but a few issues that Hospitals are unaware of when they send samples to a reference lab. Adding additional costs to the basic materials in the lab will drive labs to increase their send out to reference labs, and in doing so, reduce the number of full time techs as well.

Don’t get me started about the increased turn around time for test results…

Obamacare is bad medicine.

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And thus the reason the next incarnation is being done behind closed doors…They don’t want anyone to see the fineprint, be it doctors or potential patients.

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