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		<title>By: SoCal Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCal Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This email came today (10-8-09) from Michael Yon:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Greetings,

This supposed &quot;low intensity&quot; war is high intensity for the handful on the burning end.  While London and Washington waffle over troop levels, Afghanistan is on course to surpass anything we ever saw in Iraq.  We can still turn this war around but at the current rate surely the war will be lost.  Indecision on a troop increase is a decision to lose the war.  The required information has been presented to leaders in Washington and London.  They have all the information needed to make a decision on troop levels.   Weak civilian leadership is sabotaging the war effort.  

Please see &quot;A Story From War&quot;.

-- 
Very Respectfully,

Michael Yon&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My feelings for the troops&#039; safety, and them being given the resources to do what they&#039;ve been trained to do without being cut off at the knees by those who have the power to give them what they need and don&#039;t, is so intense I am almost speechless.  And, I don&#039;t even have immediate family serving, so can only imagine what the family members, as well as servicemen and women, are struggling with right now.  Not to get too religious, but one thing I do know.  The God I know is more than able to right the wrongs in this situation, and I believe, in due time, will do so.  As Michael Yon said, we can still turn this war around by changing the path it&#039;s currently on. I do believe blogs like this and other voices out there all work together and help to put pressure on those in Washington to effect change where needed.  Don&#039;t give up, and don&#039;t lose heart. 

Godspeed to all of you family members of active military...my prayers are especially with you tonite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This email came today (10-8-09) from Michael Yon:</p>
<blockquote><p>Greetings,</p>
<p>This supposed &#8220;low intensity&#8221; war is high intensity for the handful on the burning end.  While London and Washington waffle over troop levels, Afghanistan is on course to surpass anything we ever saw in Iraq.  We can still turn this war around but at the current rate surely the war will be lost.  Indecision on a troop increase is a decision to lose the war.  The required information has been presented to leaders in Washington and London.  They have all the information needed to make a decision on troop levels.   Weak civilian leadership is sabotaging the war effort.  </p>
<p>Please see &#8220;A Story From War&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Very Respectfully,</p>
<p>Michael Yon</p></blockquote>
<p>My feelings for the troops&#8217; safety, and them being given the resources to do what they&#8217;ve been trained to do without being cut off at the knees by those who have the power to give them what they need and don&#8217;t, is so intense I am almost speechless.  And, I don&#8217;t even have immediate family serving, so can only imagine what the family members, as well as servicemen and women, are struggling with right now.  Not to get too religious, but one thing I do know.  The God I know is more than able to right the wrongs in this situation, and I believe, in due time, will do so.  As Michael Yon said, we can still turn this war around by changing the path it&#8217;s currently on. I do believe blogs like this and other voices out there all work together and help to put pressure on those in Washington to effect change where needed.  Don&#8217;t give up, and don&#8217;t lose heart. </p>
<p>Godspeed to all of you family members of active military&#8230;my prayers are especially with you tonite.</p>
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		<title>By: Patvann</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/10/08/a-watered-down-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-251367</link>
		<dc:creator>Patvann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to apologize to everyone for my loss of control. (The only breakage was the keyboard, but they&#039;re cheap.) Thank you for &quot;feeling&quot; with me. 

With my contacts and old friends I was able to help out after 911. I spent a month in Afghanistan and Kyrgyzstan doing some stuff. It felt great to help. I&#039;ve also done work for the UN in Darfur sneaking out evidence of the mass rapes going on there. I know my 48y/o body ain&#039;t want it used to be, but what remains is ready to be useful.

I will not believe a person who failed to know what the EGA is, was a Marine. Regardless, there are jerks in all the Services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I want to apologize to everyone for my loss of control. (The only breakage was the keyboard, but they&#8217;re cheap.) Thank you for &#8220;feeling&#8221; with me. </p>
<p>With my contacts and old friends I was able to help out after 911. I spent a month in Afghanistan and Kyrgyzstan doing some stuff. It felt great to help. I&#8217;ve also done work for the UN in Darfur sneaking out evidence of the mass rapes going on there. I know my 48y/o body ain&#8217;t want it used to be, but what remains is ready to be useful.</p>
<p>I will not believe a person who failed to know what the EGA is, was a Marine. Regardless, there are jerks in all the Services.</p>
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		<title>By: tfhr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tfhr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blast,

You were a Marine?  What happened to you that you would want to taunt and harangue a family member of someone serving in the Armed Forces of the United States of America?  

Did you get bounced out and now you&#039;re bitter and vindictive?

Or are you something like Murtha, a scumbag that would falsely condemn Marines for the sake of making a cheap political point?  The USMC is a proud organization but every once in a while a Murtha, Lonetree, or Oswald emerges to bring some shame upon themselves but never to the Marines that protect and defend this country.  

One other thing:  Considering the content of much of what you&#039;ve had to say here, I&#039;m surprised to hear that you would want to reveal that about yourself to others.  Could they really be such losers that they too would take pleasure in your behavior?  I suspect you&#039;ve embarrassed yourself closer to home than you realize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Blast,</p>
<p>You were a Marine?  What happened to you that you would want to taunt and harangue a family member of someone serving in the Armed Forces of the United States of America?  </p>
<p>Did you get bounced out and now you&#8217;re bitter and vindictive?</p>
<p>Or are you something like Murtha, a scumbag that would falsely condemn Marines for the sake of making a cheap political point?  The USMC is a proud organization but every once in a while a Murtha, Lonetree, or Oswald emerges to bring some shame upon themselves but never to the Marines that protect and defend this country.  </p>
<p>One other thing:  Considering the content of much of what you&#8217;ve had to say here, I&#8217;m surprised to hear that you would want to reveal that about yourself to others.  Could they really be such losers that they too would take pleasure in your behavior?  I suspect you&#8217;ve embarrassed yourself closer to home than you realize.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/10/08/a-watered-down-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-251359</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata, I question the truth of him being a Marine or a combat vet. Perhaps he provided you proof. At best he strikes me as someone who may have served at the time of the Gulf War and maybe even deployed, but never saw action. Again, I could be wrong.
While I may appreciate his service, his support of those who hate this country and want it destroyed from the inside is dispicable. 

After the bus stop thread I was pretty sure he was a troll. I guess getting his butt handed to him over and over in debates got to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata, I question the truth of him being a Marine or a combat vet. Perhaps he provided you proof. At best he strikes me as someone who may have served at the time of the Gulf War and maybe even deployed, but never saw action. Again, I could be wrong.<br />
While I may appreciate his service, his support of those who hate this country and want it destroyed from the inside is dispicable. </p>
<p>After the bus stop thread I was pretty sure he was a troll. I guess getting his butt handed to him over and over in debates got to him.</p>
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		<title>By: yippie21</title>
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		<dc:creator>yippie21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Marta,  he is a marine and a veteran of war so be it.  His teasing reflects his immaturity and lack of character as I judge him.  A punk who teases and belittles for amusement.  His service and his Marine Corps deserve honor and respect.  His behavior reflects a small man who revels in his smallness.  I feel empathy for the marines on here who read this guy served in the corps.  The Marines can&#039;t overcome some clods shortcomings.  But Blast, thanks for your service and I hope that the reality of war at home for a lot of us isn&#039;t as funny as it probably seems to someone who served over there and doesn&#039;t understand why it&#039;s not all a freakin&#039; joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Well Marta,  he is a marine and a veteran of war so be it.  His teasing reflects his immaturity and lack of character as I judge him.  A punk who teases and belittles for amusement.  His service and his Marine Corps deserve honor and respect.  His behavior reflects a small man who revels in his smallness.  I feel empathy for the marines on here who read this guy served in the corps.  The Marines can&#8217;t overcome some clods shortcomings.  But Blast, thanks for your service and I hope that the reality of war at home for a lot of us isn&#8217;t as funny as it probably seems to someone who served over there and doesn&#8217;t understand why it&#8217;s not all a freakin&#8217; joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Skookum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skookum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patvann I don&#039;t have any kids overseas, but I feel for you.  These Libs don&#039;t serve as a rule and their children never serve.  Try not to let these sick ba$tards get under your skin.  There are many of us who feel your frustration.

A little story, after 9/11 I was in shock like everyone.  I went to Kinko&#039;s and asked them to make a sign for me.  It read, Mr. Bush Do you have a rifle for an Old Marine,  Hell Yes, I&#039;ll Go.  I wanted it just big enough to fit in the rear window of the canopy of my one ton.  

The first surprise I had was the young clerk (I live in Liberal Land) he said, &quot;let me get my manager.&quot;  I thought oh boy, here we go.  

The manager came over and said &quot;cost of materials only&quot; and shook my hand.  I was shocked, I was saving forty dollars!

Then when I drove in traffic, I expected the possibility of a fight.  Instead I got many thumbs up, clenched fists with a smile, and teenagers yelling out support like they were at a football game.  When traffic would stop guys would get out of their cars to shake my hand and tell me of their service and units.  I was proud of my Americans.  I had to drive across country and my wife asked me to take down the sign because the response was too overwhelming.

The point is there are a lot of us who are with you at least spiritually and feel your helplessness at being too old or too far out of it with commitments.  After 9/11 I thought they would call us old timers to armories to pick up rifles and war gear.  I thought we were under attack.  Well here I sit still paying a mortgage watching everything I built in a business gradually slide to hell.  But I think about the young patriots like your son so willing to put it all on the line and an incompetent in the WH that wants to see what the polls say and whether he can squeak a Health Care Bill by the American public while he tightens the Socialist noose around our necks.  

Before long, it wont matter, a bunch of us might as,  oh well, Like I said there are many who admire your family&#039;s service to this country and wish we had some of that same commitment in Washington.  Fare thee well my Friend and God Speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>patvann I don&#8217;t have any kids overseas, but I feel for you.  These Libs don&#8217;t serve as a rule and their children never serve.  Try not to let these sick ba$tards get under your skin.  There are many of us who feel your frustration.</p>
<p>A little story, after 9/11 I was in shock like everyone.  I went to Kinko&#8217;s and asked them to make a sign for me.  It read, Mr. Bush Do you have a rifle for an Old Marine,  Hell Yes, I&#8217;ll Go.  I wanted it just big enough to fit in the rear window of the canopy of my one ton.  </p>
<p>The first surprise I had was the young clerk (I live in Liberal Land) he said, &#8220;let me get my manager.&#8221;  I thought oh boy, here we go.  </p>
<p>The manager came over and said &#8220;cost of materials only&#8221; and shook my hand.  I was shocked, I was saving forty dollars!</p>
<p>Then when I drove in traffic, I expected the possibility of a fight.  Instead I got many thumbs up, clenched fists with a smile, and teenagers yelling out support like they were at a football game.  When traffic would stop guys would get out of their cars to shake my hand and tell me of their service and units.  I was proud of my Americans.  I had to drive across country and my wife asked me to take down the sign because the response was too overwhelming.</p>
<p>The point is there are a lot of us who are with you at least spiritually and feel your helplessness at being too old or too far out of it with commitments.  After 9/11 I thought they would call us old timers to armories to pick up rifles and war gear.  I thought we were under attack.  Well here I sit still paying a mortgage watching everything I built in a business gradually slide to hell.  But I think about the young patriots like your son so willing to put it all on the line and an incompetent in the WH that wants to see what the polls say and whether he can squeak a Health Care Bill by the American public while he tightens the Socialist noose around our necks.  </p>
<p>Before long, it wont matter, a bunch of us might as,  oh well, Like I said there are many who admire your family&#8217;s service to this country and wish we had some of that same commitment in Washington.  Fare thee well my Friend and God Speed.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Blast:  @ Patvann, are you ever mad at the former Administration for not finishing the job in Afg, or is it just all Pres Obama’s fault?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Allow me to remind you, Blast...

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;...&quot;this is not an American battle. This is a NATO mission.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;center&gt;President Barack Hussein Obama, Sept 29, 2009&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll expect a correction from you forthwith....  or perhaps it&#039;s only a NATO battle under your Obama, and an American battle under Bush?

That said, I will inform many here that do not know that Blast is also a Marine, and veteran of the Iraq war.  I can say that I vehemently disagree with him on most occasions, but I do keep in mind he put his life, limb and body on the line for free speech.  Even when that speech is lacking in facts and shy of proper perspective.

As to the subject at hand, I am livid at the fence balancing act this Eunuch in Chief has chosen to play.  Each day he does not make a decision, and balks at committment, more young men die.  A fact that the media, who expressed morbid glee daily with deaths of soldiers in Iraq, see as unimportant now.

It is foolhardy to ignore the *NATO* leadership of McChrystal, as well as the US troops commander, Petreus, requests.  The Eunuch in Chief should either get all in the game, or get all out... and shoulder the blame for the ensuing consequences of retreat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Blast:  @ Patvann, are you ever mad at the former Administration for not finishing the job in Afg, or is it just all Pres Obama’s fault?</p></blockquote>
<p>Allow me to remind you, Blast&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;&#8230;&#8221;this is not an American battle. This is a NATO mission.&#8221;</i></p>
<p><center>President Barack Hussein Obama, Sept 29, 2009</center></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll expect a correction from you forthwith&#8230;.  or perhaps it&#8217;s only a NATO battle under your Obama, and an American battle under Bush?</p>
<p>That said, I will inform many here that do not know that Blast is also a Marine, and veteran of the Iraq war.  I can say that I vehemently disagree with him on most occasions, but I do keep in mind he put his life, limb and body on the line for free speech.  Even when that speech is lacking in facts and shy of proper perspective.</p>
<p>As to the subject at hand, I am livid at the fence balancing act this Eunuch in Chief has chosen to play.  Each day he does not make a decision, and balks at committment, more young men die.  A fact that the media, who expressed morbid glee daily with deaths of soldiers in Iraq, see as unimportant now.</p>
<p>It is foolhardy to ignore the *NATO* leadership of McChrystal, as well as the US troops commander, Petreus, requests.  The Eunuch in Chief should either get all in the game, or get all out&#8230; and shoulder the blame for the ensuing consequences of retreat.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/10/08/a-watered-down-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-251329</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Aye...lately you have become nothing but a troll trying to get reactions from people.  Given you way too many chances as it is from your sockpuppet episode to the racist comment you made.  Your outta here Blast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I agree with Aye&#8230;lately you have become nothing but a troll trying to get reactions from people.  Given you way too many chances as it is from your sockpuppet episode to the racist comment you made.  Your outta here Blast.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/10/08/a-watered-down-surge/comment-page-1/#comment-251324</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-251322&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blast&lt;/a&gt;: 

Wow Dudley....

Is this the way you treat the father of a fellow Marine?

Yesterday you were whining and crying like a seven year old girl because you thought I had been &quot;abusive&quot; to you.

Today you squeeze this out.

Just another example of why you&#039;re less significant than smeared dog feces.

Stay classy Dudley.  Stay classy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-251322" rel="nofollow">Blast</a>: </p>
<p>Wow Dudley&#8230;.</p>
<p>Is this the way you treat the father of a fellow Marine?</p>
<p>Yesterday you were whining and crying like a seven year old girl because you thought I had been &#8220;abusive&#8221; to you.</p>
<p>Today you squeeze this out.</p>
<p>Just another example of why you&#8217;re less significant than smeared dog feces.</p>
<p>Stay classy Dudley.  Stay classy.</p>
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		<title>By: yippie21</title>
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		<dc:creator>yippie21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patvann, hang in there and don&#039;t bust anything around the house and pay &quot;Blast&quot; any more attention than the obvious douche that she is.  Your concern for your son and all servicemen in harms way is well founded and shared by many of us veterans and readers of FA.  Thank you to you and to Nelly who have kids serving; I think it must be much harder being the parent than serving yourself.

The divide between those that serve and have served and those that obviously have no clue of sacrifice or honor could not be better revealed than to see how the libtards are running our country now and the occasional douce who thinks it&#039;s funny to tease.  They know not what they do, and when they&#039;re scared at night, they&#039;ll not know character and resolve, .. .they&#039;ll  quake and cry for someone to help them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Patvann, hang in there and don&#8217;t bust anything around the house and pay &#8220;Blast&#8221; any more attention than the obvious douche that she is.  Your concern for your son and all servicemen in harms way is well founded and shared by many of us veterans and readers of FA.  Thank you to you and to Nelly who have kids serving; I think it must be much harder being the parent than serving yourself.</p>
<p>The divide between those that serve and have served and those that obviously have no clue of sacrifice or honor could not be better revealed than to see how the libtards are running our country now and the occasional douce who thinks it&#8217;s funny to tease.  They know not what they do, and when they&#8217;re scared at night, they&#8217;ll not know character and resolve, .. .they&#8217;ll  quake and cry for someone to help them.</p>
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