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	<title>Comments on: How Can Obama &#8220;Listen to the General&#8221; In Charge of Afghanistan If He Has Only Spoken to Him Once?</title>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Obama Has Only Spoken To The US Commander In Afghanistan Once&#8221; and related posts &#171; Twitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Obama Has Only Spoken To The US Commander In Afghanistan Once&#8221; and related posts &#171; Twitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How Can Obama “Listen to the General” In Charge of Afghanistan If He Has Only Spoken to Him Once... - Flopping Aces [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; War Done Smarter and Cheaper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; War Done Smarter and Cheaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when President Bush was slammed for not listening to his generals (or more accurately, the ones political opponents could agree with)? Remember when Senator Obama parroted the same (Hat [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-250265&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joe Smith&lt;/a&gt;: 

Tommy Franks has a different view.  He has told the American people that he used 9,000 plus U.S. troops to fight the war in Afghanistan, at the start of OIF 10,000 U.S. troops were fighting in Afghanistan.  Now, how many troops has Obama sent over to bring the troop strength up to a bit over 60,000,  21,000?  Leaves me to believe that in spite of the number of troops in Iraq, GWB had increased troop strength over the years in Afghanistan.

Tommy Franks has also spoken against the Shinseki, Powell myth that an &quot;overwhelming force&quot; ground troop strength was asked for in the run up to OIF.  He has stated often times and written in his book, &quot;American Soldier&quot; that he had the troops he wanted and needed, if he wanted more the Bush Admin would have provided them.

President Bush did listen to his generals, ask Casey and Sanchez why they were replaced by Petraeous and Odiarno after their policies failed.  I seem to remember Petraeous had a COIN plan he presented to P Bush prior to being given the job, there P Bush goes, listening to his commanders again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-250265" rel="nofollow">Joe Smith</a>: </p>
<p>Tommy Franks has a different view.  He has told the American people that he used 9,000 plus U.S. troops to fight the war in Afghanistan, at the start of OIF 10,000 U.S. troops were fighting in Afghanistan.  Now, how many troops has Obama sent over to bring the troop strength up to a bit over 60,000,  21,000?  Leaves me to believe that in spite of the number of troops in Iraq, GWB had increased troop strength over the years in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Tommy Franks has also spoken against the Shinseki, Powell myth that an &#8220;overwhelming force&#8221; ground troop strength was asked for in the run up to OIF.  He has stated often times and written in his book, &#8220;American Soldier&#8221; that he had the troops he wanted and needed, if he wanted more the Bush Admin would have provided them.</p>
<p>President Bush did listen to his generals, ask Casey and Sanchez why they were replaced by Petraeous and Odiarno after their policies failed.  I seem to remember Petraeous had a COIN plan he presented to P Bush prior to being given the job, there P Bush goes, listening to his commanders again.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long did it take Bush to listen to our military leaders and commit more troops to Iraq?  That we are in this situation at all is that GB didn&#039;t listen to our military leaders before going into Iraq and didn&#039;t send the number of troops they asked for to start with.   And he took troops from Afghanistan that we are now talking about putting back.</description>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » How Can Obama “Listen to the General” In Charge of Afghanistan If He Has Only Spoken to Him Once? -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » How Can Obama “Listen to the General” In Charge of Afghanistan If He Has Only Spoken to Him Once? -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by FloppingAces. FloppingAces said: How Can Obama “Listen to the General” In Charge of Afghanistan If He Has Only Spoken to Him Once?: .. http://bit.ly/YkQBA [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;US:Obama Talked with His Military Commander Only Once in 70 Days: Is This Any Way for the CIC to Run a War&#8230;&#8230;.?&#8221; and related posts - KuASha Organization</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;US:Obama Talked with His Military Commander Only Once in 70 Days: Is This Any Way for the CIC to Run a War&#8230;&#8230;.?&#8221; and related posts - KuASha Organization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Old Trooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama talks and does not listen. Surprised? 
I am not.</description>
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I am not.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing elections don&#039;t matter - but they do.  Who ever voted for Obama will have to live with that decision.</description>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; A Brief Timeline of President Obama&#8217;s Benchmark Statements on the &#8220;War of Necessity&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; A Brief Timeline of President Obama&#8217;s Benchmark Statements on the &#8220;War of Necessity&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And now as public opinion has turned south and his left-wing base continues their chorus of retreat and defeat, President Obama has begun wavering and displaying the perception of weakness. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice that the Olympics in Chicago are more important than war.</description>
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