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		<title>By: &#187; Daily Links II &#8211; 09/23/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Daily Links II &#8211; 09/23/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ThomNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThomNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I chuckle when I hear some news guy or read an article about &quot;obama&#039;s poll numbers drop....though his personal ratings remain high&quot;.....the lefty media just can&#039;t stand his fall.

I heard Beck&#039;s comment about McCainbeing worse for the country than obama - even though I voted for McCain at the time - it was a really tough thing to do, and in retrospect - I do believe Beck is correct.  I liken it to the case we now have in New Jersey - the real conservative (Steve Lonegan) was knocked out in the primary (in great part because the republican establishment didn&#039;t stand behind him and chose a RINO instead), and now we are stuck with a far left Corzine vs. RINO Chris CHristie.  I don&#039;t think that Christie would do much more as governor than the current imbecile - the only thing that will happen is that in a few years ALL the problems will now be republican problems and subsequently hurt us long-term.  As bad as obama is, at least he is creating negative democrat issues (along with his cronies in congress), and at least McCain isn&#039;t out there doing some of the same - he is a RINO for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I chuckle when I hear some news guy or read an article about &#8220;obama&#8217;s poll numbers drop&#8230;.though his personal ratings remain high&#8221;&#8230;..the lefty media just can&#8217;t stand his fall.</p>
<p>I heard Beck&#8217;s comment about McCainbeing worse for the country than obama &#8211; even though I voted for McCain at the time &#8211; it was a really tough thing to do, and in retrospect &#8211; I do believe Beck is correct.  I liken it to the case we now have in New Jersey &#8211; the real conservative (Steve Lonegan) was knocked out in the primary (in great part because the republican establishment didn&#8217;t stand behind him and chose a RINO instead), and now we are stuck with a far left Corzine vs. RINO Chris CHristie.  I don&#8217;t think that Christie would do much more as governor than the current imbecile &#8211; the only thing that will happen is that in a few years ALL the problems will now be republican problems and subsequently hurt us long-term.  As bad as obama is, at least he is creating negative democrat issues (along with his cronies in congress), and at least McCain isn&#8217;t out there doing some of the same &#8211; he is a RINO for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch the disapprovals drop again, CBO just confirmed the boy wonder lied to the seniors about medicare in the big speech to Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Watch the disapprovals drop again, CBO just confirmed the boy wonder lied to the seniors about medicare in the big speech to Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-249630&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;herman&lt;/a&gt;: 

Cleanup on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/22/obamas-general-may-resign-if-not-given-enough-troops-to-win/#comment-249598&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Aisle 11.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-249630" rel="nofollow">herman</a>: </p>
<p>Cleanup on <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/22/obamas-general-may-resign-if-not-given-enough-troops-to-win/#comment-249598" rel="nofollow"><strong>Aisle 11.</strong></a></p>
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		<title>By: herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate Silver also notes

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Buried in the cross-tabs of the new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll is a question that takes a temperature reading of Glenn Beck. Beck actually makes out pretty well. While just 24 percent of Americans have a favorable view of him (13 percent strongly so), only 19 percent have an unfavorable one (14 percent strongly). That leaves 57 percent who either don&#039;t know Beck or are indifferent toward him.

This compares quite favorably to, for example, Rush Limbaugh, who was the subject of a similar question in the NBC/WSJ poll in June. Limbaugh was regarded favorably by 23 percent of Americans, but unfavorably by 50 percent -- including 37 percent who held a strongly negative view. This is not a new problem for Limbaugh, incidentally, who has been roughly this unpopular since at least 1995.

The difference between Beck and Limbaugh is that Beck is much more of an anti-establishment figure. I have posited before that running perpendicular to the traditional liberal-conservative spectrum is an establishment/anti-establishment spectrum; Beck is conservative but anti-establishment. And that may be working out pretty well for him, since the country seems to be becoming more anti-establishment too.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The other, and perhaps more salient, difference between Rush and Beck, is time. Rush is practically an conservative institution, whereas beck is just getting started having come from a news cable channel that hardly anyone knew even existed. Secondly, Rush may be more anti establishment than Silver thinks.  If one recalls his comments regarding John McCain campaign they were pretty bad.  ...of course, they aren&#039;t as bad as Beck&#039;s recent comment: &quot;McCain would have been worse then Obama&quot;.  Furthermore, how anti-establishment can Beck be if, as he stated himself, he might have voted for Clinton if McCain got the nomination. 

In any case, some more time will permit us to gain a closer look to discover if Beck is really just riding an anti-establishment wave or if he is another flavor of GOP conservativism; it can&#039;t be both.  My thinking on the matter is he needs more of a public viewing, as so few people, according to the poll, even know who he is.  Presently, I&#039;m persuaded that they are cousins in the same extended family with similar goals yet deploying different tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Nate Silver also notes</p>
<blockquote><p>
Buried in the cross-tabs of the new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll is a question that takes a temperature reading of Glenn Beck. Beck actually makes out pretty well. While just 24 percent of Americans have a favorable view of him (13 percent strongly so), only 19 percent have an unfavorable one (14 percent strongly). That leaves 57 percent who either don&#8217;t know Beck or are indifferent toward him.</p>
<p>This compares quite favorably to, for example, Rush Limbaugh, who was the subject of a similar question in the NBC/WSJ poll in June. Limbaugh was regarded favorably by 23 percent of Americans, but unfavorably by 50 percent &#8212; including 37 percent who held a strongly negative view. This is not a new problem for Limbaugh, incidentally, who has been roughly this unpopular since at least 1995.</p>
<p>The difference between Beck and Limbaugh is that Beck is much more of an anti-establishment figure. I have posited before that running perpendicular to the traditional liberal-conservative spectrum is an establishment/anti-establishment spectrum; Beck is conservative but anti-establishment. And that may be working out pretty well for him, since the country seems to be becoming more anti-establishment too.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The other, and perhaps more salient, difference between Rush and Beck, is time. Rush is practically an conservative institution, whereas beck is just getting started having come from a news cable channel that hardly anyone knew even existed. Secondly, Rush may be more anti establishment than Silver thinks.  If one recalls his comments regarding John McCain campaign they were pretty bad.  &#8230;of course, they aren&#8217;t as bad as Beck&#8217;s recent comment: &#8220;McCain would have been worse then Obama&#8221;.  Furthermore, how anti-establishment can Beck be if, as he stated himself, he might have voted for Clinton if McCain got the nomination. </p>
<p>In any case, some more time will permit us to gain a closer look to discover if Beck is really just riding an anti-establishment wave or if he is another flavor of GOP conservativism; it can&#8217;t be both.  My thinking on the matter is he needs more of a public viewing, as so few people, according to the poll, even know who he is.  Presently, I&#8217;m persuaded that they are cousins in the same extended family with similar goals yet deploying different tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnMonterey</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnMonterey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-249603&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;URI&lt;/a&gt;: Rahm?  You mean the ballet dancer?  He would have had to call his Dad.  I would think that might have been the thing that turned him into an adult bully, misusing his power.  

As for 0zer0, Mommy wasn&#039;t around that much...unless you count the school he attended in Indonesia where Step-Daddy enrolled him as a Muslim.  I doubt he had any fights with his own kind.  Now, Vanny...there&#039;s a street thug for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-249603" rel="nofollow">URI</a>: Rahm?  You mean the ballet dancer?  He would have had to call his Dad.  I would think that might have been the thing that turned him into an adult bully, misusing his power.  </p>
<p>As for 0zer0, Mommy wasn&#8217;t around that much&#8230;unless you count the school he attended in Indonesia where Step-Daddy enrolled him as a Muslim.  I doubt he had any fights with his own kind.  Now, Vanny&#8230;there&#8217;s a street thug for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Trooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not so much a case of approval as much as it is disapproval. Failed Domestic and Foreign Policy has a way of doing just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This is not so much a case of approval as much as it is disapproval. Failed Domestic and Foreign Policy has a way of doing just that.</p>
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		<title>By: URI</title>
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		<dc:creator>URI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you read the article on CNN? Borger wants Obama to became &quot;BOSS OBAMA&quot; Can you believe these peole! The President cannot even kill a fly, he has skinny legs and no muscles! Maybe Rahm or van Jones, but Barry...Can you picture him fist fighting the guys after school? He probably called his mom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Did you read the article on CNN? Borger wants Obama to became &#8220;BOSS OBAMA&#8221; Can you believe these peole! The President cannot even kill a fly, he has skinny legs and no muscles! Maybe Rahm or van Jones, but Barry&#8230;Can you picture him fist fighting the guys after school? He probably called his mom.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnMonterey</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnMonterey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear.  I&#039;m an Independent who voted straight Republican this past election.  I&#039;ll never vote Democrat again.  Ever.

I wonder if there are any new poll numbers on 0zer0&#039;s disapproval ratings and/or the so-called health care plan after his media saturation this weekend?  I predicted that his numbers would be even worse following his attempt to lie his way into support for his boondoggle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Good to hear.  I&#8217;m an Independent who voted straight Republican this past election.  I&#8217;ll never vote Democrat again.  Ever.</p>
<p>I wonder if there are any new poll numbers on 0zer0&#8242;s disapproval ratings and/or the so-called health care plan after his media saturation this weekend?  I predicted that his numbers would be even worse following his attempt to lie his way into support for his boondoggle.</p>
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