Awe, come on you Conservatives, this should be a bi-partisan Bill, your spoiling the moment with all this decent. It’s easy, have you ever went to buy a car? Remember the nice man that told you all about the car, you know the honest one who would never lie about a nice ole lady owning it.

It’s easy, just put your brain to sleep, fall in line behind the Pied Piper Obama, and sing Kum-by-Ya and drink the cool aide when it’s handed to you…

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@wardogs:

I think some don’t get it. It’s like a u-turn. Legal unless otherwise indicated.

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Blast- I am guessing that Rep. Wilson has more respect for THE OFFICE of the presidency than Demmies do- I know I damn sure do not respect the man who sits in that office, that’s for sure. He has proven to be a liar, straight up, and that’s just the good side of him.
As I said, I would not apologize, but then I have a very Low BS tolerance, and a disability I call “Voluntary Tourette’s”, so Hussein would have heard a lot more from me.
That is why I am not a Politician.

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Considering that obama was smearing Republicans and lying about them and their positions, JW’s response was understandable. To get respect you must give it.
Any more, I’m going to handle such things like the dems do. I’m going to excuse it.

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@Wordsmith:

Here’s another sick lie he walked into the hallowed hall and told, one he’s repeated:

From Obama’s speech:

“One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because his insurer found that he hadn’t reported gallstones that he didn’t even know about. They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it.”

This is the sad story of Mr. Otto Raddatz, a case that Mr. Obama has cited several times before, including in his August 16th editorial in the New York Times.

For the record, however, the case is not exactly the way Mr. Obama has characterized it, at least according to the sworn testimony of Mr. Raddatz’s sister.

And, the rest of the story:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-story-about-lost-insurance

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Blake: And I never heard outrage when the Demmies were Booing Bush in the 2005 State of the Union Speech- where was your outrage then?

Oh, so that makes it right? Booing the President of the US is wrong, whether it be Bush or Obama or whoever comes next.

Wilson will need your money, give him more.

Wilson apologized for his actions, why apologize if he did nothing wrong?

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Wardogs- the mandatory compliance was always there in HR3200-, including giving the IRS the power to go into your bank accounts and withdraw whatever they felt was “your fair share”.

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Hey Blast- I live in Texas, but I just sent Joe Wilson 100 dollars- Hell, I woulda paid that much to say that myself. The facts are that He LIES, period. The fact that he is the Resident doesn’t make a bit of difference. You have to call the liars on their lies, or they begin to believe that they can get away with their BS, and this guy is a BIG BSer, maybe the biggest.
And I never heard outrage when the Demmies were Booing Bush in the 2005 State of the Union Speech- where was your outrage then?

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The fact is…he DID lie. More than that, he KNEW that he was lying, not just about illegals, but other points as well.

Just on illegals being covered… What changed was, and what all the sycophants are spewing as the new talking point, (and I suspect was added for just that purpose), is the following:

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 – NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS: Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

I see it all over the blogs this morning and about 50 times in Youtube video comments. They say Obama was correct because Section 246 of the House Bill excludes illegals from receiving Individual Affordability Credits. That is true, and one of the few exceptions under the Bill. But it is the exception which proves the rule. IAC’s are just one small part of the benefits covered in the bill. If the standard is the full House Bill, HR3200, then it appears that Obama was lying through his teeth. There is nothing in HR3200 that excludes illegal aliens from any of the OTHER various coverage provisions (with a few limited exceptions).

As Aye states above, the Congressional Research Service agrees with this assessment. The full report is linked here:

Treatment of non citizens in HR 3200
http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/R40773_20090825.pdf

It’s not that long a report, and I highly recommend it be read. It deals just with the question of illegals.

The Congressional Research Service (CRS), is the public policy research arm of the United States Congress. It’s a legislative branch agency within the Library of Congress, CRS works exclusively and directly for Members of Congress, their Committees and staff. Their job is to “interpret” bills for idiot legislators too lazy or ignorant to either read them themselves or understand them if they actually do…

For example, with regard to health care exchanges, the CRS found:

H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens—whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently—participating in the Exchange.

As the CRS found, illegal aliens can participate in virtually ALL of the critical aspects of the government health system including the health care exchanges. Since Obama wanted a full House vote passing HR3200 prior to the August recess, Obama was okay with a bill that included illegal aliens. Will these provisions be in a final bill? Count on it. They are designed to not just cover illegals, but to fast track amnesty as well.

How do I get there?

Obama added another new section last night, and to me, it’s a marvel of duplicity; mandatory compliance. EVERYONE has to have insurance. More than being (IMHO) unconstitutional, it appears to have a more nefarious purpose. If everyone has to have insurance, it will be interesting to see how long the exclusion of illegal aliens from getting the credits lasts, since as the CRS notes, illegal aliens are subject to the health care mandate; one can anticipate the argument that if the House Bill requires illegals to have qualified health insurance, some accommodation needs to be made for those who cannot afford it. What might that accommodation be, I wonder…

I bet La Raza and other groups representing illegals that are pushing so hard for this legislation know…

Amnesty. With Obama, you always watch the other hand, not the shiny thing he’s showing…

(h/t to Legal Insurrection for info on CRS)

wardogs

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Congressman Joe Wilson will give those Obama haters on the right a woodie, and at the same time showing disrespect to the President of the United States he looses everyone else. Wilson’s opponent in the next election has raised $100,000 overnight.

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