@Fit fit:

The Intrade conventional wisdom has it at about a 40% chance of passing.

Someone mentioned INTrade, yes? That number is now down to 14.1%.

Here’s the question they are asking:

Will a federal government run health insurance plan (a public option) be approved in the US?
A federal government run health insurance plan to be approved before midnight ET 31 Dec 2009

My, my how quickly things change.

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I have been practicing Family Medicine/General Practice for fifty years now and intend to keep doing so as long as God gives me the strength. I know my fellow doctors and my patients well. This onerous legislation is designed to concentrate political power in the hands of government. It must go down. I am appalled as a physician and as an citizen of our beloved America. Thank you for your excellent site. We are many; we are angry and we will fight.
Dr. Delaney

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The last question should’ve been is congress and the president going yo be force into the same coverage and out of the high dollar programs they’re in now.

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It is a real shame that good doctors spend years in med school and in residency, only to be told half of what you make goes for malpractice insurance all the while paying their fair share of taxes to boot. The problem is frivolous lawsuits. Granted, there are some doctors who are in it for the money and could care less about their patients and does not give them good care. They deserve to be sued. The ones I am talking about are the ones who will pull double-duty and will go out of their way to ensure their patients are properly cared for. I have had both kinds in my old age. I have never sued a doctor, but on one ocassion had reason to. Except for that one doctor, every one I have had has been exceptional in their care of me and my family. Too many good doctors are being forced out of their profession due to ambulance chasing lawyers.

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@Mike’s America:

Down at our farm expectant mothers have a choice, they either travel 40 miles up into Iowa or travel 40 miles to another town in Missouri. We have a hospital 13 miles away but they quit delivering years ago.

That hospital might as well be a walk in clinic, we had an eleven year old boy break his arm while visiting, I had to drive him home, 389 miles with a broken arm, he was a tough little trooper.

Our neighbor’s daughter was in an auto accident, she had no life threatening injuries, they air lifted her to Des Moines, same with her brother after he was thrown off a 4-wheeler. They had whatever insurance Wal-Mart offers because the mother works there full time.

Our friends live off the blacktop about five miles down gravel roads, they’re on a registry to be airlifted in case of emergency, the local hospital isn’t interested in treating them, both have catastrophic illnesses, the wife is on medicare and the husband has VA. They travel to St. Joseph and Des Moines for office appointments because….ta da….no doctors in that area taking medicare/medicaid patients and of course, he has to go to the VA.

After office hours that hospital doesn’t even keep a doctor on call. My daughter had an asthma attack and they had to call a doctor in from home to come and treat her, but, she did recieve treatment and they did keep her overnight until she was stable.

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@Missy: And my father, who quit practicing after 40 years because the malpractice insurance rates caused by frivolous law suits was so high was the only OB-GYN in town that would take Medicaid patients.

It was total B.S. how hard he had to work just to get his money from Medicaid only to turn around and pay it to a lawyer.

I don’t know who the poor go to for OB-GYN services in town anymore. I suppose they are all forced to go to some far away clinic and be treated like cattle.

And Dems are directly responsible for that sad state of affairs. They created this bureaucratic and legal nightmare and they have refused EVERY effort to correct these problems as the recent votes in House committees against GOP amendments to the health bill show.

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@Real American Patriot:

AKA Proud Franken Voter.

Jumping on the insurance company boogey man train, are you? Let’s give you another boogey man. Evil doctors. Yep, evil doctors that are no longer taking medicare/medicaid patients because of the efficiency of the government. Read it and weep:

Here’s an evil doctor that may lose her practice due to the efficiency of the government’s reimbursement rates:

http://a.abcnews.com/m/screen?id=5326078&pid=26

Here’s two evil clinics that shut down and another evil doctor that closed his practice due to the efficiency of the government’s reimbursement rates:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11928468

More evil…

Doctors Are Opting Out of Medicare

http://aaucm.org/About/News/NewsDetail.aspx?a=966

Now we can add your source to once again prove the government is not capable of running anything. This site, the example you, the “proud Franken voter” boasts as some kind of proof that this boondoggle is worthwhile is like Obama using the FedEx, UPS/post office example to support his argument.

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# 15 KJC:

“Medicare has a 74 trillion dollar unfunded liability,so can we quit using that program as the shining beacon of government efficiency?”

And why, one would ask, is that liability unfunded?

Medicare was a dedicated tax placed upon citizens through their payroll checks. That money was held in escrow by the Government, if you will, for a ‘down the road’ medical coverage. The money that was placed into the Medicare fund was raped and pillaged a long time ago and thrown into the General Budget, to fund liberal pet projects. Now that there is economic h*ll to pay for that decision years ago, Obama wants to kill off those who funded Medicare in the first place: Those who worked their entire lives on the books and are now retired, expecting something from the Government for all the money the Government took as a matter of course for all those years.

The amazing thing to me is that this Administration gets away with one lie after another, one fact misstated after one more fact misstated. No one ever calls them on it. They are lying so brazenly now, it’s gone beyond kabuki theater and become a theater of the absurd. Socialism at Ludicrous Speed.

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Real American Patriot:

Welllll..actually, I read the craplink you put out the first time back up on the thread on #14, and your putting it out again a few of posts above on #25 didn’t improve the smell none.

The ‘facts’ are as you behold them, and with those rosy tinted glasses, along with whatever else it is you are smoking, the ‘facts’ ain’t gone change none for ‘Real’AmericanPatriots.

The ‘Real’ fact is that this drivel you linked into to substantiate your contentions is nothing but something spewing out of the south end of a horse traveling north.

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