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	<title>Comments on: 80% Of Those Who Voted For Obama Support Legal Concealed Carry Of Firearms [Reader Post]</title>
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		<title>By: ditto</title>
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		<dc:creator>ditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Trizzlor

The Bill of Rights far predates the 14th Amendment and was an agreed upon requirement to be incorporated into the Constitution before the 1st constitutional Congress was allowed to even vote on ratifying the Constitution.  Nor did the 14th Amendment take away any of the protection of those rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. Get your head out of your ass and learn how to do your research properly. Read the Federalist Papers, the Anti Federalist Papers. and the writings of the founding Fathers which were quite clear on this issue. The Supreme Court recognized what we knew all along (that the Second Amendment portion of the Bill of Rights is an individual Constitutional Right.)  Learn the historical facts instead, of constantly spewing your delusional, idiotic fabrications. You are beginning to sound like a rabid psychotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@Trizzlor</p>
<p>The Bill of Rights far predates the 14th Amendment and was an agreed upon requirement to be incorporated into the Constitution before the 1st constitutional Congress was allowed to even vote on ratifying the Constitution.  Nor did the 14th Amendment take away any of the protection of those rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. Get your head out of your ass and learn how to do your research properly. Read the Federalist Papers, the Anti Federalist Papers. and the writings of the founding Fathers which were quite clear on this issue. The Supreme Court recognized what we knew all along (that the Second Amendment portion of the Bill of Rights is an individual Constitutional Right.)  Learn the historical facts instead, of constantly spewing your delusional, idiotic fabrications. You are beginning to sound like a rabid psychotic.</p>
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		<title>By: trizzlor</title>
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		<dc:creator>trizzlor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Judge Sotomayor does not believe the Second Amendment right to “keep and bear arms” and the right to self-defense are fundamental rights of all Americans. Specifically, Judge Sotomayor believes the Second Amendment only applies to the federal government and does not apply to the States, as indicated by her recent testimony and past rulings.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unless you know of a Supreme Court decision where the 2nd amendment was &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_(Bill_of_Rights)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;incorporated&lt;/a&gt; into the 14th, then it&#039;s not a fundamental right in the legal sense - pure and simple. The closest you&#039;ve got is the 9th circuit appeals decision which is a major judicial overstep - the appeals court is not entitled to update the Constitution, merely to interpret precedent. This is the same kind of legislating from the bench that made the 9th circuit so well known; and now you&#039;re demanding it from a SCOTUS nominee?

I&#039;m in support of incorporation, in short order the Maloney decision will make it up to the Supreme level and likely become a fundamental right. But it&#039;s absurd to demand that Sotomayor should have legislated precedent in this decision, when even Scalia avoided doing so in Heller. A little judicial background would go a long way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Judge Sotomayor does not believe the Second Amendment right to “keep and bear arms” and the right to self-defense are fundamental rights of all Americans. Specifically, Judge Sotomayor believes the Second Amendment only applies to the federal government and does not apply to the States, as indicated by her recent testimony and past rulings.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unless you know of a Supreme Court decision where the 2nd amendment was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_(Bill_of_Rights)" rel="nofollow">incorporated</a> into the 14th, then it&#8217;s not a fundamental right in the legal sense &#8211; pure and simple. The closest you&#8217;ve got is the 9th circuit appeals decision which is a major judicial overstep &#8211; the appeals court is not entitled to update the Constitution, merely to interpret precedent. This is the same kind of legislating from the bench that made the 9th circuit so well known; and now you&#8217;re demanding it from a SCOTUS nominee?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in support of incorporation, in short order the Maloney decision will make it up to the Supreme level and likely become a fundamental right. But it&#8217;s absurd to demand that Sotomayor should have legislated precedent in this decision, when even Scalia avoided doing so in Heller. A little judicial background would go a long way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: luva the scissors</title>
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		<dc:creator>luva the scissors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kinda funny, some of the biggest gun nuts i know claim to be dems.  just wish we could get ahold of the ammo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>kinda funny, some of the biggest gun nuts i know claim to be dems.  just wish we could get ahold of the ammo.</p>
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		<title>By: ThomNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThomNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Aye - I did find that, but that is about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thanks, Aye &#8211; I did find that, but that is about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-234019&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ThomNJ&lt;/a&gt;: 

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.olearyreport.com/media/pdf/PR_SotomayorCmteVote_072709-v2.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is a little more info,&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; but still not as detailed as you are looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-234019" rel="nofollow">ThomNJ</a>: </p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.olearyreport.com/media/pdf/PR_SotomayorCmteVote_072709-v2.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here is a little more info,</a></strong> but still not as detailed as you are looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: ThomNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThomNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I can&#039;t find a reference to the poll on Zogby&#039;s site, and I can&#039;t get any more info than what is on the news release from O&#039;Leary.  I was curious to see how many persons were polled and where, etc.  I was dying to see the results from New Jersey.  Is this for real?  (Or am I doing something wrong?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Hmm, I can&#8217;t find a reference to the poll on Zogby&#8217;s site, and I can&#8217;t get any more info than what is on the news release from O&#8217;Leary.  I was curious to see how many persons were polled and where, etc.  I was dying to see the results from New Jersey.  Is this for real?  (Or am I doing something wrong?)</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV84OBtGpSQ&amp;feature=player_embedded&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boxer says&lt;/a&gt; she can tell that they’re fakes, because they’re too well dressed.
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This proves it for me  ..  the Code Pink, ACORN and MoveOn.org folks just have no fashion sense whatsoever.</description>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV84OBtGpSQ&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">Boxer says</a> she can tell that they’re fakes, because they’re too well dressed.
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<p>This proves it for me  ..  the Code Pink, ACORN and MoveOn.org folks just have no fashion sense whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: OLDPUPPYMAX</title>
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		<dc:creator>OLDPUPPYMAX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally the government owned MSM will do its best to make certain voters don&#039;t know anything about this radical leftists beliefs. Hussein is a radical gun-grabber, yet he was able to lie quite effectively about his 2nd amendment beliefs with 24/7 media backing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Naturally the government owned MSM will do its best to make certain voters don&#8217;t know anything about this radical leftists beliefs. Hussein is a radical gun-grabber, yet he was able to lie quite effectively about his 2nd amendment beliefs with 24/7 media backing!</p>
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		<title>By: savage24</title>
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		<dc:creator>savage24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Second Amendment is part of the Constitution, and I will not vote for any Senator that votes for anybody  that does not believe in the Constitution. In fact I don&#039;t believe there are very many Senators and Congressmen that believe in it either. It&#039;s time to throw them all out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The Second Amendment is part of the Constitution, and I will not vote for any Senator that votes for anybody  that does not believe in the Constitution. In fact I don&#8217;t believe there are very many Senators and Congressmen that believe in it either. It&#8217;s time to throw them all out.</p>
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