@GaffaUK: What is it that you simply refuse to understand about a desire to stick to topic?

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@Mike

I guess McCarthy is thorn in the conservative side when talking about the Cold war. Best forgotten eh?

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@GaffaUK: The issue of McCarthy is completly irrelevant here. I am not under any obligation to stand by and watch you hijack the subject here and derail this discussion.

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@Mike

Hmmm – so you are now policing tangents – or only tangents expressed by those who’s views you don’t happen to fully agree with? Plenty of tangents on the other threads. If Reagan won the Cold War – then McCarthy played a role during that struggle. And Reagan stood up to McCarthy’s game of whipping up rabid anti-communism. I’m happy discuss Reagan’s role but we also need context and the roles played by others. How pivotal do you believe Gorbachev was to the downfall of the USSR. Surely he’s not a tangent in this is he!? lol

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@GaffaUK: I realize you would rather discuss ANY topic other than the role Reagan played in winning the Cold War and how important his stand against appeasement was. But McCarthy is NOT relevant to that discussion.

I would advise H.R. not to get sucked in to playing your game. Stick to the topic.

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@Mike

Well Hard Right is discussing appeasers of Communism and the Cold War. So how big a link do you need to McCarthy?

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@GaffaUK: Is that in any way relevant to the topic here?

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@Hard Right

So what’s your views on McCarthy?

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Larry #13, you cite a far left site as your source? Oy vey.
As for the failed hostage rescue, IIRC his micromanagement and mismanagement were key issues in it’s failure.
Look larry, the commies KNEW carter was a gutless appeaser and used that to their advantage, as did the terrorists. Here’s but one example. The American Embassy in Russia? Remember how that turned out?

As for the other dem presidents before carter, they would today be considered moderate Republicans and run out of the dem party like Lieberman was. It should also be pointed out that leftwing dems in Congress were in fact some of the biggest appeasers of communism and did everything they could to undermine our efforts in the Cold War.
That is why I meet a lot of Independants that used to be dems. They tell me they didn’t leave the party, it left them.

BTW, my father guarded carter of a few ocassions as well as Reagan.

Carter: Elitest, arrogant jerk who made clear how much he disliked those pulling Secret Service duty. He regarded them a nuissance.

Reagan: Very friendly and warm, remembered the agents names and even whether they were married or had kids.

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@openid.aol.com/runnswim said: “Democratic President Jimmy Carter, who originated the strategy of supporting the Afghans against the Soviets. The Soviet/Afghan War did vastly more to bring down the Evil Empire than did the hypothetical threat of Star Wars. “

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA~!!!!!

Larry, you really should quit your day job and just focus on your stand up comedy routine. Try that line in any serious school of history or international relations and the laughter will be deafening.

You are so out of touch with historical reality that it ain’t funny.

You cite Gorbachev earlier…. maybe you’d like to know that he admits that SDI forced the Soviets to concede in the Cold War.

Do me a favor and watch the video before you comment again with such blatant ignorance and revisionist viewpoints.

P.S. I know Brzezinski personally. He rarely gave Carter credit for anything.

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