Comments on: Marines Begin Operation To Clear Taliban Out Of Helmand Valley In Afghanistan http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/03/marines-begin-operation-to-clear-taliban-out-of-helmand-valley-in-afghanistan/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=marines-begin-operation-to-clear-taliban-out-of-helmand-valley-in-afghanistan Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:53:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Spike http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/03/marines-begin-operation-to-clear-taliban-out-of-helmand-valley-in-afghanistan/#comment-219024 Spike Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:23:34 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=24166#comment-219024 "D Day" moment! Please do not compare 4000 marines in the Stan to the D DAY Invasion.

“D Day” moment! Please do not compare 4000 marines in the Stan to the D DAY Invasion.

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]]> By: blast http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/03/marines-begin-operation-to-clear-taliban-out-of-helmand-valley-in-afghanistan/#comment-218851 blast Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:31:36 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=24166#comment-218851 <blockquote>Old Trooper: The last Commander there was relieved in part because he did request more forces. </blockquote> Didn't the former commander fit the old world profile of conventional warfare vs. asymmetrical (use of special forces)? This seems to be just a bitch against Pres Obama, while forgetting we are trying to win a war against the enemy that attacked us on 9/11. I applaud Pres Obama for making the change in leadership and refocusing our attention on KICKING SOME TALIBAN AND AQ ASS.

Old Trooper: The last Commander there was relieved in part because he did request more forces.

Didn’t the former commander fit the old world profile of conventional warfare vs. asymmetrical (use of special forces)? This seems to be just a bitch against Pres Obama, while forgetting we are trying to win a war against the enemy that attacked us on 9/11. I applaud Pres Obama for making the change in leadership and refocusing our attention on KICKING SOME TALIBAN AND AQ ASS.

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]]> By: Old Trooper http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/03/marines-begin-operation-to-clear-taliban-out-of-helmand-valley-in-afghanistan/#comment-218753 Old Trooper Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:11:52 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=24166#comment-218753 Helmand is a very rugged piece of real estate. Hot this time of year, dusty, sparsely populated and close enough to Pak for the Taliban thugs to use the Pak border sanctuaries if they aren't blocked from escaping. The mission has potential to be successful if there were more boots on the ground to do do a thorough the sweep and more forces to block the escape routes. With the current force level it is cat and mouse and with the Taliban types familiar with the ground and able to pick and choose their fights at their discretion. The troop levels need to be increased as the Afghan Army does not have the numbers to secure their territory and so far are unable to effectively handle the task. Obama put out a lot of smoke & noise during his Campaign on how the real effort needs to be in the Stans and increasing the troop numbers. The last Commander there was relieved in part because he did request more forces. Our NATO Allies are so encumbered by the limitations on their own Rules of Engagement that they are, with the exception of the Brits and Australians, just tourists in uniforms. I wish the Marines success but this is just a dangerous job of cat & mouse with not enough cats deployed. Insufficient resources for the tasking. I was there in 02' but further north than Helmand.

Helmand is a very rugged piece of real estate. Hot this time of year, dusty, sparsely populated and close enough to Pak for the Taliban thugs to use the Pak border sanctuaries if they aren’t blocked from escaping.

The mission has potential to be successful if there were more boots on the ground to do do a thorough the sweep and more forces to block the escape routes. With the current force level it is cat and mouse and with the Taliban types familiar with the ground and able to pick and choose their fights at their discretion. The troop levels need to be increased as the Afghan Army does not have the numbers to secure their territory and so far are unable to effectively handle the task.

Obama put out a lot of smoke & noise during his Campaign on how the real effort needs to be in the Stans and increasing the troop numbers. The last Commander there was relieved in part because he did request more forces. Our NATO Allies are so encumbered by the limitations on their own Rules of Engagement that they are, with the exception of the Brits and Australians, just tourists in uniforms.

I wish the Marines success but this is just a dangerous job of cat & mouse with not enough cats deployed. Insufficient resources for the tasking. I was there in 02′ but further north than Helmand.

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]]> By: blast http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/03/marines-begin-operation-to-clear-taliban-out-of-helmand-valley-in-afghanistan/#comment-218530 blast Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:21:01 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=24166#comment-218530 It is about time we take the offensive. GO MARINES! OORAH!

It is about time we take the offensive. GO MARINES!

OORAH!

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]]> By: Gregory_Dittman http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/03/marines-begin-operation-to-clear-taliban-out-of-helmand-valley-in-afghanistan/#comment-218447 Gregory_Dittman Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:14:25 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=24166#comment-218447 Don't assume that the Taliban are slipping away. Small forces puff themselves to make themselves look bigger than they are. When other forces take ground, the small forces show their true size. Many of their squads are 6 guys guys or less. If two squads (a dozen guys) where holding a town and 6 of those guys died, one side sees 6 guys dead while the other side sees 50% of their forces destroyed in that area.

Don’t assume that the Taliban are slipping away. Small forces puff themselves to make themselves look bigger than they are. When other forces take ground, the small forces show their true size. Many of their squads are 6 guys guys or less. If two squads (a dozen guys) where holding a town and 6 of those guys died, one side sees 6 guys dead while the other side sees 50% of their forces destroyed in that area.

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