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	<title>Comments on: Unemployment Continues to Skyrocket as Obama&#8217;s Stimulus Plan Fails</title>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Part of the reason for unemployment is for those that are unemployed not to have to take any low paying job just to take a job and be UNDER employed. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You do live in a fantasy world, don&#039;t you?  You think it was first enacted in 1935 so people wouldn&#039;t be &quot;under employed&quot;??

UI has never been a replacement for your normal income.  In fact, it has caps, and was maxed out in most states in 26 months.  You&#039;re way long last that pal, which means you&#039;re living on Congressional extensions that aren&#039;t paid for by your employers payroll taxes, but by the rest of us.  And while your state continues to go into the hole for people like you, who&#039;d rather &quot;take&quot; than &quot;contribute&quot; because you&#039;re not earning enough to suit your tastes, they end up borrowing from the feds... meaning again, us, the taxpayers.

In other words, you are the poster child as to why welfare doesn&#039;t work.  You&#039;ve just proven that  you have no intention of working 40 hours if you&#039;re going to make less than if you can walked to your mail box to pick up a check.  You&#039;re an embarrassment.  No wonder you&#039;re a damn progressive.  You&#039;re the one the Dems tell us can&#039;t take care of themselves, nor make bright decisions.  You *do* exist... go no.

Get with the program.  We&#039;ve all had to do side jobs, two jobs, and be creative with eBay and garage sales to keep ends met.  You&#039;ll also find the barter system is alive and well in the good ol&#039; US, outside your urban chaos, that is.

And oh, BTW you arrogant, elitist snob.... those that work at Walmart, McDonalds, Starbucks, libraries... even those that volunteer in the local hospitals and nursing homes  emptying bed pans, janitors scrubbing floors, those that clean houses for a living ... are worth 100x your lazy despicable ass.  And YES, I not only call that &quot;gainful employment&quot;,  but an honorable and respectable living as well.... unlike you, the master sponger.  

And for your information, I&#039;m self-employed... no sugar daddy in my life.  If I don&#039;t hustle, there&#039;s no food in the refrigerator and the bills aren&#039;t paid.  And I do it all without a government handout.  I&#039;m like most people... living close to the bone and extremely frugal.  I shaved down my living expenses and debt years ago to live pay as you go, and within my means.

And if I find I can&#039;t make the financial cut?  That&#039;s when I&#039;m gonna take Old Trooper up on his offer to move to Montana and shovel shit.  My guess is I&#039;ll find your sorry butt in that pile.

And another thing... patriotism is love of my country and all she [used to] stand for.... and that wasn&#039;t a welfare state.   It doesn&#039;t mean I have to like you one bit... and I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Part of the reason for unemployment is for those that are unemployed not to have to take any low paying job just to take a job and be UNDER employed. </p></blockquote>
<p>You do live in a fantasy world, don&#8217;t you?  You think it was first enacted in 1935 so people wouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;under employed&#8221;??</p>
<p>UI has never been a replacement for your normal income.  In fact, it has caps, and was maxed out in most states in 26 months.  You&#8217;re way long last that pal, which means you&#8217;re living on Congressional extensions that aren&#8217;t paid for by your employers payroll taxes, but by the rest of us.  And while your state continues to go into the hole for people like you, who&#8217;d rather &#8220;take&#8221; than &#8220;contribute&#8221; because you&#8217;re not earning enough to suit your tastes, they end up borrowing from the feds&#8230; meaning again, us, the taxpayers.</p>
<p>In other words, you are the poster child as to why welfare doesn&#8217;t work.  You&#8217;ve just proven that  you have no intention of working 40 hours if you&#8217;re going to make less than if you can walked to your mail box to pick up a check.  You&#8217;re an embarrassment.  No wonder you&#8217;re a damn progressive.  You&#8217;re the one the Dems tell us can&#8217;t take care of themselves, nor make bright decisions.  You *do* exist&#8230; go no.</p>
<p>Get with the program.  We&#8217;ve all had to do side jobs, two jobs, and be creative with eBay and garage sales to keep ends met.  You&#8217;ll also find the barter system is alive and well in the good ol&#8217; US, outside your urban chaos, that is.</p>
<p>And oh, BTW you arrogant, elitist snob&#8230;. those that work at Walmart, McDonalds, Starbucks, libraries&#8230; even those that volunteer in the local hospitals and nursing homes  emptying bed pans, janitors scrubbing floors, those that clean houses for a living &#8230; are worth 100x your lazy despicable ass.  And YES, I not only call that &#8220;gainful employment&#8221;,  but an honorable and respectable living as well&#8230;. unlike you, the master sponger.  </p>
<p>And for your information, I&#8217;m self-employed&#8230; no sugar daddy in my life.  If I don&#8217;t hustle, there&#8217;s no food in the refrigerator and the bills aren&#8217;t paid.  And I do it all without a government handout.  I&#8217;m like most people&#8230; living close to the bone and extremely frugal.  I shaved down my living expenses and debt years ago to live pay as you go, and within my means.</p>
<p>And if I find I can&#8217;t make the financial cut?  That&#8217;s when I&#8217;m gonna take Old Trooper up on his offer to move to Montana and shovel shit.  My guess is I&#8217;ll find your sorry butt in that pile.</p>
<p>And another thing&#8230; patriotism is love of my country and all she [used to] stand for&#8230;. and that wasn&#8217;t a welfare state.   It doesn&#8217;t mean I have to like you one bit&#8230; and I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Real American Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real American Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata:

Part of the reason for unemployment is for those that are unemployed not to have to take any low paying job just to take a job and be UNDER employed.  

The whole idea of take &quot;any&quot; gainful employment is better than none is total BS! Would you care to describe for us what your version of gainful employment is? Is that minimum wage in your book? Is it anyone that has been laid off should just go to work for Walmart or McDonalds?  If that is your description of gainful employment you really don&#039;t believe in unemployment do you? Do you really call yourself a patriotic American? 

Why don&#039;t we just get rid of all the progress we have made as a middle class. Then we can all work for non union companies and work 60 - 80 hours a week with no vacations, and the hell with minimum wage let&#039;s all work for pennies and just make the rich richer. 
After all it is the Republi-CON way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata:</p>
<p>Part of the reason for unemployment is for those that are unemployed not to have to take any low paying job just to take a job and be UNDER employed.  </p>
<p>The whole idea of take &#8220;any&#8221; gainful employment is better than none is total BS! Would you care to describe for us what your version of gainful employment is? Is that minimum wage in your book? Is it anyone that has been laid off should just go to work for Walmart or McDonalds?  If that is your description of gainful employment you really don&#8217;t believe in unemployment do you? Do you really call yourself a patriotic American? </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we just get rid of all the progress we have made as a middle class. Then we can all work for non union companies and work 60 &#8211; 80 hours a week with no vacations, and the hell with minimum wage let&#8217;s all work for pennies and just make the rich richer.<br />
After all it is the Republi-CON way!</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/01/unemployment-continues-to-skyrocket-as-obamas-stimulus-plan-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-219568</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be getting on HR for &quot;funemployment&quot;, since I suggested that is what you are doing.  And in fact, you can&#039;t blame me but one of your&lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=7763146&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt; favorite liberal MSM sources instead.... ABC&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

And I see your criteria is &quot;re-employed at a decent wage&quot;... meaning that if you&#039;re not making more than you getting from your funemployment, why bother taking the job?

Question patriotism and whatever else about me all you want, CRAP... far as I can see, your whole mind is FUBAR if you can&#039;t see where *any* gainful employment is better than none, and living off government checks.  But then, it&#039;s the mindset of you victim liberal progressives...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Don&#8217;t be getting on HR for &#8220;funemployment&#8221;, since I suggested that is what you are doing.  And in fact, you can&#8217;t blame me but one of your<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=7763146&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow"><b> favorite liberal MSM sources instead&#8230;. ABC</b></a></p>
<p>And I see your criteria is &#8220;re-employed at a decent wage&#8221;&#8230; meaning that if you&#8217;re not making more than you getting from your funemployment, why bother taking the job?</p>
<p>Question patriotism and whatever else about me all you want, CRAP&#8230; far as I can see, your whole mind is FUBAR if you can&#8217;t see where *any* gainful employment is better than none, and living off government checks.  But then, it&#8217;s the mindset of you victim liberal progressives&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Real American Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real American Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata and Hard Right: 

I feel sorry for you if you really believe the CRAP YOU spew about me.

First of all I do not enjoy being on unemployment. I have been working hard at getting re-employed at a decent wage. However, because you are a Republi-con you probably don&#039;t believe in unemployment and would call it socialism. (So much for your love of other American&#039;s) Frankly, I question YOUR Patriotism! 


Hard Right:
Calling it &quot;Funemployment&quot; YOU really are a dumb ass!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata and Hard Right: </p>
<p>I feel sorry for you if you really believe the CRAP YOU spew about me.</p>
<p>First of all I do not enjoy being on unemployment. I have been working hard at getting re-employed at a decent wage. However, because you are a Republi-con you probably don&#8217;t believe in unemployment and would call it socialism. (So much for your love of other American&#8217;s) Frankly, I question YOUR Patriotism! </p>
<p>Hard Right:<br />
Calling it &#8220;Funemployment&#8221; YOU really are a dumb ass!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/01/unemployment-continues-to-skyrocket-as-obamas-stimulus-plan-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-218854</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The economy getting worse only proves that we understand economics....or even reality better than the left. It&#039;s decline doesn&#039;t make us happy like it would the left if the situation were reversed. 

I would love to see the economy get better. However, if obama&#039;s other pets get thru-- crap n&#039; trade and universally bad healthcare, there will be no recovery for sure. 

I also agree with Mike. No mater what happens you will blame Bush or use him to deflect most of the blame. 

&lt;strong&gt;Again I ask you larry, is obama governing from the center? Are his picks centrist? Yes or no? &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The economy getting worse only proves that we understand economics&#8230;.or even reality better than the left. It&#8217;s decline doesn&#8217;t make us happy like it would the left if the situation were reversed. </p>
<p>I would love to see the economy get better. However, if obama&#8217;s other pets get thru&#8211; crap n&#8217; trade and universally bad healthcare, there will be no recovery for sure. </p>
<p>I also agree with Mike. No mater what happens you will blame Bush or use him to deflect most of the blame. </p>
<p><strong>Again I ask you larry, is obama governing from the center? Are his picks centrist? Yes or no? </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-218543&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;openid.aol.com/runnswim&lt;/a&gt; said: &lt;i&gt;&quot; What&#039;s great about this argument is that we&#039;ll actually get to see who&#039;s right.  We won&#039;t need to be arguing over it for the next 10 years. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

And yet many of you lefties still deny President Reagan&#039;s pivotal role in winning the Cold War.

Seems to me you show an incredible ability to redefine reality to suit your political ideology.

And even when Obama-economics crashes and burns you&#039;ll be blaming President Bush and claiming your guy isn&#039;t to blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>@<a href="#comment-218543" rel="nofollow">openid.aol.com/runnswim</a> said: <i>&#8221; What&#8217;s great about this argument is that we&#8217;ll actually get to see who&#8217;s right.  We won&#8217;t need to be arguing over it for the next 10 years. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>And yet many of you lefties still deny President Reagan&#8217;s pivotal role in winning the Cold War.</p>
<p>Seems to me you show an incredible ability to redefine reality to suit your political ideology.</p>
<p>And even when Obama-economics crashes and burns you&#8217;ll be blaming President Bush and claiming your guy isn&#8217;t to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: openid.aol.com/runnswim</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Iraq War, &quot;victory&quot; for some liberals was the war effort going into the toilet.  In the economic recession, &quot;victory&quot; for some conservatives is the economy going further into the toilet.

History is replete with premature victory declarations.

What&#039;s great about this argument is that we&#039;ll actually get to see who&#039;s right.  We won&#039;t need to be arguing over it for the next 10 years.

- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>In the Iraq War, &#8220;victory&#8221; for some liberals was the war effort going into the toilet.  In the economic recession, &#8220;victory&#8221; for some conservatives is the economy going further into the toilet.</p>
<p>History is replete with premature victory declarations.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s great about this argument is that we&#8217;ll actually get to see who&#8217;s right.  We won&#8217;t need to be arguing over it for the next 10 years.</p>
<p>- Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/01/unemployment-continues-to-skyrocket-as-obamas-stimulus-plan-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-218516</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata, I&#039;d have to say he&#039;s for Ameri&lt;strong&gt;K&lt;/strong&gt;a and not America. 

That &quot;funemployment&quot; must be something considering it&#039;s been ten months. Oh and CRAP, thank the dems-&lt;strong&gt;your people &lt;/strong&gt;for your current situation since they caused it before obama was elected and have made it worse with his help. I know you&#039;ll never do that since being a moonbat means never having to face reality.

As to the original point of this thread, the stimulus was never about helping the economy. It was about rewarding those that backed him by lining their pockets while creating a socialist welfare state. I&#039;ve come to believe that the cloward-pivens strategy is exactly what he and his cronies are executing. 

On a final note: Have you taken a moobat hunting today?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata, I&#8217;d have to say he&#8217;s for Ameri<strong>K</strong>a and not America. </p>
<p>That &#8220;funemployment&#8221; must be something considering it&#8217;s been ten months. Oh and CRAP, thank the dems-<strong>your people </strong>for your current situation since they caused it before obama was elected and have made it worse with his help. I know you&#8217;ll never do that since being a moonbat means never having to face reality.</p>
<p>As to the original point of this thread, the stimulus was never about helping the economy. It was about rewarding those that backed him by lining their pockets while creating a socialist welfare state. I&#8217;ve come to believe that the cloward-pivens strategy is exactly what he and his cronies are executing. </p>
<p>On a final note: Have you taken a moobat hunting today?  <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/01/unemployment-continues-to-skyrocket-as-obamas-stimulus-plan-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-218505</link>
		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HR, how can the man *not* be patriotic when he&#039;s on the gov&#039;t payroll coming on close to year?  Of course he&#039;s rah rah for Obama&#039;s welfare state.  He&#039;s just not hot on the America constructed by the Framers and Founders.  Requires self responsibility, ya know... can&#039;t have that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>HR, how can the man *not* be patriotic when he&#8217;s on the gov&#8217;t payroll coming on close to year?  Of course he&#8217;s rah rah for Obama&#8217;s welfare state.  He&#8217;s just not hot on the America constructed by the Framers and Founders.  Requires self responsibility, ya know&#8230; can&#8217;t have that.</p>
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		<title>By: Hard Right</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2009/07/01/unemployment-continues-to-skyrocket-as-obamas-stimulus-plan-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-218487</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mike, I have to contradict you.&lt;strong&gt; I AM &lt;/strong&gt;questioning his patriotism (his intelligence, his grip on sanity...). As I have said before he loves America like a wife beater loves his wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Well Mike, I have to contradict you.<strong> I AM </strong>questioning his patriotism (his intelligence, his grip on sanity&#8230;). As I have said before he loves America like a wife beater loves his wife.</p>
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